Believe It or Not, 90 Percent of All Ferraris Are Still on the Road
Posted by V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 243 comments
Posted by V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 243 comments
Pitiful-Technology58@reddit
tbf ferrari is not accurate with numbers. same with the ferrari enzo, they claimed they made 400 in reality they made 446
agnaddthddude@reddit
where did you get that number?
jaelyn_123@reddit
they are good sunday cars i guess
future_luddite@reddit
Y’all are missing another reason this stat is padded. Ferrari produces twice as many cars annually now than it did in 2010, 3x more than 1990, 5x more than 1980, 12x more than 1970, etc etc. 90% of cars produced were produced in much less than the last 90% of Ferrari’s existence.
Then you add the frame being the car, plenty of Ferraris being the Ferrari of Sisyphus.
DiscountSteak@reddit
Theseus, but I fuck with the comparison.
future_luddite@reddit
You’re wiser than Dionysus. Thanks!
9009RPM@reddit
You mean in a garage collection right?
njrun@reddit
lol was gonna post the same thing. My guess is the average Ferrari that’s ’on the road’ has less than 5k miles.
mikolv2@reddit
In the UK these records are public i.e. mileage of each car is recorded once a year and it's public. For example, the average La Ferrari in the UK has 2761 miles on it. 488 average is 10346, 812 6686 miles. They are driven, and this is in a country with probably the worst climate for a Ferrari.
YouAreMentalM8@reddit
Would be curious to see the numbers in Canada.
rsta223@reddit
That's a low bar for "driven" when a decade old car has 200 miles a year.
BongRipper69696@reddit
Seems crazy to not even go through a full tank of gas in a year.
frankztn@reddit
If I owned a Ferrari, I would probably need to fill up atleast twice within those 200 miles. 😅
Maleficent_Lab_8291@reddit
That's not a low bar for a supercar, which is not by any means a daily nor should it be
mikolv2@reddit
I don't think so, owners take them to track days and car shows. What else would they do with a LaF? Take it to the supermarket. I'd bet average La Ferrari owner has 20+ cars and 10 other Ferraris. They can't drive thousands of miles a year in each one.
caterham09@reddit
There's probably individual CRV's with more miles than all the 488s ever made combined
falcon0159@reddit
I don't know about this one. Maybe on a different model. I personally know a few people with 488, and 3 of them have over 40k miles on theirs. The 488 was also decently produced # wise.
klonkish@reddit
Holy shit 40k whole miles?! Impossible
misterpickles69@reddit
They had to replace the motor twice, redo the undercarriage, replace the brakes and brake lines, overhaul the fuel system and gas tank, and replace the wiring harnesses but apart from that it runs like a champ.
cannedrex2406@reddit
This isn't 1989, Ferraris have been pretty reliable since the F430 and especially since the 458.
the-Miyamoto-Musashi@reddit
That may be, it doesn’t invalidate the specific experience you’ve just posted to.
cannedrex2406@reddit
Except I dont think it's true or that big of a deal as much as they make it out to be
It's a supercar. Expect supercar costs
AKADriver@reddit
This is why I've never had any appreciation for supercars and love it when Porsches or Corvettes kick their ass with something that you can drive anywhere. The old Italian handwave that "you can't expect it to be cheap to run or reliable, because it's a supercar ooooh" and then the Germans or the Americans just go ahead and give you a car that can do that and be reliable.
coffinfl0p@reddit
Yes the bastion of cheap repairs.. Porsche.
the-Miyamoto-Musashi@reddit
So you’re claiming that person who had friends replace their engine, didn’t? You all friends, and know the same people, seems like an argument amongst yourselves and not Reddit. If not, there no reason for me not to believe him, equally no reason for me to believe you disputing his claim as truth.
cannedrex2406@reddit
That person isn't the OP? It's a random person making a joke
So yes I will dispute it lmao. Read before you come at me lol
the-Miyamoto-Musashi@reddit
What are you talking about. You know how threads work right? Your replied to misterpickles69 not the OP.
dannyphoto@reddit
This is embarrassing bro just delete this lmao
wailll@reddit
Thats not the same person who made the original reply lol
gamefreak32@reddit
And that’s just following the owners manual regularly scheduled maintenance.
mirsgarage@reddit
I put 11k miles on mine in the last 10 months. So yeah, defo owners that do use them. You just don’t hear about it much because it isn’t the usual “hurr durr never used” thing.
candyman505@reddit
Most people just regurgitate the same nonsense they hear online when it comes to expensive cars
Targus3D@reddit
Most people are idiots.
It's funny to read all the people with Hondas and Toyotas telling us owners what we do with our cars.
candyman505@reddit
Very true lol
LogicWavelength@reddit
I’ll back this up. I know two guys with Ferrari’s and one gets rolled to an oil change each year and the other gets thrashed, so it’s truly anecdotal and I bet neither of them have ever heard of Reddit.
