I'm sadly tired of loud cars
Posted by imaboringdude@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 784 comments
I'm ready and expect all the downvotes. Let me preface this by saying I've always been into cars from when I was a child. I love working on them, driving them, watching them. For whatever reason, when I was a kid I don't remember cars being this obnoxiously loud, or they were and I didn't mind them at all. Now I'm in college and live in an apartment surrounded by a bunch of other buildings, and when loud cars gun it through the street it just echoes and wakes me up/ my roommates up.
Same deal with the parking garage. When people intentionally rev up their cars with loud ass exhausts, especially the ones that pop, man it sucks. I hate hearing that at 8 am in the morning. I've kind of grown to despise them, which makes me bummed because I feel like I'm supposed to like them considering I love rowing through the gears on a wide open road outside the city in a car with a great sounding engine/exhaust. Plus I feel like a lot of people already have a negative image of the car community and this doesn't seem to be helping with that.
So I don't know, I feel like I'm getting old somehow, when I'm only 21. Do people actually find it enjoyable? Or is it only the driver who likes hearing it? I just can't get behind exhausts making it sound like someone is shooting a gun in the parking garage.
prop65-warning@reddit
The older you get the more you will like quiet. At least thats how I feel about it.
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
Nah, I’m getting older and more deaf, I turn everything way up!
stormymutt@reddit
Wow I wonder why you're going deaf
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
Yes and no. I still love hearing a nice exhaust, even if it's loud. I just don't like people being assholes with their noise, now. There's times and places for it. Unfortunately there's more inconsiderate people now who don't care.
Practical_Ladder9450@reddit
Hiya! I agree, but maybe I can help with some context. The guys driving around these loud cars are by and large men who are struggling; particularly with their romantic/sexual interests. Loud cars/muscle cars have become a way for (we call them “down low” in the gay cis male community) down low gay men to identify each other and find intimate partners. Kind of a new hanky code, or cruising signal to say “hey! I’m over here and I’m like you!”
It’s why you hear them late at night. It’s why you rarely see more than one person in them. It’s why you see them particularly concentrated in conservative/traditional communities that are less accepting of LGBTQ folks.
I’m not saying it’s right to disrupt our communities in this way… but I think we can have some sympathy that these are folks who are struggling, and don’t feel safe being themselves in their community or at home. They’re looking for connection, and this is how they’re finding it.
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Haha this is hilarious
Necessary-Praline-53@reddit
I have often wondered about that. I am a gearhead myself, and have noted that when researching mufflers the customer reviews refer to "great sound" they are really saying "loud as you can legally get away with."
ExplosiveMachine@reddit
This take is milder than my decaf morning coffee. Sound quality > sound quantity, always. half the population has it the other way around, and we suffer for it, but that's how it is.
RevvedUpLikeADeuce09@reddit
This. Loud cars are nice when they sound good. Loud cars are terrible if they sound like crap and you multiply the sound by 4 Honda Civics dragging at two in the morning in the suburbs.
-GenlyAI-@reddit
No even loud cars that sound good are terrible on the street as most people don't give two craps to hear it. And most the time it's just attention seeking.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Who cares if other people want to hear it, why should people who enjoy the sound not get to enjoy their own cars. I hate how most loud cars sound (I detest how v6s sound) but they’re entitled to mod their cars as they wish just as much as you or I
Nyxlo@reddit
Same reason as why I shouldn't enjoy driving my car 20 below the speed limit in the left lane. It's very annoying to everyone besides you, and you're not the center of the world.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Yes that is annoying but there’s nothing I can do about it so why bother worrying about it 🤷♂️ I’m still gonna do what makes me happy the same way the left lane parkers will still do their bs regardless of what I have to say about it. Life’s a lot more pleasurable when you stop worrying about the world and start focusing on yourself
SavoyTruffleGeorge@reddit
Lmfao my god redditors are some of the smuggest and most obnoxious people in existence. You're the living embodiment of a fedora
Oddblivious@reddit
A car being loud and ridiculous can be fun for some people.
-GenlyAI-@reddit
Yeah and rolling coal fun for some, totally not just "look at me I need attention" culture.
Miatalustrium@reddit
Yep. Love hearing a great Mustang GT exhaust, despite it being loud. Hate hearing someone's shitty, $200 Temu fart can exhaust on a 97 Civic Si. There is a BMW 5 series that passes my work nearly every day and they have the most obnoxious pop/bang tuned exhaust. It literally shakes the windows and can be heard from over half a mile away from the back of my dealership's spare lot.
solidnitrogen@reddit
It any charger/challenger nowadays. Sound like absolute shit
NuclearDuck92@reddit
V6’s will do that
MidlandDog@reddit
v6 might do that
if u use a mile or two of runner length u can make i6 sounds with them
MidlandDog@reddit
v6 might do that
if u use a mile or two of runner length u can make i6 sounds with them
mini4x@reddit
The Pentastar V6 is one of the worst sounding engines ever, so many Jeeps around me with aftermarket exhausts, the sound is so bad.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
Meh, most widely produced V6’s sound bad, it’s not what they’re made for.
The Pentastar is still a great engine IMO. 90’s/2000’s technology with 2010s production quality makes for a pretty reliable package, especially when it’s not paired with that stupid ZF 9-speed.
6-plus26@reddit
lol whattttt??? The 3.6 is so bad it has different failures and similar failures depending on what heep it’s put in. I write service tickets and fiat largely keeps the lights on and when they come in more often than not it’s a 3.6. Pick a make pick a year it doesn’t matter
All anecdotes but you have experience at scale that says otherwise?
NuclearDuck92@reddit
I don’t have data at scale, only anecdotes from my own experience, and those haven’t brought a single engine-related issue for the 3.6 or 3.2
I suspect that scale may be the issue here. They put that engine in everything, and have for well over a decade. On sheer volume, I’m not surprised that there are a still a large number of failures.
Mile-for-mile, I would bet that it’s still pretty good, especially among US domestic platforms.
6-plus26@reddit
You work in the industry or solely from ownership? And amidst domestic options I’m sure some of the later iterations would rank highly but idk that thats saying much.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
Only from ownership among my own family, friends, coworkers, friends, etc.
If there is actual data out there, I’d find it pretty interesting either way. Perception among those that I know, along with their Mopar enthusiast circles, is that it’s one of the more solid platforms they’ve made.
I know I would take a 3.2 over a 2.4 Multiair any day.
xamdou@reddit
It's the V8s that really sound like shit.
They are a dime a dozen in the Detroit area, so there's nothing unique or cool about them.
They all sound the same, so you get the 2 digit IQ crowd that thinks they need to be as loud as possible.
Standard-Potential-6@reddit
The sound is my least favorite part of my car right now, but this is pretty funny coming from a BRZ, lmao. Less people straight pipe them at least.
It's my least favorite thing about my car right now.
V8s are rarer here and novel to me, so I love the gentle burble and the cam shaking the shifter, but overall it's just a bit rough and uninteresting outside of certain sweet spots in the rev range. There's no need to make this much louder than factory, other than to be so deafened you can't hear any off notes.
'15-20 GT350s though... my favorite sound.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
That’s one of the only American flat crank V8’s that I know of, yeah they sound so much better than all of these cross-crank truck engines that manufacturers insist on putting in “sports cars”
Standard-Potential-6@reddit
Can't really turn up my nose at anything light, powerful, and reliable.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
Generation matters here IMO, I think the current FA24-powered BRZ sounds considerably better than the old ones stock.
xamdou@reddit
I have my exhaust stock. I don't need it to be loud.
I went from an STI with an aftermarket exhaust to the peaceful quiet of the BRZ. I have no need to be loud again.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
I think the FA24 sounds pretty good stock, you can make it be loud-ish if you want, but it’s not overly obtrusive outside of cold starts.
I’m with you on the need to be loud. If I did anything to the exhaust on my VB WRX, it would be something like Borla’s that reduces the drone at low-mid revs more than anything else.
Mental_Medium3988@reddit
At least you don't have the douchbags who have a hellcat and Rev it up just trying to be as annoying to everyone else as possible innthe middle of a weekday night.
xamdou@reddit
Oh we have them. There's quite a lot of them.
NuclearDuck92@reddit
Yeah, cross-crank V8s don’t really do anything for me either.
__chairmanbrando@reddit
Far too many people think these underpowered boats without an LSD are sports cars. 🙄
CommissionNo1931@reddit
You're telling me the Charger is not a sport car?
__chairmanbrando@reddit
In V6 form with no LSD? Yeah, IMO, it doesn't qualify. 4200+ pounds, 260 torques, and handles like a boat. It's a "cruiser" if anything.
UnnamedStaplesDrone@reddit
It’s not a sports car with a v8 either. Nor is it intended to be
J-MAMA@reddit
No, it's a big ass four door sedan.
mastawyrm@reddit
My tundra is more of a sports car than a V6 charger
liftwaffles@reddit
With the V6? Nah, its a barge
RAZGRIZTP@reddit
Drag racing is a sport
__chairmanbrando@reddit
Drag racing a heavy and underpowered car without an LSD isn't a sport. It's public nuisance.
Frohblak@reddit
There are plenty of Chargers that are legit quick
__chairmanbrando@reddit
Context clues, my guy. I'm talking about the baseline V6 Chargers that people get when they can't afford anything legitimate but still want something big and "cool" to annoy the neighborhood with. They are hardly any better than all the piece of shit Nissan Altimas rolling around out there.
inoua5dollarservices@reddit
Why are the loud ones always V6s? And why do their drivers think everyone wants to race them at red lights?
420DNR@reddit
Same intelligence level to buy a v6 boat straight pipes it. A lot of straight piped v8s sound like shit too
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Straight piped v8s do not sound like shit who tf lied to you
420DNR@reddit
Turbo straight pipe or straight pipe straight pipe? The latter just sounds like " RAAAAAA", which is cool in context of racing, so racetracks or dragstrips. Think f150s with catback empty pipes, it's stupid and they can't go over 1500 rpm without breaking the sound barrier
Turbo acts as a muffler, had a TDI that I did it to
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Mines a Turbo-back (catless w muffler/resonator delete) straight pipe and I think it sounds great. Yeah the turbos are a muffler but it’s so much better when you have a roaring v8 that also gives you that sweet turbo whistle esp when you combine it w cold air intakes. I can’t speak on the F150s cos I don’t know enough about truck engines (except the viper 😂) but yeah the cognitive dissonance of loud ass lifted trucks moving at the pace of a snail is hilarious
tagrav@reddit
And now VQ Nissans/Infinities are like the Honda civics of shit boxes kids fix up of yesteryear.
obeytheturtles@reddit
Counterpoint - no car sounds good at 6am on a Saturday morning.
alek_vincent@reddit
It's way cheaper for teenagers to make their shitboxes loud than it is to make them sound good. Most of them will eventually grow out of it. It's the cycle of life
Mental_Medium3988@reddit
For me I wouldn't mind living near a racetrack as racecars usually sound good. Or at least i think id like it. Every dumbass with a ecoboost pickup makes for an annoying time when you're trying to watch TV or game or go to sleep or just think for a few seconds.
Slayer7_62@reddit
100%. I love the sound of my 500 Abarth stock, it’s just a very well designed exhaust. I can’t stand the dipshit who lives a couple houses away from my parents who straight piped his supercharged camaro and put some ridiculous tune on it.
When people specifically set up their exhaust just to be louder all they’re doing is making more sound.
C-C-X-V-I@reddit
I was shocked how good those sound when a couple I knew got a pair. Slow as shit but neither of them ever had an issue with them either.
Slayer7_62@reddit
I’m not sure I’d say they’re slow as shit but they’re sure as hell not going to win any drag races. They’d be quicker to 60 if first gear wasn’t so long and they had a proper mechanical limited slip instead of the e-diff that uses the brakes. Unsafe, impractical as all hell and doesn’t like keeping its wheels on the ground… reminds me a lot of a go kart bred with a motorcycle to be honest.
extravisual@reddit
Loud cars sound nice in an appropriate context. No car sounds nice when I'm trying to sleep or simply exist in a public space while being able to hear my own thoughts.
Frohblak@reddit
Honestly, no they aren’t. There is no version of a loud car that sounds nice. They all are equally annoying.
Fragrant_Wedding4577@reddit
Loud cars sound like shit, period, to people that don't give a f about it which is probably most people. Except it's being subjected to everyone like a screaming infant on a plane.
racks1700@reddit
I’d argue the L15 in the Si sounds considerably better than the R
Woreo12@reddit
Buddy of mine swears by volume > quality and I hate it. Anything with an engine he has the first thing done is immediately straight piped and he will sit outside and just rev the piss out of it no reason
gurneyguy101@reddit
Heyy nice car ;)
ExplosiveMachine@reddit
I'm selling it today :( sad to see it go. But definitely the best driving, looking and sounding car I've ever had! I can recommend an invidia exhaust, easily the best sounding system for the rx8.
gurneyguy101@reddit
Nooo how come??
And nice, if I had the money I would :( How much are they second hand?
I got a bypass valve on my stock exhaust though at least, that was only £200
ExplosiveMachine@reddit
The previous owner contacted me if I'd sell it back to her. It's hard finding a buyer that knows what they're doing, but she took great care of the car so I'm happy to sell it back, and cop a small "market adjustment".
I don't know about the british market, but shop around. It really sounds good. Shame about your financial situation, it's definitely better to put money into oil changes and maintenance than mods if you have to choose. You probably know, but run minimum 10w40 oil, not lower than that, and only half the oil drains per oil change - i changed the oil at 5000km.
gurneyguy101@reddit
Yeahh it’s really time I change my oil and other stuff like that, I’m hoping to do it and my oil filter etc myself
I’m on 10w40 at the moment, mostly as that’s the my previous owner used/recommended
That’s interesting the previous owner contacted you, did they just really miss it then?
ExplosiveMachine@reddit
yep, they did. I mean, we're friends anyway, so I got it for a good price, and she got it for a good price back and that was that.
The filter is a massive PITA, it's behind the engine above the transmission and if it's tight at all you'll need some kind of oil filter tool to get it undone, but there's not enough space for the cup-and-spanner type, you'll need a band one.
gurneyguy101@reddit
Oh Christ right thanks for the heads up, I haven’t done any real mechanical work on a car by myself yet, so I’m nervous but excited. I’ve done similar stuff with my dad on tractors and k11 micras but they’re very easy to work on
That’s nice you’ve traded it back - what are you planning to replace it with? :)
Seymour_Tamzarian@reddit
Nailed it.
I don’t care what time it is in the morning or night, if I’m in a good mood or bad mood, I will never not love the wail of an Italian V12 or scream of a flat-plane V8 or whatever done right.
Whatcanyado420@reddit
90% of the population wouldn’t agree.
Seamus-Archer@reddit
This is a car enthusiast sub, not the general population.
Nyxlo@reddit
I would consider myself a car enthusiast to some degree, and I dislike engine sound in general. I hate that when I see a nice Lamborghini, 10 seconds later it proceeds to sound like it just shat itself.
I really like supercharger whine, though.
strongmanass@reddit
But unlike many other hobbies, being a car enthusiast necessarily involves engaging with the general population because we all use shared resources. So a little self-awareness and consideration goes a long way.
datsboi@reddit
General population adores EV.
tagrav@reddit
Yeah that’s why I get the fuck out of the left most lane when someone faster than me is pacing up behind me.
Secuter@reddit
Sure, but this particular topic is about noise pollution that also affects the general population.
Secret_Physics_9243@reddit
Here's what most people get wrong, we don't want vacum cleaners, we just want quality in the sound.
tubawhatever@reddit
I think loud exhausts are still usually obnoxious, no matter the sound quality.
I was in Verona for the opera festival back in 2021, where operas are performed inside the Roman arena in the city center. The festival almost always closes with a performance of Aida, of which the 1st half is triumphant and the 2nd half is depressing. Lots of people leave during the intermission before act 3, which in this case included the entire group of Ferrari and Lamborghini owners who get to park their cars just outside because they're wealthy (no one else gets to park in the square outside). So several minutes into act 3 during a famous aria from the female lead, they all fire up their cars and rev them for a few minutes before leaving. Are they nice sounding engines? Sure. Did anyone but these self-absorbed assholes care about that at the moment? No.
strongmanass@reddit
The Grand Tour parodied that in their Italian "Grand Tour" where Hammond did donuts in a Hellcat outside an opera house while Clarkson and May drove British "gentleman's cars".
djsnoopmike@reddit
The C8 Z06 sounds absolutely fantastic. Even when it woke me up, I was glad to be woken to the sound of heaven
Unique-Egg-461@reddit
I spent quite a bit on my exhaust exactly because of this. didnt want my '66 mustang sounding like every other H piped v8 with magnaflows or flowmasters
x-piped with spintechs. god i fucking love the sound of it
shattervca@reddit
Yep. I deleted my exhaust and let the engine be heard…. It’s not over the top
IAmJacksSphincter@reddit
Deleting an exhaust is over the top. Few engines sound good without some sort of mufflers on it. It’s just loud for the sake of being loud.
shattervca@reddit
The LS3 sounds great.
strongmanass@reddit
Not for you as the driver inside the car with sound deadening. For me as a pedestrian, yes it's over the top.
FictionalContext@reddit
Modern Honda is superior to 90's Honda. Smart sensible automobiles at a reasonable price.
mini4x@reddit
Meh, 90s Honda was peak Hinda, now the cars are fat and bloated, I miss the simple yet dead reliable cars of the 90s.
And that you forgot your key be-be-be-beep.
Jimbenas@reddit
Honda reliability has suffered a bit. I still think their NA engines are a decent buy though. They've gotten more expensive, but they're also helping keep the market for not-SUV cars alive. I'd say they're about equal considering a lot of their cars are a lot less "sporty".
FictionalContext@reddit
Please don't be reasonable when I'm trying to be inflammatory...😇
Jimbenas@reddit
my bad
HONDA FUCKING SUCKS RICER SHIT CARS
btw I have a max burble setting on my car I use for school zones (no law saying I can't)
absoluteshallot@reddit
YOU’RE WRONG AND EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS TERRIBLE
…better?
No_Season_354@reddit
They all have even Toyota and Lexus are having reliability issues.
Jimbenas@reddit
That engine recall was pretty bad but im pretty sure the Sexus v6s and v8s are holding up well since they're NA.
Larcya@reddit
Which is why basically every Harley sounds like ass. They want the loudest sound possible and don't give a shit about how it actually sounds.
SpaceRaver42@reddit
10000% agree.
I'm an audiophile who used to have a $12k home theater.
It's about the quality. I'm currently looking for an exhaust for my 1.8 NA Miata, but it's difficult without hearing the exhausts in person because I don't care about volume, I care about crispness. Because of this, I loathe straight-pipes and any exhaust with rasp, as that's basically akin to distortion, to me.
I want to hear my exhaust & like it, but only when the radio is off.
Tl;dr, this is this best take.
That said, Track cars are a different story
Probably_daydreaming@reddit
I agree with this, an exhaust loud for the sake of being loud is like a dog with all bark no bite. You can sometimes tell that they just swapped out the exhaust to sound loud and nothing else done on the car.
NSXelrate@reddit
Why not both? :) Case-in-point: even firing V10 Gallardo with test pipes and exhaust sounds like an F1 car. 125 dB cold start.
moonRekt@reddit
Yep that’s where I’m at, balancing turbo/intake/exhaust noises
willis936@reddit
Flat 6 with unequal length exhaust headers and V8s are musical. I'll never afford a porsche though and that's okay.
PGleo86@reddit
But you could always get a Subaru ;)
(I'm definitely biased)
CETERIS_PARTYBUS@reddit
I always thought “hot take” implies temperature not spiciness. I would call this a tepid take.
beforesunsetearth@reddit
Agreed. As the owner of a modern era VW, I felt it necessary to pick the right exhaust setup. The result is a noise machine that has reci received nearly universal praise.
