God, I love looking at Russian casualty numbers. I used to look at pornhub for pleasure. Now I check Russian casualty reports to fap, and every now and then look at China's fertility rate.
The future looks bright. Now, if only we could introduce feminism to the Middle East, all of our enemies would cease to exist in like 25 years.
It's wonderful to find like minded people. I am voting Kamala just to further ensure that shit stain of a country isn't relevant again in my lifetime. Fuck Russia.
I hope we didn’t destroy Ukraine, create a Russian/Chinese anti US alliance, and cripple the EU by blowing up Nordstrom’s for nothing.
I genuinely want what’s best for America, which is why I think we should be working with Russia (the distant 3rd world power) against China, who has either surpassed the US or is right at our heels.
honestly I would prefer that than all those deaths of average people who probably didn't want to die. ofc it's russia's fault and all, but as always the normal guys lose and rich people win. the state isn't as important as a life of even one person.
seriously, Putin and Zelensky should go 1 on 1 - or select their best fighters - and let's just resolve this by mma like adults
im not saying it isnt russias fault, but it isnt the russian government thats conscripting sons and fathers and putting them on the front lines, completely uncaring of the casualty rates because all they care about is making sure the current government doesnt lose their jobs
i feel like you're reading something i didnt say. i never said russia wasn't conscripting, they're evil for that too. but just because your enemy is evil doesn't make killing your own people morally good suddenly
Both are doing conscription but Ukraine was trying to leave the under 30 demographic so they could continue the countries future post war but they've had to start conscription for over 25s as they are running out of men
Unless NATO intervenes in full force, capitulation will be the end result in any case. The only variable is the amount of casualties and destruction on both sides.
That's what they said about the Chechens. Turns out they just needed to find a corrupt leader to put in the right place. Tbh I don't disagree with you, but what the Ukrainians want is irrelevant. As I've said, either nato joins in, in full force, or Ukraine will have to capitulate sooner or later.
Capitulate what, the whole country? Even if Zelenksy agreed russia would have millions of Ukrainian civilians attacking them all the time. If would happen exactly like it happened to the US army in Afghanistan and Iraq, just insurgent attacks all the time.
It depends, I think what you said was more true when the war started. Now most of the Ukrainian nationalist are dead, and lots escaped abroad, understandably. But tbh it matters little, controlling the terrain is secondary for Russia, the primary objective is to install some sort of puppet in Kiev that they can control, a bit like Lukashenko in Belarus. They might end up annexing just the areas less prone to revolt (basically what they control right now) and then control the rest via puppet.
Tbh, I think it's pointless to discuss this matter in detail, whatever the case, insurgency or not, there is no good way out for the Ukrainians, which was my point.
zelensky had two options: either run away or fight
he chose the third option: to force unwilling civilians to fight for him and ensure his comfy government job, no matter how many of his own people he has to kill to do it
"trust me bro just negotiate with the fascist dictatorship. all they want is one annexation and theyll stop for real this time trust me." sounds familiar...
“Trust me bro, disappearing men into vans to continue a US proxy war is the right thing to do. Those guys should have to fight and die because I’m upset with Putin”
Except, if we are making a Vietnam war analogy, then its actually Russia who is the US in this analogy, since they are quite literally sending their army into another country, while Ukraine is Vietnam. Yes, it sucks that Ukraine is conscripting its citizens into its army. Does it have a realistic alternative? No.
Zelensky is one of the greatest leaders in the world and it is fucking abhorrent how cowardly Biden is handling the situation and fucking terrifying that the U.S. would just allow fascist garbage nation like Russia to dominate Europe.
I hope Kamala steps up and starts eradicating those Russian vermin. Even at the cost of nuclear war if necessary. There can be no peace on this earth as long as they exist.
Hopefully, Trump will win and actually end the war. Kamala will just cackle at them and Putin would probably go “who the fuck let this negress into my palace?”
You’d be surprised how many joes are on Ivan’s side and think we’re finding the wrong country
I work with them and I’m In fucking defense manufacturing. We literally make money arming the Ukrainians but these idiots are too blinded by political rage and propaganda to see that
It’s to project the image that he’s at war. He doesn’t have the luxury of shaving and wearing a suit! Even when he’s visiting other countries for yet more money and missiles.
monkeyninja6969@reddit
God, I love looking at Russian casualty numbers. I used to look at pornhub for pleasure. Now I check Russian casualty reports to fap, and every now and then look at China's fertility rate.