The_Crazy_Swede@reddit
I know a Volvo 1800s that most likely have driven further than all the 488 combined, over 3 million miles.
BryLinds@reddit
What about that Lexus that was sold on Cars and Bids?
The_Crazy_Swede@reddit
Don't know anything about it.
I'm talking about the record holding car for doing the longest distance for a none commercial vehicle, longest distance with one owner and longest distance without an engine replacement (the engine were rebuilt a couple times but the block is still the original block from the factory). It is a red 1966 Volvo 1800s driven by a legend who sadly passes away named Irv Gordon.
Look it up, I think it was 3.2 million miles
BryLinds@reddit
Good lord
The_Crazy_Swede@reddit
I found that lexus, a 2001 ls 430 with 628k miles.
Really quite impressive I must say, not many cars reach these kinds of numbers.
BryLinds@reddit
Exactly, I feel like that Lexus has more mileage than any Ferrari sold in the last decade combined
The_Crazy_Swede@reddit
It's probably at least not far off 😅
sickmemes48@reddit
I've seen some rental 458s with 150K miles on them. Surely there's a few super high mile 488s.
Targus3D@reddit
The average taxi has more miles than most CRVs will ever have.
Why don't people drive their CRVs more?
654456@reddit
247k on mine
rieusse@reddit
Nah. Those are the models (488, 458, 430, 360 etc) which people actually do drive, and that actual rich people don’t feel too pained about getting a scratch on. Heck many of them feel they’re too cheap for them and only go for the historical V12s, specials, hypercars etc.
And that goes even more for the likes of the Roma. Likely the Purosangue too
nc_nicholas@reddit
It's getting less uncommon to see more Ferraris with serious miles on them, at least the more recent models. There are a number of 458s are running around with well over 100k on their odometers.
donau_kinder@reddit
One of my neighbours had 120k on his. It's been in the shop for 6 months just fixing problem after problem and rebuilding the engine. Got rid of it earlier this year, he couldn't take it anymore
misterpickles69@reddit
Ferraris are like my ex. Here for a good time, not a long time.
zeetree137@reddit
This raises the question. What's the highest milage Ferrari? Has one ever made it to 300k?
Guac_in_my_rarri@reddit
According to a quick Google search: 250k and some more
Puzzleheaded_Bug3047@reddit
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me_ke_aloha_manuahi@reddit
Finally a meaningful comment in this thread.
Targus3D@reddit
Honestly, and unironically, the least braindead and best take posted so far
BeigeChocobo@reddit
Agree, this is the hard-hitting original content that makes reddit worthwhile.
Terrh@reddit
This, 100%
Car-face@reddit
Also more likely for a crashed or damaged one to get restored rather than scrapped.
FitzwilliamTDarcy@reddit
So, 857 miles
nickybuddy@reddit
Yeah I’d assume “on the road”, means “registered with an active title”
BloodDK22@reddit
Amen. Its too bad that such pretty looking and sounding machines spend most of their careers sitting on a marble garage floor with Ferrari flags and F1 posters on the walls. What I dont get is why those with obvious vast resources dont just drive them as much as possible even if they require a lot of work? They have the money to keep the car going. Just drive it and enjoy it. Its a CAR. They are made to be driven, period. I cant stand the car collections where great cars just sit. This is why Jay Leno is my favorite. he at least drives the damned things. :)
Own_Hat2959@reddit
As cars get more and more expensive, the most expensive ones start to take on characteristics that make them more like an art object and/or tradable collectable than a utilitarian vehicle, and they essentially are not made for any sort of long term real world usage.
As they transition towards that, their actual usefulness as a vehicle declines as they become more fussy, unreliable, high strung, fragile, expensive to operate, and overall impractical to actually use. I don't personally find them to be particularly good art either ... take the new Bugatti Tourbillon for example. The only message I get from it is one of conspicuous consumption, something to be owned by those some middle eastern oil baron of unlimited money and little taste. It sucks as art, and it sucks as a vehicle.
BloodDK22@reddit
Cant argue with any of this but it still sort of sucks. The other issue is that instead of these older cars being more affordable as they age/get used so us normal guys can buy them, they go up in price and get more unobtainable. Blah! :)
RobinsShaman@reddit
I told you to buy 10 of them and you laughed.
sashir@reddit
I adored the 308GTSi (thanks, Hotwheels) since I was very small. Always wanted one as a grail car someday, and it seemed within reach as an 'extra' car 10 years ago when I saw them in the mid-20's. The other alternative I was looking at was the late 90s Viper, which could be found for about the same price range.
I knew I needed more disposable income and I wanted to buy a house first, because the maintenance on either car was going to outstrip the purchase price on a long enough time scale (I planned to keep it for, well, ever).