PsychologyYorkStu23@reddit
Sucks, gna go make mine louder tomorrow 😃😃😄
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Apart-Intern8031@reddit
I will throw beer bottles next time someone comes down my street with a fart can
phunkarino@reddit
22yrs old here w/ a 6m old that wakes up when ya knees crack. I didn’t mind loud cars, motorcycles, trucks, ya name it. Til one day a motorcycle flew by my truck and damn near blew my windows out and woke up my daughter.. after trying so hard to just let her sleep, she wakes up screaming.. so yeah fuck motorcycles that are obnoxiously loud.
vijayjito@reddit
It’s possible to have a car sound fantastic without being loud
Coochie-man420@reddit
I don’t entirely hate loud cars especially given I’m at a place where I would expect to hear loud cars but I do hate when I’m just minding my business somewhere and hear a guy going crazy in like the middle of the day. I really just feel like there are good times and bad times for a car to be loud and some people just don’t think so
Much-Raisin6167@reddit
Won’t last long, EVs will take over
Carstuff392@reddit
I was at the drag strip last night and just smh at how insanely loud some of the newer cars were.
My car has been 10.40@127 through the exhaust before. I promise you couldn’t hear it do a burnout next to some of the loud ass LT Camaros that were at the track last night.
Lover_zone@reddit
I can understand that! The constant noise from loud cars can be really draining, especially in busy areas or when you're craving some peace. Electric vehicles (EVs) are a great alternative if you want a quieter driving experience. Their engines are almost silent, making for a more calming environment.
jaelyn_123@reddit
i totally understand where ur coming from. i hate the shitting sounding ones that make me want to plug my ears. i like loud exhaust but not the shitting dumb somedoing ones that i can mimic with my mouth. i like the deep roar that’s not so obnoxious. i hope i can achieve that with my own car as well. i want to have a good sounds exhaust. not one that people think is annoying.
FirmlyThatGuy@reddit
That’s why I have a dual mode exhaust on my Vette. Loud only when I want it; with the valves closed it’s as quiet as a family sedan even though I’m pushing 700+ whp.
Technology is dope.
Vhozite@reddit
It’s crazy to me the valves exhausts aren’t more common. Everybody gets what they want lol.
TrptJim@reddit
I got an active exhaust for my Miata, and it was a good 50%-100% more expensive than the non-active exhausts I was looking at.
Being able to go quiet when needed, worth it. And I can adjust the valve opening at specific throttle positions, or just turn it completely on or off.
Odd-Refrigerator-425@reddit
Dumb question but how is it controlled when an its an aftermarket thing? Do they just mod in a dial/switch into the dash somewhere, or is it software driven via your phone or something else?
TrptJim@reddit
There's a component that plugs into the ODB2 port, that hijacks the CANBUS signal for the auto-wiper sensitivity knob.
With auto-wipers off, the 5 adjustment increments turn into OFF/10%/50%/90%/ON for the bypass valve, with the percentage being the throttle position.
It doesn't conflict with auto-wipers when on, each keeping its setting when switched to it.
DavoinShowerHandel1@reddit
That actually sounds like a pretty incredible setup for one guy who I'm guessing doesn't do it for a living. People amaze me with their ingenuity and ability to just dream things up, I've got a buddy like that. My expertise begins and ends at installing pre-made parts lol.
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
While obviously it's still very useful, I find it hilarious when a valve exhaust is used on something small without much power.
TrptJim@reddit
Oh it cracks me up. Pulling up to a Corvette and seeing the reaction to a sudden roar from a Miata of all things is a hoot.
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
Fuckin' lol. That would be great. I'm imagining it like going from this to something meaner.
LaFagehetti@reddit
Being able to adjust it to throttle position is actually really freaking cool. Ima look into it now, thanks mate 🤝
Dressieren@reddit
Valved exhausts are also another moving part that can cause a point of failure. If you’re gonna get one you’re going to need to spend more money and people would generally rather pick one and stick with it than risk adding another point of failure that might go wrong. I don’t know about the failure rates but what I do know is that it’s almost double the cost for a catback for an STI if I wanted to go valved.
Bortjort@reddit
loved it on my 1991 VR4
JayBee58484@reddit
Usually more expensive and a good chunk of people modifying cars prefer to buy cheaper shit. Doesn't bother me personally but it's one of those complaints that's always made sense
iroll20s@reddit
I want to do that to mine sometime. It'd be nice to have the factory cans for the drive to the track and then switch to cutouts once there so I hear the engine over open windows, a helmets and other real loud cars near me.
antaphar@reddit
Yeah, love them. Keep them closed for startup and when in the neighborhood. Open them when out of the neighborhood.
Seamus-Archer@reddit
Yep, love the NPP on my C7. Pull the fuse and it’s nice and rowdy or pop the fuse back in for road trips.
Jaboogada@reddit
Got the valved exhaust on my Veloster too. On some Jekyll and Hyde shit
usaguy480@reddit
That's why I owe 3 cars one is my daily fully stock and quet, second car is straight pipe hood exit exhaust, 3rd one is full performance exhaust from the headers to the back also straight piped but it's not as loud so I do have 3 types of sound in all of my 3 cars so I can enjoy all of them
Protholl@reddit
Straight piped Infinitis, Hondas with fart cannons and so much more (nuisances). Me too OP. Me too.
GabRB26DETT@reddit
I'm genuinely considering a Varex exhaust just because I'm now tired of how loud my car is lol
The_Neon_Bull@reddit
I'd rather have the horsepower without 'advertising' it.
Ivor-Ashe@reddit
I always hope for an explosion when I hear them around the town. Selfish a-holes
Responsible-Ad-460@reddit
Our taste in life start to change, we all have different phases.
ajrf92@reddit
Depending on the context it could be enjoyable or a pain in the ass, especially when you're sleeping.
No-Quantity9916@reddit
Maturing is realizing intake noises are way better than exhaust.
MidlandDog@reddit
its modern exhausts and engines i think
they all just sound poo and make bad sound
anything on a carby with a cut exhaust sounds fine to me
but u can stick all the new v6 supercars where the sun doesnt shine, cant make a good exhaust on a v6 without half a mile of runner length
MycroftHolmesVI@reddit
Everyone hates burble tunes....they just don't know it yet
Beni_Stingray@reddit
Burble tunes yes, absolutly stupid. Actual natural burbles because of big valve overlap, lovely.
MrViking524@reddit
My 72 chevy truck has this. It fuel injected now so i worry less about large bang noises. But it bubbles and pops, and on deccel it sound like it has 500 galloping ponys. Some days when im driving, i really wish it was quieter... only sometimes tho. Being my daily, when im dropping my mother in law off at her house, at 7pm, on a thursday night... "like shhhh" or also leaving for work at 6am, idling @530 in winter....
When im getting on the freeway and it pops between shifts, and then im doing 75 in 3rd grabbing 4th.. then it's great just amazing, absolutely necessary
HippocratesII_of_Kos@reddit
I put a cai on my 2009 Silverado, and I’m pretty sure it would bubble and pop a little if it was a little less restricted, cause I can already hear it every once in a while being otherwise stock.
Beni_Stingray@reddit
Yeah old us cars are great with that, same as high reving engines where its necessary for good chamber filling and flooding.
obeytheturtles@reddit
Lovely until it's the first day you've had off in three weeks and you just want to sleep in.
mini4x@reddit
My Speed Triple did this, completly stock had a nice run-down burble / pop that was so satisfying.
OldManBearPig@reddit
I don't think there's a single triple from any manufacturer that I haven't loved. I've never owned one, but I have considered an MT-09 many times.
mini4x@reddit
Coworker has a MT09 pretty nice ride.
np20412@reddit
Cheers in LC500 :D
HippocratesII_of_Kos@reddit
I like a little bit of burble like a good BMW has. But I don’t like it to sound like a wet fart. Just a subtle sporty bubble.
Cheese_Sleeze@reddit
I had a burble tune on a WRX once... within a week, I was shelling out $250 to have another tune done with it removed. I also had a "burble" tube on a supercharged Mustang gt. It wasn't a pop bang one, though it was a low, deep gargling sound that was pretty sweet.
I found as I get older I went from "glass pack should do" to "is this exhaust system I'm putting on my car quiet enough to not piss my neighbors off and my wife will still ride with me?"
Joneywatermelon@reddit
I had a 2000 mustang gt that somehow naturally had the best burble exhaust. Not too loud, sounded amazing. Pretty sure it just had flow master mufflers welded in. The car was slow and a pos but it really sounded great.
Asid94@reddit
That 4.6 sounds amazing.
intern_steve@reddit
The secret to a great note is moving as little air as possible through the heads. Apparently. I have a straight piped 4.6 that doesn't move much. Sounds incredible (too loud, though), but has no ponies.
Your_mom_likes_BBC@reddit
Some piece of shit Tweaker stole the cat off of my 5.4 and now it sounds like a bad bitch
KMFDM781@reddit
Mustang V8s always sounded amazing. All bark and no bite, but who cares? They sound incredible.
_Bizwup_@reddit
No bite? Idk about all that
Your_mom_likes_BBC@reddit
5.0 HO had the best sound
nondescriptzombie@reddit
I pulled the exhaust off of my Crown Vic to do some work and started it up with it disconnected.
Sounded mean as hell, and not even overly loud.
captainnowalk@reddit
I had dual flowmasters on my modded grand marquis, and god damn did that car sound beautiful every time I started it up. I miss it a lot sometimes…
UnnamedStaplesDrone@reddit
Stock exhaust on the GTs have it. No obnoxious pops or bangs but it does burble on decel.
k_bucks@reddit
I just got a 2005 GT and the previous owner put Flowmaster mufflers on it. It just has a nice low burble when you're decelerating but doesn't backfire.
We live near a street that is known for cruising and there are tons of stright piped muscle cars and popcorn tunes all the time. I can't stand it, but the Mustang 4.6 with Flowmasters sounds really nice.
Home_Bwah@reddit
I had an 03 Mach 1 with Bassani exhaust from the headers back. Man I loved the way that thing sounded. I got so many compliments. Awesome low burble. Made a lot of noise didn’t go anywhere lol. But I love the Ford V8 sound.
liebereddit@reddit
The stock Mustang GT in 2000 was supposed to do 0 to 60 in 5.5 seconds. Was something wrong with yours or do you consider 5.5 seconds slow?
TheTallDog@reddit
Wait seriously? I knew they weren't exactly fast back then but wow
C-C-X-V-I@reddit
God I'd forgotten how slow they were back then lol
tubawhatever@reddit
I think my favorite cars for "natural" burbles are some of the old European cars with K-Jet or KE-Jet. My 190E always burbled on deceleration and it really wasn't obnoxious, but probably did it because it was slightly over fueling. Why I say some K-Jet/KE-Jet cars is a friend has a DeLorean I've done a ton of work on ($25k+) and boy does it sound like shit. The DeLorean version of the PRV V6 is odd fire and sounds totally awful, doesn't matter what exhaust anyone has designed for it, always dreadful. One of the cars that I think an EV conversion makes a lot of sense.
NoltyCS@reddit
Those have to be some of my favorite sounding cars. I had an ‘03 GT that I bought straight piped, I immediately put a catted H-Pipe and Borla exhaust on and it sounded so much quieter/better instead of just being loud to be loud.
Outlaw6985@reddit
best natural burble exhaust is the mac prochamber
ChuckoRuckus@reddit
A crossplane 90 degree v8 tends to have a natural “burble”… though most call it lope.
np20412@reddit
this is why I'm shelling out for the valvetronic. Best of both worlds, but at significant upcharge.
InvincibleDandruff@reddit
I had a bike in the past that popped at EVERY decelerations. The first week was fun. After a month, not so much. When I sent the ECU in to be flashed, I asked for no pop and bang.
Wakenbacon05@reddit
The way to do it is with a valved exhaust and selectable tune. My S5 can pop/bang/burble all day but i can also change the tune while driving and close the valves and you would just think it’s a normal car under normal load. Cold starts are loud for about 10 seconds then the valves close. Not ideal for the neighbors sure, but im not ready to give it up. And also just drive my daily when i need to go places early morning or late night.
FesteringNeonDistrac@reddit
My wife hates my Mazdaspeed 3 with OEM exhaust. Not even that loud, although I do have full 85 durometer mounts, so it does transfer a good bit of NVH.
jondes99@reddit
That stock exhaust just keeps getting louder and louder in my experience. The few times my wife would drive mine, I was shocked at how loud it was from outside the car.
Navaros313@reddit
Are you absolutely sure all the connected devices and piping are functioning correctly and without holes or beginning to rust through? I had a flex pipe go bad on my Malibu that in turn ruined my resonator. If things are going bad and metal is thinning and creating (or starting to or will create) holes, that increases your sound volume.
FesteringNeonDistrac@reddit
I don't think mine has gotten louder. It's just about right to me where it has a nice little rumble but you can still talk to a passenger. It's right at the outside edge of that though. Maybe check for a leak on yours?
LogicWavelength@reddit
I am having a mid-life crisis. I have a tune on my GTI that I can selectively turn on crackles. Having said that, I only have a large diameter downpipe (with a catalytic converter), and the rest of the exhaust is stock.
When driving with the crackles off, the car sounds amazing (for an EA888). You can tell it’s not stock but it is completely reasonable for quiet neighborhoods.
But when I wanna hear loud, obnoxious noises… I have that option. I am respectful about it, and really only have them turned on when I’m giving it the beans, mostly on exit ramps.
tyfe@reddit
What’s wrong with the midlife crisis? I guess I’m having one too.
LogicWavelength@reddit
GX gang!
I dunno. I always feel so defensive saying “I drive a crackle tune at 40yo” on the internet. Like I gotta apologize for my obnoxious car noises making me smile in the soul-destroying circus performance that is two working parents with children in this economy.
tyfe@reddit
Both my wife and I work too and we have 3 kids, hence the minivan. If the crackle tune makes you happy for a minute away from the work responsibilities and parenting responsibilities and adulting responsibilities fuck what they think.
Navaros313@reddit
That's why I cut off my Ford fusion muffler and bolted on the cherrybomb turbo I got for my previous previous car. Never made it on either but it's on my fusion now! When I change my cat'n'o² next year I think I'm gonna get the magnaflow catback or at the very least buy a wider resonator, replace piping and weld the muffler in place. This year is ABS pump (waiting 2 years) and suspension (went bad this year) haha can't wait on these for this winter.
Scandroid99@reddit
Geez u must be a Boomer talkin like that 😂
Give me the long tubes wit Flowmaster dumps and a nasty high lift cam in a 428🤘🤘🤘
C-C-X-V-I@reddit
428 and flows and you're calling him the boomer?
Scandroid99@reddit
Yyyyyyyyyup 😂
cplog991@reddit
I had glasspacks on a suzuki samurai. That was fun 😂
SockeyeSTI@reddit
While I was waiting for a catback for my charger rt I ran it with open down tubes and it burbled really nice.
Droned like a mf though
Styx2592@reddit
Yeah you're being so real here.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Burble tunes are horrendous but natural backfires are beautiful
_galaga_@reddit
I really like the Z4 manual but sport mode engages burble tune and I'd want an aftermarket tune just to shut it the fuck up. Would've been nice to be a configurable feature since it's all software.
strongmanass@reddit
I hated that when I test drove the M850i. Every time you let off the throttle it's the same burble sequence regardless of speed. Ruined a whole neighborhood's Saturday morning.
6-plus26@reddit
Alfa 4c does this. And the car is so small and light and you’re still not moving as fast you’d like
_galaga_@reddit
The artificiality/predictability of it drives my OCD nuts because I can't unhear the programmed sequence. At least use some randomizing code and a bunch of different patterns? Or let me turn it off in settings (even better).
Navaros313@reddit
Or your own. The same sound every time no matter what? That's why I manually shift my automatic,, for fun!
ShawtySayWhaaat@reddit
A little burble is nice.... Maybe a little burble or a single pop
But these ak tunes are fucking stupid
Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit
a slight burble is nice, its when its faked that it sounds bad. I LOVE the little burble on decel of my CB550 after I put a good pipe on it, going on 10 years now, it never gets old.
0_1_1_2_3_5@reddit
The 550 is one of the very few motorcycles that sounds good IMO.
god__cthulhu@reddit
Same on my cbr600, just a slight burble after a tune. chefs kiss
pm_me_coffee_pics@reddit
What about on cars that come with a burble tune from factory, like the new Hyundai N cars?
AFB27@reddit
What I've seen on here is that it really depends on the car. Because people will call that trashy and in the same breath call Turbo S burbles classy. Never understood that.
I love my factory burbles. Makes the car that much more exciting in sport plus.
lowstrife@reddit
It makes me really happy to see how widely upvoted this is. By a huge margin.
DrivingBusiness@reddit
Oh dude, same. They’re just terrible. I feel like sometime in the last decade or so, a car sounding loud became synonymous with a car sounding good.
saturnuranusmars@reddit
I always thought bubble tunes were cheap copies of the real thing. Which was backfire with shifts from actual fast cars.
nbaumg@reddit
It’s true. I grew out of mine on the BMW.
(Wasn’t exactly a burble tune but there’s pretty loud burbles and pops when you upgrade exhaust on the b58)
Diabolus_IpseSum@reddit
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HippocratesII_of_Kos@reddit
Man, I’m in the same boat. I’m 21 and I used to like loud cars. Maybe it’s just not cool anymore because they’re everywhere now. From ricers and junky v6 Cameros, to overly loud trucks that sound like they’re just lugging everywhere they go. I still like the sound of truly powerful cars and trucks, in the right place at the right time. But I’m starting to prefer the quiet sophisticated exhaust that has a little dirty secret, and you get to hear it when it gets stepped on. But yeah, noise is everywhere these days and quiet moments are hard to come by. Man… I feel like I sound like my 80-year-old grandfather.
EquivalentFun9380@reddit
Same here bro, I’m 21, and as a kid I loved the sound out nice loud exhausts, although at times I was scared of them. Now it’s just too much for my told folks and myself. Which is why I got a “Quite” exhaust, a little louder than oem but sounds nice.
CarobJumpy6993@reddit
If it's the muscle cars I don't mind it's the jap tuner cars that sound like a weedwacker that are the annoying ones. And they ones that tune them to sound like it farts when it's slowing down... Don't know why that sounds appealing to someone.
Undiscover@reddit
My Veloster N has 3 valve settings. Completely muffled, valve open w/ some burbles, valve open w/ burbles and pops. I find myself driving around in settings 1 or 2 mostly. I have an aftermarket downpipe so the burbles are a bit more pronounced with the valve closed and all the engine settings maxed out. It's perfect IMO. Not ridiculously loud and it sounds great.
menacingmoron97@reddit
Same. 27. I used to want the sports exhaust, the burble tune, the backfires, everything.
Now I value a quiet, rumbling V6 or V8 more than any of that
timtam_z28@reddit
I installed an electric valve on my exhaust right away. Now days I leave it closed. I've never had it open going in or leaving my neighborhood and I put along in any neighborhood; it's flat out rude. I get it. I can't stand cars that are loud to be loud and they don't even sound good.
LSZ350Z@reddit
I feel like we all go thru it as car guys. I hit that point now with my LS2 350z. Cammed and pretty much straight piped. It wasn’t loud to me before, but now I’m annoyed lol I just want to cruise around and listen to music. There’s always that option to get an electric exhaust valve and I plan on getting one at some point.
Don’t be bummed out lol you’re just maturing like the rest of us. Started to hate-ish my loud exhaust at 24yrs old (25 now).
What I hate the most is… sorry for my fellow VQ people… but I absolutely hate straight piped VQ’s or any NA V6. 😭
Relyks954@reddit
Hey now! Alpha Romero has some great sounding na v6’s
LSZ350Z@reddit
I looked it up… I retract my statement 😂 I’m mostly familiar with just the tuner scene.
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velociraptorfarmer@reddit
Used to have a VQ, still have a VQ. They sound like ass without a shitload of resonators.
I had one that sounded amazing, but it had resonated cats and a full true dual catback with another 2 pairs of resonators after the cats.
ThMogget@reddit
What you do with a VQ is an HKS supercharger kit with minimal header work to make power. Purrs like stock except for a slight whine and the bypass valve flutter.
