Axios: Congress gripped by fears of post-election violence
Posted by marvelrox@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 468 comments
Posted by marvelrox@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 468 comments
SensingBensing@reddit
Going by betting odds(I’m a degenerate). They show DT as a strong favourite. I’ll go with that. As such, there’ll be practically no violence. Media, news and social, will be making it out to be the end of days, meanwhile boring old life will continue on for practically everyone
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
So your first part was correct. The no violence part is so far correct. Media and news and social part correct.
So I'm really hoping that your last phrase is also correct, I like my same old boring life.
I don't want my brown neighbors accidentally pulled into some kind of dragnet.
I don't want my son not to be able to marry his partner if he wants to.
I don't want a marriage of his to only be recognized in certain states.
I don't want dissolution of the EPA to increase toxicity of lakes and dirt and etc.
I don't want vaccines to be harder to get in any way whatsoever.
So I'm crossing my fingers that you're some kind of fortune teller.
idunnoiforget@reddit
some whales bet 13 million or 30 million on trump 2 weeks ago effectively skewing the odds in Trump's favor. The betting odds are absolutely not a reliable indicator.
SensingBensing@reddit
Turns out they were 100% right. Just like I thought
SensingBensing@reddit
As of today there’s been billions of dollars in wagers on the outcome of this election. A couple multi million dollar bets alone would not be enough to give trump the large advantage he has today( 20 + percent) across multiple betting platforms.
Regardless, it’s just my opinion. Might mean fuck all. But if I was to bet on the outcome, I’d put it all on red.
Barragin@reddit
Betting odds are determined by how many degenerates are placing bets.
What were the betting odds in 2022 on the red wave?
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
I promise you, you’re still gonna have to go to work
twohammocks@reddit
This is just fearmongering to deter people from going out and exercising their right to vote. Don't let this prevent you from voting.
Jerrell123@reddit
*POST*-election violence. Violence on election day itself is relatively rare; threatening voters or poll workers is a felony offense, even if local cops don’t take it seriously federal officials do.
Inv3rted_Moment@reddit
There was a man in Florida threatening Harris voters with a machete the other day. That would absolutely discourage people from voting.
Busy_Professional824@reddit
Machete vs pew pew things. No one is scared of some blonde femboy with braces.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Femboy? Where?
Male clothes, male toxicity, carries a weapon, masculine face, deep voice, threatens others ...
I didn't see a femboy.
Are you maybe fantasizing?
Busy_Professional824@reddit
That's a masculine face?
2quickdraw@reddit
FENTANYL, not FEM.
Reconsct@reddit
Nah, fuck that noise. I have my own machete, and I think honestly; 2 folks swinging machetes at each other in Florida is basically considered a duel anyhow.
dood9123@reddit
duel or thursday
DisastrousHyena3534@reddit
This guy Floridas
Healthy_Monitor3847@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
bbrosen@reddit
probably state law
Ok_Feeling_3174@reddit
As is tradition
Legal-Paper-9817@reddit
Idiots. Lucky they didn't get shot.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Robert Evan’s has joined the chat
pandemicpunk@reddit
that's just florida man, regular thing. used to it.
Inv3rted_Moment@reddit
The fact that being threatened with violence for exercising ones democratic rights shows how American democracy is failing.
Creative_Beginning58@reddit
Yeah, I agree "relatively rare" is a bad assessment. It happens every election. They are, however, relatively minor. The laws are there because it is an obvious issue, and the laws work pretty well except for the dumbest individuals.
When we start seeing it not be enforced, that's a clear sign we're fucked.
twohammocks@reddit
You do realize that posting articles about post election violence might make grampa a little fearful/hesitant to going to the voting booth, right? Articles like this are irresponsible in election season and could even be construed as inciting violence to happen. Don't go planting this stuff in peoples minds.
65CM@reddit
Why? Are you asserting the elderly can't comprehend "post"?
Plaguedoctorsrevenge@reddit
Well, if the results of the election are likely to spark violence, it's not unreasonable to worry that violence might occur at the actual polls in order to determine a certain outcome of the election
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
We’ve already seen violence at ballot drop off boxes. It’s not unreasonable to expect more voter intimidation on Election Day.
Down_vote_david@reddit
care to share the examples? I'm on the east coast, and its been quiet here.
Pantsy-@reddit
Ballot boxes and mailboxes in Democratic heavy areas are being set on fire on the West coast. Most recent
Legal-Paper-9817@reddit
So when Demcrats burned our cities it was "just property" but now arson is violence?
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
I mean, arson is violence by definition my dude.
Legal-Paper-9817@reddit
Not according to the Democrats and the .mainstream media. CNN had a reporter broadcasting live in front of a burning target store in Minneapolis calling the demonstration "mostly peaceful".
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
WTF are you talking about? Who TF ever brought up the 2020 protests? Get a life dude.
Tao_Te_Gringo@reddit
Democrats didn’t try to overthrow the Cobstitution and install a dictator.
Legal-Paper-9817@reddit
Sure they did. They harassed him with bullshit impeachment charges. The Steele dossier was bought and paid for by the DNC. Brennan told Obama to his face that Russia gate was a fabrication by the Clinton Team and the Democrats still pursued it just to hamstring Trump.
The second impeachment was initiated on unsubstantiated rumors that Bolton's unpublished book said Trump attempted a quid pro quo with the Ukranians trading military aid for information on the bribing of Joe Biden via Hunters Burisma job.
Turns out Bolton never said such a thing. The whole damn thing was a sham.
What stands out is that Biden WAS Bribed by the Ukranians. They bought access to him via his Burisma board salary.
Hunters laptop was filled with documentation on nefarious acts he committed using access to his father. Crooked Democrats rounded up over fifty crooked intelligence folk who declared the laptop was not real.
Of course the laptop WAS real and all the crooked Biden shit WAS true. Of course this came out AFTER the election.
The laptop hoax cost him the election and no one was ever held to account for the election interference because they are all Democrats and the rules just don't apply to them.
Tao_Te_Gringo@reddit
Your copy pasta propaganda coping is downright pitiful. According to his own generals, Rapey the Treason Clown is a domestic enemy of the constitution that I swore an oath to defend.
See you at the voting booth.
starmen999@reddit
Sure, if you're burning literal election ballots to get a fascist into office
spinbutton@reddit
I'm sorry, which cities?
Ordinary-Flamingo-95@reddit
They were set on fire, with free Gaza written in the devices, it was leftist lunatics acting out for publicity
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
Source?
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
Thanks for posting that.
I am both glad and horrified to learn that someone had the foresight to ensure ballot drops had fire suppressants in them.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
yeah "violence", they'd never think that one up on their own.
🙄????
twohammocks@reddit
people need to be reassured and know that its safe to vote - whoever they vote for.
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
Huge reach to say this is inciting violence.
DisastrousExchange90@reddit
Well hopefully that stays the rarity. Because the FBI thwarted two terror attacks this month that were planned at the Capitol on Election Day. Both with ties to ISIS. If they thwarted at least two, how many more are there being planned?
jadejadenwow@reddit
Voting is for sheep, who think freemasonic trump or freemasonic Kamala is gonna save them Hegalien diaclectic Illusion of choice Make the sheep think they have a say
Haikuunamatata@reddit
Vote 3rd party
jadejadenwow@reddit
Don’t vote period , the government love when you vote to keep the illusion going
outhighking@reddit
Post means after not to mention people can early vote or mail in.
aipixelpioneer@reddit
I don’t think it’s stopping anyone from voting.. but I did get cheaper flights than I usually would this time of year so that’s a bonus.
lucifv84@reddit
But I work at home, and my boss is my toddler and my wife. Cant I stay at home and watch fox news? jk jk I dont watch fox news.
Kvenner001@reddit
$29 trillion GDP and a government bought by big business absolutely guarantees this.
Revolution on your own time, Karen needs her Frappe and Amazon order filled.
Tac0321@reddit
Actually your comment reminded me of something I read on here recently from someone who said their wife works for an electoral office. They said that their wife had been instructed not to come into work the day after the election due to safety fears. So maybe they will work from home that day?
Sodoheading@reddit
Now if only Congress would actually work
haterake@reddit
Revolution on your own time. Get to work.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
"Also, we need you to stay late"
IWantAStorm@reddit
"The market crashed, the company is insolvent, we are closed effectively at 5 for good."
"We'll need you all to stay till about 7 to help us move out."
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
Presumably the location represents either a real-estate asset (effectively worthless, but not truly worthless) or a rental liability (responsibility for damages), so yeah. They're gonna lock you in to look after the place.
ID-10T_Error@reddit
ID-10T_Error@reddit
floopadoop37@reddit
Wait, me too?
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
You're more likely to be kept at work then allowed to stay home.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Jokes on you I work from home
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
"the van is coming"
IFartOnCats4Fun@reddit
So you’re trapped
thebraxton@reddit
There won't be any violence, at least not a meaningful amount.
Trump supporters think Biden stole the election and they didn't do anything about it. Think about that, if they won't even stand up when their country's presidency is stolen they probably won't ever do anything.
cyranothe2nd@reddit
Not me. I don't have a job 😔
bunnyboymaid@reddit
I
Malcolm_Morin@reddit
Pretty much what happens in Civil War. Country in conflict, and there's people still going to work.