Now a decade later, I have completely given up on either car. My 2005 GTO is 'good enough' and it's upkeep cost vs purchase price (12k in 2015) is a similar ratio to what the Viper / Ferrari would have been.
Feels bad, but I'll probably end up with a 2019 Vette in the next few years instead.
gtipwnz@reddit
I bet the new Bugatti doesn't suck as a vehicle
conundrum4u2@reddit
LoL! Came to say this The 'Garage' is 'the road' now...I was thinking 90% of all Ferraris are Still in the Shop!
slide2k@reddit
There is also the possibility that Ferrari makes significantly more sales than ever. If you sold 50% of all your cars in the last 20 years, this isn’t to crazy. That is mostly carbon and aluminum, which are pretty durable. At least they don’t rust away. Add that most Ferarri’s are well taken care of or better than most other cars.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
Nope.
bubzki2@reddit
Yep!
poopellar@reddit
My dyslexic ass read it as garbage collection.
bubzki2@reddit
Yep!
legoalert@reddit
I'd be surprised if 90 percent made it to a road
Sea_Perspective6891@reddit
More likely yes. Or awaiting repairs.
nyoczistaken@reddit
I can’t believe they’d leave Ferraris out on the road, they could get stolen or damaged!
Lover_zone@reddit
It speaks to the quality and durability of Ferraris, as well as the dedication of their owners to maintaining such iconic vehicles.
JonnygonePostal@reddit
Total them out are rarely driven, makes sense
rioryan@reddit
(The other 10% made it home)
F1_Geek@reddit
This was pretty good.
On another note though, your car is probably rarer than a modern V8 Ferrari lol.
PatsaRules@reddit
Why is that ?
Past-Mousse-4519@reddit
Because car is overpriced thrash.
The-Rizztoffen@reddit
Nissan is selling old car new? Hell yeah
PatsaRules@reddit
But what has to do with rarity ?
Past-Mousse-4519@reddit
Practically nobody buying them is a short answer.
F1_Geek@reddit
Nobody is buying them lol.
jrriojase@reddit
My local Nissan has one parked outside.
Which is odd, since I thought it wasn't coming to Europe.
Ok-Response-839@reddit
There are dozens of us!
DrunkRespondent@reddit
I've yet to see one and I live in Los Angeles.
Ok-Response-839@reddit
There are dozens of us!
Angels-Fall-First@reddit
I saw one for the first time a couple of weeks ago, in the PNW
epsiblivion@reddit
seen 3 or so in OC. none in LA
C-C-X-V-I@reddit
I've seen 3 in Spokane. I'm guessing luck of the draw on where they get delivered
BanEvader2024@reddit
I’ve seen 4 in 2 years and I think 3 of those 4 were the same car with slight cosmetic mods.
ycnz@reddit
Probably got better odds of seeing a Bugatti TBH.
vkozyrev@reddit
This is the funniest thing I’ve read all day
Looptydude@reddit
It's an old joke that came from a Chevy truck slogan that 50% of all Chevy trucks are still on the road.
Megatron_McLargeHuge@reddit
Is that the source? I always heard this as a Harley joke.
Rattle_Can@reddit
ive heard it as a ford joke also (told by toyota tacoma guys lol)
Lugnuts088@reddit
LIKE A ROCK (different commercial but came to mind.)
BZJGTO@reddit
Reminds me of the joke, if you want to go anywhere, get a Land Rover. If you want to make it back, get a Land Cruiser.
FitzwilliamTDarcy@reddit
To the farm in upstate NY
RedTalon6@reddit
You don’t understand, he doesn’t drive it, he just rubs it with a diaper all day.
nannerpuss74@reddit
whats the percentage that has over 100k miles and only ever had to be serviced rather than repaired?
usaguy480@reddit
I have an accord 1992 with 380k miles with original engine runs perfectly 👌
randomcanyon@reddit
If molding and gathering dust in a Saudi Princes underground bunker is considered "on the road" they are correct. /mild humor.
bubzki2@reddit
A 30,000 mile Ferrari is considered high miles. That’s the whole story.
rockdude625@reddit
I took my 308 up to 200,000 and my buddy has a 458 with 120,000 on it, idk why people hate miles on them
Yhrite@reddit
I would guess because high mileage exotics are for the most part unchartered territory and owners are afraid of high repair costs or full on engine failure.
aprtur@reddit
I'd lean more into it being the latter, if we're talking about exotics with any sort of age on them. While it's not the majority by a long shot, you do see high mileage exotics out there fairly normally - but it takes a serious bankroll to do it. As the old says goes, the cheapest luxury/exotic is a cheap one.
Also, sorry, but pedant in me has to mention - it's uncharted, as in a map. Chartering is something you do with a boat, a bus, or an airplane.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
No. It is because the owners tend to have multiple cars. I have three toys and a daily right now. Only so many good days to drive.
