“Mycoplasma pneumoniae” is the top trending Google search right now. What gives
Posted by NotDinahShore@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 431 comments
I don't know if Google trending searches are local, regional, national? I'm in Southern California just inland from Malibu.
Not much to add. I find this startling. Is there a new pneumonia outbreak? Thank you.
HappyShoop@reddit
yes, peoples immune systems are shot from repeat covid infections. dont shoot the messenger ✌️
NotDinahShore@reddit (OP)
I remember a time in prepping subreddits when your comment would have been downvoted mercilessly. People believed they were tougher/stronger/smarter than a novel coronavirus.
I’m glad to see times have changed.
HappyShoop@reddit
thank you for acknowledging. yes and honestly not fast enough. we need to be taking this shit a LOT more seriously and getting this information out there, that this is not good. people gotta wake up to this. the government is lying to us, and the science is there, its just being covered up and people are too deep in denial.
simpleisideal@reddit
Anyone interested should check out the ZeroCovidCommunity subreddit for tips, support, etc.
Sadly the folks on the much larger main Coronavirus subreddit are mostly minimizers for any number of reasons, operating under the establishment's misleading "vax and relax" advice.
caveatlector73@reddit
Vaccinations don't mean you won't get a disease only that you probably won't die.
simpleisideal@reddit
Exactly. Consistent respirator usage is the best bet for anybody serious about protecting their health. But acknowledging these vaccine limitations in the main Coronavirus subreddit can get you banned as an "anti-vaxxer" which is why other smaller subs split off as an actual source of truth and sanity.
RamonaLittle@reddit
Or avoiding places where you'd need to mask. Like, I'm always amazed at the number of redditors casually mentioning that they go into stores just to browse, or to buy things they could buy just as easily (or more easily) with shipping or curbside pickup. Most people could cut down their exposure significantly with minor lifestyle changes. The fact that they won't seems to hint that the virus itself increases risky behavior.
Affectionate_Cut1003@reddit
I find if you curbside pick up certain things like (medicine for instance) they give you the oldest bottle that will expire in less than a year. I like to always have a couple extra children’s Tylenol and an extra bottle of pain/fever reducer for adults, but we don’t used them very often so they expire and then we have to go trash them at the pharmacy.
I went in myself and found bottles that will last 2-3 years. This will allow me to be prepared for the kids to both be sick with a fever for a few days or it will be all used gradually over the next couple years.
That’s the one problem with curbside.
caveatlector73@reddit
Every body is different. Literally.
RamonaLittle@reddit
Just as an FYI, that sub is great for news and covid-conscious commentary, but be cautious when commenting. I've seen multiple users say they were banned for no apparent reason. I'm sure that sub gets hit with a lot of trolls and morons so I can understand the mods being touchy, but apparently it's affected them to the point that they're banning good-faith users with abandon.
TheMotelYear@reddit
Have you checked out the r/COVID19_Pandemic sub? Their moderation is even more consistent than ZCC wrt not tolerating any minimizing or misinformation about COVID.
watchnlearning@reddit
Yes - lovely folks there. So many good resources. I made a collation of an FAQ last year - bitDOTly/CovidCareful
thisbliss7@reddit
I agree with everything you have written, but I would add that it’s not just repeat infections that have destroyed people’s immune systems.
HappyShoop@reddit
also id agree, but id wager that covid is truly the monster behind the phrase “the end of the world will end not with a bang, but a whisper”
watchnlearning@reddit
Very minimally tbh. Though it’s nice there is less hate.
When more than 5% of people are consistently wearing effective mask/respirators I’ll take that as progress. When it should be 80% that’s pretty sad.
deee0@reddit
should be 100% tbh!
Dimako98@reddit
Bc 95% of people aren't clinically insane.
mjflood14@reddit
Do you ever see photos of firefighters, ironworkers and police officers working the Pile at Ground Zero after 9/11? A lot of the time they have respirators hanging around their necks but they are breathing the toxic air unfiltered. They didn’t feel like it was normal to wear a mask and for many unfortunate workers the toxins they inhaled did major damage. Not immediately.
Dimako98@reddit
Ok, well this isn't 9/11. The air is fine.
mjflood14@reddit
If I am wrong to filter the air I breathe, I remain unharmed. If you are wrong and you find out later that the air is not fine, there is not much you will be able to do. One cannot wish away hazardous exposures after the fact.
watchnlearning@reddit
Imagine you not caring that you are passing a virus on that kills people. I guess you hate old people and folks with cancer.
sandstorm654@reddit
It is when there's a neurological/cardiovascular/immune damaging virus that's as contagious as measles going around
jugo5@reddit
Gave my now wife heart problems. Or at least exacerbated them. Stuff was no good. I still feel brain frog from having it 2 years ago. My store right now everyone is getting sick. Colds sick to stomach headaches etc....
J0E_Blow@reddit
I had chest pain that caused me to collapse onto my bed randomly after getting one of the vaccines and my friend had the same thing but got a heart monitor in response since he's a cop and can't be just collapsing. We're both very healthy and have no health complications nor take any prescriptions.
I got COVID twice(?) and still have brain-fog.
jugo5@reddit
Ya, i almost passed out from the first shot. The whole world started sounding like I was going under nitrous. Then i started sweating, and then I felt better. The second shot no complications.
caveatlector73@reddit
You and your wife should be checked for long covid.
here_pretty_kitty@reddit
A recent study found that up to 20% of recently enlisted US Marines have symptoms of long COVID, including those that had "mild" COVID cases. Like, they're recent enlisters so many of them are around the age of 18 / were children during the pandemic when people were saying "kids only get it in a mild way". We're all kind of cooked...
caveatlector73@reddit
I agree. I used to work as a science journalist. I've interviewed the scientists and it's much worse than most people are aware.
TinyEmergencyCake@reddit
Do everything possible to not catch SARS-CoV-2.
Respirator anywhere outside the home.
Air purifier or cr boxes in the house and office.
Avoid large crowds and eating at indoor restaurants.
Shop online whenever possible.
Replace activities with outdoor ones. Workout outside or at home.
HCG18@reddit
Adding nasal spray as an additional line of defense (before being in public places if possible, definitely afterward if for some reason one ends up in a prolonged close-up convo with someone, even outdoors).
Nasal saline spray at least. Covixyl, Xlear, and Betadine Nasal Spray are all good. Caveat that Xlear has Xylitol in it, for those with allergy or dogs.
Dimako98@reddit
That's unhinged. Might as well become a hermit.
Go seek psychiatric help.
RamonaLittle@reddit
Psychiatrists can't fix brain damage. I'll continue avoiding it, thanks.
splat-y-chila@reddit
Don't forget to take your vitamin D and zinc too. They are important for the immune response pathway:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5748737/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3166406/
Mylilneedle@reddit
Since Covid, I’ve had infections I’ve never had before, sicknesses that debilitate, and an exhaustion I cannot solve.
It’s like Covid changed my body just enough to let things reach one extra level of severity
deee0@reddit
yep and if you don't mask it just gets worse and worse bc covid isn't gone
TurtleStepper@reddit
Since covid, or since the covid vaccinations?
tootintx@reddit
How dare you ask such a legit question? People don't want to ponder the thought.
TurtleStepper@reddit
Especially when there is all sorts of data indicating that the vaccines might be causing the exact problems they are talking about.
https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/booster-caused-immune-tolerance-explains
I had covid twice, never got the vaccine, have not even had so much as a cold since then (last time I had covid was 2022). Feel fantastic. Obviously that doesn't prove anything on its own, but it might be helpful to know if the people complaining about chronic post covid health conditions have also had 6 covid boosters or are unvaccinated. I'll probably just be downvoted for asking though.
Mylilneedle@reddit
Your source is Igor’s newsletter. Bro. lol
TurtleStepper@reddit
All of the data referenced is from high quality sources. I'm also not suggesting that particular explanation is entirely accurate, it was just an article I remembered reading when it first came out years ago. No doubt there is better information out there today, it was just an example. Seems like there are some very angry people downvoting me for asking a question and linking an article. I haven't even asserted anything. You guys seem pretty defensive.
By the way, are you guys up to date on your boosters? If no, how come? What changed exactly?
SeaWeedSkis@reddit
Old info on a disease that has been around for decades can still be relevant, but old info on a disease that has only been in existence for less than 5 years is likely so outdated as to be completely useless.
dumdeedumdeedumdeedu@reddit
Lol the lack of the most simple scientific understanding will be the downfall of us all.
Let's pretend you're being sincere for just a moment. There are studies that assess this much more thoroughly than a loaded anonymous anecdotal question. The same studies that you disregard because your don't like the results.
TurtleStepper@reddit
Read the rest of the post.
SKI326@reddit
A @NatureComms study of over 15 million people showed the risk (HR) of an arterial thrombotic event, e.g. heart attack or stroke, on day zero of COVID infection was: -73x higher for vaccinated people -255x higher for unvaccinated. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-46497-0/tables/3
TurtleStepper@reddit
While interesting, that isn't what was being discussed in relation to chromic immune system dysfunction.
SKI326@reddit
Didn’t say it was, it’s an additional problem. COVID is an immunosuppressive, endothelial/vascular disease that is also neuroinvasive. The Merck Manual, Pro Edition, lists it as a cause of lymphocytopenia whose other causes are AIDS, protein energy undernutrition, and certain other viral infections. It may not affect you immediately but damage is cumulative so preventing further infection is essential.
fleeingcats@reddit
Creatine helped me with the exhaustion. Best of luck!
Mylilneedle@reddit
Thank you I’ll go for it. Anything at this point
Brilliant1965@reddit
You could have long Covid. I’ve had it for 3 years, a lot of infections, now ramping up more and we’ve discovered I have an immune deficiency so investigating that. I do have autoimmune stuff so it could be both but I really blame covid/long Covid
IsItAnyWander@reddit
I've ONLY had covid since 2019. Do we cancel each other out?
caveatlector73@reddit
It sounds like you should be evaluated for long COVID.
Dimako98@reddit
Source: you made it up.