LSZ350Z@reddit
I also had an HKS on my VQ, I loved it so much!
And as much as I wanna say a drag car, its more like a roll race type right now as I’m still on stock axles. I broke 3 axles launching on prepped surface. I am on radials too, so that does not help at all since its a T56 M6 Trans. I drive the Z fairly often, so radials are still road friendly compared to going full slicks… even though I do want to get a set of slicks eventually to get serious with it. A full hit of a 250 shot is not so friendly lol
ThMogget@reddit
Scary! Us drift nuts are only breakin traction while you people break cars! 🚗 ⚙️🛠️
Pr1zzm@reddit
Fellow LS2 here, this is why I've never considered straight piping mine. It's plenty loud with my Borla exhaust but not loud enough to wake up the entire neighborhood unless I seriously rev it. And I keep it under 2k rpms until I hit a main road.
Nhojj_Whyte@reddit
Relatable. I loved the sound quality after just a simple axle-back on my car, and then later I swapped to a slightly bigger downpipe/high flow cat for purely performance reasons, and suddenly it's pretty loud. I don't hate it (yet?) but there are certain moments I recognize I'm being obnoxious to those around me. At least I still think the sound quality is just as good, just more quantity of it.
I joke now that I'm just another kid (25 too) whose car is louder than it is fast 😅
frankztn@reddit
I put a motordyne system in my Z because the previous system was just too loud and raspy when I was 25. Now the motordyne is too loud for me, car was never a daily but I find myself looking for ways to quiet it down while maintaining the sound quality, it looks like the catted ART pipes might be the move but I DO NOT want to deal with the "Demon bolts" again. 😂
LSZ350Z@reddit
It will all catch up to us honestly. I don’t daily drive the Z at all anymore since swapping to the LS. I definitely would not be able to daily drive that thing. My hearing is already bad from working on jets in the air force. I don’t need my Z making it worse lol
Thicccchungus@reddit
Only V6 that gets a pass from me is the J35
Typical_Stormtrooper@reddit
The only person who actually enjoys the sounds is the person who's driving it. I mean there have been some time where I'm say to myself "damn that sounds nice" but it's rare.
Constant-Cable-7497@reddit
The thing is...the person driving it is sitting front left in the car The people suffering from it are behind and right of the car.
I'll die on the hill that if your modified exhaust emits noise capable of causing acute hearing damage to a driver one lane to your right, that your car is forfeited. On the first violation.
Someone driving with their windows down can be within several feet of something emitting well over 100 decibels. It is a nuisance, it is damaging to the health of people around you, it serves no beneficial purpose, and it should be illegal to a draconian level.
old_skool_luvr@reddit
I feel the same way about bikes. They're just as much a RFPITA as the pop-bang bois club.
ILoveTabascoSauce@reddit
Around here the bikes are the WAY worse offenders. Fucking loud ass harleys blasting everyones eardrums for a square mile.
pssiraj@reddit
Dude... I'll never forget driving home from school with my windows down stuck in traffic, and this asshole Harley driver revs HARD right by my open window. My ears were dying.
Bonerchill@reddit
Had this happen to my wife and me in my Miata.
We plugged the ears on our left when they took off from a light, so they slowed down and threw some revs just to watch us wince.
CHP pulled them over a mile ahead.
I slowed down and let out a Nelson-esque “ha ha.”
UnnamedStaplesDrone@reddit
I don’t miss that about the Miata. In fact I miss the car just not convertible aspect. Too many aholes and I hate feeling all out in the open in urban driving.
fomo_addict@reddit
Driving anywhere on the freeway with top down is pure torture. You quickly realize how loud freeways actually are.
UnnamedStaplesDrone@reddit
Yeah freeway top down sucks. Sometimes I would do it with nice weather but definitely wore ear plugs.
LachlantehGreat@reddit
Hello fellow Calgary resident
Rihsatra@reddit
There's one in my neighborhood. It's a small street tucked between two bigger ones. He came through last night blasting it at darn near 22:00. Neighbor at my last house was a huge asshole like that so I think I get irrationally angry because of that person. I'm glad I didn't have my daughter because she would have been sleeping when the guy came through last night.
uberdosage@reddit
Absolutely the worst. I saw a guy who had huge ass speakers attached to his bike too that he had that was somehow as loud as the bike. Best part is he just parked at a busy gas station and idled his bike with speakers blasting as he went into buy things. Was louder than any raves or concerts I've been to.
I hope horrible horrible things happen to him.
coffeeshopslut@reddit
Mommy didn't love them enough so now they crave attention.
I've also never seen a Slingshot or T Rex without speakers either
86Austin@reddit
they just dont care about you or others. It's not that satisfying unfortunately.
FeliusSeptimus@reddit
Yep. I live on a popular street and when the weather is nice I can't leave my windows open between about 4 and 9PM because the motorcycles are so loud I can't have a conversation in my living room. ~96dBa according to the sound meter.
Unfortunately, no sound ordinances around here.
UsernameAvaylable@reddit
I had an arsehole floor it right next to me in a road tunnel with tile walls and i really had to stop the intrusive thought of turning him into a 100m long red smear on those tiles.
Mufasa_LG@reddit
Or, dont sit next to my stock exhaust for an extended period of time, at speed, with your window down.
Constant-Cable-7497@reddit
10+ minutes? No.
Your Huracan Performante is one of the loudest stock exhaust vehicles in the world. 112 DB directionally can cause acute hearing loss and permanent hearing damage within seconds.
Your car is yet much quieter than the shit boxes with no mufflers that regularly emit gunshot levels of sound pressure into vehicles around them which are often effectively a resonant ported enclosure that generates significant gain.
I'm an audio engineer and acoustician, I spent many years penetration testing SCIFs for STC reduction. I have personally sat in my car holding a sound meter in front of me at ear level as shitboxes hit the high 120s decibels. From my drivers seat.
There is no constitutional right to damage the health of another.
Mufasa_LG@reddit
Lmao, or you could keep your windows rolled up when driving at speed, which you should be doing anyways if you're that concerned with your health and hearing.
Better also lock up anyone who leaves their house with the sniffles because they could be endangering your health in a public space.
Also, ban all reflective surfaces because you could force yourself to look directly into the reflection of the sun and damage your eyesight.
Constant-Cable-7497@reddit
Other people are not responsible for protecting themselves from your damaging noise pollution. You are responsible for not harming the people around you.
Would you have a problem with someone walking up to you regularly blasting air horns in your ears because...IDK...they enjoy the sound of air horns?
How about if I stand on the sidewalk blasting airhorns at your bedroom window over and over all night? I Just really like air horns bro, if you don't like it that's your problem fam. Just uh, get triple paned windows and wear ear plugs.
Sound ridiculous to you? Because it is literally no more ridiculous than modified exhausts on cars.
They serve zero purpose other than making noise that you like and I don't. So you should have no problem with other people making unlimited noise that they like and you don't, right?
Mufasa_LG@reddit
Holy drama queen. The best part of this entire exchange is that at the end of the day you'll just be upset and bitter, while I'm enjoying my vehicles.
ponyo_impact@reddit
tell that to the harley people
or the flatbeds and semi trucks with stacks that roll past my house with JBRAKE going GAHAAGAGAGAGAGAGGAGAGAGGAGAGGA all day
Constant-Cable-7497@reddit
Same opinions. I will maybe allow the argument that bikers need to be a little louder for visibility.
Give me the EU 2026 regulation - 68-72DB Exhaust noise ceiling. No waivers no exceptions.
HaruMistborn@reddit
This happened to me today. I had my top down and pulled up beside a mustang. He revved the shit out of it and it literally caused me physical pain. Fucking asshole.
M4K4SURO@reddit
100%
Vhozite@reddit
Call it a circlejerk opinion but I think probably 90% of V8’s sound pleasant, with most of the 10% being vehicles just trying to be as loud as possible. Plenty of people have told me unprompted that my car sounds good (very mild exhaust).
It’s 99% of cars with less than 8 cylinders that I think sound like nothing or flaming ass.
mastawyrm@reddit
Are you kidding? The vast majority of unpleasant exhaust noises come from V8 pickups. It's made especially worse by the drivers going hard on the throttle and that slow shifting auto is proclaimed to the world. Not even a hint of revving out, just uhhhUHHHHHHuhh
TookEverything@reddit
Any V8 that’s straightpiped also sounds like complete ass. I’ve never heard any car sound good straightpiped. Just an ugly, hollow mess of a noise.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
You clearly haven’t heard the right v8s then
I_eat_dryer_lint69@reddit
I can kind of understand the financial side behind it, significantly cheaper to just run pipe out the back. But v8’s always sound better with some form of street muffler that actually creates a tone for the exhaust.
Bluecolt@reddit
OHV V8's like the SBC can sound decent when straight piped. I wouldn't run them that loud personally, but appreciate their sound when appropriate.
hiyeji2298@reddit
Let me introduce you to the south where high school kids run around with straight dual exhaust on those old things. They sound like two people hitting a steel trash can with aluminum baseball bats.
Tourettesmexchanic@reddit
My Z sounds pretty fucking good straight piped. But it's also quited down a good bit by having to go through a turbo first. It wasn't straight piped for more than like a week. But it sounded damn good.
Vhozite@reddit
Same. It’s actually crazy to me people think it’s sound good. The first Mustang I ever drove was straight piped and it almost convinced me I hated the car lol
Vhozite@reddit
1000% agree. Literally just noise
sc0lm00@reddit
Absolutely. I don't care for Mustangs but damn if they don't sound good a majority of the time unless the owner straight piped it.
ponyo_impact@reddit
I will never complain about a v8 or straight 6.
Inline 4's, sport bikes, harley most others can fuck off. Pass given to exotics of course.
Theres a badass 911 that lives near me and he can stay as loud as she likes
BrodyFox@reddit
IDK, the coyote engine in mustangs kinda drags down the average. Nearly every one ive heard has such a horrible burbly tone, that and many trucks have garbage sounding V8's. LS engine usually sound way better and the supercharger for Hellcats balances out the meh quality of the hemi
Vhozite@reddit
Coyotes def have a burble-y sound and it’s super easy to make them sound terrible lol. I do prefer LS’s and Hemi’s sound despite being a Mustang guy. I don’t really agree about trucks tho I think most V8 trucks sound ok. I’ve mistaken a few F-150’s for my car.
withsexyresults@reddit
Feel the opposite. 90% of v8s sound bland or agricultural. Give me the high pitched v8 a from e90 m3s or gt350
Commercial-Demand-37@reddit
I dunno, a straight six bmw makes a beautiful sound if it is done right. I prefer a V8 sound but there are numerous exceptions.
onlyranchmefries@reddit
Modern BMWs sound fantastic inside the car but from the outside I think they sound awful. Most straight 6s just end up sounding like appliances to me. V10 is peak engine sound for me followed by V8s and boxer 4s with unequal length headers.
Porencephaly@reddit
Modern BMWs sound great because they pipe fake engine noise through the speakers.
UncleBensRacistRice@reddit
I hate to agree, but most modern straight 6s sound pretty shit, whereas in the past they sounded pretty fucking amazing
DharaniPatel@reddit
I thought my X3 M40i sounded good from the interior (and still do to some extent) but after hearing a recording from the exterior I think it just sounds like a diesel truck.
https://i.imgur.com/reRb46z.mp4
Commercial-Demand-37@reddit
I cant argue about the V10s but i think the BMW N55 sounded fantastic. Although, i guess thats not exactly modern anymore.
Vhozite@reddit
Yeah that’s why I said 99% there is definitely exceptions. Porsche’s high revving H6 holy shit even through headphones it sounds like sex.
Porencephaly@reddit
I have a GT4RS and it is the best of both worlds - the exhaust isn’t loud at all but the engine is inside the cabin so the driver gets the glorious flat 6 buzz saw and the people outside the car aren’t pissed about the noise.
HailOfHarpoons@reddit
I've never heard a modern BMW sound good, including an M2 I've driven ~5 years ago. Sounds better than a four pot (everything does) but that's it.
Even MB's 6 cylinders sound better.
StevoPhotography@reddit
I’m trying to think of cars with 6 or less cylinders that sounds good and the R35 GTR is the only one I can think of
JJ_Shiro@reddit
Coyotes sound pretty good OEM too. It's easy to make them sound too raspy with a cheap exhaust though. Not all Mustang owners have gotten that memo. Loud does not mean better.
randeus@reddit
Lot of guys who have complemented my exhaust (h-pipe and borlas) have stated they usually hate the way Mustang’s sound and yeah, that’s because lot of Mustang owners throw on an x-pipe and some raspy exhaust or cut off the mufflers.
Standard-Potential-6@reddit
The active exhaust sounds magnificent, I don't think the aftermarket compares personally
Ford did incredible work with GT350 Voodoo sound as well, one of a kind, and on the Focus RS
Beni_Stingray@reddit
Nah have to disagree. I live in a smaller rural town at the edge of the city relativly close to the street and you have tons of people, especially at night accelerating when the speed limit opens up and i do enjoy it quite a lot.
But i have generaly a pretty high tolerance for noise, kindergarten is right beside with kids screaming and playing all day so maybe that plays into it and my brain just ignores it.
bigchilla777@reddit
you’re probably just a happy individual that doesn’t feel pure hate over every mild inconvenience such as hearing a noise they don’t like lol
Beni_Stingray@reddit
Youre pretty spot on and, like right on command, someone comes around and downvotes us both for no appaerent reason lol
Ahhh what a wonderfull world were living in.... ;)
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
Happens to me about 4-5 times a day
jesuswantsbrains@reddit
That gt3 rs dct cracking gears makes me smile every time
StonerMetalhead710@reddit
Same here, and 9/10 times that it does happen it's a classic muscle car of some kind
lowstrife@reddit
and, IMO, AMG. Ze German muscle car lol. Those v8's are one of the few as well. Mostly because it isn't excessively LOUD... there is so much wide spectrum bass that it somehow isn't nearly as annoying or piercing. It also isn't such deep monotone sub-bass like a 4 banger gives either, it's complex and diffuses much more elegantly.
Unless they're straight piped the motor. Then it's excessive.
MembershipNo2077@reddit
Funny enough, usually when I think damn that sounds nice it's on a stock tune of a V8. The CT5-V Blackwing, for example with its supercharged V8, sounds amazing while not being overly loud.
I never hear 3-series with some insane exhaust mods blowing out noise for people in 3 miles to hear and think "thats it man."
Nanamagari1989@reddit
very true. I straight piped my old 1999 corolla, sounded like dogshit, nobody but me and my friends liked it. I plan to do it again with my '95 corolla wagon but I feel bad for other car enthusiasts (any everyone in between) who have to hear this 4cyl scream its dick off to hit a whopping 25mph, and doesn't even look cool doing it.
Snail_With_a_Shotgun@reddit
Yep. The electric revolution cannot come soon enough.
Left-Clock-726@reddit
Loud exhaust is bad, good exhaust tone is where it’s at.
BloodDK22@reddit
Hard to disagree with the initial Post. I’m a car "guy" and always have a toy sports car in the garage. But, I’ve never been much down with obnoxious exhaust systems. Now, when an exotic car that actually sounds good rolls by I can make exceptions. Even a classic muscle car with a proper V8 can sound good if louder than normal. But most loud cars do NOT sound good they just sound loud and mostly annoying.
Dont even get me started on overly loud Harley’s and crotch rocket motor cycles….
Greyeyes88@reddit
I went from a loud Camaro to an EV, and could not be happier. The noise of an ICE car just gives you the illusion of power. The EV gives you the power in a silent environment where you can actually talk to the person sitting next to you without screaming. And yes, it does annoy people when they are trying to relax or having a coffee.
conglomitall@reddit
according to motortrend, jakopnik, psychology today and a raft of other auto mags and medical journals: "Who likes loud cars? Ontario study suggests they skew young, male and score high on psychopathy and sadism"
i find this surprising only in that the testing seemed to overlook other more obvious traits of those who enjoy annoying others by driving vehicles with loud/crappy sounding exhaust modifications. personality traits such as "assholishness" "little dick energy" "douchebagitry" "sexually confused blouse lifter" and "self molesting manchild" might all apply to those who insist on assaulting the rest of the citizenry with their clowny migraine inducing rattle traps. the experts however have spoken and apparently glass packs and straight pipes are the dominion of the severely psychologically crippled, and not to be confused with the standard issue dickheads driving around the suburbs in lifted pickup trucks.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/loud-car-study-psychology-1.7177688
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/human-individual-differences/202305/who-wants-a-loud-car
https://jalopnik.com/canadian-researchers-believe-men-who-like-loud-cars-hav-1851443592
clueless-kit@reddit
Upvoting to the max
patrido86@reddit
Sometimes they can be draining to drive but sometimes you need to relieve some stress and blast thru a tunnel
Independent_Fan7957@reddit
You are just getting old. I recently upgraded the exhaust for my car and it was a bit too loud for me. I asked my friend who is 10 years younger - does it sound nice to you or is it a bit too loud? The answer was 'dude it sounds awesome, what are you talking about' :) I kept the exhaust for 1 week and after that changed back to stock.
rudbri93@reddit
quiet speed is pretty damn fun. I dont need to announce to everyone in 5 square miles that Im ripping 1st and 2nd for funsies. I like a little noise, but just for myself, other people do not need to be involved.
gearabuser@reddit
On a related note, powerful yet silent farts are also fun
snaaaaaaaaaaaaake@reddit
This is one of the great things about EV's. Silent 800hp.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Hell no, without the sound such a valuable aspect of the experience is lost. Although I do think the programmed spaceship noises the Taycan makes are pretty cool
gravitydood@reddit
You can cook steak in microwave but I'd rather have bbq bwahahahaha 😈
rudbri93@reddit
I actually measured out the largest muffler i could fit under my e30 lol, had a friend take it out and you can hardly hear it unless its getting thrashed. Its louder inside the car than out.
1992Prime@reddit
Finally, another stealth speeder. I don’t need to broadcast my fun. 🤩
rudbri93@reddit
Well I work nights and I always hear the neighbors coming home with their mustangs, wrx, etc. Id rather not be noticed when I roll home at 630am.
doomgrin@reddit
That’s why I love my mustangs active exhaust
Quiet mode works shockingly well if I don’t want to wake up a neighborhood
djpatrick44@reddit
I drive my Corvette in Stealth mode around the neighborhood and in drive throughs so I don’t make too much of an ass of myself.
That said, I do enjoy rev match quite a bit. 🤷🏼♂️
cademore7@reddit
Active exhaust is one of those features I’ll be looking out for on cars moving forward. I use it religiously
Linton_M@reddit
I’ll be adding active exhaust to my car so I can be loud in the middle of nowhere but be quiet around others
lowstrife@reddit
The people who intentionally roll home to their neighborhood hot every day, and cold start their cars without closed valves can fuck right off with that anti-social behavior. They are the reason why we can't have nice things.
Thank you for being considerate to those who you live near. And just in general for neighborhood streets.
Comfortable-Total574@reddit
On my C6 Vette the valves are engine vacuum operated, so it can't start up with them closed. Headers, big cam, blower (the drag requires higher idle), It's godawful loud on startup. Been planning to install an electric vacuum pump lol, in the mean time I start it with the garage door closed.
Irate_Primate@reddit
Starting with the garage door closed is the ultimate good neighbor move. If I need to start up my ZL1 before like 730am, I make sure my valves are closed and wait a few seconds for the noise to die down before opening the garage.
NuttingPenguin@reddit
Yea my cars not that fast but it is still quick. Definitely not trying to attract unnecessary attention.
hollywood2311@reddit
Agreed. Plus, there's a difference between "sounding good" and "loud". Just because a car is loud doesn't mean it sounds good.
ponyo_impact@reddit
this is why my GR86 remains stock exhaust. I love being able to use my 7.5k redline without everyone knowing
i have a STi for weekend use with a external wastegate thts plenty loud
BodegaCat@reddit
I think one of the reasons why I hate loud cars now is back then (as in 90s and 2000s), driving a performance car was associated with car enthusiasts who drove sports cars or tuned cars because they were actually good drivers and were in the street car scene. They were passionate about their cars and the industry and can tell you everything about their cars from the engine and other parts to its history. Especially since back then most performance cars were standard/manual transmission and you needed at least some skill to handle a car those days.