Sororita@reddit
Nah, i took the 6th off
drdewm@reddit
Essential again!? Damn it!
ParkerRoyce@reddit
It will be illegal to not be working in the near future and if you protest or strike they make you come back by super soaker point.
Unfair_Bunch519@reddit
Yup, Doesn’t matter how bloody the civil war gets. You will still have to pay rent and go shopping.
anonworkaccount69420@reddit
yep. the confederate dollar becoming meaningless for everyone in the south trying to buy food is a large part of why the CSA lost the first civil war
WangMangDonkeyChain@reddit
oh no! life is happening! better go hide in your bunkers and crack open that 100lb bag of costco beans….
Infinite-Feed2505@reddit
Congress is only gripped by corporate donors, Super PACs, and insider stock trading. Everything else is a simple distraction from making tons of money.
Dense-Comfort6055@reddit
Don’t fear. Plan.
kanelolo@reddit
Ready the palace guards. Let's not be unprepared this time.
TinyDogsRule@reddit
If only Congress had the power to head this whole disaster off years ago.....with impeachment or consequences for a coup. Oh well, who could have possibly seen this coming?
conservatore@reddit
lol odd of you to automatically assume the violence is coming from the right
TheOddPelican@reddit
It's Reddit so don't expect common sense to prevail. Leftwing cancer pervades every sub.
StoneAgePrincess@reddit
To give ye the benefit of the doubt, there has been no attempt to storm the Capitol by the blue team just yet. Nor have blue voters thought it was a grand idea to get into bed with an ex-KGB agent and president-for-life who is also commanding thousands of cyberattacks on western infrastructure and economy every bloody second. But let’s say the blues will also storm the Capitol when Trump gets into power, I guess you’ll be ok with that- you know, equal opportunities and all?
Signal-Chapter3904@reddit
Right, there was only a summer of Burn Loot Murder from the left.
Slow_Supermarket5590@reddit
Great story. Zero murders except for two protestors who were killed, over 90 percent of the protests had zero arrests, and the biggest example of arson was done by right wing Boogaloo boys in Minnesota. And Fox made up the 200 billion nonsense. What was your non existent point again?
Signal-Chapter3904@reddit
Ah, youre one of the "fiery but mostly peaceful" types.
Do yourself a favor. Don't smoke crack for your entire life, it's bad for your health.
ballskindrapes@reddit
Facts don't care about your feelings.
He is objectively right.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
A season of riots following George Floyd's death: 2 billion
A day of rioting because of sore losers: 2 billion
Fantastic-Limit-7766@reddit
People died but it's not the same as committing violence because you believe in a conman in a very cultist kind of way. Also many of the people were not even BLM just randos
Slow_Supermarket5590@reddit
I'm guessing you would understand that best. Go back to Infowars with the 🗑 you call information.
blizmd@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_during_the_George_Floyd_protests
19 deaths and this is Wikipedia, summarizing an article from Forbes
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
"the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 following the murder of George Floyd cost insurers around $2 billion"
But
"The attack -- carried out by supporters of former President Donald Trump who were dissatisfied with the 2020 election results -- caused about $2.7 billion in estimated costs"
Hmmmmmmmmm 2 billion over a season versus 2.7 billion in a day
Interesting
StoneAgePrincess@reddit
But answer the question, in the interests of democracy will you be ok with democrats doing what MAGA did at the Capitol?
Barragin@reddit
Remind us who was the President at the time and what steps he took to cool things down...
Signal-Chapter3904@reddit
Right and if he would have you all would be screaming he's doing a fascist crackdown of peaceful protesters.
Barragin@reddit
You just demonstrated that you don't get it. A sensible president would have showed empathy, and talked about common sense police reform. That would have calmed things down immediately.
Unfortunately the orange criminal wannabe fascist caveman lacked and still lacks any empathy or common sense. He proceeded to throw gas on the fire
Signal-Chapter3904@reddit
Lmao, yeah empathy and talking about common sense would have stopped people from burning down target and looting their local CVS.
Trump was actually very hands off, leaving each locality to handle it how they saw fit but made the national guard available. Not something a fascist would normally do.
Barragin@reddit
Bull Sh!t. He wanted to send in troops and bring the hammer down right away. Only certain Governors and mayors stopped that
Signal-Chapter3904@reddit
Ok, still failing to understand your point beyond if he just showed empathy, whatever that means, it would have prevented the radical left from burning down their neighborhoods but obviously we live in two different realities so have a good day.
SharkOnGames@reddit
Right, only hundreds of violent "peaceful protests' of attacking federal buildings, federal employees, etc over the last couple of years by the left.
If you ignore that, then yes it appears to be one-sided.
StoneAgePrincess@reddit
Can you answer my question?
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Not odd, completely logical unless you're in denial.
bigdipboy@reddit
Off of you to ignore current trends.
conservatore@reddit
Current trend appears to be the left attempting to assassinate a former president multiple times. It appears to be the current dem president calling his political opponent’s supporters garbage. It appears to be hateful fear mongering from leftist supporting media outlets. None of the fear mongering is true. Enjoy Trump the next 4 years
bigdipboy@reddit
In the real world everyone knows the shooters were republicans. But you get your news from Putin
conservatore@reddit
The irony is so fucking thick I can taste it
bigdipboy@reddit
That’s trumps rotten jizz
greentangent@reddit
Both shooters were conservatives.
conservatore@reddit
Have you taken leave of your senses or are you joking?
floopadoop37@reddit
Is it odd to assume it's coming from the side with a history of this sort of thing?
Raddish3030@reddit
Yeah. History. Like communist and socialist China and Russia.
Novel_Paramedic_2625@reddit
Oh yea totally, and the “summer of love” was totally a “mostly peaceful protest”. Im a conservative, and admit J6 was a shameful and blatant attack on democracy that all conservatives and republicans should be ashamed of, but lets not pretend this is a “one side” thing. The left has consistently shown that they are willing to resort to violence in order to obtain their goals.
Theres shit bags on either side of the political spectrum. Go ahead and downvote me, doesnt change the facts.
floopadoop37@reddit
If you're going to insist on being disingenuous about all this, you could have just answered yes to my question and saved yourself some time.
Novel_Paramedic_2625@reddit
Am i the one being disingenuous? We’ll see what the left does if Trump wins this election, and I bet you’ll still be in denial.
syynapt1k@reddit
The people who participated in violence during those protests were prosecuted locally. It wasn't a federal issue on par with attempting to overthrow the government and/or assassinate elected leaders, so I'm not sure what point you think you are making.
hortlerslover2@reddit
So the protests that attacked people, took over parts of seattle had no political change motivations?
idunnoiforget@reddit
What was the goal of the J-6 riot? Overthrow the elected government of the United states. This is a fact.
What was the goal of 2020 civil unrest? Protest real or perceived unfair treatment by police officer minorities, looting by opportunists, general unrest.
There's a difference between attempting a coup and protesting for social change, looting business, and general vandalism.
hortlerslover2@reddit
Violent protests can have just as much political change attempt as rioting at the capitol. They basically did general vandalism too if thats what we are gonna call it. If they really wanted a coup instead of expressing frustration with the government there would have been more guns involved and more violence.
idunnoiforget@reddit
One officer had a stroke from injuries sustained. 140 officers were injured. They erected gallows and changed "hang mike pence" the name of the fucking rally was stop the steal. There were individuals with firearms, zip ties, gas masks, bulletproof vests, explosives, other improvised weapons. They were absolutely there to attempt a coup.
Who the fuck brings zip ties to vandalize property. You bring zip ties to detain people. You bring vests when you expect to be shot at and gas masks when you expect to be tear gassed. You bring firearms when you intend to get into encounter armed resistance.
Greenzoid2@reddit
We already know exactly what the republican party is doing. Same as in 2020 except this time it won't rely on Mike Pence. They do not care how many votes they get, they are going to send this to the house.
idunnoiforget@reddit
The "summer of love" violence did not have the goal of overthrowing the elected government of the United States. This is also a whataboutism fallacy.
bigdipboy@reddit
BLM marches were not a coup attempt. this country has had many riots. It’s only had one coup attempt.
Audere1@reddit
All sides have a history for this sort of thing. The recent ballot box arsons have been associated with "free Gaza"
Weather Underground, a Marxist group, bombed the Capitol back in the '60s.
Tell me, who has the corner on having a "history of this sort of thing"?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
To be fair, which side has most of the guns?
conservatore@reddit
That has literally nothing to do with the capacity for violence
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
“A gun has nothing to do with the capacity for violence”
Okay buddy
regjoe13@reddit
Of course it does. Gun ownership in its majority means passing background checks. So the person with a legal gun is less likely to be a criminal.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
There sure were a lot of registered gun owners on J6 doing violent things…
regjoe13@reddit
Any stats on gun per person ratio in the protest? I can bet you dont even know how many there actually were registered gun owners.
On the other hand, democrats and leaning democrats are twice less likely to be gun owners compared to republicans and leaning republicans https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/
And there are basically twice as many democrats among active and released felons compared to republicans https://ragnarresearch.com/felon-enfranchisement
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
So you're saying those who had guns at J6 were not registered gun owners?