There's no evidence that these infections are more common bc of covid infections.
pittbiomed@reddit
What about tin foil hats? Lol
watchnlearning@reddit
What about you read some science. Google “covid” and the top 3 health issues people complaining about in your circles
pittbiomed@reddit
Oh sure , let me rely on the goggle for my facts lol
watchnlearning@reddit
It’s a directory babe. I thought you might be more open to “doing your own research”
But I’ve already done it for you if you prefer. Literally 100s of peer reviewed scientific journal articles are referenced here - bitDOTly/ CovidCareful
pittbiomed@reddit
Directory? And you are referencing covid now when this discussion is about a specific type of pneumonia infection? Im sorry i think your confusing covid for pneumonia. 2 complete diff animals there. Apples and oranges.
watchnlearning@reddit
Do you need it explained slowly?
1 Covid damages immune systems
2 Millions of kids and adults in the US have varying forms of long covid and immune system damage
3 Unprecedented rates of flu, pneumonia, a huge increase in excess deaths, musicians dying suddenly, along with hundreds of thousands of others, Olympic athletes passing out and unable to compete, kids getting seriously sick multiple times a year Is Because Of Multiple Covid Infections
caveatlector73@reddit
I notice you still do not have the hang of evidence - i.e. sources.
watchnlearning@reddit
You can find abundant sources at bitdotly/CovidCareful
But you won't read them
pittbiomed@reddit
Unprecedented huh? Any facts to how unprecedented pnuemonia is ? Oh you are still talking about covid when the conversation is still about pnuemonia ..ive clarified it to you more than anyone should have to. Just because YOU believe xyz about something does not make it a fact lol its a nice try though .
caveatlector73@reddit
Why would you use goggles in the first place? SMH. I notice you have really low karma for having been on this platform for nearly ten years. Who'd you piss off?
can_a_mod_suck_me@reddit
Yeah they’re algorithms shit so you wouldn’t even find dissension; this isn’t google from 10 or even 5 years ago.
Used_Dentist_8885@reddit
It damages any part of your body that is connected to your cardiovascular system, which is to say, all of it. And then if you are not lucky it lives in your bone marrow forever
jarpio@reddit
Sniffles, stuffiness, and fatigue. Damn.
bigdopaminedeficient@reddit
I had a 104°f fever when I had COVID and spent a week drifting in and out of consciousness worrying that I was going to die. I haven't felt the same since. definitely more than just "sniffles, stuffiness, and fatigue". second worst disease I've had after mono
jarpio@reddit
bigdopaminedeficient@reddit
doesn't matter if you believe me or not, I was super sick, but sure, I'll indulge your COVID denial, not that you'll even believe me.
here is a pic from when I first tested positive for covid with my Google photos metadata
https://imgur.com/a/dKm0N61
and here is a pic I took of the thermometer less than a day later
https://imgur.com/a/Zvi8jSf
caveatlector73@reddit
jarpio@reddit
Neil de grasse Tyson isn’t a scientist
caveatlector73@reddit
Please look into the symptoms of long covid specifically if you've already had mono. Herpesviruses tend to be the gas that fuels the flames so to speak if your body didn't completely clear the remnants of the first infection.
caveatlector73@reddit
Brilliant1965@reddit
I’ve had long Covid for a long time and we’re just discovering an immune disorder now (been getting repeated infections). Also have autoimmune stuff but can put all the blame on that. Probably both but I’m just seeing headlines that researchers think Covid may change the immune system. I always mask and have the N95s, I agree with you.
Well_aaakshually@reddit
Same, shit suuucks. I wish you health and luck 🍀
Brilliant1965@reddit
I’m so sorry, same to you, thank you!
bigboldbanger@reddit
well what do you expect from a bioweapon.
motsanciens@reddit
Genuinely curious - what is the theory behind covid causing the immune system to be weak? Do you mean even after being fully recovered from a case, there's an ongoing consequence (assuming not long covid)?
HappyShoop@reddit
its not a theory. visit https://youhavetoliveyour.life lots of research available
Disastrous_Task2344@reddit
Thank you for saying this! 🏆 As much as we would like to pretend this isn’t true, repeat infections are no good for our immune systems.
Crazyblue09@reddit
It's probably all the COVID vaccine injections. /s
Forsaken_Bison_8623@reddit
🎯 many different countries are having this issue right now. Repeat covid infections are setting us up for all kinds of fun
Spirited-Reputation6@reddit
I think you meant “doom” all kinda of doom.
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Sounds like it’s on the rise, according to the CDC
Well_aaakshually@reddit
Everyone's immune systems got damaged by repeat covid infections. This is why we're seeing such an massive increase in respiratory diseases like pneumonia and TB world wide
kkjj77@reddit
Maybe that explains the rise in cancers as well.
vlntly_peaceful@reddit
The cancer rate especially in young people has been rising since before COVID. It's more likely micro plastic, PFAS and all the other chemicals we've been covering the planet in. And we have basically no idea in which molecules they're decaying into or how they interact with our body.
StreetTacosRule@reddit
It’s Covid.
Increase in cancer, especially rare cancers, and being diagnosed at high stages and dying quickly thereafter surged after 2019. (But microplastics and PFAS ain’t helping, that’s for sure!)
Old_Art7622@reddit
COVID doesn’t cause cancer nor has it caused an increase.
FrankenGretchen@reddit
Covid affects the immune system which fights cancer before it gets a foothold. Weaker immune systems means more cancer. Plastics have been around and would not account for the marked increases after Covid hit. We are finding direct correlation between Covid infection and cancers and other diseases.
Ok_Kaleidoscope87@reddit
Covid does not weaken the immune system after the infection. If you think that, then you're scientifically illiterate because actual data shows otherwise. You did not answer the question about why you think covid severity is at record lows. Instead, you just blocked and walked away into your echo chamber. And no, there is no research that suggests everyone is immunocompromised from exposure to covid.
The study another commenter linked is about immune system changes in Long Covid. Not the same thing.
Reality is not denial. You think that anyone who does not conform to your confirmation bias is in denial.
The covid pandemic subreddit you're in is filled with false information.
PermiePagan@reddit
Can you explain what happens to CD8+ T-cells after Covid infection?
pooinmypants1@reddit
Stop talking to the bot!!!!!
PermiePagan@reddit
"Hey, that account apppears to be a bot" works way better than telling me what to do.
Old_Art7622@reddit
Have you not read my other replies? Covid has not caused an increase in cancer. Certain types of cancers were already on the rise pre-pandemic. No direct link between Covid & cancer has been found...and it does not weaken the immune system. Why do you think covid severity is at record lows? Because of weakened immune systems?
xRedd@reddit
Incorrect. Two studies, check out LitCovid for more:
Causal effect of COVID on cancer: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28722
COVID weakens immune system, even in mild cases: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/study-covid-can-trigger-changes-immune-system-may-underlie-persistent-symptoms
Ok_Kaleidoscope87@reddit
You people sound like scientifically illiterate broken records.
The study you link only shows a very small increased risk (and only for certain types of cancers). Influenza, for example, was associated with an increased risk in lung cancer.
And the study about the immune system does NOT show covid weakens the immune system, even in mild cases. It shows changes in the immune system could be a possible cause for LC symptoms, which is NOT the same thing as a weakened immune system.
As mentioned, covid severity is at record lows.
xRedd@reddit
LOL you went from "no direct link to between Covid & cancer" to "only for certain types of cancer" pretty quick there. Bring those goalposts back.
As for the immune system, it helps if you read past the title. Did you miss the parts about:
What do you think a weakened immune system entails?
It's truly fantastic we've been able to reduce COVID severity in the acute phase. But we have no answers for the medium-to-long term damage this virus is causing.
More reading if you're interested
FrangipaniMan@reddit
Whoever told you that was either lying or very very ignorant. Covid wrecks the immune cells that patrol your body looking for cancer cells to kill.
Lots of viruses start as "simple infections" & result in cancer years later: HPV-->cervical cancer; Epstein-Barr virus--->Multiple Sclerosis; HCV--->liver cancer; HIV-->AIDS
From here:
CORKscrewed21@reddit
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10202899/
Old_Art7622@reddit
This is all speculation, hypothesizing certain possible mechanisms that could increase the risk of cancer. It’s not a direct link, nor data showing an increase.
CORKscrewed21@reddit
No wories, I agree. This paper shows how COVID can start and worsen pancreatic cancer https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38063927/
DIYGremlin@reddit
It causes system wide inflammation and suppresses the immune functions that the body uses to control cancer growth.
Old_Art7622@reddit
Covid does not cause of any of that. When it was novel (in 2020), the inflammation in some people was caused by the immune RESPONSE, not the virus itself. It does not suppress immune function, and as mentioned there has been no increase in cancers due to covid that weren't already part of a pre-pandemic increasing trend. This is the same nonsense as the "turbo cancers" the anti-vaxxers are pushing
Infinite_Canary_6350@reddit
Where are your scholarly references?
HCG18@reddit
No reason why the rise can't be caused by more than one thing.
deee0@reddit
it doesn't mean covid hasn't affected it or increased the rate of cases.
luxnight@reddit
The rise in heart disease and coronary issues was *not* taking place before Covid. There was an exponential rise as soon as Covid hit and *before* vaccines. It has not dropped since but only slowed down from rising too crazy once the vaccines came.
musicbrainbooks@reddit
or both
watchnlearning@reddit
No it's not. Both are an issue.
Old_Art7622@reddit
COVID is not an issue anymore
Rachel-Tyrellcorp@reddit
Yes, it probably does as well... scientific literature on the subject is piling up
Old_Art7622@reddit
COVID does not cause cancer
FickleRegular1718@reddit
The argument here presented is not that it has anything to do with the causing of cancer... but the ability for that cancer to take hold and for you to then later get diagnosed.
Or... actually not the ability of cancer but the ability of your body to defend itself against it.
I believe maybe most everyone gets cancer and your body fights it off periodically. I'm too lazy to look it up I think I remember reading that...
1peacenik@reddit
À friend of mine dies a week ago after covid reactivated her blood cancer that had been in remission for nigh 30 years
It came back super aggressive
She got covid the first week her kids went back to school after the mask mandates had been lifted
And nobody is investing in clean air filtration and/ far UV virus and bacteria killing lamps for schools
Well_aaakshually@reddit
There are multiple studies showing the carcinogenic effects of covid, look up COVID and cancer in google scholar for more.
kkjj77@reddit
I've read some of those studies!! Scary!