Today you have your average 20 something year old dickhead who drives any modern BMW/Audi/Lexus or dropped Infinity/Honda/Acura with 3-400+ HP stock and they drive those cars purely for attention and to have a better/more expensive car than the car that’s next to theirs. The louder the better so that more people can see them driving their “expensive” car. Most of these idiots can barely drive themselves, and they are lucky to own a car (as in driving a car they can’t afford) that’s so powerful stock and yet so easy to drive.
SEAbaru@reddit
Took me until 40 before I actually started hating loud cars/bikes. I grew up in the 90s import tuner generation where going to 40mph in your 4cyl Honda was the pinnacle of performance lol.
wtfduud@reddit
With the huge oversized wings attached at the back, which likely did nothing but slow the car down.
rudbri93@reddit
We ran my brothers buick 350 with open headers for about an afternoon once in high school. Sounded nice and rowdy but far too loud to be driving regularly.
Delicious-Ocelot3751@reddit
another issue… dumps in the muscle/truck scene are the worst. and people swear by it, but a good muffler and appropriate exhaust setup makes any V8 sound like a orgasm
andyb521740@reddit
its one of the things I enjoy about electric cars, I feel like I can drive as hard as I want and not attract the attention of every cop in town
wtfduud@reddit
Or the ire of your neighbors if you're out late (or early)
DharaniPatel@reddit
No warm up period either. That and the silent (and immediate) speed is why my next car will probably be an EV. I do like a nice sounding engine and exhaust note but most of driving are shorter trips in the suburbs. That means unless I take the long way, the car isn't warmed up fully until I'm practically at the destination.
Furryyyy@reddit
I'm in a similar basket. Can't afford a new car for another year or so, but I'm trying to pick between a Model 3 and a GR86. They epitomize completely different experiences, but I feel like I'd absolutely love both.
Mathilliterate_asian@reddit
But then going nuts without hearing the pipe is... Sorta underwhelming.
I know it doesn't add to the speed, but it sure adds to the experience.
I kept my old e92 m3 exhaust stock and that thing doesn't scream when I'm doing civilized driving, a bit muted at times, but that's good because I don't need to tell everyone I'm burning gas money just going from one light to another. But when I floor it, that wail from the exhaust feels soooo good.
That's why valved exhausts are probably the best of both worlds, though I've yet to install one on my car lol.
rudbri93@reddit
valved exhausts and an open element air filter, really lets the induction noise out.
erix84@reddit
My bf gets mad that his base model Chevy Sonic with all of like 140 horsepower is way louder than my Civic Si while also being slower and getting worse gas mileage.
Part of me wishes my car was a little louder, but i have better things to spend money on. Maybe once it's paid off I'll get an intake and modest exhaust, but fuck burble tunes.
thisisjustascreename@reddit
Civic probably has a lot better sound deadening materials.
erix84@reddit
I chalk it up more to a ~25% smaller engine and HUGE OEM mufflers.
unmanipinfo@reddit
That's the key, find an exhaust that's only like 20%-50% louder than stock
Fozzymandius@reddit
This is what my EV is for, I take out my subaru specifically to hear 1st and 2nd as everything else is way too fast for public roads.
gearabuser@reddit
I like it when cars are loud because "they can't help it" or if they've "earned" the right to be loud. I'm thinking classic muscle cars that are running headers and so-so mufflers. It's natural for them to be noisy with their V8s and dated emissions/sound tech. In a way it's 'period-correct'. If a more modern car is heavily tuned for performance and has a less-restrictive exhaust, hey that's also a byproduct of chasing performance - being noisy is not the end goal in and of itself. With that in mind, if you have a shitbox and you deleted most of its exhaust system to be loud, or you paid some shop to fk up its tune to pop and cackle or you own an otherwise stock 2019 muscle car and you deleted its exhaust to make it loud....fuck off. You're annoying and don't deserve to be noisy. You're noisy for the sake of being noisy and you're just a 'poser'. That is my get-off-my-lawn rant.
Fc69jj@reddit
I have a loud car that I race 1-2x a month and I’m tired of it 🤣
ZeeGarage@reddit
I have a challenger and a GTR in the garage. I’d be fine with silent cars. Music is a requirement for me
maxg_33@reddit
I’m definitely not a super loud car guy but I enjoy hearing GOOD sounding car ie. 4.6 mustang, any sbc/bbc, but a 5.0 with corsa extremes is just so ridiculously loud, same thing with a straight piped 98 prelude. It’s all a personal preference and I totally understand why some people don’t like loud exhaust but I definitely appreciate them myself.
skidplate09@reddit
There is a time and place for loud cars. Also certain cars should never be loud while others get a pass. As you get older you'll respect a modified exhaust that has restraint. One that gets loud under load, but isn't obnoxious all the time. Also NEVER get a burble/pops and bang tune.
Relyks954@reddit
They used to sound better back in the day! Even modern V8’s sound kinda annoying
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jbahel02@reddit
lol come to Hawaii. The cars are obnoxiously loud 24/7 but it doesn’t stop there. It’s the scooters and mopeds that have no mufflers but rev constantly in traffic.
No_name_is_available@reddit
Even as a car guy I hate it. An asshole lives near me with a W204 straight pipe always launches and blasts in 2AM. Doesn’t help I live close to the stop sign ugh
There is a time and place for a specific thing. Loud exhaust should be mostly exclusive to tracks and mountain roads, just like lowered/stiff suspension. Doing it outside of the norm is tacky imo. Come to think of it this is probably I like performance wagons more and more
rioryan@reddit
I put an electronic cutout on my M113. Now it has a muffler whenever I want. Nice quiet drive to work, nice V8 noise on the way home!
Mrcrazy0@reddit
How long have you had it and how’s it working? I’ve read those tend to quickly develop leaks/other issues.
rioryan@reddit
I’ve only had it about a month, to be fair. Works great so far but I have heard about long term reliability concerns. Will see how it handles winter
foreverablankslate@reddit
What car? M113 is pretty much bulletproof save for a couple of things
rioryan@reddit
CLK430. Doesn’t seem too leaky yet! Only 50k miles on it.
foreverablankslate@reddit
Nice, those are unbelievably undervalued cars. And you can find them super easily with absolutely no miles - close friend picked up a CLK55 (cabrio sadly) with 70k miles for $5k. Needs a bit of maintenance, and the top doesn’t work, but hell of a lot of car for $5k especially in this market lmao.
rioryan@reddit
It’s a lot of fun. A bit rusty unfortunately. But it’s fun in the snow too. I got it up over 100mph on the lake last winter.
TomT12@reddit
Cutouts are the best, I have the stock exhaust on my cammed Camaro which has valves that I rewired to a switch under the dash. Then I have a 3 inch dump directly off the turbo if I really want to get rowdy. I can still shut everything and have it be reasonably quiet if I'm coming home late at night though.
Deadlight44@reddit
Always wanted active exhaust on my S60R, odd cylinders just sound great to me.
TomT12@reddit
Heh, that one's straight piped all the time, the 5 cylinder sounds great and the turbo quiets it down quite a bit. It's really not that loud though it has less drone than the TSX with a header and Yonaka exhaust on it. The K series doesn't really get roudy until it's in V-TEC.
admiraltarkin@reddit
I thought you were talking about the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier and was so confused
absoluteshallot@reddit
I mean, we used to wire CD players into to the comms system in those
mocoyne@reddit
Wow what a brave and provocative take. "I hate shitty sounding cars, bring on the downvotes!"
Cars have had valved exhausts for 20 years for this reason.
strongmanass@reddit
OP didn't say they hate shitty sounding cars, they said they hate loud cars, and then singled out shitty sounding cars for a greater degree of hate. But "I hate loud cars" is an unpopular opinion around here. I routinely get hate for saying I hate the GT3RS exhaust because it's the loudest stock exhaust I've ever had the displeasure of hearing. It doesn't help that I was trapped in a mile long tunnel with my convertible top down behind two of them driving abreast and repeatedly backing off and going WOT. But I have a special hatred for the sound of that car and that alone offends people since nearly everyone puts that car on a pedestal.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Gt3s are the only loud 6 cylinders that sound sensational, have no idea what you’re on about
strongmanass@reddit
There's no such thing as a good sounding exhaust to my ear. I don't like any sound associated with the combustion engine. On top of that the GT3RS is just too loud. It's well above the auditory damage threshold at WOT.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
So would a world full of evs be ideal for you? Genuinely asking bc I’ve never heard of an enthusiast who doesn’t like a single ICE exhaust note
strongmanass@reddit
Genuinely yes. I don't like the rumble at idle or the increasing pitch as you climb through the rev range. I never redline my cars because I can't stand the noise. I'm an enthusiast in spite of the engine, not because of it. But I've been interested in EVs since I first heard about the development of the Tesla roadster (which I thought was literally going to be an electric Elise). And once the new generation of electric convertibles comes to market I'll switch and I won't miss ICE.
From a driving perspective I'm not going to tell anyone to go buy an EV if that's not what they want. But 20 years from now when most cars on the road are electrified I'll have a more pleasant road experience than I do today.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Fascinating. I’m the exact opposite I can’t stand driving evs bc of the lack of noise it just isn’t the same at all… but I suppose that’s bc I love ice exhaust notes
IThatAsianGuyI@reddit
Only car guys will make the distinction of "loud" and "shitty sounding". For literally everyone else, nobody gives a shit and there is no difference.
It doesn't matter if it's a fart can, shitty burble tune, whatever on a shitbox, some giant monster diesal in a long-haul trailer or whatever, or an LFA, GT3RS, a 1200 CC motorcycle, all of it just sounds like "loud, obnoxious, assault on my ears". Especially when it's at night or in a tunnel or anywhere that makes the loud, even louder.
Nobody gives a shit, and nobody consented to potentially staring down tinnitus. "But my loud sounds are special and different!". Whatever man, nobody but you cares.
I fully expect to be downvoted.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
And likewise, no one cares about whether anyone else makes a distinction or gives a shit, imma enjoy my car regardless
strongmanass@reddit
Exactly. Every car enthusiast understands the concept of being forced to hear something you don't want when it's an asshole blasting crappy music with their windows down in traffic or playing music from their phone speakers at max volume on a crowded subway. And those aren't even at dangerous volumes, just very annoying. But when it comes to their cars somehow it's a different story.
mocoyne@reddit
Now “I hate the sound of a 3RS” is truly a hot take warranting the “bring on the downvotes” mindset.
strongmanass@reddit
IMO there's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on. Every time this topic comes up people mostly agree that there's a time and a place, and it's not in populated areas where people would like peace and quiet. But if you support measures meant to protect that peace and quiet, like the NYC decibel law, you get unbridled outrage.
Woleva30@reddit
My least favorite part of having an exhaust is my cold starts. Once its warmed up its actually very tame but has a little growl. I bought little silencers that go in my pipes and i take them out once its warm. Helped alot
Commercial_Badger_28@reddit
Cars with cherry bomb or straight pipe sounding exhausts are ridiculous. Nothing sounds better than a nice, low pitched rumble who's throaty grunt screams horsepower. But that redneck sounding shit can just piss off if you ask me. I'm a Mopar guy myself but I've always loved the sound of the 5.0 Mustangs since I was a kid. Especially the SVT Cobra Terminators. That supercharger whining and the exhaust laying down a bass tone, few things match it.
Fakyutsu@reddit
I think it’s just the mindset of someone that intentionally revs their engine for attention that bothers you. It’s possible to love cars but hate aspects of the scene that are tied to bro culture and this overinflated sense of bravado and machismo. I love cars but I hate hate hate the whole car meet scene. People tell me it’s changed in the last 20 years but I dunno. I’m not eager to revisit all the nonsense that comes with it.
Vhozite@reddit
This is me. I love cars always have but I hate so much about car culture and have very little desire to interact with other typical car bros. Way too much duck measuring and random hate.
Fakyutsu@reddit
I’m one of those dudes that can appreciate creativity no matter the brand or or year or country of manufacture. But after decades of people hating and labeling, it got old. I have a friend that still goes to meets and asks what’s the point of having nice cars if I don’t show them off. My answer is that I build my cars for my personal satisfaction and not for others. So my enjoyment is inward and not dependent on others approval or disapproval. I think that just comes with age and maturity.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
I completely agree with you on the building your cars for yourself, so why is it such a crime that I enjoy how my car sounds even if others don’t
Fakyutsu@reddit
When you enjoying your car exceeds 95 decibels and is causing a noise disturbance in a neighborhood is when it becomes a crime or at least a huge annoyance. It’s like playing your music full blast off your phone in a waiting room. No one except you wants to hear that, so put your headphones on.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
How exactly would you “put your headphones on” cos I’ve never heard of a car that sounds great in the cabin and quiet outside
Fakyutsu@reddit
You’re being too literal. Of course the “put your headphones on” is in reference to the iPhone music metaphor. For a loud car, how about waiting to do all that noisy shit when you’re on the freeway and not in a neighborhood or not at 2am when people are trying to sleep.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
So then you agree that people can have loud cars, it’s just up to the owner to not be a tool about it/installing a valvetronic. Blame the user not the machine, there’s nothing inherently wrong about loud cars.
Vhozite@reddit
I feel you dude. Literally the first person to ever speak to me about my car was some dude like twice my age who came over just to tell me his Mustang was faster. Bro idc.
LexKing89@reddit
I still like loud cars but everything around here has gotten extremely loud. People race near my house every night and all I hear is extremely loud exhausts popping, sounding like gunshots. It’s a little annoying sometimes but I can live with it.
I don’t understand how they can race all night long for 9 hours straight though. Sounds like race track some nights. 🥵
TheSkibidiPooPoo@reddit
tone > volume
YourCauseIsWorthless@reddit
I think most of us grow out of it eventually. I was kinda over loud cars by my early 30s. You might just be growing out of it earlier than most but I would attribute it to your living situation. Your home is supposed to be where you can retreat to peace and quiet. It sucks that you have to deal with that. There are some nights I can’t sleep with the windows open because people treat the roads outside my neighborhood like a damn drag strip. It’s annoying and I think it absolutely makes people hate the car community. I’m embarrassed I used to be one of those guys when I was your age.
LOLwarior@reddit
I live in 18 floor tower. And buildings from 9 to 25 floors are around. If som idiot is running on his “racing” car… you just can imagine how is it sounding. If some courier is driving on his scooter you are really scaring. Especially if it’s during air raid siren. Because russian drone kamikaze sounds similar to courier’s scooter. And yes, I’m loving cars as well.
Remote-Difficulty-33@reddit
I dont enjoy needlessly loud cars. Idiots popping and banging some 13 second car in parking garages, car shows, neighborhoods are stupid. I have a 540 big block that with 3.5" exhaust, full mufflers that seems like you can hear it for blocks if you rev it, I just drive normal getting out of the neighborhood or the Walmart parking lot.
Beginning_Lifeguard7@reddit
Start driving an EV and you will laugh at the dips with their loud exhaust. I can out accelerate most any ICE car and draw no attention to myself.
Zeracho@reddit
No one cares and if you think people don’t notice a person driving like an asshole with an EV you’re mistaken.
Beginning_Lifeguard7@reddit
And I’m sure you’re on of the dips with a loud exhaust and a slow car. I laugh at you.
Zeracho@reddit
Why should I care if someone’s car is slow? I’ve driven slow cars, faster cars, automatic, manual, cvts, trucks, cuvs, a submarine, large and small cars and have found things to like about most.
Why are you here? You aren’t an enthusiast at all, it sounds like you wrap your personality in your EV. I’m not anti-EV either but I’m waiting to redo my garage/add 240V to consider one.
Don’t worry you’ll probably grow up.
EarGaz@reddit
You had me at submarine. :) You will love fueling up in your garage.
Zeracho@reddit
I’m sure that will be convenient and an EV will make a great daily. I’ll probably always keep an ICE around if able to though.
Beginning_Lifeguard7@reddit
EV’s are not cars? Or you can’t be an enthusiast and drive an EV? Oh and listing your resume is cute. I’ve driven some cars too.
privatejetvillain-@reddit
in shambles that the driver of an economy car, presumably Tesla, is laughing at me driving a Ferrari.
redgrrr@reddit
We have one very loud car in our area. He woke me up at 3 am. I could not go back to sleep so I went to their house and rang the bell. I told the mom that her son was making a lot of noise and I thought she should know. She asked "Do you know what time it is?" to which I responded "I did not pick the time, your son did". Been quiet ever since.
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
Wow bro you really got him there… I’m convinced yall got way too much time on your hands 😂
FrankReynoldsCPA@reddit
I appreciate a good sounding car, I don't love screamers. I hate pop and burble tunes, and I hate straight pipes.
My 540i has a stock exhaust. It will probably stay that way forever.
My F-150 with the 5.0 has a deleted resonator and a magnaflow 18" muffler on it. Mostly because i felt it was TOO subdued from the factory. I wanted to hear the V8 rumble as any truck V8 should. I do not wind it out to redline, as I don't want to be the asshole with the raspy coyote annoying his neighbors.
theanonredditaccount@reddit
I'm 34 and am selling my wrangler 382 bc I'm tired of the noise. Getting a 200 series LC and embracing dad life lol.... I do still have an overland F250 and a 99 wrangler for fun but it's time to grow up :/
v8c63amg@reddit
I am against popcorn car and straight pipe. But natural loud cars nothing beats that. Don't pretend to have a v8 if you don't.
Kaiathebluenose@reddit
Name checks out
the_herbo_swervo@reddit
This ain’t no unpopular opinion dawg, everyone and their mom takes the time and energy out of their day to let me know they hate loud cars 🤷♂️ and I don’t even have a burble tune ofc a decatted v8 with bolt ons is gonna have some backfires but we all get lumped into the ricer category nonetheless
yourboydmcfarland@reddit
Calling all 50+ Mustang guys out at once!!
ILikeCoolCars1995@reddit
This is why I love my C8, stock performance exhaust is loud enough for me. Tone is very nice also
Zezxy@reddit
And here I am struggling to live with my loud as fuck car that has a solid resonator and muffler. Thankfully I only have pops on downshifts though.
grabsomeplates@reddit
When every VW, BMW and Hyundai started sounding like a machine gun every time they lift off the throttle, it became the worst fad that I can remember. It scares the hell out of my dogs when I am walking them and literally no one is impressed or turned on by your shitty car.
TrueGritty21@reddit
You’ve outgrown being a rice boy, congrats…family
martimattia@reddit
don't worry i hated this shit my whole life, you are not alone
vt8919@reddit
I appreciate this take. I understand the feeling that car enthusiasts have when they hear an engine roar because the power and the sound is the result of over a hundred years worth of engineering, fine tuning and hard work. There's a lot to appreciate about engines and I don't blame anyone for enjoying them
On the other hand... there is a line that needs to be drawn where enthusiasm and taste becomes merely a nusance and completely uncalled for. When someone has tuned their hatchback to backfire and sound like gunshots... that's unacceptable. When it becomes so loud it hits a decibel level shown to cause hearing loss. When the driver simply does not care about the people around them... It's unbearable.
I personally enjoy quiet vehicles that stay under the radar. Which is why I love EVs. All that torque, all that power, and no one needs to know or hear it.
Cultural-Tap7103@reddit
There’s a reason I’ve always loved the big, lazy luxury sedans from the 70s. Still awesome, but hushed.
bindermichi@reddit
Well, seems like you are finally not 8 years old anymore.
Majestic_Surround402@reddit
For me, a fast car without noise is like a home theater without a subwoofer
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Separate_Silver_4057@reddit
I still love loud cars but there is a time and place.
Pgr050590@reddit
I bought my first EV 2 months ago. It’s a Tesla Model S Plaid. I’ve had so many loud cars and this is the first one that makes no noise. It feels wrong to say but this is the best all around daily driver I’ve ever had.
