Budapest: Disappointing Experience and Harsh Realities
Posted by AxioEstTresMechant@reddit | budapest | View on Reddit | 143 comments
I've been spending some time in Budapest recently, and I wanted to share my honest impressions of the city. This is purely my personal opinion, but I found my experience to be quite disappointing for several reasons.
Firstly, it's hard not to notice the overall state of the buildings and streets. Many of the buildings, even in central areas, seem to be in a degraded, sad condition, with peeling paint and crumbling facades. The streets are often dirty, and tags and graffiti cover a lot of surfaces. It feels like there's no respect for the architecture or public spaces. On top of that, advertisements are plastered everywhere—even over older, more beautiful buildings. It's as if only the worst aspects of capitalism have been embraced, with no regard for preserving or highlighting the city's charm.
Customer service is another point that really stood out to me. It's not uncommon to encounter rude or indifferent attitudes, which left me feeling quite unwelcome. This, coupled with the general atmosphere, gives the impression that tourists aren't particularly liked here. While I understand that tourism can sometimes be overwhelming for locals, it still felt quite different compared to other places I've visited.
High Prices Compared to Salaries
Another issue that stood out to me was the relatively high cost of many things in Budapest. Compared to what I understand of the average salary here, the prices seemed disproportionate. It made me feel that the city doesn't even offer good value for tourists, except perhaps for hotels and accommodation in general, which were reasonably priced.
Then there's the urban layout. I found it quite frustrating at times, almost as if the city grew without any real urban planning. It can be absurdly difficult to navigate; I had to make some long, unnecessary detours just to cross a road or get from point A to point B. It gives the impression of a place that developed haphazardly, without much consideration for ease of movement.
Tourist attractions, too, were disappointing. Many places are under construction, and the work seems to be progressing at a snail's pace. It feels like the city is trying to put its best foot forward for visitors, but the effort just isn't there. The result is that many areas feel incomplete or neglected.
Visual pollution is also a big issue for me—there's an overwhelming number of ugly shop signs, poorly thought-out banners, and cluttered storefronts. It gives the impression of a city without a cohesive vision, where aesthetics have taken a back seat to whatever can be put up quickly and cheaply.
To be fair, there are undeniably beautiful landmarks like the Parliament and the Fisherman's Bastion. These are impressive places, but they were built long ago by people who are no longer with us. Since that era, I feel like little of note has been added to the city. Perhaps it's time for Budapest to stop being overly proud of achievements from centuries past and start looking towards the future. The city has potential, but it needs a vision that goes beyond just resting on the glories of the past.
For the moment, Budapest just feels like a shithole. It needs serious attention and change to live up to its true potential.
ImpressiveLibrary0@reddit
Is that man in the photo ok..?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Do I have to pretend I care?
ImpressiveLibrary0@reddit
Why so rude?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I'm not rude, i'm just saying i have no empathy for a random alcoolic, drugged man who made bad choices
ImpressiveLibrary0@reddit
Ok then say he’s drunk or on drugs. From my perspective it looks like an elderly person who has fallen over on the train.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Sorry. Since I was actually there, in that subway, I knew he was an alcoholic/drug addict, not someone who needed help (even though, in a way, yes, drug addicts and alcoholics do need help, but I'm not Jesus Christ, I can't solve that kind of problem, and I thought it was obvious to everyone).
Rest assured, if it had been a "normal" person who needed help or had fainted, of course, I would have gone to check on them and asked if they need me to call for help, etc.
But this time, it was just a drug addict alcoholic used to this kind of situation, and there's nothing I can do for him.
EvenAd1314@reddit
Well noted! Goodybe! 😎
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Your attitude is a reflection of a bad mentality ;)
Nice_Bad9416@reddit
Well you just insulted our city and called shithole and I think that’s a great response for that. I’ve been in many cities which were disappointing in real life because social media is only portraying the best picture but I’ve never had the audacity to make it into points why that city is shit to the locals. Also Hungary has a lot of financial issues because our politicians basically stealing the money from the government. Our hospitals, schools, healthcare, educational systems are in bad conditions. The salaries are low. Mental health care is basically none, there are a lot of homeless people. But still tourism is one of the things that gets a lot care and you just insulted that. So yes, noted and goodbye
CheesecakeNew6059@reddit
I have just visited Budapest and it will be my favorite city ever. Please don't pay attention to such comments. I also found people being friendly in a special way. They are also super honest to tourists, the one thing I value a lot. Being from USA, I also noticed a lack of homeless people around (believe me you don't know anything about homelessness if you didn't see American cities). And how beautiful it is! I could compare it with Saint Petersburg. I don't know what's the point of op whatever... he or she 's so wrong.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Ok, thanks for you honest answer. I want to let you know that my intention was not to insult anyone.