I am well aware of the obvious fact that there are less Dems than Reps that own guns. Grass is green, sky is blue.
...You are aware that felons cannot vote, correct? (at least not without going through conditional rights restoration, which is usually up to a judge)
regjoe13@reddit
You didn't read anything I posted, just replying directly from your heart, right?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Your second point was entirely redundant on the basis of common sense. I don't need a study to understand that left-leaning folks don't purchase guns at the level folks on the right do.
Bringing up felony convictions like it's supposed to be some weird dunk...what was your point there, to slander your political opposition over incarceration rates? We're talking about gun ownership. Stay on topic.
On that note, your Pew Research study only indicates that the likelihood of gun owners in the crowd on J6 was higher, not lower. At least 3 were arrested with firearms on their person. Hundreds more carried batons, mace, baseball bats, knives...
regjoe13@reddit
I am not sure where "weird dunk" thoughts are coming from. I guess the correlation in numbers between gun ownership and the absence of criminal history escaped you. Staing on the point of firearms ownership and not "batons, mace, baseball bats, knives", and its relation to political violence, post election riot in Portland was easily 3 times as many people involved, for example.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Neat, is Portland the seat of democracy and the workplace of our national leadership though? Does Congress convene and work there regularly?
regjoe13@reddit
I didn't realize your capacity of violence definition is geofenced. But true, jan 6 was a very targeted violence against the political leadership, vs post-election riots in Portland or post innaguration riots in DC ( though the protest were not limited by only those areas ) in 2016/2017 burning cars and smashing windows in their surroundings.
Staying on topic, though, I have not heard a single argument for your point, that gun ownership indicates increased capacity to violence.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Neat, is Portland the seat of democracy and the workplace of our national leadership though? Does Congress convene and work there regularly?
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
Without guns...
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Wrong.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
Lmao "wrong"
Not really. Not a single gun was used there.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
I dunno, Babbitt seemed to have her ticket punched by a bullet
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
By an officer and not a rioter lol
Which means they still didn't use guns during their little stunt.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
So they lacked the balls to take their country back?
Noted
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
Oh, you're trying to have a gotcha moment by switching it up to something I never even mentioned.
Noted.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Be reductive all you want, doesn't change the fact that grown ass men and women with jobs and families lost it all by giving that orange tyrant too much mental real estate. The words "susceptible" and "gullible" come to mind.
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
People have been doing that long before Trump and all types have done it so I don't know what to tell ya. People who make politics their entire identity aren't well rounded or rational people to begin with and that's your ultra maga down to the person who just HAS to go out of their way to let you know they hate Trump, why they hate him and who they're voting for.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Ehh, I feel like the knee-jerk against him is mostly justified. The left gets pretty cringe with how far some of the rhetoric goes, but the unfortunate part of it is that Trump has quite a few fascistic tendencies, and could do a lot of damage to long-standing institutions if re-elected. Just far too risky.
603rdMtnDivision@reddit
Perhaps in some cases they are but do they really need to wake up and immediately start thinking about him, how he makes them so angry and how much they hate him? That won't lead anywhere good for themselves.
I think a lot of them are pieces of corrupt shit who have played a back and forth tug of war that has given rise to the modern shitshow that is US politics and have gotten rich while fucking the rest of us over while simultaneously railroading us into this bullshit system that makes it easy for them and extremely difficult for us to move about our lives but that's where it ends for the most part.
I vote accordingly but I don't become an insufferable douchebag that can't shut the fuck up about it because at some point all of that unhealthy obsessing will ruin your body, mind and soul and then what? You're just a miserable fuck that will miss out on the beauty of life because you're too busy focusing on negative shit.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Oh sure- I agree there, I'm not that guy but am not beyond being vocal the week of the election.
I won't excuse the establishment's failures while criticizing Trump. DC is a disparate group of islands that rarely work together and blame everyone else when things go wrong because EVERYONE there is allergic to accountability.
My guy just because I brought up my distaste for Trump one time in a PrepperIntel thread on politics doesn't mean my head pops off the pillow thinking about him. I care about my country and how it's about to be potentially co-opted by people who will undo decades of hard work done by civil servants and activists, and the people it ultimately hurts most will be those who don't have much political or financial capital.
ArtisanalDickCheeses@reddit
Delulu.
conservatore@reddit
Continue circle jerking your commie buddies off in here I guess. Deuces
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Aaaaand there’s the insults. Bye
tehramz@reddit
It’s projection. They’re openly fascist so they call the other side communists to make it look like both sides are doing something. The funny thing is, they don’t have the slightest clue what communism is or they’d realize democrats are far from communists.
GlobalEar8720@reddit
I’ll do you one better. Which side has pundits and constituents specifically calling for political violence?
greatSorosGhost@reddit
I’ll do you one better. Which side has actually tried to kill their own VP, and tried to kill the speaker of the house… twice?
DungeonsNDragonDldos@reddit
Two have even tried to assassinate Trump this year…
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
“Hang Mike Pence”
“We need heads on pikes”
“They are attempting to certify a fake election in there. Fight like hell and take your country back”
Slammedtgs@reddit
Democrats have guns too.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
It’s not a cultural staple like it is for the right- and Dems don’t have the numbers in terms of training.
ballskindrapes@reddit
Right lol.
That's not true at all.
Anything besides your fee fees to prove this absolutely ludicrous claim?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
If by "fee fees" you mean actual life experience, sure.
I am from the Deep South, where firearms are a way of life. Most families here are staunch republicans, and outside of explicitly urban areas a significant portion of people still hunt every season. Kids are introduced to weapons, maintenance, ballistics, long-range precision shooting, and more at an early age- it's just a part of life here.
Because left-leaning voters are usually clustered in urban areas and city suburbs, hunting and firearms are not seen as a necessity outside of self-defense. There isn't a culture that's adjacent to or built around firearms, and kids aren't exposed to them outside of specific circumstances.
This is not to mention Gun Culture 2.0, which has seen a return of the American civilian minuteman in the past decade, and has made body armor, battle belts, ARs, and combat kit become somewhat commonplace and far less expensive than it used to be. Suppressors have also become far more accessible.
c30mob@reddit
have you seen post floyd minneapolis? lot of people participating aren’t voters, and the violence wasn’t incited by the right. all the conservative gun owners i know are respectful, law abiding citizens. when was the last time a mass shooter was found to lean right politically? i can’t think of any, can you?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
I’ve been to “post Floyd” Minneapolis, and it’s been cleaned up pretty well. Have you?
Picking one example of violence doesn’t represent left-leaning ideologies as a whole, as the left wing is much more fractured than the right and is not nearly as uniform ideologically.
Did you miss all the respectful, law abiding citizens attempting to hang Mike Pence on J6? Can send links if you need them.
I am talking about targeted political violence, not random acts of spree killing. Mass shooters hardly apply, throwing them in there like it helps your argument is weird.
thekrawdiddy@reddit
I would also add that the “Black lives matter riots” were the the result of generations of ongoing violent abusive social injustice, and the January 6 coup attempt was intended to destroy a whole government because their jackass lost an election. The two situations are not at all comparable.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
The summer of 2020 was truly a statistical outlier. Pandemic, everyone was home and couldn't go to work, it was hot as fuck, people were broke and trying to figure out how to make ends meet, and racial tensions had been building for 10 years.
Slow_Supermarket5590@reddit
Literally 100 percent of them.
DarkMuret@reddit
Twin Cities resident here, lived nearby when it happened, violence was invited by the right, and it was a lot of just general outside actors, we'll call them.
Depending on what you might consider as "leaning right" but Apalachee was last month, and the kid had a "shrine" of Nikolas Cruz, and he was an alt-right guy.
But, to the greater point of the post. Most politcal violence we're seeing is from the extreme right, but certainly not all.
We're all just so polarized.
IJizzOnRedditMods@reddit
Democrats own guns too. We just don't make our entire existence about them and don't try to fuck them
ghostmaster645@reddit
You mean the group of people that attacked that capital last election?
Yea THAT is what they are worried about. They literally reference it in the article.
DFX1212@reddit
What was the political affiliation of the January 6th insurrectionists?
What was the political affiliation of the two people who attempted to assassinate Trump?
What was the political affiliation of the person who was setting fires to ballot boxes in Oregon and Washington?
Here is a hint, they all have the same answer.
outhighking@reddit
It’s where the majority of political violence comes from
TinyDogsRule@reddit
The violence is likely to come from both sides. That does not change the fact that this could have been prevented if getting the right judges to the Supreme Court were not more important than holding the former president accountable. You will try to spin it differently, however the violence we are about to see from both the right and left would be nearly non-existent had Congress done their jobs. At least the shareholders are happy.
Barragin@reddit
Congress did do their jobs on J6. They certified the legitimate winner of the election. Wtf are you talking about ?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
The left does not have the ability to wage an extended insurgency.
TinyDogsRule@reddit
Never said they did. Pockets of violence are likely. It is foolish to think that some on the left will not partake.
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
Implying that the violence will be equal is ridiculous.
TinyDogsRule@reddit
Never said that either. I believe most of the violence with be from the right, but too many want to pretend it is all from one side.