Ferrari's also aren't something you take to places you don't know, crowded parking lots, or use in bad weather.
jawnlerdoe@reddit
Your second sentence highlights it more than anything. I couldn’t imagine owning a vehicle I wasn’t willing to drive somewhere “I don’t know”.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
That was going from my 18 Abarth Spyder to my Viper. You go from something that while you want to maintain is at the end of the day expendable. It was a fun car, but it was a depreciating asset. It was going to get dings. It happens with anything you use, but once you get to a car you want to keep or isn't going down in value you will want to fix chips/dings.
The car is appreciating in value. It isn't a daily. It isn't something you are going to upgrade in a few years. It has parts on it that are ludicrously expensive (5k headlights until repo lenses got released a couple months ago. It has parts that are difficult to track down. It also can have quirks. My viper wouldn't make it into my driveway without scraping. Stock height. My driveway is not some scary steep thing. I had to pour a cement ramp, twice. It still scrapes unless I exit at an angle, from a certain side of the drive.
Too many people on here haven't any seat time in a car like that. They also think that anyone who can afford a nice car can afford to throw money at it when it breaks. They somehow forget that people passionate about cars might be spending an inordinate amount of their disposable income on their passion. That they have to budget maintenance and that spending thousands to repair dents and paint might not be in the budget.
jawnlerdoe@reddit
That totally makes sense, I simply wouldn’t buy a car that I couldn’t use whenever I wanted.
I don’t drive my Miata when there’s salt on the roads, and I care about it and fix its dings and chips, but I don’t care much when they happen because I use it a lot. I understand the aspect of wanting to care for and maintain the value of vehicle. For this reason, I bought an ND rather than an S2000 - I didn’t want to worry about its price as an asset, the cost of finding 20 year old niche parts, or the worry of the west and tear that comes from use. I just wanted a fun car I could use and not worry about, and the Miata is exactly that car.
I think for me personally, I wouldn’t buy a vehicle I couldn’t afford continued use. But that’s me, and that’s why I couldn’t imagine not driving a vehicle somewhere “I don’t know”. I can imagine why other people wouldn’t, but I would never put myself in that position.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Your Miata is 6-7 years old at this point. It is still in production so parts are readily available. If the goal is to put pure miles on it then it is an excellent choice. It is a fun car. Parts will be available for a long time.
My Viper is 25. The Ferrari is almost 40. The hardest to get parts for and the least reliable is the morgan despite being the newest. If I break the engine its going to be 20k and I will have to ship it off. Not because it is exotic, but because very few places have parts and I can't just order them. If I blow a headgasket I could wait years for one to come up for sale.
Thing is, it is a unique experience. It is fun at speeds a miata isn't. It is fun going the speed limit. If It breaks I will have to save for more than a year if I cannot repair it myself. Spoiler, it breaks a lot. I get about 1k miles at most between issues. I do it because I love the car enough to take the risk. It brings me joy that something else wouldn't match.
jawnlerdoe@reddit
I prioritized reliability, ease of use, and cost of maintenance, and it shows in my vehicle’s. Also, I frankly was an inexperienced driver when I bought the Miata, which is why I bought a Miata lol.
I don’t think I would enjoy owning a car that was so temperamental. At this stage in my life I could probably afford a Gen 2 viper, or Mondial, but the lingering thoughts of fixing things hanging over my head would ruin the enjoyment for me personally. Just like anything though, different people enjoy different things.
Interesting you say it’s fun at speeds the Miata isn’t. The Miata is fun at any speed (it can achieve anyway lol).
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
In a miata you don't take a left turn from a stop light and risk hitting the curb without squealing the tires. The morgan can achieve its max torque faster and without chirping the tires you can risk clipping the curb because it understeers.
It is a far more exciting drive. It also requires a lot more thought where a miata is much more forgiving.
rockdude625@reddit
Speak for yourself, I drive my 308 and my R8 rain or shine, hot or snow
lostboyz@reddit
I'm pretty sure their point is with more cars means fewer miles on each car and Ferrari's tend to be for special occasions. Your anecdote doesn't disagree with any of that.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
Most people don't own more than 2 cars. Usually either 2 dailys or 1 daily and one weekend car.
When you start to own 3, 4, 5+ cars it becomes a lot harder to put miles on all of them. You can't drive 3 cars at the same time.
I have 2 regular daily SUVs, 2 summer dailys, 1 summer weekend car.
Of course the Ferrari will have less miles. 58k km. Maserati second at over 170k km.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
That also leaves out that it gets parked for winter. It isn't a Ferrari thing either. r/Cars forgets there are tons of low mile sportscars out there that only get drive half the year.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
Yes. Not everyone loves in California.
We can get 30cm of snow in a few hours some days. I wouldn't even be able to open the door.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Doesn't even need to be snow. High performance summer tires are not great in 70 degree temps. I don't drive my viper below 75 because it just spins the tires. You get spring/fall days where it is almost warm enough or the temperature changes and you go out for a drive and suddenly the back end wants to pull a 180.