EvenAd1314@reddit
May i ask, where are you from?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I share your opinion about Paris, and I could make a similar critique of it myself. However, I still think that aside from the security issues—which, it's true, are worse in Paris—it’s not really a matter of comparing Paris and Budapest. Paris remains objectively more beautiful and better maintained. The security problems are mostly due to immigration from North Africa And Pakistan.
But remember i'm not Parisian, and my aim is not to compare Paris and Budapest here.
EvenAd1314@reddit
Yes, but capital cities are usually full of graffities and problems.
Visit the counteyside, you BARELY see there graffiti. You can watch our biggest countryside cities on google maps by yourself. Clean graffiti-free cities.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Of course, there are graffiti everywhere, in most European capitals. For example, I’ve been to Lisbon in Portugal, and the problem is similar (just one example among many). But it’s true that in Budapest, the combination of everything crumbling + graffiti makes it a lot.
My opinion.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
So as you can see, I’m not burying my head in the sand or in denial. Paris also faces a lot of problems, but in my opinion, they are generally different from those in Budapest.
EvenAd1314@reddit
I have never ever called a place a "shithole". Millions of people call Budapest as their home. We love it, and yearly 15 million of tourists visit it, and they love it. All my expat friends love living here. Agree with many points tho.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Maybe I should apologize for the word that might have been a bit provocative and caused a reaction, but I deeply believe that many people don't give their honest opinion in order not to hurt others and end up finding everything beautiful. They could go anywhere, see anything, and they'd say it's great and beautiful. A lot of people are like that.
Maybe also it's because some people are in their twenties and it's their first time discovering a new country, so for them, it's an amazing experience.
Often, people love a place because of the emotional connections they have with it—I mean the people they've met and the experiences they've had.
But here, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the objective state of the city.
EvenAd1314@reddit
The video you recorded is in the old downtown, which was the ghetto during the war, and remained a poor area during the communism as well. The estate statuses still a lot of times are unsure and undecided. But there has been a lot of improtvements the past years.
You can see similar graffities and buildings in Rome, Lisbon, Barcelona, Athen, Nicosia, Belgrade, Bucharest, Split, Marseille, Paris, London, Krakkow.
You havent visited completly different districts.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks for taking the time to share which districts you find prettier. Personally, I also noticed that some areas are better, but that doesn’t really change my overall opinion, especially since they are better but not breathtakingly beautiful or particularly exceptional. They’re just more residential neighborhoods.
I’ve been through the different districts and I agree that they are nicer and better maintained. But as I mentioned, I think they are just calm, residential areas that don’t really represent the downtown core.
Nice_Bad9416@reddit
Just think of shrek I always say Budapest is like an onion has lots of layers ✨
adv0catus@reddit
Yeah, it’s us. Not you.
Everyone else is wrong and you’re right.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Sorry, but yes, it’s you. When someone takes the time to write an honest, well-argued, and constructive message, just saying "okay" shows bad faith and indifference ;)
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
What could we do with your bad opinion? We are depressed. We are struggling with mental breakdown. We can't really deal with bad opinions anymore.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Ok, I understand. I'm sorry about the situation you're in. Could you elaborate a bit more on what you think causes this anger and frustration in Hungary? Even though I've already read about it and think I have some understanding, I'm curious to hear your perspective in more detail.
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
I wrote about that in private.
adv0catus@reddit
You missed your calling as a comedian. “Your city is a shit hole” isn’t constructive.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
But I said things before that, maybe you didn’t see them :)
picurebeka@reddit
I think you had something like Paris-syndrome. You had unrealistic expectations and a ton of ignorance, that could not result in anything else than disappointment.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I am French and i do have not the Paris syndrome. I've visited almost all of Europe, and so far, Budapest is the worst city I've visited.
picurebeka@reddit
Being French has nothing to do with having or not having Paris-syndrome. Your review's tone however comes from a very distinct cultural difference I have experienced with French people. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it, or word it in a way, that is not offensive. Your ignorance about the city and its history also cannot be explained away.