PlaceboJacksonMusic@reddit
Totally natural
OsamaBinWhiskers@reddit
Do the studies mention the vaccine helping?
Keji70gsm@reddit
If the vax is up to date. The data is a bit all over the place, with anywhere from 10-45% reduction in long covid risk. I imagine that probably reduces cancer risk too.
Even 10% is worthwhile, preferencing novavax if you can get it.
SolidStranger13@reddit
This is good information and appreciate you sharing this.
minecraftsteve696@reddit
Only masking helps not catching it
tiggahiccups@reddit
My kid has pneumonia right now so do a bunch of other kids in different grades
StreetTacosRule@reddit
It’s not about whether it’s mild or not apparently. It’s infection vs no infection. Heart rates also increase exponentially post-infection, regardless of symptoms. And the young are most affected (20s to 50). That’s why you hear about young athletes, marathon runners, performers dropping dead on stage due to heart failure. Very scary stuff.
tiggahiccups@reddit
It is scary and I didn’t and still don’t know what the right thing to do to protect my kids, it’s too late at this point.
StreetTacosRule@reddit
It’s never too late to start. Unfortunately, it means masking consistently (kn95/N95 masks) and most people don’t have the strength to stand out and be different from the crowds. Even though the crowds are who are headed for certain disability and a much earlier death. Sorry to be so blunt
tiggahiccups@reddit
My kids are too young to mask consistently and they chew on masks when they wear them
BlueLikeMorning@reddit
It's time to start training them! Most kids can learn to wear masks reasonably well (certainly enough to prevent some infections), including ND kids. Also, advocate for and provide air purifiers and CR boxes to their classrooms! It is not too late, and get on the train baby bc long covid will take their childhood away with a snap of its fingers. I have a post viral illness and I can't imagine getting it as a kid.
Old_Art7622@reddit
Kids do not need to wear masks for an endemic respiratory virus which is just like any other virus at this point.
BlueLikeMorning@reddit
A) endemic does not mean harmless - Malaria is endemic in many countries and kills many many people a year B) it is a vascular virus that increases heart attack and stroke risk by 100% following infection, causes brain changes and microclots, it's not a respiratory illness
Old_Art7622@reddit
I never said it was harmless, no virus is harmless. Covid is no longer exceptional...that is the point.
No, it is not a vascular virus. It absolutely does NOT increase the risk of heart attack and stroke by "100%". That is false. Plenty of respiratory illnesses do increase the risk of heart attack and stroke. Heart attacks are back to baseline from 2023 onwards. Even the flu can cause neurological complications. Microclots are rare. Those are not caused by the virus itself but rather due to the immune response in some people. This was a bigger risk when it was novel, but now that is no longer the case.
cachinnate@reddit
covid isn't influenza. you can't compare them like that.
Old_Art7622@reddit
They are both very similar. I know it is not an influenza virus. It is a coronavirus
BlueLikeMorning@reddit
(for anyone reading, you can look up all of this on Google. Covid is absolutely a vascular disease that is known to cause heart and blood vessel problems, and the risk is absolutely not less than when it was novel. Diseases so not magically become less dangerous when we allow them to proliferate. And no, we largely do not have immunity bc the virus is changing so quickly and covid itself damages the immune system)
Old_Art7622@reddit
Literally everything you wrote is false. How can you be so confidently wrong on so many things? You’re clearly scientifically illiterate.
It is not a vascular disease. Respiratory diseases can impact the heart. Blood vessel issues when it was novel was caused by the immune response.
And imagine being so delusional to claim that the risk isn’t lower than when it was novel and that there’s no immunity, despite all the data indicating otherwise.
You COVID anxious people are immunity deniers…which is why you continue to push your fringe narrative.
COVID severity is at record lows, which are not signs of a damaged immune system.
Hope this helps.
cachinnate@reddit
could you link your sources? specifically the ones that support the claims that: - covid does not increase risk of heart attack & stroke - heart attacks are back to baseline from 2023 onwards - immune response causing microclots vs virus being direct cause ? - "This was a bigger risk when it was novel, but now that is no longer the case." - "COVID severity is at record lows & the risk of LC has declined"
because all of the peer-reviewed research i have read (i'm in public health) disagrees with these points.
Infinite_Canary_6350@reddit
Hello, bot from the Internet research agency! Stop spreading harmful disinformation and go away!
Old_Art7622@reddit
It’s not disinformation. It’s reality. Get out of your echo chamber
mjflood14@reddit
Many parents of young kids have them practice at home for short periods, watching TV for 10-15 minutes to start, with a little reward if they don’t fiddle with the mask.
Old_Art7622@reddit
This is absurd. Hopefully you aren’t a parent. COVID is not special anymore so stop believing the misinformation.
No kid and hardly any adult masks in real life anymore as the pandemic is over.
swest1613@reddit
It’s never too late. If we have a chance of recovery from repeated Covid infections, the chance is better if the body isn’t continuously pummeled by more covid and other viruses.
As far as your kids being too young, I don’t know how young they are, but parents are having success with their 2 year olds. It, like most things, seems to be all about how you present and practice it. If you present it as a normal safety standard and study how to gently acclimate them, it can be a normal part of their day.
I’ve been living with a post-viral chronic illness since I was 18 years old and I’m in my mid 30’s now. And the difference is that I only got it once, not over and over like we’re doing with kids with Covid. I would do whatever it takes to try to prevent my kids from having my experience for their life, or worse.
Old_Art7622@reddit
They aren’t at risk from COVID. It’s an endemic respiratory virus and so much doomer misinformation is being written in this thread. Nobody masks anymore. Rare for adults too and pretty much non-existent in children, and they’re all fine.
You’re absurd.
swest1613@reddit
It’s so interesting when comments appear here that are always, “No one masks anymore”, as if that is reasonable grounds for not taking precautions against a virus that does full body damage to organs and body systems with cumulative infections, including the immune system. The comments are so similar that it’s almost like these comments are… bots.
On the off chance that you’re not a bot, and for the sake of anyone else who has ventured this far into the comments who truly wants to understand, I will play ball, even though I know nothing I say will change your mind if you truly still feel this way after all of the mounting information that we have in 2024.
1) Endemic vs. pandemic doesn’t matter at all. Focusing on semantics is pointless and a waste of time, because covid is gonna do what it’s gonna do regardless of what we call it. Nevertheless, covid hasn’t reached endemic status because its transmission rates and severity are still unpredictable and vary significantly across regions, so it doesn’t yet qualify.
2) Why are you focusing solely on the respiratory aspect of covid? It’s very well known that it affects far more than the respiratory system.
3) lol how are you saying that all the children are fine? That’s wild and far from correct. Do you know all the children? Do you know any? Because I know plenty and they’re absolutely not all fine after their covid infections. This has to be a bot.
4) Giving parents information who want it for how to help their kids is not “doomer misinformation”. It’s being able to think critically amidst societal pressure to do otherwise, and to accept and adapt to reality. Those are old reductions that people were more frequently using around 2022 when they couldn’t look around them and see the damage done by covid in themselves and the people that they know by almost 2025. Labeling it “doomer misinformation” doesn’t work anymore when people can see with their own eyes and have experienced that it’s not true, and there are plenty of easily verifiable resources that say otherwise.
5) Most importantly- Children aren’t at risk of covid?? Why on earth would that be true? They can breathe and covid can get in their bodies just the same as anyone else, so it can do long term damage just the same as adults. We have SO much evidence of this by now. I mean it’s literally a quick google. It’s fanciful misinformation to say that they’re NOT at risk.
Express_Chocolate254@reddit
Yeah I can't believe how the "children don't get Covid" myth became so widespread. There is just no evidence supporting the idea that it's not harmful to children but insist on telling themselves otherwise.
DIYGremlin@reddit
It was propaganda to get people to send their kids back to school. And people wanted to believe it because they need schools to babysit their kids when they are working. It’s a case of the perverse incentives of capitalism creating the conditions for mass delusion and cognitive dissonance.
Express_Chocolate254@reddit
Damn. Very well put. Yeah it really seems like parents were given no good options and were put in an impossible position. Now that the kids have been back in school I get why no one wants to admit that they put their kids in danger, even if they felt they had no choice.
ElsieDaisy@reddit
Risks increase with every infection.
3 infections are worse than 2, 2 are worse than 1, etc.
I see in another comment your kids are too young to mask reliably. Try to get their childcare/schools to improve ventilation and filtration.
Vaccines help, but we really need layered approaches to reduce transmission.
Old_Art7622@reddit
That’s not true. This is speculation, exactly like what the anti-vaxxers are doing. Heart attacks are below pre-pandemic levels since 2023
After_Preference_885@reddit
No they aren't
Post the research
Old_Art7622@reddit
Yes, they are.
After_Preference_885@reddit
Why can't you post a link
Old_Art7622@reddit
It’s from CDC data and there’s a graph that plots heart attacks using ICD codes, but I’m not sure how to post an image here.
Also, regarding your other comment where you’re telling me it’s not harmless. Nowhere did I say that it’s harmless. Not being exceptional anymore does not make it harmless. No pathogen is harmless.
After_Preference_885@reddit
So it's not a bad idea to protect yourself if it's not harmless
You should be able to post links to the research debunking what I've posted and where the graphic is located because honestly without the source it's meaningless
FrangipaniMan@reddit
I'm so tired of people rushing to "correct medical inaccuracies" who seem to think the world will end if someone puts a mask back on or puts a Corsi-Rosenthal box in a public space.
FrangipaniMan@reddit
When you hit 'reply', there are icons to your bottom left in the text box. The icon furthest to the left allows you to post images from your computer OR you could go wild and....copy the CDC website page address in your browser & post that.
Old_Art7622@reddit
It’s from CDC data and there’s a graph that plots heart attacks using ICD codes, but I’m not sure how to post an image here.
cuddly_degenerate@reddit
I'm 31, in decent shape, and had a stroke we can't figure out the cause of. It's looking like covid was the culprit.
deee0@reddit
yep that's how it works.