Rinjizz@reddit
If you drive a cvt, please don't put an exhaust on it. Lamest sht I've heard in my entire life.
KangarooNo8292@reddit
Maybe ur just getting frustatez over not having one urself? Essy solution. Buy a wrx or 2jz 🤗. If not its probably trauma response or aADHD sound sentivity 👌🤷♂️. Go to a carmeet and face the demons. They are pretty cool and down to earth
Green_Bulldog@reddit
I can hear loud cars from my window sometimes. It’s kinda nice to be smoking and have a little warning to look out the window and see what’s going by, especially since there’s so many cool cars in the area. The only time it’s kinda annoying is when people gun it by me on my walk to campus.
I’m also 21 so I don’t think it’s cuz you’re getting old lol I still love loud cars and don’t at all agree w the comments abt them needing to sound nice. It’s subjective after all. As long as you’re courteous, no big deal. I like hearing other ppls cars 🤷♂️
14K1M88@reddit
Between that and car speakers thumping so hard you can feel it in your bones I've gotten to where I hate cars period! I'm ready to move to the country or become amish 🫨
imjustatechguy@reddit
There's definitely a difference between a loud exhaust, and a loud car. There are those that spend the $$$ to get a solid exhaust system that's been tested and fitted for their car, or that spend money for a shop to make a decent one. Then there's the crowd that just cuts off all the resonators, mufflers, and cats, booger welds it all together and calls it a "build". Those are the people most likely causing your headaches that early in the morning.
I'm in my 30s and still drive a modified car with a proper stainless steel exhaust and 100% understand where you're coming from.
Also burble and pop tunes need to go AWAY!
stvrrlight111@reddit
Same
Ok-Business2680@reddit
People don't hate loud exhausts. They just hate terrible sounding cars and exhaust systems on terribly turned turbo cars.
People hate all these turbo cars that pop because they have no actual sound. It's just generating noise.
The Ferrari and Maserati on the other hand produce almost music out the exhaust.
ponyo_impact@reddit
This, I have no issue with a good sounding v8 anything going past my house
its when the 25 year old clunker with an exhaust manifold leak that could wake the dead drives by
or the HS kid in his modded 4 banger etc.
Frohblak@reddit
Nah, people hate loud exhausts period. It’s only enthusiasts who think people differentiate between kinds of loud noises.
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
There's certainly people like that. But in no way is it everyone who isn't an enthusiast.
Frohblak@reddit
I think it’s safe to say it’s about 99% of the population. Loud noises are annoying, even if they’re connected to sweet engines
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
I would entirely disagree. The claim is baseless and exaggerated.
Frohblak@reddit
Then we’ll agree to disagree
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
If everyone hated loud noise, no one would do any activity that involved loud noises. There's no shortage. You're just wrong and basing your argument off of your own preference, then pretending everyone else is the same.
I'm not agreeing to disagree. You have no valid argument lol.
Frohblak@reddit
You’re being obtuse. Of course people enjoy things such as loud music that they choose to engage with. Nobody likes loud noises that are inflicted upon them. There is a large difference between the two.
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
No one in the world is neutral towards loud noises, and everyone hates them? Claiming that is ridiculous. Stop pretending your own feelings are how the entire world is.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
Not in my experience.
RedditJH@reddit
Same here. Even people with no interest in cars at all hear a V12 accelerate and think it's impressive, or enjoy the noise.
It's just that Reddit persona kicking in, there's a real disconnect from mainstream subreddits and an actual human being.
SunWaterGrass@reddit
lmao there was an OLD smoking tire podcast episode where they played happy birthday with an exhuast. Not sure if they were driving, or played a clip or what, but that was quality music from an exhaust.
Ok-Business2680@reddit
https://youtu.be/XRXwWbo_mX0?si=791mb1CwUfbU1Hia
voucher420@reddit
I have an eighth generation Civic Si with the factory muffler. It could be quieter, but it sounds good due to the fast revving K20a and once VTEC hits, it really sings. It’s not obnoxiously loud, but it is noticeable, and a lot of people seem to like it. I want to eventually put on a quieter muffler, and maybe add a second inline to really silence it, especially if I boost it one day. California makes it really hard to add power and the two companies that made Cali legal turbo and superchargers discontinued them or went out of business. I’m hoping one day I can find a Type R engine to swap in there or someone makes a California legal supercharger.
TigerWizard@reddit
Did you swap out the factory K20Z3?
voucher420@reddit
lol. No, I just forgot what engine I had.
The_Don_Papi@reddit
I agree it comes to ridiculously loud exhausts that makes your car sound like it’s in a rally race but you’re just driving down the parking aisle. There’s a difference between a clean, deep exhaust and an obnoxiously loud exhaust.
Sea-Reference1654@reddit
I assume you’re talking about the Hondas and Subarus that sound like trombones?
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
yes, also those vq motors drive me nuts
Jermanthony@reddit
I never understood it. Why would I want to draw more attention to myself while I'm driving over the speed limit.
Worldtraveler586@reddit
There is a big difference between a loud sound and a good sound and too many highschool kids don’t know the difference.
blind_rebel@reddit
Ripping thru the tunnels in my Z06 and GT500 with the exhaust set to Track mode will never get old 😍
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
and that I can get behind. I love tunnels, I used to have a little supercharged Mini that was slow but it sounded great. Loved hearing that whine whenever I downshifted in tunnels
skyshock21@reddit
The American V8 trombone exhaust really needs to die.
Snoopy0077@reddit
You’re allowed to hate them, just don’t go out of your way to become a problem to those that have loud cars.
DarthSamwiseAtreides@reddit
When I hear a car rumbling away I want to turn around and see a Ferrari burning down the highway, not an Infinity with a mismatched body kit going 40.
Fap4Jebus@reddit
Welcome to maturity
LongDay5849@reddit
Any v6 or 4 cylinder economy/mild sports car with loud exhaust sucks. Harleys with super loud exhausts suck. Most v8s are beautiful since they're only loud at heavy throttle.
Real_Garlic9999@reddit
I think a lot of people don't realise that induction noise is the good sound most of the time, not the exhaust (though there are exceptions)
CelebrationPuzzled90@reddit
Loud cars in the middle of the city are the most annoying thing on earth. Take that shit to the suburbs.
ifallallthetime@reddit
Only V8s sound good loud and even then it has to be somewhat subdued
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Jlx_27@reddit
Nothing to be sad about, the young guys rolling through my street everyday at 6-7AM going to work annoy the hell out of me too.
futurum-non-est@reddit
No, you are not getting old, you are getting smarter.
For most of my life, I've been close to race/rally cars and most of them have straight exhaust for simple reasons we all know.
On the other hand, we always had race/rally car wannabes who not understand how engines make power and how straight thru exhaust hurts performance on most cars. They think if a car is loud that means it is fast. And don't get me started on burble tunes, especially on NA engines. That is pure heresy
I have spent my car life on the mission to remove high, ear-piercing, sound-of-a-trombone sound from the exhaust and leave that sweet bass and I have found a simple solution: Big silencers. Silencer can be straight through but when it is big enough it can eat that high Hz and leave low Hz. Even 3cyl 1.0 engine can sound nice when you use proper silencers.
Jojo370z@reddit
I personally enjoy them but I also am conscious that the large majority does not, so i don’t really chase “loud” anymore. Liking the sound of a roaring/burbling/popping exhaust is a personal preference and there’s nothing wrong feeling one way or the other. ❤️
Key-Ad-1873@reddit
You're not alone. I am not a fan of anything loud. I start wearing earplugs if I'm having to raise my voice even if it is overkill, and with many tools/machines I'll double up with over ear hearing protection.
As for cars specifically. I enjoy the upgraded sounds from a proper exhaust and tune, however I don't enjoy how loud they make them. And ik for a fact exhausts do not have to be so loud to get the better quality sound. The stock exhaust on the mercury marauder is nice and not super loud. People should focus more on improving the quality of sound rather than the quantity.
And yes I realize they will go hand in hand to some extent, but it's not as much as they make it seem
Kind-Sherbert4103@reddit
In my 6th decade, never tired of engine sounds. I roll down my window to listen to muscle cars at stop lights.
gardenWarior@reddit
I lived for a three years literally next to busy road with intersection. The amount of loud cars disturbing everyone's peace created hate for anyone with loud exhaust. And those goddamn motorcycles man... I think they invent new exhausts only to annoy as much people as humanly possible. Noise pollution is a real thing
NecessaryDay9921@reddit
There are too many loud cars; people are so inconsiderate.
AcanthaceaeNo948@reddit
A high revving, sonorous screaming engine sounds good loud.
Guttural burbly turbo engines: no.
Bassy American V8s are ok, they don’t sound as good as a high revving DOHC engine but they sound way better than turbo engines.
Petty_Acquiescence@reddit
Surely that everyone hates noises.
Vonblackhawk2811@reddit
That's one thing I really like about my Elantra N. I'm young enough to still enjoy a nice loud exhaust, but I have the option for it to just be quiet (mostly). In comfort, no pops and bangs, muted noise. Quiet enough to putt through the neighborhood without annoying anyone. I try to be courteous in the neighborhoods and I never just sit there and rev, especially in garages.
But when I get a hankering for the rowdy side, just open up the valves and it's juvenile city lol. I enjoy the option to have either sound. It'll get old one day, but hopefully not for a long time.
Shock_Hazzard@reddit
I’ve gone the opposite. Always had stealthy, quiet cars… after I turned 30 something in my brain broke and now it’s cone filter intakes and straight-through mufflers on everything. Even my scabby 4cyl automatic daily got the finest $170 Amazon exhaust when one of the hangers let go and the muffler snapped off. It is crazy loud and obnoxious for a tiny car, and I usually leave at 530 AM so I’m sure my neighbors really appreciate it.
elizabethxvii@reddit
Who tf likes those things? they’re a social pariah
Slyons89@reddit
I live a quarter mile from the start of a perfectly straight street in my town. Every Tom, Dick and Harry opens up their Harley, Corvette, Civic with riceroni exhaust, or whatever, at 100% full blast right as they fly past my apartment. Sometimes at 2 in the morning It suuuuuuuuuucks.
I have an exhaust on my car but I don't RIP IT to redline in residential areas in the middle of the night.
So it's not so much the exhaust that I hate, it's the flagrant disrespect of the public.
alastoris@reddit
There's good sounding exhaust and then there's loud exhaust.
I think my limit is Elantra N where it's a nice amount of pop and gurgles but not overwhelmingly loud.
I think what OP is referring to is catless mod or straightpipping where it makes any and all exhaust sounds loud (not in a good way).
Also, I noticed a lot of motorcycles are very loud by default as well.
CMDRfatbear@reddit
Pop tunes are gay. This is coming from a guy that would be totally fine driving with a straight piped wrx or a very loud vr6 car. I dont do exhaust mod for anyone but myself, i like hearing my own car. I am not heartless and do care about other people so i try to keep it down(not hard, my car isnt very loud in actuality) but i am yearning to go ahead with another "upgrade" and do my downpipe which would make it very loud probably, but i will never do no pop tune, not even a burble tune because the car might already do it naturally after that which i prefer. It might also not because ill still have a ultra quiet resonator and a race muffler. I am ready to swap shifts from 2nd to 3rd just so its not that bad coming home.
verdegrrl@reddit
No slurs. Thanks.
taint_tattoo@reddit
In the past, I have had vehicles with straight dumps ... too f***king loud. And I've had vehicles that came with resonators, dual cats, and big mufflers .... and sounded like a very quiet Dyson in the living room. These days I'm an old man who likes to complain about clouds in the sky, but I want an exhaust with a moderate rumble. Not enough to make the HOA mad, but enough that it reminds me that it's not electric.
CarCaste@reddit
Yep there are a few loud assholes who go to work between 5-9 am near me, one is a straight piped diesel dodge truck and the other is a early 2000's civic, the other a straight piped motorcycle. They all look like total clowns too. Ruins critical moments of sleep for me almost every day.
4TonnesofFury@reddit
A good quality exhaust system is not cheap but also people just like loud cars to be obnoxious.
FrendlyAsshole@reddit
Snap Crackle Pop tunes are fucking stupid. But also, look into Loop Earplugs. My gf uses them to sleep & she loves them.
substitoad69@reddit
You are so brave for posting what literally everyone already agrees with.
Decapitat3d@reddit
You're not alone. I much prefer a nicely tuned, low growl. The pops, especially in parking garages or under highway bridges, are a mark of combustion inefficiency that do nothing but make you annoying to everyone around you.
JeffSpicolisBong@reddit
I’ve noticed that overly loud, shitty sounding exhausts have become very popular, and I don’t mind hearing them once in a while, but it’s become an incessant chorus of them day and night. It wears on your nerves, Like a torture technique where they play the same song over and over. Especially when the sound permeates your home.
I play guitar, and love to crank it up sometimes, but I would never ever subject the public to it. Not only because I’m not that good, but because I respect others in public.
redline454@reddit
You sound like a ton of fun to be around
p90rushb@reddit
My 2005 corolla with holes cut in the air box sounds sick! I mean it literally sounds like there's something seriously wrong with the engine's air intake manifold
NefariousnessCold144@reddit
Same story here. I wake up as soon as traffic starts on my busy street. I love the weekends, and when there is a snowstorm.
I've had loud trucks, cars, and bikes all my life, and now I can't really stand it.
I feel bad for putting an exhaust on my brz because it warms up extremely loud. My neighbors all know me now..
I still enjoy going out to a car meet and seeing tasteful exhausts, but my street is mostly a bunch of people redlining failed exhaust systems.
Creative-Sort8144@reddit
I think there is a balance between loud enough for the car enthusiast and yet quiet enough that I don’t wake everyone up. The problem is fewer people care to find this balance.
I personally like loud cars but think it’s usually unnecessary. I don’t necessarily think straight piping something is necessary to enjoy the sound of a car but at the same time I know where the people who do straight pipe their cars are coming from.
Ultimately, I think it’s everyone’s freedom to do what they want to their car. But in order to keep the peace car people need to find that balance and non car people need to be willing to accept some noise. Something that will be hard to do.
Hyperius999@reddit
There's a difference between real car people and ricers
CombinationBitter889@reddit
Growing up, V8 sports cars were mostly pushrods with mid mufflers. Aftermarket setups always sounded deep and throaty.
Outside of the Hemi, new age V8s sound like crap. Ford has the European inspired coyote which has more rasp than rumble. Everyone wants to delete mufflers and resonators these days to save money while making their car “loud.” All you hear is rasp and clap in these modern exhausts. People are dumb 🤷♂️.
416steve@reddit
Three car solution:
EL_Chapo_Cuzzin@reddit
Totally agree with you. Those crackle and pop tunes are annoying.
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
When they're shittily done, yeah I agree.
A good tune though... I love the burbles.
DaytonaRS5@reddit
My tuner offers this off, I much prefer it. I can move quickly and quietly in the city and then switch modes and it’s nice and loud out of them, still get the odd genuine pop or bang, but it’s rare and enjoyable.
Juicyjackson@reddit
There is someone that lives in my neighborhood that has one, it sounds like literal gunshots whenever he is driving around, I work from home and it has to be the most annoying thing ever.
EL_Chapo_Cuzzin@reddit
Outside dining at a taco shop one night and a Hyundai Veloster N was at the light. I swear the driver is obnoxious. Gunshot exhaust at the light like it's a cool thing. There was a Scion Tc that would drive like a moron in my area. Sounds like it's straight pipe. Every 7am, he comes by to pick up his buddy for work and races off. Then drop him off in the afternoon and races off again.
Loud doesn't automatically make it sound good.
MelodicInsight@reddit
There's a straight piped cvt Forester and a lifted/straight piped Fiat 500x in my neighborhood. They never fail to rev the piss out of each and slowly crawl by you at WOT.
I get secondhand embarrassment every time
jsuich@reddit
Quiet is Bad but Loud does not equal Good. We got you. Burble, Gruff, Bark, Snarl, Whine, Woosh ... loud enough to hear, loud enough to enjoy, not so loud you're hurting ears in close proximity. Right?
xTRYPTAMINEx@reddit
I dislike assholes with loud cars. But not loud cars themselves. The people who don't go out of their way to create a ton of noise are fine in my books.
eighty6gt@reddit
It's dirt cheap to straight pipe a vehicle so I get a lot of that where I am. Nissan v6's, turbo BMW's with butthole tunes.
My 4.6 3v (mild cams) has the factory mufflers and has the lowest pitched quietest purring cat idle I've ever heard. It's great. The new 5.0 cars somehow sound from slightly worse to absolutely terrible as you go more free flowing with the exhaust. Perhaps because they don't share the old 351w/ho firing order...
AnonymousEngineer_@reddit
What you've actually discovered is that there's a difference between tone and volume. There's way too many people, usually younger folks, who think loud is good.
Loud is not good. An SR20 sounds horrible. Putting a fart cannon exhaust on it doesn't improve it - it still sounds horrible, just louder.
On the other hand, something like a 911 GT3 at full noise sounds brilliant. It's a lot quieter than a full blown Cup car, but it still sounds lovely.
Don't even start me about Harleys.
ike9211@reddit
Same but only started to hate it after moving to Detroit. All the hellcats and what not here are loud driven by people that can't drive or race, just stupid.
Useful-ldiot@reddit
It does seem to be much more prevalent now.
When I was a teen (early 00s) straight pipes, at least around me, were incredibly rare. There was 1 mustang at my high school that had them. All the tuners ran exhaust but they weren't crazy loud. Yes, you'd hear them at a distance but even up close it wasn't more than slightly annoying. Somewhere along the way, louder became the goal because it seems like every other mustang I see now has straight pipes and the rasp literally hurts my ears.
On the import side, rice krispie tunes are obnoxious and everywhere. If your car sounds like gunfire, you're doing it wrong. There's a difference between burbles and gunshots and it seems like nearly every tuner doesn't know that difference.
I'd put this in the same category as the pony cars with straight pipes. For whatever reason, people associate loud with fast and it's pretty annoying.
beemac86@reddit
No it's not you, the quality of sound has just gotten exponentially worse since the 90s/early 2000s
makattak88@reddit
Loud cars and trucks are dumb. Anyone remember when Ford came out with the “quiet diesel” and all the bros were like “I WANT MY DIESEL LOUD!!” No, you don’t. You have ego problems.
CMDR_omnicognate@reddit
I don’t have a problem with loud cars as such, just shitty loud cars. Like yeah cool a 2 litre 4 cylinder does sound loud when you straight pipe it, but it sounds exactly the fucking same as every other car on the road and it just makes you sound like an obnoxious ass
RampJunk@reddit
Wear earplugs
UncleBensRacistRice@reddit
Maybe im weird but i like that i have more intake noise than exhaust noise
DoomDash@reddit
I love loud cars if it's not a straight pipe or muffler delete. I'm always trying to see what went buy or guess.
Darkwingedcreature@reddit
Cars should be loud enough to be enjoyable for the driver, yet silent enough not to disturb the passenger.
KnightOfShadows1221@reddit
As a fellow person in their early 20s, that also enjoys speeding around, i also don't care much for it.
Kinda wish both the loud exhaust, and squatted car/truck trends would die out.
The exhaust on my main truck is a bit too loud, so I'm kind of guilty of it too, but it's only because the cat failed on it and I haven't had a chance to replace it yet.
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BullCityBoomerSooner@reddit
Late 1980s I had a sick 6.6 1978 Trans Am that ran dual straight pipes, no cats, every muffler connected instantly blew wide open. I also played in rock bands wo I was rumbling home at 3am several times a week. Kharma has caught up with me,,,, get off my lawn hahaha!! But ya, I deserve it when the kids are rolling up and down my neighborhood because I did that too back in the day.. but the other neighbors don't.
IsPooping@reddit
I was outside on the phone with 911 because the fire alarms were going off in my apartment. Some asshole drove by in the alley doing a first gear pull in his crackle tuned focus and completely covered up any communication. I yelled at him "hey fuck off, sounds like shit!!" And he got all fired up and made another lap. Just in time for the cops to show up for my initial call and give his inconsiderate ass a ticket
kirlefteris@reddit
I love cars, fast driving, and working on them. I absolutely hate noise though. Especially cars with noisy idle, I want to smash them with a sledgehammer until the engine stops running.