I also doubt that you have seen Belgrade or even Athens, both are in a way worse shape in every aspect you have listed - or maybe you have been, but never off the beaten path.
adv0catus@reddit
I stayed in Belgrade for around three months spread out over about five months. There was a glass display on the side of a shop on a busy street corner. Before I got there, someone smashed the glass front and left huge shards of glass all over the place. By the time I left completely, the glass was still all over the place.
Budapest may have some litter here and there (meanwhile Paris had piles of garbage all over the place recently) but shards of glass that could easily cut your skin open (or worse) would never stay in the city.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
What exactly am I ignorant of? This isn’t about knowledge, it’s just an objective and clear observation. You lack honesty and refuse to see reality, probably because you're emotionally attached to the city.
What I meant by saying that I’m French and don't have the "Paris syndrome" is that I’ve visited hundreds of other cities across Europe, in much poorer countries, so I’m used to different conditions and I don’t have specific expectations.
I didn’t have any expectations regarding Budapest, I’m just pointing out that it’s one of the worst cities I’ve visited so far.
adv0catus@reddit
I’m not emotionally attached to Budapest. I don’t even live in the city.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Could you tell me which points you disagree with? Maybe you think the city is clean, that there aren’t any graffiti, and that the buildings are new and in perfect condition?
CheesecakeNew6059@reddit
The city IS clean. Obviously it is. In what part of the city did you stay?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
It’s a joke ?
So, which part of Budapest did I visit? Well, Budapest, obviously. Not just the few streets scrubbed clean to impress naïve tourists. I explored the less polished districts, the disgusting underground passages, and the historic buildings crumbling under layers of pollution that probably date back to the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I guess if you spend your trip on a river cruise sipping Tokaj, the city might seem ‘clean.’ But the moment you step outside the center, it’s a different story: graffiti everywhere, strange smells, and an overall vibe of neglect that’s hard to miss.
So if you think Budapest is ‘clean,’ either you have a very interesting definition of cleanliness, or we simply didn’t visit the same city.
picurebeka@reddit
Thank you for supporting my point.
adv0catus@reddit
I mean, it’s the truth. But if you want to call it support! ^^
Also an additional point. I have never felt unsafe being around the city at night. Shortly after I moved here I was having a rough time and got blind drunk. Think “can barely walk and talk” stumbling through the night at 4am. Never felt for a moment unsafe.
To clarify, I was staying at hostel in Belgrade. Not in a tourist area and frequently used by Serbians to stay. As in, not really a tourist attraction.
CheesecakeNew6059@reddit
I didn't like Paris (been there twice) but I never thought that my private opinion about that city could matter anything to anyone... Btw, I liked Budapest very much and, having also visited a lot of European cities, I respectfully disagree with you.
hkfuckyea@reddit
What are you hoping to achieve with a post like this?
Many of the points here, both locals and tourists would vehemently disagree with.
passengerpigeon20@reddit
OP is almost certainly a GPT-powered bot account. They posted an off-topic news article to /r/calvados, which is the subreddit for discussing apple brandy, not a general subreddit for the Calvados region.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I noticed that many places are overrated or that reviews are manipulated, and that tourists who love the city probably haven't visited many other cities in Europe to say it's beautiful, or they might have only stayed for 2 or 3 days. For example, even Bucharest in Romania, which I thought would be worse, is a better city than Budapest.
But remember that is just my personal opinion.
AndreiTatescu@reddit
In what ways specifically did you find Bucharest to be better than Budapest?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Honestly, Bucharest surprised me in a lot of ways. Everything felt much more affordable compared to Budapest—whether it was eating out, transport, or enjoying the city. The green spaces like Herăstrău Park are beautiful and well-maintained, and the Old Town has a great vibe without being overcrowded, with plenty of cool cafes and bars that don’t break the bank.
The transportation system in Bucharest is also much better designed—especially the metro, which makes it easy to get around efficiently. The Palace of the Parliament is impressive, and the street art adds a creative vibe that Budapest just doesn’t have. People also seemed friendlier, and I didn’t feel like I was overpaying for anything. Overall, Bucharest just offers a better quality/price ratio and feels more welcoming and enjoyable as a visitor.
hkfuckyea@reddit
Exactly, it's just your personal opinion. I've been to over 70 countries and 100s of cities, Budapest is up there with my favourites.