Styl3Music@reddit
The FBI and CIA have effectively neutered left wing, eco, and socialist/communist violence. Last I checked, the stats for who actually commits terror attacks domestically showed accelerationists lead with Islamic groups in 2nd. Both are right wing, both on social and economic axis. Political violence is already happening, with the majority being from the right wing, even if it's composed of multiple factions.
Let's not forget that the majority of known assassination attempts on Trump have been from the right wing.
Part of my observation is that when shtf in terms of post election violence, the libs will riot. The commies will do mutual aid on site. And the fascists will shoot.
Another point to consider is that many predict a repeat of J6 or that nut who attacked the intell agency with guns and a nail gun. Both involved Trump supporters.
I'm not saying the left wing and dems are incapable of violence. Just that the threat is bigger from maga.
ballskindrapes@reddit
Considering the right did a literal insurrection...
And the fbi has found far, far more domestic terrorism comes from the far right than the far left....
Yeah, it's republicans.
Slow_Supermarket5590@reddit
Based on precedent, what with the whole couple attempt and all
DueUpstairs8864@reddit
It usually is.
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
We wouldnt be in this situation If trump wasn't running..
Striper_Cape@reddit
Telling on yourself
Due_Revolution_5845@reddit
Lmfao is it really odd?
Bravest1635@reddit
target did and do. The vote was NO twice.
Raddish3030@reddit
Maybe they should have chain of custody voting so that people can't fake or claim to fake it. But you know why suddenly we have to do mail in voting.
MkBr2@reddit
I mean… Harris supplanting ***biden was technically a coup, but not sure how anyone’s gonna punish her for it
flimflammedzimzammed@reddit
I would love to see a meal team six squad neutralized by the National guard.
Trippn21@reddit
Fair and transparent elections, voter id, proper oversight, and paper ballots, would solve this.
map-hunter-1337@reddit
good, put em all in the ground and try again. we are here because they cant take billionaire dick off their tongue for more than a minute.
tipsy_wheels206@reddit
The government not being scared of the general population is mind blowing. They show always understand that we are capable of taking back the power we gave them.
ArtisanalDickCheeses@reddit
Bullshit. Half of Congress is foaming at the mouth for it.
CacophonousCuriosity@reddit
I disagree. Sure, the government likes the political discourse; keeping people divided prevents unity against the government. However, the geopolitical climate is very hot right now. The US cannot afford to enter a civil war. The second it does, China and Russia will make their moves. US military power projection is getting spread a little thin as is, having to pull resources and assets back to deal with a civil war would be detrimental to US interests.
ExoticPumpkin237@reddit
The government is small beans. They're ultimately captive to the capitalists, and when things start to go into the red I have no doubt they'll "light a match" like in Goodfellas and carve up the remains. The Ned Beatty scene in NETWORK was appx 100 years ahead of its time for how these people actually view the US. People act so shocked that Trump is selling away nuclear secrets and classified shit as if he's fundamentally an aberration from any of the other vultures selling away "sacred institutions" like crack addicts casing a house for the copper piping in the walls... He isn't.. he's just the most prominent and shameless with it.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
........I don't broadly disagree. But the people in government in question in the top comment may have an interest in isolationism or obligations that might lead them to not be active in blocking china or russia.
CacophonousCuriosity@reddit
True. Hopefully the isolationists are a minority. The US going full isolation would be very bad for Europe and other allies.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
This right here.
Right up until it arrives at their doorstep, at which point they'll "condemn them in the strongest terms" with a stern finger wagging and disappointed look.
And once the rioters are safely away from their doorstep? They'll defend them from prosecution saying it wasn't really a riot and "I think they've learned their lesson."
L0LTHED0G@reddit
They were on a self-guided tour. Just because they broke in and made you have to evacuate and they were carrying zip tie handcuffs doesn't mean anything - they were on a self-guided tour.
I wish I was kidding.
Karissa36@reddit
>He sold out his country. It was absolutely spineless,” Sabato said.
This was said about McCarthy releasing the January 6 tapes which show over 98 percent of the people present were completely peaceful. Somehow in the democrat world, letting people see the true facts of what occurred is selling out the country.
L0LTHED0G@reddit
Selectively* releasing tapes.
Don't try hiding half truths.
dandilionmagic@reddit
By rioters you mean peaceful protestors right?! 🫠
Designer-Travel4785@reddit
Mostly peaceful.
ill_be_huckleberry_1@reddit
"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.”
Hot-Profession4091@reddit
Username checks out
YardFudge@reddit
Love fest
/s
Blessed_Ennui@reddit
Hawley haulin' ass from those front doors.
Nattydaddydystopia69@reddit
You mean the one that legalized a directive to drone strike their own citizens?
guyonghao004@reddit
Yes they are but they are also cowards lol - see their reaction in Jan6 2021. It was hilarious if not also terrifying
lilith_-_-@reddit
We all know which half too lmao. I wish the republican party came back as what it once was and didn’t die
Cooperjohn1021@reddit
Sounds like a good way to clean out the swamp a bit
NegotiationBulky8354@reddit
The article is pay walled so cannot read it. But the first sentence says both parties are concerned about violence. Republicans have been whipping up divisive rhetoric and trying to incite violence for several years now. This has been their big goal; what exactly are they afraid of now?
Row30@reddit
I hate it when paywalled articles are posted. It’s frustrating. You make some good points, thank you
NegotiationBulky8354@reddit
Thank you for your kind words, and your interest in facts. :)
Obvious_Key7937@reddit
Riots are only for the unemployed/ underemployed. The rest of us have responsibilities that are more important than a figurehead.
selimnairb@reddit
This election will end in a big wet fart.
Vensurething@reddit
The only thing they gotta watch out for is those ladies on “The View” that show us now way left of MSNBC and also Sunny Hostin just gets hotter and hotter.
33ITM420@reddit
this fear mongering is intentional, but not at all unexpected from axios, an outfit comprised as political activists masquerading as journalists
LV-Unicorn@reddit
Me too. They have been lied to by the press Over the last 9 years the press is still both siding it. And this election, someone bought and paid for the pollster and is influencing the betting odds. Most people, including democrats believe this election is close. It’s not. I am in Nevada and they call it purple. Nevada has 2 democratic senators and 3/4 of our representatives are democrats. The last time Nevada chose a republican for president was 2004. It’s not close and the press and everyone else has lied in order to keep people anxious and afraid
EPCOpress@reddit
Why would they worry about that? This president would send the national guard in immediately.
jarnhestur@reddit
Good. The ruling elite need to be uncomfortable. Each the rich.
MourningRIF@reddit
What happened to just eating them?
Past-Piglet-3342@reddit
The billionaires aren’t scared. Just their lapdogs.
T1Pimp@reddit
Correction: in fear of post election Republican violence... like LAST TIME.
regjoe13@reddit
Republican violence was very targeted. Not happy, with politicians, atack politicians.
Democratic violence, like post election in Portland, Oregon, or post inauguration in DC, is targeted more on hurting their surroundings, setting vehicles on fire, smashing shops, etc.
bigdipboy@reddit
America has had many riots. We’ve only had one coup attempt
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
We used to have rebellions :)
bigdipboy@reddit
Tools of Putin aren’t rebels.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
Who’s the tool of Putin here?
My ancestors have been fighting Russian imperialism since the 1910s.
bigdipboy@reddit
Trump and his cult are the tools of Putin
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
I think Putin is beating to his own drum at this point.
Have you heard the new BRICs gold backed currency? Putin has plenty of allies across the globe, I’m not sure he cares much about America (except to watch us burn).
bigdipboy@reddit
If he didn’t care about America why did he create an army of pro Trump online trolls?
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
That was 4 years ago.
And Putin was one of many doing the “trolling”
regjoe13@reddit
There was no way for it to work, though. Besides, I had to choose between violence spilling out on the streets vs. staying confined within this building limits, I would choose the latter.
bigdipboy@reddit
I would prefer a regular riot over the overthrow of American democracy because I have a brain and patriotism. Trump could attempt failed last time. He still attempted it and many repubs helped him and protected him from accountability.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
Some would say a rebellion is actually your civil and patriotic duty 🤷🏻♀️
Thomas Jefferson was a big fan of rebellions but nobody ever called him an “insurrectionist.”
bigdipboy@reddit
I don’t think they are referring to when your Russian puppet cult leader loses an election
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
Weird, I don’t like trump.
The only candidates I really vibe with are claudia de la cruz and chase Oliver. Both of them will loose, but it won’t be because of Putin.
Jill stein is okay too but she’s not my top pick.
bigdipboy@reddit
Why is Putin supporting stein and Trump?
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
How do we really know who Putin supports?
Who does the ccp support?
bigdipboy@reddit
This is how dumb you have to pretend to be to justify still supporting Trump.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
I don’t like or support trump.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
This ... This needs punctuation
Professional-Can1385@reddit
There was no post inauguration violence in the District of Columbia. Quit making things up.
regjoe13@reddit
Seriously, just grow up.