Beauty of multiple cars though is if the sun is out there is something else to take.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
You have to provide simple visuals for these people.
They don't understand why an expensive, luxury, performance, supercar, doesn't have the same miles as their Corolla or RAV4.
They don't understand tire temperature ratings.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Careful now or you will get labeled as an elitist.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
It's an unfortunate sad time when common sense is rare though.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Ok? Who cares if it is hot? Hot isn't going to do long term damage to the car. Snow here means salt. I drive my morgan in 45+ degree weather, but it has to be clear.
I don't drive mine in the rain. What's the point? I can't hammer on it. I am at higher risk for some idiot hitting me. The headlights are terrible being sealed beams. The Mondial and your 308 don't have sealed connectors in the doors. Rain is speeding up corrosion in all those plugs.
I have driven the viper on multiple occasions in the rain when my daily was in the shop. It sucks. Oh boy, 450 hp and you have to drive like a grandma or it will spin out. According to rockdude625 it is the sign of a real man. Wasting a nice car in crap weather for no other reason that going for fake points on the internet.
rockdude625@reddit
IMO, if you can’t afford to buy and maintain for the price of when they were new, then one should stay away and get something cheaper.
Crown Vics and Miata’s can be just as much, if not more fun than Ferraris and lambos
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Yes and no.
Had a 13 club spec and an 18 abarth. Compared to my ancient and not 100 percent mondial, it is no comparison.
The Ferrari is more fun. Gated 5 speed, flat plane v8 with a near 8k redline, manual steering rack. It is an occasion to drive. It makes an amazing noise.
Miata communicates the tires very well. The engines are not exciting . The transmissions were bleh. My morgan has a five speed miata trans which is a joy. Faster to shift than the Ferrari but the gates five speed is more enjoyable.
bse50@reddit
Jumping in the Ferrari after driving the miata is a chore, in my case. The GTB drives like a 70s car, with an uncomfortable seating position and overall poor handling compared to the NA. Driving it fast is still kind of fun but it lacks the great front end of the little underdog. I treat it as a fast, well handling tourer whereas the Miata feels and drives like a toy should.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Having gone from Miata/Fiata to the Viper to the ferrari I don't find it to be a chore. That Italian seating position is weird, but not uncomfortable. NC seats suck. They kill your back after 30 minutes due to lumbar support. I was 25 when I bought that NC and could run marathons at the time. It still killed my back after half an hour. ND/Fiata aren't bad. Handling is all relative. The Mondial does not handle as well as a Miata, but having experienced more cars now, it does not matter.
A Miata is fun because it is so underpowered and the handling is so communicative you can push it on public roads. The Ferrari is slow by modern standards, but makes a great noise and you can push it on public roads without getting into trouble. No one is recording lap times driving around town. The question just becomes is the experience enjoyable.
The one area that really sucked on either Miata was long distance highway driving. The twitchy steering was tiring and the noise was deafening. My wife does not look fondly on when we drove out of state to get my Fiata. The drive back would have been better had we been wearing headphones.
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
I did see that Regular Car Reviews guy said get the Town Car, not the Crown Vic. Less chance of it being beat on but same mechanicals.
SCPendolino@reddit
You’re right about the first part of your comment, but for the record, Ferrari to Miata is an apples to oranges comparison.
I mean, yes, you can hustle a Miata or a Crown Vic in ways that you would never dream of with a nicer car. Plus then there’s the whole headache of leaving nice cars unattended, service availability, etc.
On the other hand, you sit in something properly special, and it is an occasion. Nothing else feels like driving a Ferrari, even if it’s not the fastest or the nicest one around. I can only dream of what it would feel like to drive my own Ferrari, and I intend to find out in due time.
No Miata or Crown Vic, as good as they are in their own right, is going to feel quite the same.
Conch-Republic@reddit
It's probably just because they have other cars they drive daily. It can get difficult to stack mileage when you're only taking it out on weekends.
Thee_Sinner@reddit
I couldn’t afford the prospective repairs on a FD, so I got a Miata; maybe they should have got a corvette instead.
NuclearReactions@reddit
That's because you love cars. Most people who buy ferraris just love money.
ShiftBMDub@reddit
because to most of these guys the car is just a collectable to be sold later for a higher price.
R_V_Z@reddit
I've heard that the only way to keep a 308 reliable is to make sure it sees miles.
egowritingcheques@reddit
Because a large number of Ferrari owners don't actually like driving, they just like owning a Ferrari.
uber_neutrino@reddit
I bet we know the same dude with the white 458.
Pushing 20k on my 812.