Well_aaakshually@reddit
Covid has become increasingly immune invasive meaning it gets past the immune system (what presents as the symptoms we associate with being sick) and just does direct damage to organs and body systems.
TLDR: covid dodges the guards and sabotages the machinery
owltower@reddit
Do you have some papers you've read you can link while i search around for the same? That's a scary characteristic. How effective are vaccines against such a threat when the vaccines mainly leverage their effect through the immune system?
Well_aaakshually@reddit
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/how-covid-19-variants-evade-immune-response
MsSansaSnark@reddit
Thanks for posting these and also amazing username
Well_aaakshually@reddit
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/why-protective-antibodies-fade-after-covid-19-vaccines
Well_aaakshually@reddit
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9231409/
Well_aaakshually@reddit
https://www.who.int/news/item/29-10-2024-tuberculosis-resurges-as-top-infectious-disease-killer
Well_aaakshually@reddit
https://www.who.int/teams/global-tuberculosis-programme/tb-reports/global-tuberculosis-report-2023/tb-disease-burden/1-1-tb-incidence
tiggahiccups@reddit
That sucks
Old_Art7622@reddit
It also isn’t true. Don’t believe in misinformation. That’s not what immune-evasion means nor how the immune system works.
Well_aaakshually@reddit
Get masks on the munchkins and save yourself some future doctor bills
Friendly-Coyote6862@reddit
What an ignorant statement
Well_aaakshually@reddit
You got a counterfactual or just hot air?
v202099@reddit
Masks work wonders, with proper training and handling.
School kids do not handle masks the way they need to be
Keji70gsm@reddit
Teach them. They're not bags of rocks.
SolidStranger13@reddit
They might be if they descended from them
watchnlearning@reddit
They can. Not everyone is as precious as American children. Kids in some Asian countries learn very young. Plenty of brave kids are among the few masking in their school
v202099@reddit
I know nothing about Asian or American kids, but European kids definatly do not have any idea how to wear masks. European grown ups cant deal with masks if their lives are on the line - the amount of fingers on and in the masks during covid times are absolutely nuts. I shouldn't get started on correct fitting....
Friendly-Coyote6862@reddit
You’re just a dumb brainwashed lib afraid of fresh air
SeaWeedSkis@reddit
Oh. Oh that's not nice. 😳
MrsBeauregardless@reddit
Even an asymptomatic COVID case does major internal damage. It is not just a cold.
You need to wear an N95 any time you are around people you don’t live with.
Keji70gsm@reddit
It's not rare for pneumonia to follow Covid. It's well established. The public just isn't being told about it.
tiggahiccups@reddit
He had Covid 3 years ago. Walking pneumonia came from school as it’s spreading there like crazy currently!
capital-minutia@reddit
Sounds like mycoplasma!
Old_Art7622@reddit
This is absolutely not true. COVID does not damage immune systems and certainly doesn’t cause widespread immune harm. We are not seeing a massive increase in respiratory disease. Mycoplasma pneumonia is increasing due to a DELAYED post-pandemic re-emergence as its patterns were disrupted during the pattern. Same with TB, which also saw TB health facilities get disrupted during the pandemic.
Bobbin_thimble1994@reddit
There’s no such thing as “immunity debt.”
Old_Art7622@reddit
I never said anything about immunity debt
prettyrickywooooo@reddit
Truth !! Thanks for mentioning that
HallesBerries@reddit
Or did all the distancing and masking weaken the immune systems?
Express_Chocolate254@reddit
No. I did not. Pathogenic viruses do not strengthen our immune systems. Will HIV make you healthier, or is a good idea to avoid it? Hepatitis C? How about herpes? Avoiding viral infections does not weaken the immune system. Getting infected with Covid weakens the immune system and there are many, many studies backing this up.
sandstorm654@reddit
That only happens with bacteria. Keeping up to date on vaccines is better than being infected. There are no benefits to viral infections and many downsides
Dimako98@reddit
Source: you made it up.
DifferentiallyLinear@reddit
TB has historically been the #1 respiratory / infectious disease leading to death for quite some time before COVID. Since weve gotten a handle on covid, TB gets to return to #1
Well_aaakshually@reddit
Yeah but it's baseline levels are higher than usual prior to covid
escapefromburlington@reddit
But it’s unthinkable the vaccine and all the boosters had any impact. Unthinkable!
escapefromburlington@reddit
But it’s unthinkable the vaccine and all the boosters had any impact. Unthinkable!
LoisinaMonster@reddit
Yes, thank you for bringing awareness! I came to make this comment myself and saw yours.
trailsman@reddit
Ding ding ding. This is the answer.
If we only would have treated Covid like the serious threat it is from the get go we would be very far along with upgrading air quality in all indoor spaces. We are eventually going to have to wage a war against Covid, we are just ignoring reality so people can live in denial and just "get back to normal". We are just costing ourselves infinitely more, not only in cost but quality of life and health of many millions (likely billions), by delaying the eventual reality we need to face.
Anxious-Pin-3660@reddit
More likely from the Covid vaccines that don't even protect you from getting covid.
SKI326@reddit
This ⬆️
KountryKrone@reddit
This increase fits into the known trend. From your link.
Trends The number of M. pneumoniae infections varies over time. There are usually peaks of disease every 3 to 7 years 13. Variation in strain types contributes to this pattern. In 2023, M. pneumoniae began to re-emerge globally. This re-emergence occurred after a prolonged period of low incidence of infections since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.
0ld0@reddit
Na, this year's spike is already 5x the normal periodic peaks. It's COVID. Just like it's COVID causing all the other random spikes in infectious diseases.
KountryKrone@reddit
Mycoplasma pneumonia and COVID are two very different diseases. It starts with the fact that mycoplasma pneumonia is a bacteria and COVID is a virus and goes on into they present differently and the chest Xrays look different.
Evening-Brilliant704@reddit
Repeated bouts of covid destroys immune systems. The virus leaves bodies more susceptible to illness and less able to fight infection.
Connect the dots
KountryKrone@reddit
Blah, blah, blah. Any credible support for that claim?
KountryKrone@reddit
How do stats from England apply to the US where most commenting live?
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Yep. It’s probably enough to explain the Google search prevalence.
twohammocks@reddit
TLDR here
'From March 31, 2024 through the week ending October 5, 2024, these emergency department visits increased from:
All ages: 0.5% to 2.1% 2–4-year-olds: 1.0% to 7.2% 5–17-year-olds: 3.6% to 7.4% M. pneumoniae diagnoses reached a peak at 10.7% for the 2–4-year-old and 9.8% for 5–17-year-old age groups in August 2024.
I noticed 'Walking pneumonia' trending yesterday.
Mundtflapz@reddit
Haven't Biden/Harris been in office for the past four years? Why haven't they done what Trump didn't? Hmmm?...
Low-Mix-5790@reddit
THIS IS WHY ⬇️⬇️⬇️ Biden/Harris tried to change this. The (right wing side of) Supreme Court overturned the Chevron Doctrine which had taken away the many of the powers the EPA had to make these decisions making it nearly impossible to regulate. Laws would have to be passed by Congress, which have been introduce and blocked by republicans. I wish more people understood how this stuff works and the impact this will have on the health of society.
watchnlearning@reddit
They have also done a shit job on the pandemic. Vax and relax is nonsense.
Either-Size-2640@reddit
https://x.com/LauraMiers/status/1854167394408616273
EmmieH1287@reddit
Its going around like crazy in the US right now, especially kids. My kiddos have both just gotten over it (my daughter managed without antibiotics, my son needed them). They shared it with me as well, it's not fun.
Useful-Following5854@reddit
What symptoms did you get?
EmmieH1287@reddit
Just started like a regular cold, but the cough took about a month to go away for the kids. They oth had ear infections with it as well, which is why we went to the doctor to begin with.
Useful-Following5854@reddit
My son just got out of the hospital after 4 days because of it. Now I feel fluish.
bien-fait@reddit
Two of my there children (6 and 4 years old) have it right now and I am being treated for it too. The CDC issued an advisory about it. https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/mycoplasma-pneumoniae-infections-have-been-increasing.html There's a lot of it going around right now.
Useful-Following5854@reddit
My son just spent several days in the hospital with it. What can I expect for myself?
United_Pie_5484@reddit
It’s ripped through my daughter’s high school and the parents as well Over the last few weeks.
itsallinthebag@reddit
I (f34) just had my primary care appt and my dr. Looked at my chart and said- you had a pneumonia vaccine?!?! I said, yeah, idk, the pharmacist at Walgreens just suggested it so I said ok. And she was literally laughing saying it’s only for old people and they must have been having a contest to see who could get the most people vaccinated! She told me not to get it again, but look who’s laughing now!
HCG18@reddit
I mean, if you've ever had Covid, it's probably not a bad idea to get the pneumonia vaccine anyway. The changes Covid makes aren't always immediately noticeable but even mild-appearing cases affect people.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
Did she give you a reason to NOT have the vaccine? This seems odd.
itsallinthebag@reddit
I thought that was kind of odd too. I even said- it doesn’t hurt though right? Even though it did. I got covid, flu and pneumonia shots in the same arm at the same time. Which was also kind of weird. But no she just said it’s usually reserved for immunocompromised peoples
Past_Search7241@reddit
"Thanks, doc, but I'm only one or two steps removed from immunocompromised people. It seemed prudent to not share."
Your doctor is a bit dim.
Urag-gro_Shub@reddit
They've been hounding me to get it since I turned 30
Dumbkitty2@reddit
If you have asthma, COPD, or a history of recurring walking pneumonia, it’s a good idea.
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
It won’t prevent Mycoplasma pneumoniae (walking pneumonia), it’s for Streptococcus pneumoniae. Still a good idea to get it.
Dumbkitty2@reddit
Yeah, damage is damage to the lungs, no matter how it happened, and avoiding other lower respiratory infections just becomes more important.
itsallinthebag@reddit
OLD! Jk
2PinaColadaS14EH@reddit
Actually that vaccine doesn't protect against Mycoplasma
itsallinthebag@reddit
I don’t actually know anything about it. I figured it was probably different
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
It’s for Streptococcus pneumoniae, but also a nasty bug. I hate the way it smells (I am a microbiologist) and I can’t even explain what it smells like, just like sickness.
aleelee13@reddit
There tends to be peaks every 3-7 years in different areas of the world. My guess is a combination of our last peak year being around 2019 and COVID impacting our immune system.