"Inauguration protesters vandalize, set fires, try to disrupt Trump’s oath, as police arrest more than 200" https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protesters-bring-shouts-skirmishes-and-shutdowns-to-inauguration-celebration/2017/01/20/00ea4c72-df11-11e6-acdf-14da832ae861_story.html
smokedfishfriday@reddit
lol what are you talking about? They shit, literally, on and in the US Capitol
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
The left has resorted to violence fairly quickly since 1848
Inside-Middle-1409@reddit
The left resorted to welfare and violence 1933-1945 and USA came out of the Great Depression and WW2 as the world's largest economy and the greatest military EVER...guaranteeing 80 years of dominance and global free trade on the world's oceans.
SicSemperTieFighter3@reddit
Matt Gaetz is hoping for it.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Hard to tell any of his feelings since he got that shitty botox browlift, my god
mew11250910@reddit
It’s happening either way regardless of the election results. Stay out of the cities if you can, have plans in place if you can’t avoid going into the cities due to work.
hotdogbo@reddit
Why would cities be dangerous?
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Lone wolves thinking they're doing something
mew11250910@reddit
Cities are where most of the protesting/rioting would be happening.
mew11250910@reddit
Cities are where most of the protesting/rioting would be happening.
poohthrower2000@reddit
The bottom line is that no matter which side wins, accusations of cheating will happen thus leading to violence. The color of the tribe doesn't matter.
Sufficient_Loss9301@reddit
Based on everything we’ve seen in the past decade I think the fear of violence around this election lands cleanly into only one side.
poohthrower2000@reddit
Because you play for blue tribe, that's your perspective. As someone who believes both red and blue tribes are trash and the 2 party system built to control the people, is trash as well.
Violence can and will come from BOTH sides because that's what the government has programmed the people for.
Sufficient_Loss9301@reddit
Buddy, I’m not a fan of either side myself, but last time I checked only the republicans have attempted a hostile subversion of our election. Say what you will about the democrats, but you simply can’t provide examples of them using rhetoric that has the potential to incite violence like some republicans do. Sorry bud this isn’t a political debate but something that is objectively true.
triars@reddit
Idk man. Those BLM protests weren't as peaceful as you might think. I mean if you think one side is incapable of violence and the other are only domestic terrorists, you might be on a team after all.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Riots are not the same as a coup.
And those riots cost 2 billion over many days, whereas the coup cost 2.7 billion in one day.
These things are not comparable. They are apples and oranges.
ballskindrapes@reddit
They were studied and 93% were entirely peaceful....
So one side is entirely much less violent by far, and the right....they love it.
Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.
From one of the most reputable sources for ciminological data out there...
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism
Gee, the left is just under 6 times less violent....
triars@reddit
Thanks for the read. I'll take this into consideration.
ballskindrapes@reddit
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
I forgot to add the source that BLM were 93% peaceful
triars@reddit
Nice. Thanks. I was wondering where the stat came from. So if I'm reading this correctly, (I'm an idiot) out of the ~10k protests around the country 93% are peaceful which left about 220 cities affected by violence and destruction?
ballskindrapes@reddit
Define violence and destruction, and define who amongst the protestors was violent....could have been anyone, especially the violent far right, maybe they were "counterprotesting" and became violent?
By all the data I've shown you, your not-so-subtle implications that the "left" is the bad guy is laughable, entirely laughable.
triars@reddit
No man. That wasn't the point. I agree with the guy from the original comment. Both sides are human and capable of violence was my only point. Not trying to demonize the left any more than I demonize the right. I'm actually just trying to parse through that info.
DFX1212@reddit
All humans are capable of violence, one side encourages it. Remember Trump telling his crowd to beat up protestors? Kamala just makes jokes at Trump's expense to her protestors. But sure, both sides are the same. Herp derp.
triars@reddit
Hey that's a fair point but what does herp deep mean?
DFX1212@reddit
derp informal exclamation exclamation: herp derp used as a substitute for speech regarded as meaningless or stupid, or to comment on a foolish or stupid action. "Lower tax rates and far lower job creation. Derp"
triars@reddit
That's mean. No need to attack me personally. I did not do it to you.
DFX1212@reddit
It wasn't an attack against you personally, per say. It was more saying the argument that both sides are the same is so incredibly asinine and without merit, the only appropriate response is herp derp.
triars@reddit
Ah I see. At a lost for words if you will. Got ya.
triars@reddit
No need to redefine the terms. Let's just use the definition of violence that the articles you posted used. And yes it could be conservatives. I agree, but again, no reason to stray from the science now. Can I get the studies?
ballskindrapes@reddit
Click the link, it has the link to the study.
NSFWSituation@reddit
The BLM protests had nothing to do with any election. The goal of the BLM protests was, at no point, to subvert the will of the people. It was a response to police violence. Much of the “rioting” was because of the heavyhanded response by the police. Quit being disingenuous.
triars@reddit
Sure. Maybe the reasoning is different but it's still violence and destruction.
DFX1212@reddit
Election results have never been a catalyst for violence on the left, meanwhile all the violence around politics is 100% coming from the Republic party.
poohthrower2000@reddit
What about the time the blue team tried to take over a major city? (Chop/chaz)
oh-bee@reddit
Yes, taking over a few blocks in Seattle is totally comparable to taking over the entire country.
Both sides!
son-of-hasdrubal@reddit
The dems called Trump an illegitimate president and as soon as he took office the sham witch hunt investigations started. You guys really live in an alternate reality
SingularityIsN3ar@reddit
If you lose by MILLIONS of votes and still take power, you ARE illegitimate.
Professional-Can1385@reddit
Sadly, the popular vote doesn’t matter. He won by the (dumb and out dated) rules of our elections.
son-of-hasdrubal@reddit
He didn't lose though he won the election
Sufficient_Loss9301@reddit
Yeah well the republicans thought the democrats were running a child trafficking ring because of that weirdo Q anon shit. Suffice to say I don’t think you have much ground to stand on here bud.
son-of-hasdrubal@reddit
Ya that came from the hacked emails of the DNC where they themselves talk about pizzas and hot dogs being flown in.
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
They don't care, msnbc told them none of the politicians are pedos and they believe it.
NatterinNabob@reddit
No, because we have already seen an election stolen from the Dems, and the left did nothing in response except lick their wounds and try again next time.
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
Which election was stolen ?
NatterinNabob@reddit
Well, we can argue over the word "stolen", but there were a lot of shenanigans in Florida in the 2000 election, and it was a far more suspect outcome than the 2020 elections. And nobody tried to storm DC.
oh-bee@reddit
It was stolen. Between the brook brothers riot, and floridas governer(bushes brother) and the attorney general(working for bushes campaign), we can call it what it was.
NatterinNabob@reddit
I agree, I just didn't want to get dragged into the weeds rehashing that argument.
outhighking@reddit
Russian bot
poohthrower2000@reddit
Everytime I see this comment I picture the frizzled hair meme person losing their shit because they can't handle truths or reality. Its like a lil baby crying. Wah wah wah Russian bot wah wah.
Russian bot. Lol such a cop out comment.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
The world is made up of frizzled hair meme persons and a bunch of bad people lying to themselves. So it isn't much of an insult.
devadander23@reddit
Who stormed the capital????
poohthrower2000@reddit
Human beings of planet earth.
devadander23@reddit
Wow. Are you an ostrich? Just flat out burying your head in the sand?
poohthrower2000@reddit
I'm not wrong. It was humans of planet earth.
outhighking@reddit
Move along this person is not commenting in good faith
poohthrower2000@reddit
Oh no I am. Look at a bigger picture. We are humans of earth. Not democrats or Republicans. Time we all started acting that way and look at bigger picture ideas. Not these little piddly bullshit red tribe vs blue tribe cry baby antics.
outhighking@reddit
Such bs go away troll
devadander23@reddit
In the context of this discussion, it’s a bit disingenuous
lawman9000@reddit
Don't talk sense here! My tribe is the best tribe, fuck you! Just like my magical sky daddy is better than yours. /s
poohthrower2000@reddit
Just lookit the downvotes we get for having logic. Bring em on. Downvote me harder daddy.
lawman9000@reddit
Not the downvotes! That would be real depressing if I lived my life solely to get upvoted on Reddit.
Really though, my Grandmother was born in 1925 Germany. She lived in Germany her whole life. She told me all the stories of her childhood during that time. Dehumanizing your political opponents and basically ignoring the villainy on your own side is a very familiar theme I am seeing these days, and the side claiming to be strongly anti-Fascist is certainly well versed in the Fascist playbook.. and not in a good way.
StoneAgePrincess@reddit
Wait, are you Mandalorian?
poohthrower2000@reddit
Now that you mention it........
Antennangry@reddit
There is only one side this cycle and last that is actively accusing the other of committing outright fraud at a massive scale to influence the outcome. Stop with the false equivalence BS. Yes both sides suck on a good day, BLM riots, yada yada. But only Trump and his surrogates fomented and the tried to sick a big angry mob on Congress, the very seat of government, to compel the subversion of due constitutional process, and the broader GOP is just played along. That’s dictator shit. Trump and his network are already putting out messaging and laying the groundwork to do it again, this time at the state level, but they’ll make a move on the capitol again if they feel it becomes necessary. THIS. IS. NOT. NORMAL.
Myrtle_Nut@reddit
bOtH SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE!1!1!