Mental_Medium3988@reddit
I don't mind a good sounding tune. But I agree the amount of people with bad sounding tunes or revving it needlessly is too high. I live where an arterial turns and it seems like every fourth person treats it like a drag strip. I leave for work at about 3 am and one morning this person driving a mid90s civic and they redlined it through the first 3 gears and popping the exhaust. Fucking dumb.
I used to have a 1970 f100 with a 302, headers and a 600cfm carb and cherry bombs. I could get that fucker loud if I wanted but I also knew time and place as well. I could drive it at 3am and not be a dick to everyone.
Wing_Nut_UK@reddit
I like loud. But it has to be the right loud.
F1T_13@reddit
Fair, they're supposed to be something of an occasion. My tastes have settled into a certain place after a time. Some kinds of cars and performance has just stopped fascinating me anymore. I still love racing though.
Zanna-K@reddit
I guess it depends on how often you hear it. If you aren't surrounded by exotics then it doesn't exactly hit the same to hear yet another V10 revving down the block. Same if you're surrounded by SBC's and dude-bros with ponycars and trucks - hearing yet another straight-piped V8 is just annoying.
When the majority of cars around you are 4 cylinders then hearing a big machine hits different.
When it comes to tuner cars... Yeah ok almost all of them sound like shit lol. The only one anyone ever really likes is their own car. I had a WRX so I know how it's like. It sounded good to me, but I almost never thought other WRXs sounded good lol. Tbh all the turbo 4's sound like fart machines. The V6's aren't much better. The old school i6 and v6 turbo cars are ok-ish but honestly not amazing
lagent55@reddit
I have an 07 Mustang GT, absolutely love the exhaust note on it, not loud, just perfect and it's bone stock, absolutely no mods at all
SpareInvestigator846@reddit
It sounds great when it aint yours, but its living with a liud obnoxious family member, it begins to grate on your nerves in a never ending cacophony of loudness, especially if your stressed, sick, tired, down, etc. and you cant oit run it😒🙄😬
Quaiche@reddit
Who would have guessed that obnoxiously modded cars are obnoxious.
LaFagehetti@reddit
Congratulations, you’ve hit maturity 👏
Toro8926@reddit
I have an aftermarket exhaust, but i don't want it screaming or sounding like gunshots like some people have them.
x-Globgor-x@reddit
I like them. All my vehicles have aftermarket exhaust systems put on. I dont like people who park outside and rev incessantly at night or anything, but driving the car if it's loud is cool. A high quality and louder exhaust is fun.
_mattyjoe@reddit
Agree 100%. I live in a city with a lot of performance cars and it's completely ruining our neighborhoods. Can't even enjoy a nice walk without ridiculous amounts of noise all the time.
PendejoJenkins@reddit
Welcome to growing up. You will only learn to love perfectly fine tuned cars and not shitbox Hondas you liked in the past.
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Honestly I still love my shitboxes, as long as they aren’t insanely loud and modded out. I DD an old Wrangler with the old AMC motor. Bone stock, manual, and AC as the only option. Pretty rough but I love it.
PendejoJenkins@reddit
Let me rephrase. The Hondas that sound like a lawnmower. Cause the old Hondas from the 90s are the most reliable works of art. I got a 91 Mazda b2600i I resurrected and it’s been nothing but amazing dude. There’s nothing like driving your project car.
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Oh then yes definitely. Honestly most of the Hondas I’ve driven from that era sound pretty good stock. Love that induction noise. A fart can exhaust takes away from the experience for me.
Illustrious_Salt940@reddit
It's the smaller cars that have the loudest exhaust systems. And seems like the louder the little car they don't seem to be going any faster. The big v8 engines sound great!!!!
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Agreed 100%!! I miss hearing the old crown vic cop cars take off when I was a child. They sounded so damn good, too bad they aren’t around anymore.
MysticNippleRS@reddit
Cars produce a lot of cool sounds, a straight piped burble tuned 4 cylinder is not one of them
Shot-Ad4847@reddit
Personally I think a few of the responses to this are too far one way or the other realistic in my opinion it all comes down to time and place, eg residential drive like a normal person, merging on an on ramp gun it, leaving for work early quiet, at the drag strip fuck it bois wastegate venting to atmosphere
YouAlternative3498@reddit
Boomer-ass statement man
SatisfactionMost316@reddit
Shoe size IQ statement
just_another_jabroni@reddit
I did a muffler swap and while I liked the noise below 100kph, not really loud since it's not a straight pipe above 100kph it's a droning mess and Im a SQ car audio head so that shits get annoying especially on hours long highway cruises. Switched back to my stock muffler and all the sound deadening I made for my sound system worked lol
GeneralCommand4459@reddit
When people hear a loud crappy exhaust sound they turn and stare. Unfortunately the driver thinks they are being stared at because they sound cool. If we could train ourselves to turn and laugh instead of turn and stare the problem would probably go away.
GeneralCommand4459@reddit
When people hear a loud car they turn and look. Unfortunately the driver assumes they are being stared at because they sound cool. If we could train ourselves to turn and laugh instead of turn and stare the problem would disappear.
samurai1226@reddit
That's why active exhausts are a thing. Awesome sound for when it's fine to use, but you can also drive around quietly when you're driving at times where people are asleep
Secret_Physics_9243@reddit
I don't like loud cars either. I like good sounding cars, but just not loud (street cars that is)
I associate loudness with power. But a civic or golf that is loud just to be loud while making 150hp is just not it.
However, i do like to get my ears assaulted on a racetrack by loud cars and i've always been an advocate for loud motorsports, because those cars are actually fast and the sound is just a product of their engeneering.
ltdan84@reddit
It’s because somewhere along the way the loudness became the only thing that mattered, and everybody is just straight piping their chargers, and they sound like shit.
TheDirtDude117@reddit
It greatly depends for me I wouldn't put an exhaust that drones on the highway or one that rattles windows.
My S2000 has an adjustable exhaust. Basically it has a Helmholtz resonator for me to adjust the flow into it. Big opening = Quiet, small opening = Moderate, Blocked off = Loud. It's manually done with 2 12mms and can be done on the ground. Perfect for trips to fun destinations or track days with sound limits. Remark did a good job with the 2.5" full exhaust AND it's within margin of error of my 75mm HKS exhaust for power (tuned on HKS then adjusted). With the K&N FIPK intake (06) it has a lot of intske noise and just the perfect balance. It's negging you to hit redline a few times...
However my C5Z06... It's an acquired taste. It's long tube headers and the factory Titanium Muffler with the bypass (UK mod or Gundam Mod). However, it has 180⁰ Headers. 800-3000rpm it's perfectly fine, you can hold a conversation in it no problem. 3500-4000rpm the pitch and tone change. 4000-6000 it sounds Italian-ish, closer to the C8Z than you'd expect for a Cam in Block. 6000-6600 .... It's loud. Really not the Tahoe straight piped noise you expect from a Chevy. 80mph in 6th gear I'm sub 2000rpm and quiet enough my girlfriend can read on longer trips.
And the V6 RX8 well it's quiet, a cruiser. It's a bit tamer than a V6 Camaro with the dual mode exhaust in Sport Mode but that's quite literally the closest comparison.
Matte_Kudasai82@reddit
I love the sound of loud cars, i just hate getting woken up by them at 6 in the morning lol, from what im reading it sounds like its the same situation for you, douche bags being intentionally extra loud and revving their cars at the worst hours is definitely annoying, i plan on getting a valvetronic exhaust for my truck so i can actually be courteous when people are sleeping and enjoy the loud car when its appropriate
saturnuranusmars@reddit
You're only mad because you're being waken up by them
surf_greatriver_v4@reddit
"you're only mad because you have a reason to be mad"
C-C-X-V-I@reddit
What a wild thing to say! It's only been posted several times in the years I've been here
DiffusedSky24@reddit
I live on a busy road during commute times. I'm sick of Harleys, diesel douches and Rams with no mufflers you can hear coming from a mile away. Its fucking noise pollution. I miss the days when cops enforced muffler laws.
ZweedNaat@reddit
Same dude. Especially when you get neighbors who need to go to work and do so in a Skoda Fabia RS or something that absolutely sounds like a fucking tractor early in the morning...
PoniesPlayingPoker@reddit
I'm a big fan of a sports muffler, sport resonator, and stock catalytic converter. There's no need for straight piped engines unless it's specifically a toy.
Suspicious-Ninja-395@reddit
i didn’t used to mind it but i also live across from a parking garage at a college where cars and motorcycles are constantly revving in the garage and on the busy street in front of my room. it’s constant all throughout the day and it’s very frustrating i can barely hear any my voice or tv or phone anything when they drive by
chef_26@reddit
There’s a massive difference between a tuned exhaust note coming from a twin carb and the pop and bang computer ‘tuning’
I’m 1000% with you on this.
Jaggerjaquez714@reddit
The thing is, some people feel like it needs to be as loud as possible when in reality a deep or good sounding tone beats volume every time.
accidental_tourist@reddit
There's nothing to apologize about though
d4rkha1f@reddit
Welcome to adulthood. I wish I could take back the insanity of driving my truck around with open headers when I was a kid.
lemmefixu@reddit
I still like a big V8 that idles like a ZZ Top intro, an angry italian engine that reminds me of the V10s from F1 and maybe a rally car. Other than that, they should all be quiet.
qb4ever@reddit
I like loud cars if the loudness is necessary for the performance. I hate loud cars if they are loud for the sake of being loud.
MWBrooks98@reddit
Sounds like you’re too soft to truly enjoy the gutteral attitude of cars. Enjoy your Vespa though….
Abject-Picture@reddit
The only people that like loud cars are their drivers.
PlusConfusion9522@reddit
Cars should sound good if they’re gonna be loud. I think the Z and inline 6 bimmer communities missed that day of car enthusiast school.
ktappe@reddit
I'm with you. There are certain loud cars that pass my house every day at the same time. I'm thinking of dedicating a day to being roadside with my camera and getting their license #'s. Then reporting them en masse to the cops. I live in a quiet semi-forested area. We all live here for a reason--for the quiet. These asshats with their fartboxes are ruining it daily for us. Enough.
Ok-Wait2985@reddit
It really helps that everything has a 2.0 TGDI 4 cylinder because those are known for sounding really pleasant and nice
Resident_Rise5915@reddit
I live in popular bar area in Denver…no probably not that one. And I’ve really learned to hate loud cars. Tbh loud crotch rockets don’t bother me but loud cars are completely obnoxious
bagel_union@reddit
Broadway and obnoxious cars
StonerMetalhead710@reddit
That's part of the reason why I like AMG's. They're quiet when you need them to be and can wake the dead when you want them to
lowstrife@reddit
And even when they're loud, the spectrum of the noise is so wide that it diffuses and resonates in a very pleasant way.
The exhausts we all hate are extreme drone from monotone inline 4 bangers. And v6's, because v6's are incapable of sounding good unless you're Honda in the 80's and 90's.
tubawhatever@reddit
That's a good description of the AMG sound. I honestly am not a huge fan of most American V8 sounds, except some Corvettes and Cadillacs as the last few generations have had nice stock exhausts. The V8 sound I like is more refined, but I think that comes somewhat from cam selection and also exhaust tuning. AMGs do not have overly aggressive cams, they're engines that are dead smooth with normal driving but also have grunt, which I think is a similar philosophy with the performance engines most luxury brands. Lexus V8s can sound pretty good as well.
lowstrife@reddit
A lot comes from the engine design philosophy. Is it a pushrod motor, or is it overhead cam.
I will, agree Lexus and Mercedes make the most pleasing v8's currently IMO.
TheGT1030MasterRace@reddit
The intake snarl of a Honda V6 sounds awesome. Especially when they had the old-fashioned "split personality" VTEC that would go from minivan to muscle car when it crossed over to the hot cam.
lowstrife@reddit
I agree. That was one of the exceptions I wrote in the original post, but I edited out for brevity.
This being said, what makes the noise of that engine good is the intake noise. Not the exhaust. I used to own one, I would know.
lique_madique@reddit
That’s most any car with a decent valved exhaust though. My C63 was actually rowdier at idle than my Shelby.
lowstrife@reddit
I will never forget this AMG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjmRvFZO2Ko
Twombls@reddit
It's always the shittiest sounding vehicles that like to circle bar areas at 25mph to show off
tubawhatever@reddit
Harley riders fit this description to a T
Somewhere_In_Asia@reddit
HUH!?
pinkfire1010@reddit
I have a Jeep that I take off-road a couple times a year. Last year I knocked my muffler against a rock and my bf at the time told me he had a solution for a muffler delete and I was thrilled. Imagine my shock when he surprised me pulling up with my brick-shaped car that sounds like a hellcat 😭
I am admittedly the one in the neighborhood people are annoyed by, while also being embarrassed by it. No, you’re not alone in not liking it. I’m currently working on trading it in lol
SLAPUSlLLY@reddit
Live on a main road and feel your pain.
I do smile when it's loud af and a riced out base civic rolls by. Over promise and under deliver.
Jumbo_Jetta@reddit
The louder the car, the lower the credit score.
privatejetvillain-@reddit
Like drivers of Lambo/McLaren/Ferrari?
SidneyHuffman316@reddit
I started hating loud cars when I had a kid. Seemed like every naptime a modified exhaust would suddenly blast down the street
Prism3@reddit
Exactly why I love my RSX, sure it’s got a full exhaust but I purposefully docked power to run a full 2.5 inch exhaust instead of a 3 inch which is near silent at idle and below 2000 rpms before vtc kicks in. Cruising its silent, and it’s only loud when I open it up. When I got it tuned the tuner wanted to try a pop/crackle tune and I turned it off after 2 days. I’m also only 21 so I feel you
SpaceRaver42@reddit
I'm in full agreement.
I'm an audiophile who used to have a $12k home theater.
It's about the quality. I'm currently looking for an exhaust for my 1.8 NA Miata, but it's difficult without hearing the exhausts in person because I don't care about volume, I care about crispness. Because of this, I loathe straight-pipes and any exhaust with rasp, as that's basically akin to distortion, to me.
I want to hear my exhaust & like it, but only when the radio is off.
Tl;dr, you're not alone
Angels-Fall-First@reddit
Also a 21 year old college student and I love loud exhausts but think they have a place and time. If I could afford to have a dedicated track or canyon car I wouldn't blink twice at an uncatted straight or x pipe. But when I have to make one car do everything, including a road trip with my girl who gets migraines, or pull in to church Sunday morning, or cold start at 3:00 AM to pick a friend up from the airport, an extremely loud exhaust just doesn't fit the use case of a daily driver
Hyperspec42@reddit
I like cars that are loud enough to be heard but not ear breaking heard
TwelveTrains@reddit
Have always loved cars, but never once understood why anyone wants them louder. Cars breaking a certain sound limit should be fined, no questions asked. It adds nothing to society and only makes things worse for others. You can still have all the enjoyment of cars without them being loud.
morelsupporter@reddit
i'm tired of the burble/pop tune, but loud cars will always have my heart.
Fragrant_Wedding4577@reddit
Everyone just needs to live next to or near a street for more than 2 months in their lives to come to the realization that the "lustful engine noise" regards preach about is just shitty noise.
LoadEntire@reddit
I always love me a loud car
PiggypPiggyyYaya@reddit
Yeah I hate that pop cracking sound when they let off the accelerator too. It reminds me of a Harley. When did that even become a trend?
StatementOk470@reddit
No hot take here. Don’t be an asshole is still the golden rule. Make your shit sound good, it doesn’t need to scream it.
little_ezra_@reddit
There’s a difference between a loud car and a person revving the crap out of it in the parking garage. There’s also a difference between. Good sounding car and a loud car. A burble tune straight piped 350z is not a good sounding car, and I’d imagine that’s what most of those cars in the parking garage are.
dphoenix1@reddit
I don’t disagree, but remember that you’re kind of in a setting where I expect you’ll experience a larger concentration of loud cars — loud exhausts are absolutely a young person thing, and you are surrounded by young people in a college town, so you’re gonna have a higher than average number of loud cars around you. Doesn’t mean you’re getting old. Constantly being exposed to that would eventually become tiresome for anyone.
That’s something I distinctly remember when I was in school, lots of loud cars. I specifically remember this guy who lived clear across the street who owned a ridiculously loud silver 350Z, and despite the distance it was still plainly audible every time he started it up… thanks to him, I will always and forever hate the horrible droning exhaust note of a Nissan VQ engine. Damn things sound like ass.
dam_sharks_mother@reddit
I'm always interested in hearing
Played out, don't need to hear again * Chevy pushrods. If the sound could either be Escalade or a Corvette, you fail. Exception: cammed engines * Burble tune B58. Bro, it's a SUV engine. Not motorsport, doesn't sound good. You're cosplaying. Next.
Engine sound that get a lot of undeserved hate * Nissan VR38DETT. Somehow it sounds good even though it's a Nissan and a V6.
jamesgilboy@reddit
It's called growing up. I used to love my obscenely loud MR2. Now, I leave the silencer in at all times because it's too loud to take the T-tops off otherwise.
No_Camera9108@reddit
22 years of ownership with my 91T so far and I've only run fully stock exhaust, stock muffler with bipe, HKS sport (stock style single canister with two tips and 2.5" piping), and TCS single muffler dual tip (3" piping). I've always hated loud exhausts.
jamesgilboy@reddit
Mine's an Apex GT Spec that's at least 3.5in single-exit. One of the best-sounding exhausts, but unfortunately also pretty deafening.
OneRobuk@reddit
there's a large difference between a car that sounds good and a car that's loud. sadly too many people don't know that difference
Ftpini@reddit
I loved the sound of my stock Mustang GT 2014. It was just loud enough. I hate how loud modified exhausts get and even think the valved exhaust ford uses today goes way too loud. At least once a week I get woke up by street racers in the middle of the night. And yet, the one thing I miss from my Mustang is the glorious noise it made.
Tsao_Aubbes@reddit
you and everybody else pal
AzNightmare@reddit
You're just not as big of an enthusiast that you thought you were. Nothing wrong with that.
Exact_Mastodon_7803@reddit
Loud tuned exhausts that are not factory are for small d*cks. Burbles and pops and bangs on your Golf, Civic, or WRX, gtfo wit that shit.
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
My car has a factory pop, part of the reason I bought the damn thing.
Exact_Mastodon_7803@reddit
The Camaro? V8’s are a different story.
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
Yea, I love the LT1 pushrod sound.
Exact_Mastodon_7803@reddit
So do I!
Public_District_9139@reddit
Loud for the sake of loud is moronic.
sickmemes48@reddit
This is why valved exhausts are so fucking awesome.
Fulllyy@reddit
Nope, you’re not getting old, I hated the obnoxious loud ones when I was 19 and building fast cars, they’re extra obnoxious when they have popping tips on them, they’re for people who have slow or “eh” cars but want attention. A truly fast car will have a deep rumble but it doesn’t get loud in parking lots cuz I’m not speeding to my parking spot, it’s only when dusting those pretend fast cars I let my car get loud.
It’s pretentious to have those loud tips, and frankly sounds like someone stole their catalytic converter and they can’t afford to replace it. Sounds cheap and tacky.
You’re not the A. I know this ain’t AITA, but there it is.
fast_hand84@reddit
FWIW, fast+quiet cars are kind of a recent development.
idontlikeyou85@reddit
There's nothing wrong with that. I like an exhaust note that's a little louder than stock, but not eardrum-spliting loud. I don't have patience for these 350Z owners who run straight pipes on their cars, they sound like ass!
Mr_VRBeerscuit@reddit
Loud pipes is really stupid if you think about it... I mean like in my motorcycle, I ride a bit fast sometimes and I definitely don't want more attention to be at me, the stock pipes are fine, it is way more pleasurable to be 100 km/h and silent than 30 km/h and loud as heck annoying everybody and making yourself a hate magnet.