ArchiStanton@reddit
Woah you took your 308 up to 200,000?? I’ve only been like 145
rockdude625@reddit
lol, us spec 308s will really only do 130 max when stock, they were at the height of the smog era
lowstrife@reddit
Because people who buy new Ferrari's don't own them to drive them.
rockdude625@reddit
The true car guys who have enough money to replace them when they wear out, will drive the piss out of them. Owners that are afraid of something happening to them either can’t afford to replace them, or have a truly priceless 1/1 car
somedude456@reddit
My hero!
bubzki2@reddit
My 355 is awaiting engine out. Next year I’ll let er rip.
noeku1t@reddit
In USA probably, in Norway most have done more than 30.000 miles. Seen a few FFs and GT4CL's with 70.000+ miles too.
bubzki2@reddit
Can you produce data/evidence of that? I'm mostly going by what I saw when shopping for my F355. Bought a high mile car at about 30-35k. That was rare to see one this high.
noeku1t@reddit
Try this link, maybe it works (sorted mileage high to low) https://www.finn.no/car/used/search.html?make=0.2999&sort=MILEAGE_DESC
noeku1t@reddit
Right now there are 111 Ferraris for sale in Norway. 53 have done over 30 miles.
I will write in km what they have done, just a few examples;
FF, 127.000 FF, 126.000 FF, 121.000 California, 112.000 308 GTB, 107.600 360, 99.700 km 458, 98.000 km 458, 89.000 km 308 GTS, 87.800 360, 87.500 360, 87.000 F430, 83.000
Even have a Scud with 60k km Also a 355 with 57k km
Hence, I would consider 30.000 miles as low mileage.
vishysuave@reddit
That sounds kinda lame
Vantage_007@reddit
Truth. My 550 Maranello has nearly 45,000 miles on it and is effectively “worthless” for the average Ferrari buyer.
_Banned_User@reddit
Almost 80k on my 308. I assume it will for whatever scrap value is by the time I sell it at 100k miles.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Depends on age, but high mileage goes for any collector car. 30k in a viper is a driver's car even if it is a 30+ year old one.
My 101k ferrari is high mileage but its not the highest.
SexyTimeSamet@reddit
Well...they are ferrari's. Not like one would sell it to the local pull your part when they decide to part with it. Even the crappyiest ferraris are very desirable and worthy of being restored. Unless they are in some kind of catastrophe or disastrous wreck, a ferrari will be back on the road.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Yup. Even the mondial is a 100k+ dollar car in other parts of the world for a average example. Here only a museum quality one will get that. Not uncommon to see full restorations on mondials now.
Over the summer a YouTuber put out feelers for a mondial to engine swap. Talked about mine but i got the feeling he was dreaming. They have a fair chunk of value as a parts car.
durrtyurr@reddit
Tell my brother, I just coughed up over 20k for his major on a Mondial 3.2.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Then you got ripped off or had a lot more than just a major. A 3.2 major is done through the passenger side rear wheel well. It is not a 348/Mondial T/Testarossa engine out affair. Last I looked at my QV it was a grand for just the parts. Labor for a Ferrari might be pricey, but its not 19k a day.
durrtyurr@reddit
He's getting new valves and valve seats, that's over 10k right there.
Targus3D@reddit
An engine rebuild is not a major service.
durrtyurr@reddit
You've never owned a Ferrari before, have you? Owning one is like throwing money into a trashcan.
Targus3D@reddit
You can have the same response I made for another idiot posting shit.
Not worth my time to take new pictures with your username.
https://imgur.com/a/MywJZcP
https://old.reddit.com/r/povertyfinancecanada/comments/1b2lss4/first_time_being_super_low_income_as_a_family_are/ksrsut4/
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
That isn't a major.
TheRtHonLaqueesha@reddit
Like airplanes. Many private planes are around 50 years old.
peepers_meepers@reddit
Yeah well no shit. If you combine the odometers of all the Ferraris in the world you'll get like 10 miles.
No_Summer_8717@reddit
If i was an instant billionaire, I would drive the crap out of it. Otherwise being to afford 1 would last me the rest of my life as a weekend/special occasion/ garage queen. That's not a huge surprise. But so would my toyota 4runner because I would rarely drive it due to the vast collection I would have.
dinkygoat@reddit
If I was an instant billionaire, I'd buy the RR Spectre. I need my luxury cocoon because I can't be bothered to associate with or even by looked at by the poors. But do it in an environmentally friendly way.
chris8535@reddit
You find quite quickly the RRs are limited destination vehicles unless you have a driver.
GimmeChickenBlasters@reddit
Which one do/did you have?
One_Opening_8000@reddit
Decades ago, Consumer Reports did an analysis of why Mercedes Benz cars seemed to last longer than American brands. Outside of MB's diesels, which had fewer moving parts so lasted longer, the only thing they could come up with was that people tended to take better care of cars they spent a lot of money to buy.