DonBoy30@reddit
I’m in the same boat as you, as an independent, but BLM didn’t storm the capitol building after Trump won in 2016. So a precedence has been set. Do “team blue” like to protest? Absolutely. Do they clash with police? Yes. Is the Blue Team so deluded that they’d try to hang their own Republican VP and over run the Capitol building? Nope.
bigboldbanger@reddit
that's just cause you're in a reddit echo chamber.
Nohlrabi@reddit
Nah. The insurrection was televised.
bigboldbanger@reddit
It was not an insurrection. These people all had guns and left them home. It was a protest turned riot. But don't let me stop you from enjoying your propaganda.
Nohlrabi@reddit
Nah. It was an insurrection.
What it was NOT was an “attempted coup.” It WAS a coup. But it failed.
The people absolutely DID NOT leave their guns at home. They were in the trees with their guns in their hands. Trump even told his handlers to “turn the mags off! They’re not here to hurt me!”
The even had a gallows. And they chanted,
“Hang Mike Pence!”
“Bring him out!”
“Hang Mike Pence!”
“Bring him out!”
Watched it all day, in living color, right in my living room. Nobody newscasters spoke. We all listened to the insurrectionists. The cameramen recorded everything. In silent shock.
Ya know, if you’re going to be a red hat, at least don’t lie about it, or cover your face. Be brave like the Black Panthers. Those men were brave, and they certainly didn’t hide or lie about who they were and what they stood for.
I’m “falling for propaganda?”
You’re a traitor.
DFX1212@reddit
I don't recall widespread accusations of cheating when Trump won in 2016. How many lawsuits did the Democrats bring to court? How many people had to be sued into bankruptcy just to get them to stop falsely spreading that Trump cheated? How many were arrested and served prison time for attacking a government building over the results?
Professional-Can1385@reddit
I remember widespread accusations of cheating leading up to and right after Trump won in 2016. They came from TRUMP himself.
IrwinJFinster@reddit
Correct answer.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
Funny.
I don't remember the left rioting when Bush and the Brooks Brothers stole the election in Florida in 2000.
IrwinJFinster@reddit
Times are different now. We are much more polarized.
Careless_Donkey_6644@reddit
this right here
Tjgfish123@reddit
Political divisions and partisan tensions were present long before Trump, but his presidency undeniably deepened these divides in unprecedented ways. From the start, he introduced heightened skepticism toward institutions, the media, and the electoral process, amplifying public distrust and intensifying political polarization. His repeated claims of election fraud—beginning even before his 2016 victory—fueled a lasting shift in how Americans view the integrity of democratic processes, with impacts that have continued to reverberate across the political landscape.
Everything since on both sides is simply a symptom of Trump and his erosion on America's democracy.
Ask yourself this honestly. If Trump never called into question the integrity of the American Elections would we be at this current point?
aBlackKing@reddit
To be fair, if one actually paid attention to certification for Trump’s votes in congress, this happened https://youtu.be/S-4tkOTZWH4?si=yxn0hAJqIXvQAnHJ .
Polarization was happening well before Trump took office, and I could recall a 2012 or so article about it from AP, but our government didn’t do anything about it and still isn’t doing anything about it.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
But a couple of old ladies in Congress yelling about Trump isn't nearly the same as an entire attempted coup.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
But a couple of old ladies in Congress yelling about Trump isn't nearly the same as an entire attempted coup.
bigboldbanger@reddit
idk, keep calling him hitler for another 9 years and we'll see where we're at.
We_Are_0ne1@reddit
We'll be calling him that long after he's dead, which can't come soon enough.
Tjgfish123@reddit
What's your point? He calls her communist trash; I heard pimp handler at one point the other night. Enemy's within...dumb, stupid, radical, low IQ... I'd argue that Trump's tone turned up the volume up to 11. His convincing half the country that we can't trust the election results is also a huge amplifier. I tend to think Trump is closer to fascist than he is not. I'm sure some would be willing to argue that. But I saw enough on January 6th to affirm my beliefs. Let me ask you...did Trump lose? And if that answer is yes... do you think if he could have gotten away with it, would he have changed the election outcome against the will of the American people to keep himself in office? Just answer that honestly. Please.
Malcolm_Morin@reddit
It starts and ends with Hitler.
bigdipboy@reddit
The Trump problem resulted from decades of Russian propaganda
TVpresspass@reddit
I think that's a limited view. The polarization and destabilization of America has been a long time forming. Remember in the 2000s when everyone was shocked by the tea party craziness? We don't hear about them anymore, because they essentially took over.
Trump is an acceleration. But I really think the turning point was when Jimmy Carter tried to tell Americans they had to try to live with less, and Bush Sr. and the CIA pulled a fast one on him.
cansado_americano@reddit
Really?
By which side?
sex_music_party@reddit
It’s predetermined. They already know which side, and have an idea/plan/hope of what might go down.
ChardEmotional7920@reddit
Clarifying for unnecessary vagueness here, I do believe the side being discussed as potential issue is the same side that was the issue previously?
Talking about the MAGA crowd?
Because yes, I agree that it is indeed predetermined.
holysollan@reddit
I thought we were talking about the side defending lawless riots and the side with multiple assassination attempts in the past few years?
Dont play innocent because the left is not.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Yes, the side defending the January 6 riot.
Yes, the side that both shooters were on.
Yes.
PalmTreesOnSkellige@reddit
They're not ready to hear that man.
themythagocycle@reddit
I think it is important to exclude people who attempt assassination from being on ‘a side’ - left or right. These are mentally ill folks that should be locked up. No rational person attempts to assassinate a candidate. Grouping an assassin in as ‘just a part of the left’ is not accurate, as an independent, I think most American voters condemn this behavior regardless of party affiliation.
yung12gauge@reddit
Disagree to some extent: assassins can definitely be "on a side" and aren't always mentally ill. I think where we agree is that the assassin, radicalized as they are, does not represent the rest of the folks on "their side".
themythagocycle@reddit
Yeah that’s fair. I can agree with that.
SharkOnGames@reddit
You mean the 'peaceful protests' and the person who had a gun who was 'having a mental health crisis'?
MkBr2@reddit
MAGA folks didn’t burn, loot, or murder for 3 months
JackasaurusChance@reddit
But they did try to overthrow democracy...
MkBr2@reddit
Given your proclivity to judge an entire group by the actions of an absurdly small minority subset of that group, you just really hate black people and absolutely loathe Muslims.
SlumLordOfTheFlies@reddit
I thought that lasted a lot longer than that.
RicGhastly@reddit
They just consolidated all their rioting into one big treasonous party on January 6th
MkBr2@reddit
I mean by CNN’s journalistic “standards”, Jan 6 was a “mostly peaceful protest”. Besides, Dems started it with - according to you, anyway - a “big treasonous party” when they stormed the senate on 28 September, 2018.
RicGhastly@reddit
You really comparing a couple of women who ran in screaming to a thousands of people, some armed, erecting a gallows intended for the Vice President?
As far as I can tell, this isn't a place for politics. Just shove it.
sex_music_party@reddit
Presidents are selected and the election is predetermined.
Inv3rted_Moment@reddit
Yes, the 2016 election was predetermined by the Deep State
bigdipboy@reddit
And the skid marks in your underwear were out there by the deep state
DFX1212@reddit
So, Trump is really the deep state and not Hillary?
sex_music_party@reddit
Both are
ChardEmotional7920@reddit
Russian bot say what now?
outhighking@reddit
Go back to r/conspiracy with that nonsense
ballskindrapes@reddit
Predetermined by a previous insurrection, yes.
There isn't a conspiracy here. Just one party trying, again, to steal an election
sex_music_party@reddit
It’s not a conspiracy. Just the way the world is. Many just don’t want to see it/believe it.
ballskindrapes@reddit
There isn't some cabal of people pulling strings. Your implications are indeed conspiratorial.
It's simply rich vs poor, always has been. and while both parties are beholden to their donors, only one party happily supported a coup....which one was that again?
And which party, despite zero evidence and continually being proven factually wrong, still says the 2020 election was stolen....?
sex_music_party@reddit
Actually there is. Sorry to burst your bubble.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
oh no, not my bubble!
sex_music_party@reddit
Popped. But you can blow another one.
DisastrousClassic@reddit
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
sex_music_party@reddit
Correct.
TheIdiotSpeaks@reddit
"But David Icke told me that all the reptialian Jews are the ones ruling the Democrats." -u/balllskindrapes, probably
ballskindrapes@reddit
So a conspiracy, got it.
sex_music_party@reddit
Yes, thinking we elect a president is a conspiracy.
bigboldbanger@reddit
wait, which?
crash______says@reddit
The election they are currently winning?
ballskindrapes@reddit
We'll see who wins, and who whines about the election being "stolen" again...
Ordinary144@reddit
Yes, those dastardly Russians will once again ensure a win for trump and have to ve dealt with. Commence our nuclear annihilation...
ballskindrapes@reddit
It's always interesting those who make light of very real, anti-democratic events....makes me wonder which side they support...
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
Im on the fuck putin but no ww3 for europes borders camp
Girafferage@reddit
ww3 is already locked in
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
I'll pass thanks
Girafferage@reddit
Not sure you get a vote 😕 neither do I.