The future looks bright. Now, if only we could introduce feminism to the Middle East, all of our enemies would cease to exist in like 25 years.
beefsquints@reddit
It's wonderful to find like minded people. I am voting Kamala just to further ensure that shit stain of a country isn't relevant again in my lifetime. Fuck Russia.
GandalfTheGimp@reddit
What you think Kamala is going to do?
beefsquints@reddit
Continue helping Ukraine, Russia is very much on a timer.
BigFloppaGaeming@reddit
as a russian, based.
YouCantStopMeJannie@reddit
While you're jerking off to fake news goyslope, coal-men burns your village and rapes your mother.
The present state of amerimuts in an era where world dominance is falling into the hands of China.
monkeyninja6969@reddit
Found the Chinabot.
AutoJannietator@reddit
Look at Africa's fertility rate.
monkeyninja6969@reddit
A certain autoimmune disease was the solution to the Africa problem. Not that they could ever evolve past living in mud huts anyway.
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
God I hope you’re right.
I hope we didn’t destroy Ukraine, create a Russian/Chinese anti US alliance, and cripple the EU by blowing up Nordstrom’s for nothing.
I genuinely want what’s best for America, which is why I think we should be working with Russia (the distant 3rd world power) against China, who has either surpassed the US or is right at our heels.
JeanieGold139@reddit
How many more weeks for that crippling to set in? 2?
PeterFechter@reddit
China has enough internal problems as it is.
FearamdCumger@reddit
"Trust me what's best for America is to blow up our allies and assist our enemies while fear mongering about a nation that isn't even a threat yet"
Individual-Cap838@reddit
Holy shit, beyond based.
zuppa_de_tortellini@reddit
If he claims Zelensky loves peace so much then why doesn’t he make peace?
Mpasserby@reddit
“Make peace” aka just capitulate to Russia entirely lol
LwySafari@reddit
honestly I would prefer that than all those deaths of average people who probably didn't want to die. ofc it's russia's fault and all, but as always the normal guys lose and rich people win. the state isn't as important as a life of even one person.
seriously, Putin and Zelensky should go 1 on 1 - or select their best fighters - and let's just resolve this by mma like adults
WrennAndEight@reddit
im not saying it isnt russias fault, but it isnt the russian government thats conscripting sons and fathers and putting them on the front lines, completely uncaring of the casualty rates because all they care about is making sure the current government doesnt lose their jobs
BigFloppaGaeming@reddit
what are you on about? this is literally, word for word, what russia has been doing throughout its entire history
WrennAndEight@reddit
i feel like you're reading something i didnt say. i never said russia wasn't conscripting, they're evil for that too. but just because your enemy is evil doesn't make killing your own people morally good suddenly
MountainSharkMan@reddit
Both are doing conscription but Ukraine was trying to leave the under 30 demographic so they could continue the countries future post war but they've had to start conscription for over 25s as they are running out of men
stealingyourundiz@reddit
Unless NATO intervenes in full force, capitulation will be the end result in any case. The only variable is the amount of casualties and destruction on both sides.
PeterFechter@reddit
Ukrainians will never be cool living under russian control ever again.
stealingyourundiz@reddit
That's what they said about the Chechens. Turns out they just needed to find a corrupt leader to put in the right place. Tbh I don't disagree with you, but what the Ukrainians want is irrelevant. As I've said, either nato joins in, in full force, or Ukraine will have to capitulate sooner or later.
PeterFechter@reddit
Capitulate what, the whole country? Even if Zelenksy agreed russia would have millions of Ukrainian civilians attacking them all the time. If would happen exactly like it happened to the US army in Afghanistan and Iraq, just insurgent attacks all the time.
SlowTortoise69@reddit
Capitulation will result in an insurgency that will make Iraq or Afghanistan look like a McDonald's play pen in comparison.
stealingyourundiz@reddit
It depends, I think what you said was more true when the war started. Now most of the Ukrainian nationalist are dead, and lots escaped abroad, understandably. But tbh it matters little, controlling the terrain is secondary for Russia, the primary objective is to install some sort of puppet in Kiev that they can control, a bit like Lukashenko in Belarus. They might end up annexing just the areas less prone to revolt (basically what they control right now) and then control the rest via puppet.
Tbh, I think it's pointless to discuss this matter in detail, whatever the case, insurgency or not, there is no good way out for the Ukrainians, which was my point.
zuppa_de_tortellini@reddit
Either that or be bled white, nobody ever said the good guys always win.