It's not clear how long a covid infection can negatively impact your immune system, could be a few months, could be over a year. Just had a large national wave July-September with estimated 1/3 of the US infected. Enter flu/cold season.
Reduced immune system post covid infections + more viruses circulating = great opportunity for mycoplasma. Plus, I hear it has a gnarly long incubation period (unfortunately).
deee0@reddit
covid isn't over. the peaks post-2019/2020 have been far worse.
aleelee13@reddit
I think you interpreted my 2019 statement as covid, but I was saying the last peak of MP was in 2019. Covid has had many peaks lol. Which is why I mentioned that the most recent wave from this summer/fall is probably contributing to the current wave of MP, as a large % of the population has a weakened immune system post recent covid infection (plus any long term impacts from previous infections).
deee0@reddit
oh yes definitely! my bad lol
aleelee13@reddit
Didn't wanna assume but I was like damn man I ain't even a minimizer!
deee0@reddit
I'm sorry lmao 😭
deee0@reddit
no one cares about covid anymore. it's rampant right now with unmitigated spread, and literally wrecks your immune system more and more every time you get it. it will disable even the most healthy or will make you fall deathly ill eventually.
public health has failed us. it's not "just a cold." we're currently seeing the effects of it. it hurts literally every organ in your body and the effects are cumulative, even if you have a mild case. the pandemic has never stopped, we've just been told it has. mask up to save yourselves!
NotDinahShore@reddit (OP)
I was at doctors appointment with a family member. He said that their data says that one in ten people test positive for Covid right now, and many have no symptoms while some are sick. So yes, it’s every where all the time. And yes, it damages our organs and bodily systems even with asymptomatic and mild cases.
deee0@reddit
SOOOO many asymptomatic cases. and a lot of people don't test with mild symptoms and obviously no one is testing when they have zero symptoms.
thick_andy@reddit
I know twelve people who’ve caught pneumonia in the past two weeks. Two of them were hospitalized, both healthy beforehand: 63/f and 9/m. I’m located in NE Indiana.
Slammedtgs@reddit
My 9 year old just got over pneumonia and a relative. Wasn’t terrible but seems early in the year.
KountryKrone@reddit
Actually, this is the prime time of year for it, late summer and early fall.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/walking-pneumonia
deee0@reddit
everyone is saying that every season is sick season right now though which just isn't true. it's covid. people have been sick more often than ever in current generations. have you noticed people around you being sick more year round?
KountryKrone@reddit
Are you implying that this is due to COVID, the vaccines or we weren't exposed to as many of these viruses and that is what is causing these cases of mycoplasma pneumonia?
deee0@reddit
virus exposure strengthening immune systems is a straight up lie! it's due to covid still being around. not vaccines. vaccines prevent critical illness in the actual covid phase vs. long term effects.
KountryKrone@reddit
Your comment wasn't clear. That's why I asked the question I did.
Yes, COVID is still around, but that has nothing to do with mycoplasma pneumonia cases.
deee0@reddit
yes I understand! I wasn't trying to sound argumentative, sorry that I did (I think that may be what you're implying?)
it 100% has to do with covid cases. there's plenty of research on it that just isn't being massively reported on.
KountryKrone@reddit
Mycoplasma pneumonia and COVID are two very different diseases. It starts with the fact that mycoplasma pneumonia is a bacteria and COVID is a virus and goes on into they present differently and the chest Xrays look different.
deee0@reddit
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8086530/
"Interstitial lung disease, predominantly organizing pneumonia, with significant functional deficit was observed in 35/837 survivors (4.8%)."
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24002-covid-pneumonia
"Bilateral interstitial pneumonia in COVID-19 is lung damage on both sides as a result of COVID-19-related pneumonia. This usually happens after the initial (infectious) phase, often in people who have long COVID (post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2, or PASC)."
https://ada.com/covid/covid-19-symptoms-and-pneumonia/
"COVID-19 pneumonia develops slower and lasts longer than other forms of pneumonia."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10193096/
"Organising pneumonia after a mild COVID-19 infection has been increasingly reported and poses a diagnostic challenge to physicians especially in immunocompromised patients."
worth noting that covid essentially makes people immunocompromised due to organ damage, especially cumulative damage in multiple infections.
there are plenty more resources on this but I'm working right now!
deee0@reddit
I'm just trying to relay the truth 🤷♀️ idk what to tell you. it's post-covid.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8086530/
"Interstitial lung disease, predominantly organizing pneumonia, with significant functional deficit was observed in 35/837 survivors (4.8%)."
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24002-covid-pneumonia
"Bilateral interstitial pneumonia in COVID-19 is lung damage on both sides as a result of COVID-19-related pneumonia. This usually happens after the initial (infectious) phase, often in people who have long COVID (post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2, or PASC)."
https://ada.com/covid/covid-19-symptoms-and-pneumonia/
"COVID-19 pneumonia develops slower and lasts longer than other forms of pneumonia."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10193096/
"Organising pneumonia after a mild COVID-19 infection has been increasingly reported and poses a diagnostic challenge to physicians especially in immunocompromised patients."
worth noting that covid essentially makes people immunocompromised due to organ damage, especially cumulative damage in multiple infections.
deee0@reddit
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8086530/
"Interstitial lung disease, predominantly organizing pneumonia, with significant functional deficit was observed in 35/837 survivors (4.8%)."
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24002-covid-pneumonia
"Bilateral interstitial pneumonia in COVID-19 is lung damage on both sides as a result of COVID-19-related pneumonia. This usually happens after the initial (infectious) phase, often in people who have long COVID (post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2, or PASC)."
https://ada.com/covid/covid-19-symptoms-and-pneumonia/
"COVID-19 pneumonia develops slower and lasts longer than other forms of pneumonia."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10193096/
"Organising pneumonia after a mild COVID-19 infection has been increasingly reported and poses a diagnostic challenge to physicians especially in immunocompromised patients."
worth noting that covid essentially makes people immunocompromised due to organ damage, especially cumulative damage in multiple infections.
there are plenty more resources on this but I'm working right now and it's hard to find everything. if you just look up post-covid pneumonia or something to that effect, there are a lot of things that come up.
DifferentiallyLinear@reddit
You dont catch pneumonia. pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease.
thick_andy@reddit
Hey friend, thank you for the info. I believe we are both right. I’m pretty sure that there is a viral form of pneumonia.
SolidStranger13@reddit
caused primarily by opportunity, due to covid infection
jareddeity@reddit
Also in NE indiana and there was a wave of people sick recently to include myself, fever is gone but im still dealing with other symptoms. However i am luckily healthy enough to not need hospitalization and have not needed to go to the doctor just yet.
Party_Image5023@reddit
yep same here NW indiana my nephew 7 and a family friend female have walking pneumonia
hotdogbo@reddit
My kids had some sort of pneumonia last month. It was the first time they were sick and didn’t spread it to me or my husband.
LobsterFeetPolka@reddit
We are located in Central Indiana, and our household recently experienced walking pneumonia. We are currently dealing with lingering nasal congestion that just won't go away. It has been two months!
skullcutter@reddit
That actually does sound like mycoplasma. Usually it’s a self-limited infection (assuming you are not immunocompromised) but symptoms can easily last over a month.
rindthirty@reddit
I won't mention the C word because nobody wants to hear about it anymore. But I'll just leave this here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2319417023000872
Don't look up.
NotDinahShore@reddit (OP)
Wow. That’s frightening. No doubt in my mind that Covid escaped from the lab. It’s the perfect virological predator.
Neat_Touch_7224@reddit
Virginia schools in my area and health department sent out notices last week about increased pneumonia cases of unknown origin. Health department is asking providers to send in tests to trace the strain.
deee0@reddit
ask them to test everyone for covid
Redditsucksssssss@reddit
had this exact thing a few months ago, (2-3ish) it knocks you out for 5 days, then gives you a lingering cough for about 3 weeks.
MissSplash@reddit
I'm in Canada. In the first 2 weeks of school, there were 5 kids out with pneumonia in my grandsons class. At the same time. We're exposing children (and ourselves) to a pathogen that basically destroys their immune system. Where will they be in 30 years? Disabled likely at this rate. How has killing and disabling everyone helped the blessed economy? Is it worth it? I'm horrified for my children and grandchildren. And just so very sad.
fleeingcats@reddit
Many kids graduating high school can't even read anymore.
You're kidding yourself if you think this society has 30 years left.
deee0@reddit
literally bc of covid brain fog. I read a literal newborn was diagnosed with dementia, likely because of the mother exposing it to covid during/after pregnancy.
TrekRider911@reddit
Can confirm. At least four kids on my social media have it now. Just normal pneumonia that everyone gets, right?
I don’t recall all my friends getting it when I was growing up.
blizmd@reddit
It’s not exactly super rare previously but for some reason the cases in young people have surged; thankfully it’s almost always easily treatable
Barnaboule69@reddit
Almost as if there was some disease that messed up everyone's immune system.
deee0@reddit
nooo but covid is over /s
Davo300zx@reddit
Careful, that's commie talk. Communism is anything you don't like.
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
… Cilantro is communist? No wonder my husband likes it.
Concrete__Blonde@reddit
Yes, it’s always worth getting treatment. Pneumonia can turn into sepsis if left untreated.
modsgay@reddit
I only ever heard about pneumonia when it took an older person out or someone was very sick and in the hospital with it
watchnlearning@reddit
They didn’t. None of us can. But the majority of the planet was not trashing their immune systems with repeated covid infections
caveatlector73@reddit
The immune system is supposed to deal with infection and disease. Walking pneumonia is primarily on the rise in toddlers although the elderly are also susceptible. Please share a legit source correlating repeated COVID infections with the rise in walking pneumonia. Just a reminder correlation is not causation.
watchnlearning@reddit
Hmmm. More free labour? So tempting.