LysanderSpoonerDrip@reddit
Yes you do. Civil disobedience. Anti war politics. Undressing the jingoism of your typical unelisted voter.
RealWolfmeis@reddit
There's no way to say anyone is winning this. Polls are loose, and a whole shit ton of us refuse to even participate. We won't see actual trend until the counting starts up.
groupnight@reddit
Do you already know which side?
sex_music_party@reddit
Nope. Those that run the world do though.
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
Who are they?
sex_music_party@reddit
The people with the most money and power.
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
And who are they?
sex_music_party@reddit
P Diddy
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
If Diddy had that kind of power over governments, you think he’d be facing what he is right now? That shit would have disappeared.
Try again.
sex_music_party@reddit
It’s definitely P Did. He’s running the world. I can’t believe you can’t see it!
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
You know, I was actually trying to give you a hearing, but instead you decided to be a twit.
I’m not going to bother with you anymore. Ciao.
sex_music_party@reddit
Don’t do me any favors.
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
Yes
Designer-Travel4785@reddit
If Kamala wins, the conservative voters will point to the polls and claim it was stolen. If Donald wins, the liberals will claim that they have to save the country from Hitler and his Nazis.
frillybunnysocks@reddit
I honestly don’t think liberals will do shit, I think for the most part they’re going to take the L if Trump wins. Conservatives are the ones foaming at the mouth for this. There definitely will be violence if Kamala wins. Even now conservatives can’t be respectful & let it play out. They’re already trying to intimidate Kamala supporters & 50% of Kamala Harris signs that I’ve seen are vandalized in my area. It’s anything but patriotic. It’s seriously so messed up that we can’t respect others beliefs & do this diplomatically. That’s what I’m going to teach my kids at least.
1Squid-Pro-Crow@reddit
Yeah if Trump wins, it sucks but it's democracy.
If Trump wins because there's a tie and the house votes him in, again, sucks, but legal.
If Trump wins because someone purposefully fucked up EC votes, or SCOTUS gets involved or some governor decides to ignore their state count, or so on then we've got a problem.
Angry_Villagers@reddit
Their violence will be emboldened if Trump wins and they’ll want to retaliate if he loses. They’re going to be violent either way.
smokeandmirrorsff@reddit
Twiddle Dee and twiddle dum.
SicSemperTieFighter3@reddit
Yes
VacationBorn8659@reddit
Both
Barragin@reddit
Is that a serious question?
Raddish3030@reddit
Lol. Spare me the maudlin routine. They are itching for violence so they can clap back with the most severe police state that would make the reaction to 9/11 blush.
Congress would LOVE IT. Gives them more reason to seize more power.
IsItAnyWander@reddit
For real. Gripped by fear? Lmao who believes this shit?
mattmayhem1@reddit
There are some fearful idiots out there gobbling up as much propaganda as they can, who are rallying behind the tyranny because they think it benefits their team.
IsItAnyWander@reddit
Wasn't calling you a joke, lol.
mattmayhem1@reddit
You good
IsItAnyWander@reddit
Maybe similar to the terrorist scare after 9/11. What a joke.
mattmayhem1@reddit
Yup
dgdfthr@reddit
Perhaps if members of congress are worried about post-election violence they should stop intentionally dividing us and using inflammatory rhetoric.
Constantlearner01@reddit
Ditto for the average american who doesn’t have the benefit of protection that politicians have. Thanks for letting an American Taliban rise up without doing anything to protect us.
FireballAllNight@reddit
Good. Nearly half of them there share responsibility for the current situation.
PoohRuled@reddit
Vote! And remember Biden is still President. He will put the hammer down on any type of violence at the capital.
Unfair_Bunch519@reddit
I will agree with you on that lol 😂
Affectionate-Pain74@reddit
There might be immediate pockets of people fighting directly after the election. I’m more worried about the ratcheting up of rhetoric from his supporters and foreign countries. (China, Russia) up to Jan 20th.
dontsheeple@reddit
The Left will be winding up the virtue signaling, fake outrage masses if Trump wins, just like last time, maybe burn down a few cities, all for the greater good of course.
KgMonstah@reddit
Ashli Babbitt could not be reached for an opinion on the matter.
Nemo_Shadows@reddit
A Creation of their own making and pretty sure it is the Democrats behind this after all treason does have its repercussions, collusion in crimes that are masquerading as some sort of political stance in violation of the Constitution.
I cannot say it has not happened before SO Need I say More?
N. S
KgMonstah@reddit
Projection so big you should open a movie theater.
And who signs Reddit comments with their initials, fucking weirdo?
PuzzleheadedDog9658@reddit
From both sides?
NewLawGuy24@reddit
from one party.
wrmbrn@reddit
Keep telling yourself that
NewLawGuy24@reddit
It’s true
bigdipboy@reddit
The same congress who voted to keep the fascists from facing accountability? Wah
Past-Piglet-3342@reddit
Fascists are useful to capital.
winepimp1966@reddit
They should be concerned. When there is another uprising by the trumpettes, and there will be, it’s time to use the proper amount of force…..which means mowing them down. Lethal force is authorized for active attempts to overthrow the government and democracy so let’s put that to use next time.
Pitiful_Eye3084@reddit
A cop did take out a rioter who was advancing on the VPs position. The ones on the perimeter didn't fire because they were outnumbered 300 to 1. They'd get killed before they could reload.
Ok-Guarantee7383@reddit
The media and ALL OF US are contributing to this kettle that could very well BOIL OVER. We have to stop, take a few breaths, really think about our own individual, prospective futures, and then see that we can be throwing it all away if we let anger and violence get the best of us. News media and social media FEED off of this stuff and we willingly agree to participate as consumers and AGITATORS. Let’s just take a break from all of this bad stuff, spend any/as much time as we can with the GOOD STUFF in the next few days, so we can all realize what we have to LOSE if anger and distrust gets any worse… its an election, a fairly important election, but its still just PEOPLE filling those roles for a brief period of time, before we get yet another chance to organize and make change. This horrible rhetoric from both parties that is then swiftly ECHOED/AMPLIFIED/CREATED by the news media outlets is probably much more of a danger than any candidate running in any of your/our respective elections. Our collective, intensified tribal behavior is also more of a danger than those candidates and/or issues on ballots. Please try to be civil - and perhaps even KIND - in the coming days and weeks.
myhairychode@reddit
Man, if only we had some sort of justice system that would have prevented all of this..
bigdipboy@reddit
Merrick garland is a coward
memememe81@reddit
He's a WORM. Weak old Republican milquetoast.
ColtHand@reddit
Merrick Garland is about as far from Republican as one can be
Awhispersecho1@reddit
Yeah, I'm sure they're gripped with fear about something they are probably involved in planning.
firsmode@reddit
"The mood out there is harsh": Congress freaked out about Trump-focused violence
Illustration: Maura Losch/Axios
Lawmakers in both parties are bracing themselves for a tumultuous period after the Nov. 5 election, with many openly expressing fears of political violence.
Why it matters: Democrats, in particular, see it as virtually inevitable that Trump will challenge the election results if he loses, raising the specter of nationwide civil unrest or even a repeat of the Jan. 6 attack.
One House Democrat told Axios they are "extremely" concerned about violence and hired half a dozen state troopers to provide security at their election night event — a significant boost over past years.
Republicans, on the other hand, claim the real threat will be from the political left being unable to accept another Trump term.
State of play: Federal and local law enforcement are already ramping up security across D.C. ahead of the election, Axios' Cuneyt Dil reported.
The Secret Service confirmed to Axios that security enhancements have been made to the Capitol in the run-up to the certification of presidential electors on Jan. 6 — including fencing erected around the Capitol complex.
Rep. Greg Landsman (D-Ohio) told Axios that, when Congress left for recess in September, "What I saw in terms of security was unprecedented."
The Capitol Police turned heads Monday night by performing a "casualty evacuation exercise" that involved landing three helicopters on the East Front of the Capitol.
What they're saying: In discussions with more than a dozen House Democrats, virtually all expressed some degree of fear about the possibility of post-election violence.
"Members are talking amongst ourselves about making sure people are safe, making sure their families are safe ... and what the protocols and procedures are," said Rep. Annie Kuster (D-N.H.).
"We're certainly in a heightened threat environment here. There's no doubt about it ... so we're going to have to be vigilant about it and make sure we're taking precautions," said Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.).
Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) said she fears violence regardless of the presidential result: "If [Trump] wins, he and his violent supporters will be emboldened, and if he loses, I worry they will be worse than four years ago. I think about it a lot."
The other side: Republicans voiced similar concerns, but predicted Democrats will be the perpetrators of the violence, particularly around a potential Trump inauguration.
Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) said governors should have their national guard units "ready to go on a moment's notice to quell any type of civil unrest," and that "they better have [the Capitol] locked down" on inauguration day.
Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) cited rioting during Trump's inauguration in 2017, telling Axios, "I think there's a very good chance they will do it again."
Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) said he suspects the likelihood of violence "is higher if Trump wins. Like we saw on Jan. 20, 2017."
The intrigue: While most members' fears were focused on Jan. 6, some also expressed worry about the days after Nov. 5 — when some key presidential swing states are likely to remain uncalled as votes are counted.