WrennAndEight@reddit
zelensky had two options: either run away or fight
he chose the third option: to force unwilling civilians to fight for him and ensure his comfy government job, no matter how many of his own people he has to kill to do it
Ottoblock@reddit
It’s so funny that “negotiate” isn’t one of the three options.
BigFloppaGaeming@reddit
"trust me bro just negotiate with the fascist dictatorship. all they want is one annexation and theyll stop for real this time trust me." sounds familiar...
Ottoblock@reddit
“Trust me bro, disappearing men into vans to continue a US proxy war is the right thing to do. Those guys should have to fight and die because I’m upset with Putin”
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
Zelenskyy wanted to negotiate but the US state department told him not to.
mrdarknezz1@reddit
He isnt the one killing Ukrainians, that’s russia
WrennAndEight@reddit
"America wasn't the one killing Americans by drafting them for 'nam, that was the heckin' Vietnamese!!!"
No. It was the American government who killed those people.
Omegastar19@reddit
Except, if we are making a Vietnam war analogy, then its actually Russia who is the US in this analogy, since they are quite literally sending their army into another country, while Ukraine is Vietnam. Yes, it sucks that Ukraine is conscripting its citizens into its army. Does it have a realistic alternative? No.
TRUEWAGNERPATRIOT@reddit
You’d think they would learn after Afghanistan, and Chechnya, and then Chechnya again.
PeterFechter@reddit
You're right he should have given his country up at the first sign of trouble. The cowards way out which you're very familiar with.
TrumpDesWillens@reddit
You don't get to send other people's children to die in a war before sending your own.
PeterFechter@reddit
Zelensky's son is 11 years old.
Omegastar19@reddit
How is 'leading an intense war effort while becoming a legitimate target to be taken out by the invading army' in any way a comfy job.
You realize if Russia defeats Ukraine, he will get blamed for it, right?
Oh what am I saying, of course you know.
Diamondsmuggler@reddit
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Black_September@reddit
I can't tell the difference between a russian and a ukrainian so I don't care.
Absolutemehguy@reddit
Israelis and palestinians too.
Peppin19@reddit
why do brownoids and SAARS seethen so much about the 0 tax dollars they pay?
askjhgdfakjsdhgf123@reddit
Why do jews and feds seethe when whites have freedom of speech?
beefsquints@reddit
Why do you have no friends?
TimNoBallsWalz@reddit
They’re silencing and shadowbanning me constantly to protect their VP Cuck Candidate
Haruhater2@reddit
Zelensky is one of the greatest leaders in the world and it is fucking abhorrent how cowardly Biden is handling the situation and fucking terrifying that the U.S. would just allow fascist garbage nation like Russia to dominate Europe.
I hope Kamala steps up and starts eradicating those Russian vermin. Even at the cost of nuclear war if necessary. There can be no peace on this earth as long as they exist.
AcceptableOwl9@reddit
Hopefully, Trump will win and actually end the war. Kamala will just cackle at them and Putin would probably go “who the fuck let this negress into my palace?”
cope-seeethe-dilate@reddit
Based
OldSheepherder4990@reddit
You forgot the /s
ianlasco@reddit
Too many ivans posing as joe these days.
Paratrooper101x@reddit
You’d be surprised how many joes are on Ivan’s side and think we’re finding the wrong country
I work with them and I’m In fucking defense manufacturing. We literally make money arming the Ukrainians but these idiots are too blinded by political rage and propaganda to see that
SoyjakvsChadRedditor@reddit
Incoming vatnik seethe. The shilling has been more than normal on 4chan lately.
Lustgartenknecht@reddit
Time to protect our democracy online!
davidov92@reddit
It's an election year in most western countries. Vatniks are active all over the internet.
Lustgartenknecht@reddit
Finally a honest response from a concerned American
Salaino0606@reddit
All I know is that Zelensky should consider shaving sometimes, and putting on a suit of some sorts. Bro looks homeless
Xartes_@reddit
It’s to project the image that he’s at war. He doesn’t have the luxury of shaving and wearing a suit! Even when he’s visiting other countries for yet more money and missiles.
kodial79@reddit
Lord Protector more like lol protector
TRUEWAGNERPATRIOT@reddit
Amerinon would rather his tax dollars be spent on a defense budget for a nation who will never fight another on even ground