But I’m deeply indebted to you for letting me know that some people can’t get vaccines. It’s not like I consider them at all - I just wear a respirator for fun because I get off on dickheads staring at me, and coughing at me.
It’s definitely not like I lobbied the government for actually making novavax available or anything. Which they decided not to do.
Regardless of whether you like my colloquial language “trashing immune systems” is a fact, not a moral judgement.
Plenty of leads for you in the compilation I’ve shared on this thread.
caveatlector73@reddit
Hmmm. You are an internet stranger and yet I'm supposed to know all those things about you? Wow. Now that I look I notice your avatar isn't wearing a respirator. You might want to consider changing that to a more accurate meirl so people don't have to guess. lmao
SolidStranger13@reddit
afrosphere@reddit
Here you go fam start here
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/d4dzdprw7rrcdsii6xvlq/Lola-Germs-Reference-List-light-mode.pdf?rlkey=ufy6cp1kq7qd1b6ovhko938o1&st=oettjgvf&dl=0
From a great sci com youtuber, please check out their video
https://youtu.be/2HGi81LsXtA?si=e4wcsfNF8Crhm5nP
If you find more papers on the devastating effects of covid infections please feel free to share
HospitalElectrical25@reddit
This is a Google doc with several studies.
SKI326@reddit
I have close to 100 studies from around the world but I’m not your personal secretary. Gi find them yourself. They’re out there.
caveatlector73@reddit
I don't need to find them. As noted I posted factual links to my points despite not being your mommy. I already have the intel. However you are on a sub that encourages links as evidence. Try to keep up.
LexTheSouthern@reddit
My toddler just got over it. ER doctor told us 45% of the cases they’re seeing of pneumonia right now are young children.
Inevitable_Bee_7495@reddit
Covid wrecked ppl's immune systems
ValMo88@reddit
After the “Spanish Flu” of 1919, for about a decade, there was high mortality from lung diseases, which were unusual until the 1920s, and unusual after the 1920s.
MrsBeauregardless@reddit
Local pharmacies where I live (mid-Atlantic) are running out of antibiotics.
It’s because COVID is being ignored and everyone who gets it has a compromised immune system as a result.
Mycoplasma pneumonia is also one of those diseases people with AIDS used to die of, to the extent that if someone young died of pneumonia, it was the polite fiction, and people assumed it was AIDS, back in the ‘80s.
someofyourbeeswaxx@reddit
I’ve seen about a dozen cases of pneumonia this year among my 75 high school students. That stands out compared to past years. These are healthy kids generally, location is northern New England
Coro-NO-Ra@reddit
It's kind of sobering when you think that, just 100-120 years ago, those kids probably would have died.
ziggy3610@reddit
I had a buddy who stepped on a nail and got a blood infection bad enough to send him to the ER in just a few hours. Antibiotics definitely saved his life.
prettyrickywooooo@reddit
One of the greatest jugglers of all time died from a little scratch in his mouth from a juggling prop due to antibiotics not being invented yet at the time. I can’t even imagine ❤️
someofyourbeeswaxx@reddit
I think about that all the time (history teacher).
thehostwiththetoast@reddit
Hello northern N.E from your lower, one half is a giant city other half is boondocks neighbor!
someofyourbeeswaxx@reddit
waves hello
Watneronie@reddit
I teach 6th grade, there has been quite a bit pneumonia this year.
Vetiversailles@reddit
https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/mycoplasma-pneumoniae-infections-have-been-increasing.html
It’s definitely on the rise and apparently especially in school children
says-stuff@reddit
When will people admit what covid is doing to us
Atticus413@reddit
I've seen a LOT of atypical pneumonia this year in the Northern Florida region. Talked to a pediatrician who had brought HIS daughter to our urgent care, who was seeing the same thing (we treated his daughter for mycoplasma.) Very weird.
stuuuda@reddit
Repeat covid infections make ppl more susceptible to infections like this, so likely
Dissapointingdong@reddit
I have no idea, but if I have to spell that to figure out how to treat myself it’s over.
kupo_moogle@reddit
My friends son had it last week. I wonder why it’s spreading here in Canada?
watchnlearning@reddit
Covid covid covid covid covid covid
Covid does cumulative damage to immune systems and a lot more.
Want brain damage - covid has you sorted. Heart attack - covid (not the vax) Shingles - covid. Weird sensitivity to fungal infections - covid. Want to triple the population with POTS - our mate covid
Dimako98@reddit
Pure speculation.
Your source: you made it up.
Millennial_on_laptop@reddit
Source
Source
Source
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Dimako98@reddit
It's still speculation that this particular disease rising is due to covid. It's not like it's never happened before.
watchnlearning@reddit
People like you are so gross and sad. When you ask for proof you get it.
But then the goal posts move.
Dimako98@reddit
That was always my goalpost. Learn to read.
watchnlearning@reddit
Good luck with long covid babe. Just cross fingers and hope the healthcare system hasn’t collapsed when it’s your turn
Millennial_on_laptop@reddit
You don't think a weakened immune system makes you more susceptible to disease?
We do have evidence of Covid specifically causing lung damage and Pneumonia:
The Mycoplasma part is a new surge, so it's still too early for direct evidence, but the signs are there.
iwannabe_gifted@reddit
So the Vax is safe 🤔
watchnlearning@reddit
Vastly safer than getting covid repeatedly, yes.
All vaccines have some side effects. A tiny percentage of people had serious ones.
It’s taking all my strength to answer this in good faith, even though you have no intention of challenging your own bias.
I’m sorry you are a sheeple following along with what the government wants. Truly. Y’all have been way more impactful with your disinformation than the government could ever hope to be.
They want people to keep working, keep pretending everything is ok, while covid kills 1000 Americans a week https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-vaccine-side-effects-study-b2501088.html
iwannabe_gifted@reddit
Coved will become like the flu eventually but that timeliness uncertain
stopbeingaturddamnit@reddit
Citation please. Covid is killing 38x more people than the flu. It's got a very long way to go, and viral evolution does not always result in "mild". See measles, rabies, and polio.
iwannabe_gifted@reddit
What mechanism does coved use cause im frustrated with myself for thinking covid was nothing and I don't know what to believe cause I want to think it's nothing. Any good sources on how coved works/affects us?... There is also doctors who are now antivax including lawsuits and cover ups so if both are true we are actually really screwed cause the vaccine doesn't protect from being infected
Forsaken_Bison_8623@reddit
This is a solid list of experts who regularly post about the latest studies regarding covid and the longer term impacts were seeing
Not in any particular order
https://x.com/michael_hoerger - Director of the Covid19 forecasting dashboard - Great place to find current and forecasted data based on wastewater tracking
https://x.com/zalaly - Scientist & leading long covid researcher in the US
https://x.com/TRyanGregory - Professor of evolutionary biology
https://x.com/MLS_Dave - ER physician
https://x.com/drseanmullen - Neuroscientist and Research Director @EtcLab
https://x.com/JamesThrot - Neuropathologist
https://x.com/michaelmina_lab - dr and scientist specializing in immunology and epidemiology
https://x.com/joeolivermd - Pediatrician
https://x.com/DaniBeckman - Neuroscientist, PhD in Biological Chemistry
https://x.com/PeteUK7 - Chemical engineer
https://x.com/beccyjaneh - NHS physician
https://x.com/jeremyfaust - Harvard ER physician
https://x.com/Sunny_Rae1 - NHS cardiologist
https://x.com/lisa_iannattone - Harvard fellowship MD
https://x.com/drclairetaylor - UK neuroscientist
https://x.com/Friesein/ - This person has chosen to protect their identity - But they are on top of the latest consistently and share well rounded information from many different sources.
https://x.com/WesElyMD - Long covid specialist
https://x.com/MichaelPelusoMD - Infectious disease specialist
https://x.com/tmprowell - Oncolgoist
https://x.com/SGriffin_Lab - Professor of oncology and immunology
https://x.com/DaliaHasanMD - MD in Ontario
https://x.com/MoriartyLab - Professor and Infectious Diseases Researcher
https://x.com/fitterhappierAJ - T cell immunologist
https://x.com/julia_doubleday - International and domestic politics
https://x.com/DrTomFrieden - Epidemiologist
https://x.com/drclairetaylor - Long Covid specialist
https://x.com/EricTopol - Physician Scientist
https://x.com/PutrinoLab - Mt Sinai Scientist
https://x.com/CatchTheBaby - OB from Stanford
https://x.com/JPWeiland - Scientist & Infectious disease modeler
https://x.com/NohaAboelataMD - MD in CA
https://x.com/Yash25571056 - Japanese scientist & professor
https://x.com/krutikakuppalli - Infectious disease physician
https://x.com/dgurdasani1 - clinical epidemiology
https://x.com/joeyfox85 - HVAC engineer
https://x.com/microbeminded2 - Microbiologist at PolyBio Research Foundation
https://x.com/virusesimmunity - Yale professor of Immunobiology and Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
https://x.com/kprather88 - UC San Diego scientist
https://x.com/k_bishof - Former firefighter paramedic who is now disabled due to long covid, LC advocate
https://twitter.com/EwanEadie - UVC Researcher
https://x.com/masknerd - Mechanical engineer with background in aerosol science
https://x.com/jljcolorado - Chemistry & Biochemistry Professor
https://x.com/FarUVSterilray - UVC Company
https://x.com/mvgutierrezmd - Professor & Chair of Rehabilitation Medicine
https://x.com/ToshiAkima - Nephrology & Internal Medicine
https://x.com/c19lh_advocacy - Long Covid Advocacy
https://x.com/luckytran - Science communicator at Columbia with PhD in biology
https://x.com/Clean_Air_Club - Clean Air Advocacy
https://x.com/NjbBari3 - Infectious disease specialist
https://x.com/ukhadds - Aerosols scientist
https://x.com/LauraMiers - Long covid patient since March 2020
https://x.com/ryantennant_ - Biomed engineering
SolidStranger13@reddit
Such a great list, thank you for sharing. I follow a good amount of these accounts already, and confirm they are very informative!
watchnlearning@reddit
This is great - do you have these in a list on twitter?
Forsaken_Bison_8623@reddit
I don't, just pulled this together for a relative who wanted to start being better informed.