BEEPBOPIAMAROBOT@reddit
"on the road" is a polite way of saying "in garages and rarely driven"
ban-please@reddit
Garage queens don't count as "on the road" in my book. They're show cars. Basically an art piece.
newtonreddits@reddit
Mercedes: 100% of CLK GTRs are still on the road today. Our most reliable model!
HotRodReggie@reddit
My dream after winning the lottery is to buy a Berlinetta and drive the absolute shit out of it. New pair of tires every month.
Crispybannanasw@reddit
I think it means they are broken on the side of the street or on top of a tow tuck.
Snoo-73243@reddit
lol they are mostly sitting in someone's.
skygt3rsr@reddit
In drivable condition in a garage
Ok-Status7867@reddit
To the detriment of their owners pocketbook
ChurryRedBaron@reddit
I know some people like to name their garage, but “The Road” sure is an odd name.
Scazitar@reddit
If dodge neons were worth a million dollars 90% of them would still be on the road.
I always think stats like these are weird because at a certain point of value their is no problem you can run into where it's not worth repairing. You blow the engine it's not like you're sending your ferrari to the junkyard. Even a major accident might be worth a full rebuild if it's collectible enough.
It just doesn't really say much except that the car is worth a ton of money.
SFWarriorsfan@reddit
I highly doubt it. More than Porsche? No.
Past-Mousse-4519@reddit
How many worthless and wrecked 914, 944, Cayennes, Macans and Panameras exist, what nobody cares about? Even the worst Ferrari on the secondary market cost some money and majority of the models cost pretty big money.
rynoweiss@reddit
What percent are decomposing in the Sultan of Brunei's collection.
sjgbfs@reddit
"brought to you by the marketing launch of Ferrari official preowned". Useless.
Ambitious_Praline643@reddit
No they’re not. They’re in garages.
Angry_Robot@reddit
According to Ferrari, a known lying liar who tells lies.
Millicent_Bystandard@reddit
Exactly. They cheat in reviews by tuning cars and they lie with production numbers.
I'm sure there are a lot of Ferraris on the road because someone somewhere will still buy the crappiest Mondial, so its closer to Porsches claim of 70%.
lumpialarry@reddit
Is that for just 911s or does that include the 1,000,000 depreciation mobiles Porsche Cayenne that fell into the buy-pay-here lot phase of ownership after the third owner.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Ouch
Millicent_Bystandard@reddit
I'm so sorry .I'm sure you have a really cool Mondial :)
I was thinking something rusted out and firing on half its cylinders.
Specialist-Size9368@reddit
Mine has donkey for shrek for the center caps. I take my Ferrari super seriously.
Puzzleheaded_Bug3047@reddit
5h. Thbh65 tg7
Desutor@reddit
Makes sense. The other 10% must be Californias or Portofinos
explosiv_skull@reddit
I totally believe it. People who can afford a Ferrari can afford to maintain it impeccably, and there's reason to maintain them as there's a good chance one day they will be collector's items worth even more than the owner payed.
StayStrong888@reddit
Parked in a climate controlled garage, they can last forever.
teaspoonasaurous@reddit
sustainable!
PatsaRules@reddit
Well Aston Martin stated a couple of months back , that her cars at a percentage of 80% are out on circulation and moving! You don’t know what to believe and verify these claims !
SinnerProbGoingToSin@reddit
Rip Eddie griffin’s Enzo.
Lord_Vaguery@reddit
The rest caught on fire and burned to the ground.
Megatron_McLargeHuge@reddit
Someone still bought the frame for the VIN.
mikkowus@reddit
Still in the garage**
caller-number-four@reddit
Well, except for that one. Where too many miles were put on it and they jacked up the rear end to "Drive it in reverse" and ended up getting yeet'ed out the back window of the garage.
settlementfires@reddit
The other 10 percent actually made it home from the dealership!
itsthatarchiguy@reddit
...and has less than 500 miles on the clock.
Nonameswhere@reddit
Not surprising at all that 90% of them are still on the road. They are expensive, they are collectibles, they are revered, they increase in value hence they are not just abandoned and thrown away like basic transportation. The only ones not on the road were likely destroyed and damaged beyond repair. If they can be repaired they usually are.
Skobiak@reddit
Its believable. You don't buy a Ferrari to commute or as a grocery getter. They're usually well looked after and spend most of their lives indoors (certain youtube morons excluded). At the minimum they hold their value, and in a lot of cases they appreciate in value.
Viend@reddit
Sounds like youtube legends if they park their Ferraris outside
_Banned_User@reddit
And if there is a fender bender that causes $20k of damage it will be fixed. That amount of damage will total 95% of cars on the road.
tablepennywad@reddit
This is probably blue zone fallacy. On the road simply means no documentation of the car being crushed.
Subiemobiler@reddit
I know they're still on the road. Every now and then I pullover and sweep the red plastic bits into the ditch
ShiftBMDub@reddit
err 90% of Ferraris are in some garage surrounded by other Ferraris of a grocery store magnate.
ravengenesis1@reddit
Garage queens ain’t road going vehicles.