Bandito04@reddit
A lot of complaining on this sub lately
moonRekt@reddit
That’s awfully young to turn lame lol I’m 38 and I wouldn’t say I’m tired of car noises but I don’t live in a high density urban environment so idk. I like car noises but I don’t want mine to be obscenely loud although I like driving with exhaust valves open habitually
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Yeah honestly I wouldn't say I'm sick of car noises. I drive an old Wrangler and like all the little mechanical sounds it makes, like the transmission, the old tractor motor etc. I think I just get tired of them when they are in extremes. Car noises never bothered me until I moved into an urban environment.
FauxfauxB@reddit
The issue isn’t cars with loud exhausts. The issue is people actively making their loud exhaust be as loud as possible by they drive it, at the wrong time, and in the wrong environment.
A stock exhaust Camry being redlined at a stop light in the middle of the night next to your apartment is infinitely more irritating than a straight piped performance car that rolls by short shifting at 2000rpm in the afternoon.
Affectionate_Rice520@reddit
South Park had an episode above it the people who drive overly loud obnoxious Harleys and it really resonated with me
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
Totally forgot about that episode for a second. That was hilarious lmao and I guess makes sense in this context
acaii@reddit
Congrats, you’re growing up.
nutterz13@reddit
there's a time and a place for sound. that's why they invented valvetronic exhausts.
Dud3_Abid3s@reddit
Me with my modded Challenger Scat Pack in the mornings….
https://youtube.com/shorts/f16fbCF4j_U?si=ObQ8PruHB-Uw5AR_
thememeconnoisseurig@reddit
There's a difference between loud cars in the country and loud cars in the city, and EVERYBODY hates gunshot tunes.
Snoo93079@reddit
Come join us on the light side and get an EV, the objectively superior drivetrain. Quiet, smooth as silk, and quick.
PeloquinsHunger@reddit
Unsubscribe from here. Leave this place. Be gone.
Lololololol889@reddit
I've been tired of loud cars since forever. It's much cooler when a car is audible, but not crazy loud, and has a nice tone. Also, only in certain areas. On the highway or backroads, sure. Flying by the chic fil a drive through or a neighborhood? Nah
Tutkaau@reddit
I can't stand it. Maybe u can try some electric cars which have lower noise
THEREALCABEZAGRANDE@reddit
A big part is direct injection. It just straight up sounds worse. It's very sharp and crackly, with too many high frequencies. So while minimal exhaust sounds great on an old push pushrod V8, on modern DI engines it sounds awful. A great example of this is the Coyote. The first gen remains the best sounding. The second gen sounds much worse. And when they added DI for the third gen, it sounds straight up bad without nice mufflers.
Formosa41@reddit
This is as loud as a car needs to be... https://youtu.be/CHvAz0mcjqE?si=4CsJVYjVDBDYDtXu *headphones are best for your listening pleasure
seantaiphoon@reddit
I bought a house outfront of a high-school. Yeah... quick conversion into absolutely loathing those dumb kids in the straight piped golf. Especially when you circle the block and do it 3 times in a row!
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
I expect I'll get there, but I haven't yet.
mr_lab_rat@reddit
I’m tired of abnoxiously loud cars but I enjoy nice engine/exhaust sound at reasonable level.
For that reason I have valved system, I would never open it in parking garage or anywhere it could affect other people.
Wassy4444@reddit
We’re lucky with the M2s that they don’t sound too obnoxious (at least to me) with a full turbo-back system and valves open.
mr_lab_rat@reddit
I heard the N55 M2 pop so loud it was annoying from across the street. He had catless downpipe and some valved exhaust, could have been MPE.
Wassy4444@reddit
Ah, I turned off my burbles long ago lol
DH64@reddit
I feel like it’s important to state the time and place. I love a good sounding exhaust. I hate it when it’s 4-5am, I also hate it when it’s inside a parking garage, and I also find the pops and bangs annoying very unless it’s happening from genuine overrun from a tuned engine. You can like loud exhaust but hate when people are being very annoying with them.
bandi53@reddit
Man, I have had some fucking loud cars in my past… and I feel like such a piece of shit for it now.
I live at a little 4 way intersection in the middle of nowhere, and the idiots with straight piped trucks, Subies, fucking Rams, Harleys, whatever.
I hate it. My kids are trying to sleep, I’m tired and burnt out… just fuck off! (Mostly the Harleys, though. Gotta rev it up to valve float so I can creep forward 3 inches!”
nunchucks2danutz@reddit
A loud car has its time and place, but I prefer a tame sound for daily use.
Sad_Pineapple_2245@reddit
The worst ones are the straight piped 5.0 coyote mustangs. They are soooo loud and they often don’t sound good unless they have a nice exhaust system, but often are just straight piped
froiwok@reddit
I’ve grown to dislike constantly loud exhausts too. But I will never go back to a non valved exhaust on a fun car. It just makes too much sense! Quiet on startup and loud when you want it to be.
los_blanco_14@reddit
Some people dont know the difference between a loud car and a great sounding car.
Teledelo@reddit
To draw a comparison, it’s like smoking. Back in the day when cigarettes were everywhere encountering somebody that was smoking was no big deal because it was just ambient. Now the smell of someone smoking outside across the street stands out.
Over the last 10 years, cars as whole have gotten much much quieter. Some newer internal combustion cars are so quiet they have pedestrian warning signals. Depending on where you live, I think it’s gotten to the point where a loud car is so far above the din of traffic that it’s jarring.
That’s coming from somebody who drove loud cars for 20 years
SqotCo@reddit
You aren't the only one, which is probably why valved exhausts have become more popular.
I love it on my 911. Just cruising with a friend having a nice chat, I keep the exhaust valve closed. When I'm alone tearing up some backroad twisties, I open it up and let the flat 6 sing.
It's the best of both worlds.
breasticles36d@reddit
So much this. Valved exhausts are the best of both worlds. When I leave early Sunday morning for a drive or rare occasions I come home late, I simply keep the exhaust valves closed and the reduction in exhaust volume is significant. Sadly cold start can still be a little bit higher as the car revs up to warm up the cats, but I do my best to leave quickly and keep the revs low.
Ideally I’d delete the cold start routine entirely but I don’t want to put a tune on a car with a full warranty…
BalIsack@reddit
It’s not the cars you hate it’s the idiots that drive them
poopoo220@reddit
Agreed lol I hate the noise. I love my Kona EV (and late Mini Cooper SE) for its silence. Just annoying and distracting whenever I have to drive a gas car for anything and listen to that awful sound.
EVOBlock@reddit
BMWs are the worst offenders in my area.
sevs753@reddit
Loud for the sake of being loud is stupid. Ive felt that way since i got into cars at 17. The volume that comes with a good sounding exhaust is fine. Kind of a quality over quantity thing
returningSorcerer@reddit
there's a difference between a good loud engine and a bad loud engine. the difference is one owner knows that you still need a cat at the end of the day
Smart_History4444@reddit
Yeah it’s a phase most car ppl grow out of. Some quicker than others. I grew out of it pretty quickly when i got a stack of tickets that amounted to $600 lol.
Quality exhaust/induction > straight piped hearing loss/pop tune
BudFox_LA@reddit
Burble tunes are terrible and scream instant douchebag to me
Letsbesensibleplease@reddit
I don't mind a loud car when it's worth it. Go inside a Formula 1 garage and the noise when they start up is incredible, but that's what the horses cost.
But intentionally making an engine noisy, usually at the cost of performance, seems perverse and somewhat rude. And revving without a reason is just bonkers.
don-cheeto@reddit
Me too. It's nice when playing around but there should be a designated soundproofed area for it or just somewhere off in the desert, not in the middle of neighborhoods and streets.
Frreed@reddit
Good Sounds > loud Sounds
TheGT1030MasterRace@reddit
I simply LOVE intake snarl. I don't want an obnoxious exhaust, but I just want to hear the engine. Especially if there's a noticeable VVT switchover.
SunWaterGrass@reddit
My car is mildly loud. It wont turn heads unless I'm leaning into it. I can put around town and even get on the highway without making a rucus. But on backroads when I really open it up it gets loud and sounds good (imo). I kinda like it like that, I would not want it loud all the time.
I hear other cars that are loud asf even just pulling up to a stop light. Like at 1.5k rpm it is loud as hell. If it sounds good I may giggle and think damn that sounds great, but I would never want that in my car. Just too damn loud and too much attention would be drawn. But there are a lot of modified exhuast that just sound like shit. I love hearing a turbo! The pop pop pop boom boom boom bang bang bang im just like alright relax brother.
I know it would stink but try wearing ear plugs at night?
Fuckrightoffplsandty@reddit
This is why I like piped induction sound. You get sound to yourself, the driver, and you don't annoy everyone else, win-win.
Jezzawezza@reddit
I'm in my mid 30's with an aussie ls1 sedan and its got a quality system on it.
Firstly I'll say that people should be sensible around houses/buildings where people live as there are times and places for revving/accelerating hard and especially if you live in the area as imo.
Most young people dont think properly about exhausts and tunes and normally want a cheap exhaust and lots of pops and bangs which sound horrible and the cheap exhausts drone like no tomorrow no matter how quiet you try and drive.
With a quality exhaust you can drive normally and it may still be a fraction louder then stock but its not gonna wake the neighborhood and when you do put the foot into it on a track or overtaking on a freeway it'll then be nice and loud. I dont have a "pop/crackle" tune on my car but it'll still have a small amount of burble being a V8 but only if I'm downshifting manually (automatic).
DaveCootchie@reddit
I put a cat back in my maxima. Hated the drone so I went to axle back. Came to my senses and put the stock mufflers back on. CVT and axle back don't mix unless you are really on it. And being really on it got me a ticket that cost more than the exhaust.
Carbon_Dealer@reddit
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Car_is_mi@reddit
It's not the noise it's your living arrangement you don't like. I would get annoyed in a city lifestyle with constant echoing of the average tuner car.
That said, as I age, I appreciate quiet sounding cars more than loud ones, but I like a good sounding car regardless of noise level.
hatsune_aru@reddit
Like lets cut the crap; loud cars are federally illegal in the US and pretty much everywhere with a functional legal system. You're literally saying "hey, it's your fault that you don't want to be victimized by criminals, go away if you don't like it"
intercede007@reddit
It’s definitely the noise, I like where I live.
MasterTx2@reddit
We are all car guys here, so let's get that out of the way. Like some comments mention, there are places and time for everthing. Places such as parking garages, apartment complex, late night, early morning, please be more considerate.
hatsune_aru@reddit
Liking loud cars is OK.
Thinking your preference triumphs other people's desire to enjoy their peace is vile.
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saltedeggs14@reddit
Are we talking about cars that are loud in general, or is this just geared towards the clapped out Civics/G35/37 with a full straight pipe and/or burble tune?
SidKafizz@reddit
I love sporty, nimble cars. I drive sporty, nimble cars. But they don't have to be loud. They just have to sound good (to me). I lost interest in the deliberately loud intake/exhaust thing a while ago.
DubbehD@reddit
Everyone gets there eventually lol I used to love it too. Now I crave silence from every aspect of life
anonquestionsprot@reddit
Depends on the engine and the exhaust, your shitty 1.0l with a cherry bomb isn't nice, a properly done 2jz or cammed lS would have me chop my left arm off to hear
Conscious-Food1622@reddit
One of my neighbors has a ZL1 with a nasty cam. I love hearing that thing start up in the morning
WatchStoredInAss@reddit
People who drive loud cars are attention-seeking whores, nothing else.
Best_Product_3849@reddit
As someone who turns wrenches for a living, can confirm I'm tired of hearing exhaust noise l as well. I usually always own something that sounds good but a few weeks ago I just consciously realized I felt the same the same way you are describing. And I actually put the quietest muffler on my truck possible. I'm tired of the noise being in the background all the time and I know my neighbors have to be tired of me always driving it. I think the ideal thing for me would be some switchable cutouts so if I ever want to just hear the exhaust I can switch them over. But I don't really foresee it being often enough to justify the install
No_Camera9108@reddit
I prefer to hear my turbo whistle and spool and stustustustu than hear my exhaust
Activehannes@reddit
When I lived in Germany, we had walkable cities. With bars and cafés. We would meet up for breakfast and sit outside in the morning sun. We would sit in gardens, barbecue. Drinking coffee. We could relax in the neighborhoods. Having meet ups literally right on the street of where we lived with benches, beer, a grill.
Now I live in the US and all of that is gone. It's definitely a quality of life reduction. I live in a small town (14k pop). Instead if having beer gardens and cafes, we have 22 fast food franchises. There is only ONE Cafe. ME and my German fellas from work went there once. Everyone was sitting inside and they had a single table with 5 chairs outside infront of the Cafe.
Naturally, us Germans would go outside to sit in the sun.
We could barely hold a conversation. Every 30 seconds a pick up truck would pass us with an exhaust so unbearable loud that we couldn't understand each other anymore.
I love a nice exhaust sound. But god damn is it annoying if every truck is louder than a Porsche
Suitable_Boat_8739@reddit
I think theres a sweet spot with sound that too many people go way beyond. You want to hear a nice crisp exaust note when your on throttle but it shouldnt be obnoxiously loud and when your just cruising it should be mostly quiet.
OldCarWorshipper@reddit
What do you guys think of those late prewar and early postwar Chevys with the souped up stovebolt inline sixes running a split manifold and duals with either tiny little glasspacks or straight pipes with no muffler at all?
Val00701@reddit
You are wise beyond your years my friend!
Whowouldvethought@reddit
I live on a fairly busy straight, main thorough way in my city. The loud mufflers are horrible, especially late at night. On top of the regular drivers, we get the illegal street bikes.
Unusual-Ideal4831@reddit
Loud=/=good sounding. There's a difference between a tone deaf dude screaming and a singer belting.
The_Ostrich_you_want@reddit
As someone who currently owns a 500 abarth, the thing already doesn’t have a muffler from the factory. Went with an MPX 2.5 catback and I love it, but didn’t realize how much louder it was than stock.
Sorry :(
racks1700@reddit
Oh I have had my 3 inch gunshot tune on my K24 RSX phase come and go
8funnydude@reddit
I'm 21 as well, I live on a college campus. We got a lot of boy-racer types around here who feel the burning desire to rev the shit outta their bikes and daddy's money-mobiles down the busy main street while everyone's walking to class. It's incredibly cringe inducing; The main street is restricted for only university staff & ADA vehicles, but there's nothing stopping anyone from driving through it except the restricted access signs. So the boy-racers take it as an opportunity to show off.
TSLAog@reddit
I’m the same, just older. I’m 37 and I used to have the loudest damn Hondas in the city. I now have EVs and really enjoy the silence/torque. Obnoxious loud engines just annoy my now. Quite frankly the only exhaust note I still enjoy is MotoGP.
Betterjake@reddit
I enjoy my fake racing sim noises in my car and dead quiet outside
Zlautern@reddit
I love cars and trucks that sound good with the right exhaust and maybe a tune or whatever they want. I just want it to sound good. Straight piping your ride sucks 99% of the time to listen to. It's the same class as "loud is funny" to me, both extremely cringe.
fatjumboshrimp@reddit
Ive had multiple people in loud V8 Dodge Charger/Challengers pull up to me and say they never heard a Honda sound like mine.
And it’s just a Borla catback, didn’t straight-pipe it or anything. I think a distinction should be made between loud straight-pipe cars and cars tastefully modified to be louder and sound better ☕️ 👌🏾
Vhozite@reddit
I thought for a long time that Hondas and Nissans were just doomed to sound terrible. Both can actually sound really good with the right setup. Absolute travesty that the overwhelming majority of them are modded to sound like garbage bins
STERFRY333@reddit
I have grown to love the quiet exhaust on my 740 wagon. It's nice to just cruise in silence with a slight hint of the turbo.
vishysuave@reddit
I had a neighbor a while back that had a Z06 with an exhaust on it, and he went to work at dawn. Fuckn asshole lol
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
Don’t most people go to work at dawn?
vishysuave@reddit
Some do yea, but it was loud enough to rattle the blinds in our master bedroom. Idgaf what anyone says, that’s god damn unreasonable.
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
Hmm must be area specific, my car is loud as fuck on a cold start but pretty tame when cruising. My neighbors truck though, that high pitched turbo diesel drowns out anything my car does lol.
G-T-R-F-R-E-A-K-1-7@reddit
Always comes back to the idea of consideration of others - there is a time and place for noise significantly above the usual level. It's more about the fool driving it who's trying to get attention than about how loud the car is, a considerate person can drive a potentially loud car in a mindful manner so it doesn't disturb others then there's no problem.
mapbenz@reddit
They literally think that chick's will be like "oh wow, so cool, I'll date him"
f5alcon@reddit
Look "cool" to the guys
rkuser1369@reddit
I am feeling the exact same way, you are not alone.
letsgometros@reddit
Nobody gives a fuck about your toy. Just stop
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
I didn’t make my car loud to impress you, I made my car loud because it makes me happy. I’m also 30% deaf and wanted to hear what I was feeling.
Agent-_-Smith@reddit
I love a very loud exhaust but I also respect my neighbors, so I welded 2 dumps onto my CLS’s exhaust. It’s straight piped when they’re open and muffled when they’re closed. Best of both worlds honestly, the stock mufflers make the car significantly quieter and were doing most of the heavy lifting with the exhaust. She also burbles naturally with the valved open which is pretty nice for a non-AMG.
mustang-GT90210@reddit
Burble pop and bang tunes are the trailer trash of the car world.
Everything I own is louder than stock, don't think I'm someone that's happy to be quiet. My first mod to any car is normally related to a sawzall, in some way. I've got a classic truck with headers and flowmasters on it, a coyote car with Corsa Sports on it, and a 4 cylinder sport bike with a full Brock's 4-1 system on it. I love loud vehicles.
But all these cars that like gunshots every time you let off the gas? Miss me with that. They sound awful, they hurt my ears, and I hate looking over to see some otherwise stock POS making that noise. It's one thing when a race car is actually going fast, it's a whole different thing when you're watching some broccoli headed kid just driving to school/work
uchigaytana@reddit
I've been considering a larger exhaust for my car for quite a while, because I really want the added power, but my one concern is making it too loud. I want the car to be fun, but I don't want to give my passengers a headache or wake up half of my apartment complex if I decide to get a late-night snack.
WhatColeSays@reddit
You don’t hate loud cars. You hate assholes who can’t control themselves. And yes, I am rarely that asshole that loves the sound of my 460 revving in a parking deck.
lectorlibrorum@reddit
Pops always annoyed the hell out of me. Fortunately, I can appreciate loud cars as long as they're refined.
Any-Ad2512@reddit
I love exhausts that are quiet till you floor it, That’s my kind of exhaust, So for most of your driving it’s chill but when you want to hear the engine roar it’s there when you want it
JohnDeere714@reddit
Had an eBay branded non resonated catback on my Subaru I found on marketplace for cheap because I needed something to replace my rotted off oem exhaust. Thought it was pretty sweet and had it for a year. (Barely drove the car) took the car on a small trip and absolutely hated myself after about an hour of nonstop highway drone. Ripped it off and replaced it with a q300 not long after
DiscountGothamKnight@reddit
LT1 long tube headers! Yes please! God that pushrod v8 is music to my ears!
LagerGuyPa@reddit
2006 Pontiac GTO ( Holden Monaro ) ; Cammed LS2, all the bolt-on goodies with Long Tube Headers , H-Pipe and Magnaflow exhaust. 3.96 gears , 1 piece driveshaft , eaton trutrac posi, 300M antiwheelhop axles , stubs and a bunch of Pedders / poly suspension bits. It's not super powerful, but it puts what it's got to the ground.
It's tame in the morning just warming up, even with a nice cam "lope" It is mostly quiet ; just puttering around and granny shifting. No annoying highway drone and the occasional "burble" on a rev-matched down-shift
But... me and my kids laugh like hyenas when I downshift & mash the loud pedal in a tunnel, or when I ( as my kids say: ) Let R' Rip Tater Chip ! on the highway, it's all giggle gas!