"It's going to take some time to process ballots. So there's a lot of concern about those several days that follow the election ... about security, but also just about the ramped up rhetoric that we all expect," said Rep. Dan Kildee (D-Mich.).
Lawmakers said they haven't yet been briefed on post-election security measures, with some expressing eagerness to receive such a briefing.
Zoom in: Several Democrats described recent experiences that gave them chills about the highly charge political atmosphere of the country leading up to the election.
Rep. Becca Balint (D-Vt.) shared how she was in New York the night of Trump's Madison Square Garden rally and found herself "in a sea of angry Trump voters," adding, "The mood was quite dark."
Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) said he "had two women verbally assault me and rudely interfere with my dinner" while in a GOP-held congressional district neighboring his own, telling Axios, "The mood out there is harsh."
Between the lines: The fears come up against a backdrop of a dramatic rise in threats against lawmakers in recent years.
Violent attacks such as the Capitol riot and the Good Friday vehicle attack in 2021 — as well as several more recent disturbing incidents — have added a graphic element to those fears.
A handful of ballot box fires in the Pacific Northwest also has lawmakers concerned about efforts to interfere with states' election procedures.

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Unique-Coffee5087@reddit
I hope that the defenders of the Capitol will have clear instructions on what they should do if another army of rebels attempts to overthrow the government. One of the most frustrating things on 01/06/2021 was seeing the police trying to hold back a violent mob by placing crowd barriers. I can understand that they did not know what else to do, and did the very best they could, but this cannot happen again.
If there is another attempt to invade the Capitol or other government buildings, the defenders mus know how to respond in the worst case scenario. They must have standing orders so they will be able to properly escalate their response even if communications with superiors are not available.
And at some point, the invaders must be considered to be a hostile army of traitors.
Additionally, I would not trust MAGA-aligned members of Congress to be peaceful. Some have made it clear that they wish to carry guns while in the building. Is there any assurance that they will not themselves attempt to hold Democratic and loyal Republican members hostage? I would consider them to be potential combatants.
TopGrand9802@reddit
Maybe they should have accepted the National Guard as was offered.
And you shouldn't be as worried about an unarmed 'MAGA' crowd as much as the brick and frozen water bottle throwing, masked and carrying skateboards for weapons 'peaceful protestors.
iclammedadugger@reddit
I am surprised the capitol police only shot one person. I saw so many instances of officers lives being threatened.
Pantsy-@reddit
Everything is cool. Totally normal planning for an election in a developed nation with a stable government.
bbrosen@reddit
My sister works for an Insurance Agency, they have sent an emergency email throughout the company saying the risk of violence is the highest it has ever been in our country, more so than 2016 and 2020. They have plans for people to work from home and prepare for long hours if there is an influx of claims due to arson, vandalism and looting..
Coolenough-to@reddit
They are probably rehearsing for another round of performance art photo ops. Hiding under tables, running down hallways, etc...
Conscious-Ticket-259@reddit
Then arrest the rebels. Do the damn job. They are afraid? The rest of us have been dealing with this shit for ages.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
The people have a right to be rebellious :)
Conscious-Ticket-259@reddit
Not when the rebellious ideas they are forcing are the very things we rebeled from in the first place. When their whole movement is about restricting rights, hurting others and forcing religious theocracy on the rest of us they become the enemy not only of America itself but frankly of humankind. They are leaches.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
Well if trump wins, maybe you should join the peaceful, rebellious collective consciousness to protect your rights?
If you think trump will take away your rights, you have the right and civic duty to defend yourself.
Conscious-Ticket-259@reddit
If Trump wins were all fucked. It wouldn't be a rebel collective it would be a resistance. They have already been trying to take our rights all while crying about others supposedly doing so. Classic projection tactics always. And as always it works way better than anyone is willing to admit most of the time.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
A rebellion is the resistance :)
Remember to choose peace whenever possible ☮️
Conscious-Ticket-259@reddit
Peace and love has its place. Threats to peace and rights must be culled from the tree of liberty. If we hadnt been so lax with the rebels after the civil wat they wouldnt hold the south now. If we hadnt been so lax after January 6th or the discovery of project 2025 we wouldn't be having these problems. Peace is for afterwards. Peace is for those that dont try and take rights from others. There will be no peace but that of a slave if we lose sight of freedom
NeoMaxiZoomDweebean@reddit
Well if they get rid of trumpism for good they wont have to hide in broom closets anymore
More_Perspective_461@reddit
Good. I hope they are. The government should always be afraid of the people. When the government no longer fears its citizens or respect them bad things start to happen and there are many many examples of this worldwide including our two biggest major enemies of the United States
lessergooglymoogly@reddit
Accountable, yes. Afraid no.
Busy_Professional824@reddit
Get some a-10 warthogs on standby.
BarKeepBeerNow@reddit
It might be an unpopular stance, but Congress should always live in fear of the people it represents, at least at some level.
My_black_kitty_cat@reddit
Correct.
Government should fear the people.
I am a pacifist btw but there’s a carve out for self defense.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
But that isn't what we are talking about. 06Jan was not a good representative sample of the people of the nation. Its cross section is terrible, its bias is worse, and some of them didn't even vote (not voting is, I guess, a good representation of the country, but still a challenge to the question of who congress represents if they didn't vote for anyone to represent them).
Political violence is less often about challenging misrule and more often about subversion.
PalmTreesOnSkellige@reddit
Paywall, cmon! Please someone share.
Ket406@reddit
If you copy and paste the link into the search bar on archive.ph , you should be able to read it.
PalmTreesOnSkellige@reddit
Thanks I ended up doing that.
Does everybody else here just happen to have an Axious subscription or do they just read the headlines?
Apprehensive-Dust240@reddit
No one actually gives a shit about the election, rioting will only happen if the economy tanks and the govt refuses to help
Bozhark@reddit
Do something about it, eh?
Maybe like make examples of the ballot box arsons?
Helmidoric_of_York@reddit
Based on 1/6, they have every reason to be.
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
I mean that one with the bomb is probably safe from the violence. But pretty boys in suits not so much.
Umbiefretz@reddit
Con is the opposite of Pro
Therefore Congress is the opposite of Progress
—Gallagher
boomboomclap3000@reddit
Arrest all perps. End of story
WillBottomForBanana@reddit
Remember who they did and did not tear gas in 2020/2021.
ace1131@reddit
VOTE TRUMP
idunnoiforget@reddit
I want my generals to be like Hitler's generals. Oh Kim Jon Un he's brilliant wouldn't you believe it all his generals respect him. And I've never seen such a beautiful thing they respect him they don't protest what he wants. And Russia Putin is amazing his people listen to him too. If I were president now the war in Ukraine would have never happened. I'll end it within a day when I become president I could even end it now before I'm president. Why can't we have generals like Putin and Kim. You know I will protect you I'll make NATO pay their fair share and if they don't Russia can do whatever the hell they want.
I'll put tarrifs on the Chinese manufactures they'll have to pay to sell goods here. 200% tarrifs it will make us rich it will bring manufacturing back to America it will be beautiful and you know if we don't do those tarrifs everywhere will end up like Detroit. I'm going to make China pay and we're going to bring manufacturing back. The immigrants are taking the jobs. Wouldn't you believe it all these people seeking asylum they bring them in from mental institutions.
I think we should take the guns first and then do due process second but I will protect your second amendment rights I'm the only one who could. And wouldn't you know abortion the women won't have to worry about it anymore I brought it back to the states like everyone wanted. The economy it's bad if communist Kamala wins we'll have a great depression. Look at the markets now they're terrible (definitely not at all time highs)
fixingmedaybyday@reddit
So much Russian propaganda getting the best of all sides. The only way we fall as a nation is frim within and the American people are eating it hook line and sinker.
aBlackKing@reddit
This has been a problem that has existed since at least the early 2010s and Russia and China have been caught red handed fomenting unrest especially during the 2020 riots. Either we learn to respect each other or this problem gets even worse and a full blown civil war occurs and destabilization occurs throughout the world which Russia and China want so they can enact their own imperialism unabated.
rmscomm@reddit
Maybe the current members shouldn't have been divided on what happened on Jan 6th 🤓. Also they could have done their jobs and actually codified processes and regulations that could prevent future incidents including themselves and colleagues as being culpable. 😜
gutslice@reddit
Here we go again lol
Snaz5@reddit
If they were really afraid they would’ve done something to help prevent it sometime inTHE LAST 4 YEARS.
There’s nothing that goes together quite like “lazy and incompetent” and “Congress”
Whooptidooh@reddit
The entire world is clinching their collective cheeks this election, because if trump wins, it will become a fascistic dictatorship. If he loses, they’ll say this election was rigged and they will try to do a coup to gain power that way.
Either way, this will be a shit show. I really hope (and every sane person with me here in The Netherlands) Harris/Walz will win. If not, the US is in deep trouble. (And let’s be real, the mere fact that the republicans aren’t even trying to hide their fascism anymore says a lot; there have been problems for a while now.)
Gentleman-vinny@reddit
Either person wins there will be some paid protestors will be out there. So it doesn’t matter. Worry some part, will be the very few bad actors that will mask behind the peaceful protests.
tianavitoli@reddit
well they have that secret servisssssssssss... oh
px7j9jlLJ1@reddit
FUD