If my opinion of a city is less than my expectations, I also don't write lengthy hateful diatribes against it on Reddit. Have some decency.
Nice_Bad9416@reddit
Exactly, I’ve seen other big cities too and even if I had a bad experience I tried to see the good in that city not made a long paragraph insulting and hating.
I’m glad you liked Budapest!!
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
If you like dirt, depression, poverty, graffiti, and crumbling buildings, I can understand why this might be your favorite city. But I'm glad you had a different experience of the city. Indeed, it's just my opinion :)
hkfuckyea@reddit
That could literally describe any city in the world, depending on the perspective. But thanks for your shitty opinion, we're all much better off without your types here.
Jazzcatflickr@reddit
as someone who would like to live in budapest, i am really trying to understand why people there are getting depressed? and i am not trying to be cynical, but i really think people in budapest don't know how or not enjoy their city in full...for me, despite many tourists, budapest is calm city, much calmer than say belgrade, which is almost impossible for living decent life...
for example, budapest have some very nice small quiet parks, and they are empty...only tourists and foreigners are there...and sometimes i wonder, why bother if no one is using such a nice places...i don't know, maybe people spend to much time inside its own houses, but i really don't know why...but, i suppose we as a tourists don't have a complete picture about daily life and struggling to get a job and survive lack of money or else...it's all about perspective...
outside of it, i think public transport is pretty good, at least in downtown, i don't know how it looks like for peope in suburbs...buildings, yes, it is visible that outside of city center, many buildings are neglected...like in every big city, if you move around things are getting uglier...
people are unfriendly in general, and not only in shops or restaurants...but, i do like how people are minding their own business and not care much for eye to eye contact on the streets and in public transport...maybe it contribute to the general sense of unfriendliness? some people mentioned depression, maybe that's the reason for bad attitude...
many homeless and drunk people around...it's a sensitive subject...it looks like hungarian authorities are pretty benevolent about them, in some european big cities it is a rare sight, i don't know how they are moving them from the streets, but in some cities it is hard to spot them...in most cases they are not aggressive, but it's just not a pretty sight...
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
💯
watshappeining@reddit
why are you even here then?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Interesting question! So, by that logic, would you suggest forming opinions about places without ever visiting them? I mean, I find there’s real value in experiencing a place firsthand rather than relying on assumptions.
watshappeining@reddit
I'm saying that if you don't like a city, why do you a) take the time and effort to write a post about how shitty it was and b) put it onto a subreddit about said city, expecting people to agree with it. Very disrespectful, but unfortunately, most tourists are like that in my experience.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
You seem to misunderstand the point of Reddit—it’s precisely to share experiences, positive or negative :)
Giving honest feedback isn’t disrespectful to anyone; it’s just being truthful.
And for the record, I’ve received messages from locals who actually agree with me.
Just because an opinion isn’t flattering doesn’t mean it’s invalid.
Maybe the real issue here is expecting everyone to fit into a nice, sugar-coated narrative or maybe you just don’t understand the utility of internet and Reddit and internet in general.
watshappeining@reddit
You come off as full of yourself and looking down at the people who live here, which is typical. The problem isn't the negative experience, you get that with every city. The standoffishness and the entitlement is. Also, if out of more than a 100 comments, more than 90 disagree with you, it's a you problem.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Here’s the translation:
This is in bad faith—a majority of the constructive and well-written comments agree with me on at least one point. The others are just frustrated people who had nothing to say except to question my legitimacy, like you, without providing any counterarguments, with each of your messages being more absurd than the last.
So close to figuring out why people travel and post their experiences online. Lol.
watshappeining@reddit
In your post: -You complain about run down buildings and graffiti and litter. You can find that in all major European cities, look at Berlin or Paris. -You complain about costumer service, without understanding that Eastern Europeans are not like Westerners or Americans, we don't smile at you or offer chit-chat for coming into the store. Seeing how you communicate online may also explain why they weren't kind to you, you get what you give here. A Hungarian will check you out and send you on your way, they're not paid to be charming, they're paid to do their jobs. -You photograph a person who needs medical assistance without his consent and presumably, without checking up on him, effectively treating him like a circus animal. -The prices are high, thank Orbán for that. -A city that was around in the Roman times and survived Turkish, Austrian and Russian opression isn't going to be planned out like a new city so I don't get your point here either. -Then you complain about construction, after saying things need to be renovated, and about them being slow, when you came here around a national holiday. -Visual pollution also comes with cities, surprisingly.