Then I pay another 6 months of insurance on it & put it back in the garage under a cover.
PM_ME_YOUR_LS_SWAP@reddit
I put catalytic converters, an xpipe and mufflers on my car. I didn't finish the exit pipes this year but that's coming next.
My quietness was validated when I was leaving a car show and a guy was standing in the way but he didn't notice me there. I need to connect my horns.
rydogski@reddit
It's the burble tunes, straight piped 4 bangers, and people straight up cutting it off completely.
ThMogget@reddit
I had cars that were quicker than the loud ones, and I left hp on the table for noise reduction. I was never a loud exhaust guys.
People hate on electric because it divides those who value torque response from those who value noise and attention.
olov244@reddit
I like a choppy v8 exhaust, it's got to be clean and an actual valve overlap not a pair of fart cans on a truck to just make it loud
I like a free flowing exhaust on a turbo, but again, it's got to be a clean sound. some pops and bangs are ok
burble tunes probably started out ok, but there's one near me, I can hear him from miles away just doing long decels with fuel popping like it's a gunshot. I want to find out where he lives and crush his car and leave a pile of car in his driveway
mike_dmt@reddit
I think the key words in OPs post are "amazing sounding engines and exhaust".
Pop tunes in cars that don't need them aren't amazing in any way.
Raspy straight pipes on Coyotes and Henis are just obnoxious, they have amazing potential, but it's wasted by people who don't know any better.
I grew up around loud cars and trucks, and I still like them. Quite a lot.
But when they are set up just for volume or popping, they just sound juvenile.
avoidhugeships@reddit
It is mostly modded exhaust that are obnoxious. A nice stock V8 mustang sounds great. You can even set the active exhaust to go to quiet mode for whatever hours you want.
Most exhaust mods are done to be loud and they sound bad.
Legal-Estate-2748@reddit
It 100% matters to the car. I can’t stand hearing bikes or 4/6cyls anymore. The rasp really gets to me. The new coyotes also but they are a lot better. I’ll listen to a Funny car or pro mod all day tho. Any LS or Hemi, SBC or BBC. The old pushrod fords… love them all. I think maybe your environment has a lot to do with it.
Defenseman7@reddit
I only personally enjoy it when the car is “supposed” to be that loud. I’m almost completely against really any modified exhaust just for noise.
Also I think you have to accept it’s really just the driver who enjoys it. My C63 is loud, and it came this way, but there are plenty of non car people who have told me it’s quite obnoxious and I understand that
BetterThanAFoon@reddit
I also hate loud cars. Especially if the sound is terrible.
You live you learn. I started young with a 2001 Camaro SS with a SLP loudmouth exhaust and headers no cats. the drone was awful. But 20 year old me didn't care if I didn't hear the radio or the people in the car with me.
Now I rock a SS sedan. It has headers but it goes through the stock bimodal axle back exhaust. I maintain a good exhaust note, I can hear myself in my car. If I want it to sing like a banshee when I go WOT the bimodal mufflers open up and I bypass the muffler. otherwise it's a streetable sound with a growl.
Jimbenas@reddit
Exactly this. It's nice to be able to open up on the highway and be quiet moving through your neighborhood.
PersiusAlloy@reddit
Almost mid 30’s here, I still love “loud” cars with an exhaust system too.
The ones that sound like shit with a straight pipe in their 100hp Miata are the worst
klayman69@reddit
It is the sounds quality and not how loud it is. I love my S63 engine sounds even in comfort mode. This is what keeping me from moving to EV at the moment.
Cake_Nelson@reddit
When it’s loud and it sounds great, no one really minds because we all nod our heads in collective agreement and say “nice.”
But when it’s loud and sounds awful because it’s a straight piped 3 series or a civic with an autozone muffler, yeah that shit sucks. And sadly, there’s a lot more of this group, than the good group.
jimbofranks@reddit
Welcome to adulthood.
ChosenPrince@reddit
depends on the car, but yeah i suppose this applies to the majority
boxyship@reddit
Yeah, i think valved is the way, respectful in residential but when i get on an on ramp or twisties i can really hear it
nunya3206@reddit
I’m am a car girl well woman. Probably just slightly younger than your parents and I love it. I will say no cats, straight piped is a little much but I can appreciate all the noises.
I also don’t live in a major city or go to parking garages so I don’t experience them like that. I sleep like a rock and all the animals are used to exhausts so no one would even bat an eye at race car noises in my house.
Scared_Brilliant6410@reddit
I mean, who doesn’t love that straight piped dodge charger or 4-cyl mustang? They’re letting us here those sweet sweet noises. /s
TangoIndiaTango420@reddit
Personally, I love the people with GOOD sounding exhausts that rev it through my colleges parking garage. The ones I hate are the people that think their straight piped V6 mustang sounds cool. It’s 100% the sound it makes that determines if I love it or hate it. That said, I have a catback and it’s pretty loud so I try and stay more quiet cause I know people don’t fuck with loud cars in the am
xChiefAcornx@reddit
I prefer the sound come from my intake than the exhaust. Only really noisy when you're getting on it, doesn't blast the people behind/around you, and doesn't have that drone in the cabin when you're just driving down the highway.
ChasedWarrior@reddit
It's dumb. It's like Mr police officer please look at me
-tink@reddit
Aftermarket exhaust should be illegal. Fuckem.
moba999@reddit
My hot take is that most cars today are just loud but don't have a nice tone to the sound
also: Intake noise is sexier than a a low quality tone. Loud does not mean nice IMO
Tomcat115@reddit
Nah, that’s normal. I like good sounding cars myself, but I’m not a fan of idiots revving their straight piped shit boxes every chance they get or having those annoying burble tunes all the time. I prefer a car that sounds fairly normal when driving normally and can “open up” when you get going. I don’t need to wake up half my neighborhood when I start my car in the morning.
Bombaysbreakfastclub@reddit
I don’t even like loud stock exhausts.
durrtyurr@reddit
A Silver Seraph is 30k sorted, just get one of those.
khazixian@reddit
I see a Buick and AARP membership in your near future OP
WhiskeyDabber67@reddit
I still enjoy a quality sounding motor even if it’s loud. But that’s to a point, if they kick it down on the road passing me and it literally hurts my ears while I’m driving my straight piped semi truck… it’s to fucking loud. Same goes for Harley riders with ridiculous exhaust they floor it as much as possible.
If the shit hurts my ears while driving a semi truck even with the window up, it’s ridiculous and rude as fuck.
aldabomb@reddit
I LOVE THE CUYLLE - CHYTIL - KAKKO LINE SO FUCKING MUCH LETS GOOOOOOO
Lazy-Research4505@reddit
My X5 M with MPPSK exhaust is the perfect amount of noise. I can hear it, the guy in his car right next to me maybe hears it a little if his windows are rolled up (although that's not my intent), but nobody else in traffic or a parking garage really registers it.
On the other end of the spectrum there's a young Saudi guy in my building's garage who has a C8 with straight pipes. Total look at me behavior.
Hirogen10@reddit
I'd rather be able to listen to a podcast when driving and also try driving normal people in a fast car and they wont be impressed with speeding and breaking hard etc. went from A3 diesel to S4 petrol and tbh lost interest and worry about the cost if things go wrong with it eventually
Kruzat@reddit
I traded my G35 for Model 3 back in 2018. I thought for sure I would miss the sound of it (not that it was particularly good) but, alas, nope. I don't miss it at all. It draws unwanted attention and it's annoying. Glad that phase of my life is over!
CortaCircuit@reddit
No, you probably hit shitty loud cars. I bet you wouldn't mind the sound of an Lamborghini V12... But that dog shit 2002 Subaru WRX that comes down your street at night... Yeah, I'm sure you hate that.
burgurboy2@reddit
I started feeling the same way a few years ago. Cutouts for the win!
When I feel like hearing my sequential turbo OM606 at full volume, I open up that 4" straight pipe. It's amazing. The LP turbine spooling at 3500 sounds like a jet engine. Then it's beautiful inline 6 noises all the way to 5500rpm.
Then with the cutout closed (the other 99.9% of the time) it's silent.
AtomWorker@reddit
Loud, properly tuned exhausts are fantastic on a race track. On public roads, whether it's being stuck besides a loud car on the highway or having them blow past at 1am is annoying as fuck. It also wasn't quite so bad decades ago when they were a lot less prevalent but now every cargo cult idiot mindlessly gets one installed.
Inconsiderate stupidity like this is why regulations arise.
notthelettuce@reddit
I used to want a Challenger so bad until I lived in an apartment complex and all you could hear at 1-3 am every single night was half a dozen Chargers and Challengers doing burnouts and donuts in the parking lot.
Aurashock@reddit
I used to tune the shit out of my Subaru legacy and self made my own obnoxious crackle tune on it even though it was n/a and an auto… until I killed the ecu by reflashing on with low battery. Jump to a month ago and I bought a 300zx with some issues but no frame rust, which is unheard of for the rust belt. The previous owner did do a muffler delete but it’s just so subtle until you hit 5k rpm’s then it reminds you why you bought it. Exhaust will be one of the last things I fix because the sound quality and quantity are just weirdly appropriate for it, not quiet but not obnoxious
BeautifulCuriousLiar@reddit
You’re not alone and I’m from South America. The VW/Audi cars with the EA211 and EA888 are popular here in Brazil and as we know tunes for them are common too. I absolutely hate the sound they make. I don’t know how it is from the inside but the sound outside is absolutely shit, rarely have I found one that actually has a good sound, so rare I can’t remember. I don’t know if it’s due to thr lack of a good exhaust, most likely because it’s either hard to find or expensive here. I think the GTIs and A3s are cool cars, but the tunes and crappy exhausts have ruined them for me.
TheTimeIsChow@reddit
In my life I’ve owned a wrx, sti’s (x2), an S5, and rs7’s (x2). All with performance cats, headers, cat backs, etc.
From 21 through like 30? The louder, the meaner, the more disrespectful, the better… until it wasn’t.
I’ll never forget waking up and simply just being over it. Hard to describe, but it went from love to embarrassment overnight.
I bought an EV within 3 weeks of not being able to shake the feeling. It literally doesn’t make a noise unless I’m in reverse. Complete polar opposite.
Cruising around in complete silence, just listening to music, but knowing the absurd amounts of power that sits at your foot and is available in an instant…is pretty fucking awesome.
Nobody looking at you. No worrying about waking up the neighbors at 5:30am. Nothing.
sae1ohh@reddit
It gets worse too as you get older too lol
LEntless@reddit
1- Mustang GT Normal Mode
2- Mustang GT Track Exhaust Mode, with toggle option to bring it back to Normal Mode around pedestrians/residential areas.
3- Any louder on the street isn't really needed.
4- Mustang GT with X Pipe, Long Tube Headers, Full Exhaust is awesome on a drag strip or track, if it's not my street car.
Just using the Mustang GT because it's a good reference that most people know. It also applies to most cars pretty well.
BagBoiJoe@reddit
My high-school car was a black Lincoln Mk VII LSC. It was my mom's years before. I resurrected it. Got it running and eventually cammed it, cut the pipes and took off the whole exhaust right before the cat. I thought it was the most bitchen thing ever. My neighbors hated it. Everyone gave me dirty looks. Now that I'm older, I get it.
enhancedgibbon@reddit
I've modified pretty much everything in my car, but other than a high flow cat the exhaust is stock. I think it sounds perfect and if it flows enough to put 500 to the wheels I don't see the point in changing it. My intake on the other hand probably adds zero power but makes the most addictive dose noise. Sounds like an angry turkey and is pretty loud, but only when I want it to be.
ashkanz1337@reddit
I feel like this is isn't about "loud cars being bad" and more "assholes with loud cars are annoying".
TDaD1979@reddit
Lets be clear you are tired of loud SLOW cars sounds like if it was a 454 shit box that runs 8s for 8 then its gtg.
M4K4SURO@reddit
Love how quiet my Tesla M3P is, can go fast and not wake up the whole neighborhood.
akaneel@reddit
I think I prefer a good balance between solid cabin exhaust noise and also not annoying anyone else.
LunchBoxMercenary@reddit
I went to a Buffalo Wild Wings to pick up some food, and some Acura in the parking lot had a loud ass exhaust and was just revving in his parking spot making pops and bangs. It was so fucking loud and obnoxious, legit sounded like fireworks going off 5 feet away from me. I just kept thinking to myself “what a fucking child this guy is”.
I get my car has pops and bangs from factory, but I really try not to set it off.
Anarchiez@reddit
Try a motorcycle exhaust. My 08 CBR600rr makes me deaf every time I ride it.
Jay_Diamond_WWE@reddit
Me too. I miss having a luxury car. It was insulated from the outside world so well that I barely noticed the engine or sirens. My jeep isn't bad, but the tire noise drives me nutty.
JS1VT51A5V2103342@reddit
Loud cars used to mean powerrrr. Now they're just loud to be loud. I don't blame you, and feel the same way. Get a performance EV and silently win every single drag race for the rest of your life against these fart noise machines.
ravenous_dc4@reddit
Nice blog post
Da_Funk@reddit
I like stock loud not modded loud. I loathe mid muffler deleted Scat Packs making a racket going 35 mph. I like that mine is stock and can sound loud when I want but otherwise it growls and purs in a very soothing way for me, not bothering anyone else as I cruise along.
cmz324@reddit
Lol yea living in a college apartment along a busy road will do that, I've been there.
Fujita21@reddit
Much more common than you think. I'm 20, pres of a local car club and loud exhausts are a scourge when you're trying to keep things quiet and not get meets shut down. I have the mildest cobalt muffler on my miata and it's perfect. I like being able to floor it without feeling bad for everyone around me. Intakes are the way. Roar in the cabin, not much goin on outside.
imaboringdude@reddit (OP)
These comments give me comfort haha, I also had brought it up to my mom and she just smiled and said "I think you're just growing up". But yes, I'd say I'm okay with loud cars IF they sound good and it's not at like 3 am.
yellowcroc14@reddit
Quality > Quantity
I still think an NA V10 or something like the c8 z06 is music to the ears, and they’re not quiet. But some dude with a burble tune on his straight piped Charger? GTFO
tofulo@reddit
Intake noises are quieter and sound cooler than a loud exhaust
967-387@reddit
I had axleback muffler deletes on my va wrx. I thought it sounded great while driving and ripping through gears. But the drone/cold start when I leave work at 5am made me feel bad for neighbors since our houses are so close together. Back to stock for me and it's so nice having a quiet car again
ChromeExe@reddit
been thru that, i’ve vowed to never have a loud car, and when i do finally buy my first sports car ill get a valved exhaust for this very purpose. Guy down the street has a prelude with a fart can, absolutely despise him and his car.
Resident_Rise5915@reddit
My older brother had a WRX with a loud exhaust and his kids could always tell when he was about home because you could hear the thing from like a mile away. I’m sure his neighbors appreciated knowing that too
muduke@reddit
Even as a dumb teenager I would back my car out into the street just using gravity before starting it to minimize the amount of time the engine was revving. Loud exhaust is only part of the issue, it's mainly about how big of a douche you are.
dsm582@reddit
Its funny that growing up in the 90s i used to think loud cars were shitty broken down ghetto racers and the quieter the car the nicer it was.. probably bc my Mazda mx6 had a hole in the exhaust and was loud as shit until i got it repaired. when tesla model S first came out I thought it was cool as fuck how quiet it was. Being a car fan myself as I got older and more $ i got louder cars, M5, 911, TRX , hellcat .. i never would purposely be loud at night or the AM , that being said when I was young i would blast my car stereo w amp and subwoofer at 3am in queens with buildings amplifying the noise… i think its just a maturity thing, so loud cars with immature owners do annoy me
Actraiser87@reddit
I hate excessively loud cars or those lovely BMW burble tunes that sound like absolute trash. My car can be loud if I want it to but I usually keep it quiet. Attracts less attention that way.
VTEC168@reddit
I still love loud cars as long as they have the lap times to back it up. And I don't mean the Nurburgring lap time you looked up on Google. I mean YOUR lap time at your local circuit or autocross course. Cuz if you're gonna rev the shit out of your engine that's where I wanna see you do it. That way everyone can see if you're actually fast or it's just a bunch of noise
HeyItsPanda69@reddit
I don't blame you. This is one of the reasons I went to electric. It's just so damn fast, and more quiet than my Jaguar XJR which was supposed to be quiet speed. I've always loved quick sedans, I've had a lot. I still have a big block V8 if I want the burble and just cruise around. It's just no longer my primary focus lol
fakewintertime@reddit
I swear people see large apartment buildings like the one I’m in and think “Man everyone living in there is gonna love the sound of my car!” No one likes it.
wanderer8722@reddit
I'm tired of loud exhausts on slow cars/trucks lol i prefer a quiet exhaust with cutouts 🤘
redtoad3212@reddit
imo theres a difference between loud cars and LOUD cars. Some cars are louder than usual but have a good quality exhaust sound. Other people just slice off half the exhaust and make it so loud its not possible to sound good
marrrrell@reddit
Oh buddy my dad told me I would get to this point. When I was 18, everything had to be loud and obnoxious or it was lame. Now at 30 I cringe whenever I hear something too loud.
It just sounds farty and doesn’t sound nice if it’s too loud. I’m babysitting my buddy’s coyote swapped 01 cobra with SLP Loudmouths on it while he’s stationed in Japan. I hate going anywhere near full throttle bc I just feel like I’m pissing everyone off in a 5 mile radius. It’s just too much. I’ll take my quiet throaty exhaust with a turbo whistle any day.
Total_Information_65@reddit
I feel like this is normal. You got my upvote for being a responsible car dude.
Privateer_Lev_Arris@reddit
It's so annoying and it speaks to the infantile nature of the car culture unfortunately.
Human_Contribution56@reddit
There's good sound, and then there's loud. Many believe them to be the same things.
spizalert@reddit
You're not alone on this.
The Civics getting the snap crackle pop is always inevitable, but the thing that hurts me the most is when dorks ruin ALREADY GOOD SOUNDING cars with $200 RockAuto exhaust kits. BMW 3series and Challengers come to mind. Bruh.
daxelkurtz@reddit
don't worry, there are a whole new crop of people turning 16 every day
twiggymac@reddit
It's really funny how most cars that win the races I enter are quiet, and most of the slowest pieces of shit are screaming just exiting the pit lane
t-pat1991@reddit
Cars are definitely on average much quieter than they used to be. Mufflers are far more effective at reducing overall sound levels more than they used to be, more cars are turbocharged, and displacement has gotten smaller.
That said, I still enjoy the sound of my car. The best part about it is having an electronically valved exhaust, which lets me start the car and leave the neighborhood in stealth mode, and open it up when I get into more rural areas/track/car shows, etc where it's more appropriate.
fdot1234@reddit
I’m right there with you. The Fabspeed I have on my Boxster is not long for this world, I just need to find an OEM exhaust to replace it with.
dannyphoto@reddit
I have a love-hate with them for sure. As long as it sounds good, I don’t care. I just hate cars that are loud and sound bad, which is obviously subjective.
3MATX@reddit
I had a high school hero 4x4 with a true dual exhaust. My next car I had the choice of a Mazda 3 speed or the 2.5l manual. Visually the speed wins but when I tested them back to back I found the relative silence being a big factor in not choosing the speed.
EastRoom8717@reddit
I’m with you, started with the loudest possible, eventually just gave me headaches. That’s how I know I’m old.
stefpsa@reddit
Im not too far off from you. What I see differently when you have a louder car that sounds amazing versus a loud car that sounds obnoxious ie. A bad straight pipe set up. An amazing sounding exhaust can make a car 10x better.
balconyseat@reddit
Cars and motorcycles both. And no, I'm not saying anyone has to drive an electric.
Fishman76092@reddit
Sold my CT5V BW partially for this reason. No option to turn the cold start off in the mornings. Always loved loud cars but no longer.
IWantToPlayGame@reddit
You're not alone OP.
I'm a 'car guy', just like you, but despise cars that are overly loud. There's a time and place for everything, but doing it early in the morning/late at night/in a residential area is not the place for it.