Following these is a great starting point and will lead you to finding others you want to follow as well.
watchnlearning@reddit
Oh I follow heaps already - just was seeing if it was in easy format - but thanks
watchnlearning@reddit
Good on you for being open to learning
It's bloody serious - check out my collection at bitdotly/CovidCareful
It's not your fault - governments are failing us. But n95 masks for fam will change your risk substantially
Noone who needs a clear head in an emergency wants this brain fog - It's brain damage and we should call it something more serious
stopbeingaturddamnit@reddit
Start here https://youhavetoliveyour.life/
SeaWeedSkis@reddit
Pubmed
chopper923@reddit
Nope
softsnowfall@reddit
Yes! It is so great to read a reasoned science-based comment about covid. Thank you. It feels good to see there are other people out there who know who serious covid really is. So many don’t test for it or care that they spread it. Nightmare fuel.
I fail to understand how so many completely ignore study after study that say covid destroys the immune system, shrinks brains, damages blood vessels, reduces IQ by 3 to 7 points, causes strokes, causes POTS, causes diabetes, and etc…
watchnlearning@reddit
It's terrifying. People who aren't on Twitter or other informed socials spaces just aren't seeing it.
And most people don't want to know. I spent 100s of hours reading through sources and collating info to share with intelligent friends - they don't wanna know
It's here if useful - when I have time I will put it into a better format and needs updating bitdotly/CovidCareful
jkhabe@reddit
My 30 YO daughter who lives in Hawaii (Oahu) is just getting over a case of bacterial pneumonia. Apparently it is going around in Hawaii...
Key-Cranberry-1875@reddit
Covid damages the immune system. Come on preppers you are suppose to be prepared
Dadtadpole@reddit
it’s mostly because of covid. it wrecks/has wrecked a lot our bodies a shocking amount (from what we know so far)
Thae86@reddit
Remember, whatever the answer is, it's not covid, apparently 🫠
Successful_Bunch9465@reddit
I’ve had pneumonia twice in the last nine weeks. I’ve never had pneumonia before. I am a teacher.
Keji70gsm@reddit
Covid. We know this.
rivertam2985@reddit
This was the top story on my news feed tonight.
TrekRider911@reddit
Yeah, send 'em back infectious! /s
IAmNovakin@reddit
Just got diagnosed with pneumonia yesterday; American northeast
LiJiCh@reddit
It randomly started and went through my entire household two months ago. Started as a minor cough in my oldest, then walking pneumonia in me, then my youngest, and back to my oldest. Was a miserable two months but we all beat it without much more than OTC medicine, masks, and good hygiene
watchnlearning@reddit
Pneumonia doesn’t just randomly start friend. And not at the scale people are experiencing.
More people are getting flu and RSV worse and more often because their immune systems have been trashed by covid. And of course it can be a result of covid directly.
People never got seriously sick with respiratory virus multiple times a year en masse before 2020. Your kiddos are almost guaranteed to get some form of long covid if you don’t mitigate.
Not getting covid is a pretty damn solid prep for the future
TheMinick@reddit
It’s so sad and true. Most people arent thinking this way yet.
watchnlearning@reddit
It hurts my heart
We are early. We are not wrong.
I would be so happy to be wrong.
Every single time I respond with actual science and references to anti vaxxers as they demand they disappear.
LiJiCh@reddit
I think ours started as chest colds/infections, I was already past the peak by the time I went to the doctor. It wasn’t COVID, we all got tested three different ways.
watchnlearning@reddit
Im not saying it was covid. Im saying the mass uptick in flu, pneumonia, pots, shingles, heart issues and strokes in young people and so much more is the result of cumulative damage to immune systems from covid.
It's not coming out of nowhere. And it's very scary in and of itself, let alone with looming bird flu.
They are talking around the issue but if its been found in one pig it's in a bunch. And it is spreading H2H - but they can't bring themselves to admit that yet (and its not doing so effectively or with serious symptoms yet)
No-Win-1137@reddit
Not this again.
GridDown55@reddit
Yes. It's due to COVID immune system damage. Mask up.
Objective-Original-2@reddit
Not sure about SoCal but here in NY me and a bunch of other people got really sick some bad cold. Felt like I had COVID and was coughing ngl up phlegm for almost two weeks after
Throwawayconcern2023@reddit
Yes, there is a rise in "walking pneumonia" among children in particular. If your immune system is strong, you'll be fine.
watchnlearning@reddit
Anyone who has had covid a few times - their immune system is most definitely not “fine”
There are so many studies
rabbismoltz@reddit
I’ve had covid 5 times that I know of I was working in a hospital when it started. I took the med that was claimed didn’t work and never developed symptoms beyond slight discomfort and elevated temp. Which resolved in about 24 hours.
edgestander@reddit
lol well with anecdotal evidence like that not sure why they don’t give it full blessing, no research needed.
rabbismoltz@reddit
Because you cannot get an emergency use authorization for a vaccine if there is a safe and effective medication available for treating the illness. So they had to suppress and discredit anything that actually worked.
SpecialistOk3384@reddit
Eh. People seem to not understand what strong means and if that actually helps vs just having a normal immune system. If your immune system is normal, and you get pneumonia without other diseases or viruses hitting at the same time (example being the flu) you might beat it in a normal amount of time. You might also need some basic medicine to fight it off. If you have a weakened or drained or damaged/dysfunctional immune system, yeah you're going to have some problems.
If your immune system is to be 'strong'... You get very strong immune response symptoms which are also not fun. In several cases they were lethal with the original flu pandemic but in general, people got sick and a compromised immune system, and died of pneumonia.
Brilliant1965@reddit
I have an actual immune deficiency. Doctor is investigating, I’ve been getting lots of throat infections and thank goodness not worse infections. I don’t go out much because I work from home. I have autoimmune diseases and on meds that also suppress the immune system, and have long Covid from Covid before vaccines. I remember the days I had a strong immune system. I’m just scared of getting something worse, and I’m at doctor offices the most. I definitely always mask and wash my hands, stay away from large groups. It’s scary to know i don’t have better defenses.
bristlybits@reddit
your immune system is not a muscle
SBTreeLobster@reddit
not with that attitude
Striper_Cape@reddit
The immune system is an army, not a shield. It needs soldiers and to make soldiers. You know what else can get exhausted like an army? Attrited? Defeated? Your immune system.
zombiesofnewyork@reddit
Pre-K teacher here 👋🏻 we have several students in our school currently diagnosed with walking pneumonia. Interesting to hear that cases are on the rise.
Toof@reddit
Just, for data points, does anyone have long COVID that wasn't vaccinated? My wife and I were vaccinated, and she seems to be going through it this season.
Top-Plantain6035@reddit
I have seen a ton of it in our pediatric clinic at work for the past 2 months, never seen this much ever. Only thing I've seen is an off handed article that said France experienced a massive outbreak over the summer prior to the olympics
matt2001@reddit
I'm getting over an upper respiratory infection and had pleuritic pain with inspiration... Now other family members are coughing. It could be this.
Jad3d_6347@reddit
Michigan here- so many cases of pneumonia the last two months. Was in the hospital last week, thru the week I was tested for covid 3 times, rsv, strep, and flu all negative. Xrays for pneumonia clear and bloodwork for mono negative. They said it's a virus they are seeing A LOT of it these past few weeks. 5 people at my work were out sick same symptoms, also told random virus. Its been a weird time
PinkRibbonClub@reddit
I'm a teacher in New York State (not the city). Pneumonia is rampant among the kids! And a few of the adults are getting it. My coworker's daughter had a fever that wasn't going away. The pediatrician said that her lungs didn't sound like she had pneumonia but sent her for a chest x-ray to be sure because they were seeing so many cases. She had pneumonia! The CDC just changed the recommendation lowering the eligible age to get the pneumococcal vaccine to 50.
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
The pneumococcal vaccine is for Streptococcus pneumoniae, not Mycoplasma pneumoniae (walking pneumoniae). Strep pneumoniae is nasty though. I am a microbiologist and I’ve seen several ear infections caused by Strep pneumoniae lately, which isn’t unheard of but why so many…
PinkRibbonClub@reddit
Thanks so much for the clarifying information!
psychonaut11@reddit
From the wiki page:
Outbreaks follow a 3–7 year cycle.[13][3][14] It is thought that factors such as climate, season, and geography have little impact on rates of M. pneumoniae.[3] Cases in the United States are more prevalent in the late summer and early fall, while other regions report that seasons did not affect case rate.[3][14] It is thought that weather events like El Niño can impact the yearly cycles and seasonal difference between continents.[14]
My guess is that changing climate is causing a more than usual outbreak this year. But this is the time of year outbreaks generally occur
NuminousMycroft@reddit
It’s running rampant among kids in Ohio.
ExtremeSet1464@reddit
It’s in the rise according to a lot of doctors I’ve seen
Famous_Fondant_4107@reddit
It’s HEAVILY going around. It is AIRBORNE. Mask up with N95s!
Stock_Block2130@reddit
I had mycoplasma pneumonia back around 1999. Same lung feeling as Covid. You need an X-ray to verify and then get antibiotics - and warning - it often comes back and then you need a stronger antibiotic. Quote from the physician when he saw my X-ray - if you weren’t right here in front of me, I would have thought the X-ray was from an ICU patient.
Street-Marionberry50@reddit
A good way to prepare for this is to boost immune system with vitamin D. Majority developed deficiency to vitamin D during the lockdown. Search Dr. John Campbell from YouTube for he's research regarding this.
Apophylita@reddit
Yes! Vitamin d, and zinc, green tea, ginger, cayenne... Hot sauce hot enough to cough up liquid in your lungs. The truck is to minimize the length of time the sickness is in your lungs. Tends to slide down. Mouthwash, hydrogen peroxide swish, saltwater rinses. Fruits, vegetables. All the vitamins...
Shortymac09@reddit
Dr. Campbell was great before he jumped on the vaxx denial train
watchnlearning@reddit
Vitamin D is great.
Any reason you think it’s relevant that 4 years ago almost all of the United States was locked down for no more than 2-3 months?
4 summers ago?