Total amount of miles of all Ferraris don’t clock close to a hard driven Toyota.
Zlautern@reddit
Ya, how many of them are being actually driven? When some of the wind shields are 20-30k to replace because there are so few available and nobody makes new ones, you can see why people don't drive their collections.
Jpaynesae1991@reddit
The newest generations will also be around for a long time since they all had free service for the first 7 years
cherydad33@reddit
I have almost 50k on my f355. I know it’s cray it still works and hasn’t blow up! Drive them!!
desirox@reddit
That’s pretty staggering even when factoring in most are garaged most of their lives
Boxadorables@reddit
Wonder what the average milage is
furrynoy96@reddit
I don't believe you
solo118@reddit
You have to imagine they get used very little, and their owners are not like hellcat or mustang owners
Quake_Guy@reddit
There was at least a decade where many used Ferraris cost substantially less than a new vette so maybe little surprised it's 90%. Esp given Ferrari production is so heavily weighted 80s and on.
I've read that up to 1972, Ferrari had only made 10k cars. I think they made more than that in just Testarossas in the 80s.
HegemonNYC@reddit
I wonder if the median Ferrari breaks 10k miles on the odometer, lifetime?
RevvCats@reddit
I’d love to see a histogram of the mileage on all those cars
danny_ish@reddit
My childhood neighbor has a 360 they bought new. It has over 160k on it last i talked to them, about 3 years ago when I was home for the holidays. Parked at the end of their driveway, left out in the elements 24/7. They have the wife’s daily and his weekend toy (a cobra replica) in the garage. Suburban home in a high COL, 2 car attached.
Another childhood neighbor has a 360 with something like 12k miles on it. Both are 20+ years old, i think 99 and 02? I was born in 1995 and both have been there as long as I can remember
falcon0159@reddit
That's awesome. I wish I could leave nice cars outside...But I live in a area where it snows, and it will ruin the car over many years - so I feel bad leaving anything low mileage or nice outside.
danny_ish@reddit
We are in NY, it snows
falcon0159@reddit
Never mind, I'm in NJ hahaha! My friend's grandfather left his 308 outside for about 6 years without moving it. There were many parts underneath and the in the rear that started rusting unfortunately.
RevvCats@reddit
More power to them, I have a feeling though they’d be outliers on that graph
danny_ish@reddit
The high or the low mileage neighbor?
ShadowInTheAttic@reddit
I mean, technically true... Just like 99.99% of every human ever born on Earth remains on Earth, except for those that died in space and escaped orbit.
DrZedex@reddit
And all those Ferraris have a combined total odometer less than the 3 cars currently sitting in my garage.
Parking-Historian360@reddit
If you can afford a $200,000+ car you can probably afford to replace anything wrong with it. It's not like a teacher who has to throw away their 2012 Honda Accord because the transmission exploded and the replacement cost more than the car.
falcon0159@reddit
My Cali T is CPO, but has an unlimited mileage warranty...Already put 4k miles on it in 4 months. I have no idea how much an engine is - but considering an engine in my Audi runs $30k from a dealer, I would imagine at least $75k. However they are pretty reliable engines and there are definitely examples with over 100k miles.
foolear@reddit
“Aw shucks, I knew this car wasn’t meant to be driven.” - Italian owners
carsnbikesnstuff@reddit
Can’t wreck a car you don’t drive.
Hyperius999@reddit
If I get a Ferrari, spending more on car than house, I'll daily drive it until it dies. Depreciation be damned!
_mogulman31@reddit
That's the most believable statistic I have ever heard.
The truth about all those cars is their per mile cost of ownership is simply an egregious amount. It takes a lot more than oil changes, tires, and breaks, and sporadic repairs to keep a or semi-super or super car on the road, and you have no real choice but to pay good mechanics and by OEM parts. The milage at which it becomes cheaper to buy another car than jeep one on the road decreases with the cost of the car. Drive a car and it depreciates; buy a really nice low volume car garage it, and it becomes an asset.
sdood@reddit
110% of Enzos are still on the road!
redneckcommando@reddit
Yeah, what's the collective miles on them?
Recent-Heron-8690@reddit
"road" you mean locked in a garage
PiggypPiggyyYaya@reddit
The garage Queens.
Spicywolff@reddit
If “On the road”, means being moved around in an enclosed trailer to the next tax shelter/garage. Then yes still on road.
BbyJ39@reddit
My dad’s F355 broke down just from being driven in LA traffic and spent the rest of its life in perpetual repair in the shop.
Wiggles69@reddit
Oh, really? I thought most of them would be up on blocks in someone's front yard rusting away /s
Friar_Fuck_@reddit
Who wouldn’t believe this?
03zx3@reddit
Pretty easy to keep a car going if you never use it.