Street-Marionberry50@reddit
Not sure but deficiency to important vitamins needed by our body for immune system should be checked as it can be liability to our overall health. IMO
watchnlearning@reddit
Absolutely agree. Lockdowns have nothing to do with current vitamin D levels though.
And unfortunately vitamins can only help so much against a virus like covid during an ongoing pandemic
Same-Cricket-6387@reddit
I live in eastern Canada and there is a lot of cases of it right now. I work at a children’s hospital and it’s been a big deal
jammin_jalapeno27@reddit
Relax. Mycoplasma is one of the many causes of pneumonia that have been dealing with forever.
Just avoid sick people and see a doctor if you’re not feeling well. Get your flu shot too, it has a good chance of preventing it.
jammin_jalapeno27@reddit
Because Reddit only allows one pic per comment.
jammin_jalapeno27@reddit
jammin_jalapeno27@reddit
DifferentManagement1@reddit
My 14 yr old had it in August (east coast)
mel9036@reddit
I’m in Ohio and our local school sent out a notice about seeing more cases and what to look for last week.
tiredgurl@reddit
Can you pm me which district you're in?
WilhelmvonCatface@reddit
We are heading in to winter, respiratory disease will rise.
tinygiggs@reddit
I've heard that several kids in the midwest have been battling it recently. Was going to Google it myself but hadn't made it that far myself.
doozerequinox@reddit
There’s been tons of pediatric walking pneumonia recently. The office ladies at school warned me to keep an eye out for it when I called a kid out sick.
edgestander@reddit
I had it in August, ended up with a 3 day hospital stay, sickest I’ve ever been.
JenFMac@reddit
I’m in Ottawa, Canada and there is a concerning increasing in those cases here as well. News reported on it this morning.
reincarnateme@reddit
Walking pneumonia alerts in NY
Initial_Flatworm_735@reddit
Covid makes this particular infection much much much easier. I guarantee they publish a paper about it in the next 2 years. I used to work in the micro lab with this
onlyIcancallmethat@reddit
You can get vaccinated for pneumonia
uhbkodazbg@reddit
There is no vaccine for mycoplasma pneumonia (aka walking pneumonia).
Swimming-Effect7675@reddit
ive had this for 3 weeks now and only just recovering after 3 rounds of different antibiotics. im in nova scotia canada
Lifesabeach6789@reddit
Took 6 weeks of antibiotics for me to kick it.
Doxycycline
Azithromysin
Lastly, Moxifloxacin.
Still not 100% and I got sick beginning of July.
rottenconfetti@reddit
I was just in the ER with bilateral pneumonia. Had Covid that turned nasty and I’m still sick six weeks later and after ER treatment. It’s running rampant up here after school started and people are really sick for weeks and weeks. Definitely worse than previous rounds.
Lifesabeach6789@reddit
Happened to me in the summer. Caught covid for the 1st time from my dad’s hospital room last weekend in june (he died from it). Then I got sick a few days later. Started with muscle aches, sinus congestion and cough.
Then changed to a gastro bug for 2 weeks. Then to pneumonia.
Spent from July 25th-Sept 9th on Antibiotics. Thought I was dying for a while. Just ghastly.
Still congested now.
PinataofPathology@reddit
It can be manipulated by bots so I'm not sure it's a valid data signal anymore. Cases have increased per official sources but histrionic hand wringing all over social media is a little off IMHO.
afigmentofyourmind@reddit
Ill be blunt - its the vaccines.
Jenniferinfl@reddit
I just had it. Got the flu mildly, I'm sure if was mild because I had my flu shot the month before. But then I got pneumonia.. lol
Still coughing a month after finishing my antibiotics. It was rough.
It was a very mucus heavy flu. So gross.
grandmaester@reddit
I got it on 08/23. Felt weird for a day, then sudden high fever that lasted a week. Went to doc four times during that week, they said severe pneumonia. Went on two antibiotics. The cough and pneumonia symptoms lasted until October. I still have some gunk in my lungs but pretty much back to normal. Pneumonia is no joke
santabarbara_olive@reddit
I’ve had it since July. Been treated twice for it and will be needing another treatment. I’m immunosuppressed. Not contagious. Missouri.
spaetzelspiff@reddit
Well posting it on Reddit isn't helping :)
After-Leopard@reddit
I have a coworker who recently passed from pneumonia. He was in his 40s and healthy so it was a huge shock
TheMinick@reddit
Wow
LexTheSouthern@reddit
Yes there is. My 3 year old just got over pneumonia. I took her to the emergency room because she sounded really bad and had a high fever. However, I was expecting flu or even Covid. I was not expecting pneumonia.
The attending physician told us 45% of their pneumonia cases right now are young children.
Amazing-Tear-5185@reddit
Spreading through my daughter’s school currently.
rabbismoltz@reddit
Could it be the 30 million unvaccinated people coming from unsanitary conditions. With cases of every disease known to man including confirmed cases of people with tuberculosis that were released in 44 states.
AwaitingBabyO@reddit
My husband had the nastiest cough I've ever heard him have in the 10 years I've known him, from mid-September until about last week.
An x-ray confirmed it was pneumonia about 2 weeks in.
I know 2 other people with pneumonia right now as well, both in their 30s. One is hospitalized.
I've never heard of multiple people in my life developing pneumonia at the same time, especially people who aren't elderly or have any health conditions. Definitely a little odd.
CrazyAnimalLady77@reddit
COVID or Covid related illness
jarpio@reddit
If you’re healthy, and between the ages of 12-55 you can probably ignore it. Just like with everything other disease
jmnugent@reddit
Nobody should "ignore" infectious diseases. Just because you're less affected by it,. doesn't mean you can't pass it along to someone who would die from it. Protective measures you take might be to protect yourself,. but you should also think of others.
Below is a screenshot of data from the Northern Colorado county I lived in during Covid19. It shows:
most of the deaths were above 60yrs old
but most of the cases were in the 18-54 group.
You can spread something to others and perpetuate the chain of infection (knowingly or unknowingly). This is why everyone should take precautions, regardless of whether you believe you are low risk or not.
https://imgur.com/7UQnhO4.jpg
plotthick@reddit
No. There are plenty of diseases out there that live to plow through the young. The 1912 flu, for one, and HPAI for another.
jarpio@reddit
The young yes. Like babies and toddlers. Children under 5. They are vulnerable to every disease. Just like the old are. Which is why I said 12-55.
plotthick@reddit
Okay bud
jarpio@reddit
Narratives hate numbers
socalefty@reddit
The first line drugs given for pneumonia are penicillins. Unfortunately they don’t work against Mycoplasma pneumoniae, which needs azithromycin. So people get sicker even though they are being treated. Also, it’s expensive to test for Mycoplasma pneumoniae (at least in my lab), so its not done frequently unless there is severe illness.
cafeteriastyle@reddit
My son had this over the summer. He’s 8. He didn’t have to be hospitalized but it took like two weeks for it to clear up. He had to have a nebulizer treatment at the doctor and then he had an inhaler to use as needed. They also prescribed antibiotics. I felt like it was never going to clear up! We went to the Dr like 4 times
ArtisanalDickCheeses@reddit
My friend and her kid are down with pneumonia in SW Washington. My parents have it. All this week.
Cryptid_Chaser@reddit
Today’s Your Local Epidemiologist is about that. She says cases are 10x higher than last year, and there’s a graph showing more kids have it.
boegsppp@reddit
My neice has it in DE.
Golden5StarMan@reddit
I just checked Google trends and I’m not seeing this, where are you getting your data from?
watchnlearning@reddit
When I googled it I got a tonne of hits
But for the love of everything holy - folks, stop falling for this government propaganda. It is absolutely insane to me that people are falling for this.
In the city I used to live in they had some of the strictest lock downs and that was still just a matter of months. It is absurd that people are saying with straight faces that kids are so sick, so often “these days” (in an ongoing pandemic) because of a few months max - in most places - of lockdowns 4 years ago.
Kids actually have long covid. A lot of them. Google long covid and kids. Better still, Google scholar. Please 🙏🏼
“The pandemic may have impacted the number of walking pneumonia cases for diverse reasons. Some theorize that children stayed home during the pandemic and didn’t develop any immunity against the bacteria because they were kept away from it. It’s also possible that the COVID-19 virus itself has made lungs that dealt with it more symptom-prone when it comes to this bacteria.”
wolpertingersunite@reddit
You have a good point but both things can be true. It wasn’t just the lockdowns. People reduced their interactions for a long time. A lot of social habits never recovered at all.
watchnlearning@reddit
What social habits do you mean? I see 95% of people living like it’s 2019.
Both things are not in fact true. One is a talking point repeated by government, most healthcare and media to encourage short term economic gain for business (long term losses to economy are projected in the trillions)
Hybrid immunity is literally made up. Your immune system does not strengthen with covid infections that actually damage it.
Crazyblue09@reddit
My daughter was sick, went to the Dr and he said it was early pneumonia symptoms.
SplipperyDurpanzo@reddit
I was just in the hospital for pneumonia 2 weeks ago, it was quite rough
wolpertingersunite@reddit
That sucks! I hope you’re feeling better now. Better take it easy for awhile.
wolpertingersunite@reddit
They mentioned that on npr the other day.
comet1109@reddit
I live in St.John's newfoundland , Canada and we have an outbreak of "walking" Pneaumonia among kids and it's spreading fast threw the adults as well.
YardFudge@reddit
NPR had a news story on walking pneumonia this week.
Pretty widespread to make national news.
Mitigation is the same as COVID - mask in dense public places, wash hands, isolate if sick, etc.
LadyDenofMeade@reddit
There was a health alert for it sent out about 2 weeks ago for the Midwest, I'm not surprised it's finally filtering over to the West Coast.
I've seen ALOT more community acquired pneumonia than normal the past 2 months.
M.Pneu is a common bug though and can cause multiple things.
Wash your hands and don't touch your face.
watchnlearning@reddit
Air Borne Transmission Is a thing
That is how covid spreads. That’s why respiratory masks are an excellent prep/investment in your long term health
iridescent-shimmer@reddit
Yeah my friend is a PA and said he's sent like 12 people to the ER for pneumonia in just the last two weeks.
StephanieKaye@reddit
It’s just mild pneumonia, guys. Get back to work.