What am I supposed to take away from this? You came here uninformed about social norms and historical contexts and are complaining about things that are to be expected in a post-soviet city?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
To be clear, and this will be my last response, I’m not complaining about anything; I’m simply making an observation :) Saying I’m complaining is only your personal way of interpreting my message, which is entirely yours and says more about you than about me.
Furthermore, you’re making assumptions without knowing. I’m fully aware there was a national holiday, I’m fully aware it’s a former Soviet Union country, and I’m well aware of Hungary’s history because I’m a curious person who researched it before, during, and likely after my visit.
Once again, you’re only making assumptions, which aren’t intended to dispute the truth of what I’m saying, but rather to justify why what I’m saying is true.
But just because you explain that your homework was eaten by the dog doesn’t change the fact that you have no homework to hand in.
So it’s quite funny, because in the end, you’re validating everything I’m saying—you’re just trying to justify it by explaining why what I’m saying is true.
Interesting.
tscottphillips@reddit
“post soviet Soviet Union country”?! Hungary was never in the Soviet Union. In fact, the national holiday that took place during your visit commemorates Hungarian resistance to Soviet control! Calling Hungary a post Soviet country is an insult.
One of the reasons many of the buildings are run down in central Budapest is because of neglect during the communist era. There have also not been sufficient improvements since and one key reason is crony governance. In short, Hungary has not been as lucky as, say, France over the past 70 or so years. All Hungarians know this - and then you turn up as a guest, coming from a luckier place, and you list off all the things you don’t like and throw around words like “shit hole”! What a way to behave!
The reason many posters don’t like your posts here isn’t because the posts are critical or because people think you aren’t entitled to your opinion. It’s because your posts come across as insulting, and grossly unaware of context.
watshappeining@reddit
sure lil buddy, suddenly, when presented with actual points, you back down
literallyjeanne@reddit
Well I'm from Italy and I think it's much cleaner and safer than any european capital city. The only negative point I found is that it was very expensive.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
If you’re from Italy, I can understand why you feel that way. I don’t know other Italian cities besides Rome, but I visited Rome about six months ago, and I was indeed surprised by how dirty the city is. Rome is overwhelmed with both migrants and tourists, and many historical buildings, unfortunately, were also covered in graffiti and in a state of advanced decay.
In fact, Rome ranks among the dirtiest cities I’ve seen in Europe.
However, I still think it’s too much to say that Rome is worse than Budapest. When you step outside the main tourist hotspots in Budapest, the level of neglect is noticeable. By “dirty,” I don’t just mean litter and cigarette butts; it’s also the general look of the city. Many old building facades are crumbling, covered in pollution, and obscured by colorful advertisements, which gives the city a worn-down and unattractive appearance.
Edo00013@reddit
Outside the touristy area, trash and dirt is everywhere and the public safety is getting worse and worse.
Monster_Ultra1@reddit
It's funny that I agree with all your points and yet consider Budapest to be among the most beautiful and liveable cities (also considering safety and some other points mentioned in the comments).
Could list many more aspects to improve but for context (or just for my own amusenent), I will try to respond to the points you raised:
state of the buildings: most of the buildings you see in the downtown area have a historic preservation status which makes them incredibly expensive to restore / rebuild and almost impossible to demolish. Add to this the fact that a lot of the commercial spaces are empty, while the residential spaces are often home to poorer people with government-mandated rent. Very few effective programs and incentives to pay for the restorations
customer service: fully agree, I think this is observed by all tourists. Maybe it has to do with the lack of tipping culture (which would incentivize better customer care) or the overall unfriendliness of Hungarians
prices: very true, Budapest is among the most unlivable cities in Europe when you take the average (or median) salary and look at the cost of living. Rent is the highest in this comparison among European capitals
urban design: I have not noticed this, but the city certainly has some historical heritage that limits modern design (we got some bombings but nothing compared to Rotterdam). That being said, there are a number of initiatives to make the city more walkable. I personally think that we are criminally underutilizing the bank of the Danube when it comes to this. Lots to learn from Vienna
visual pollution: agree with this. You can see some newer areas (Corvin, fashion street, Buda side) where there are much more restrictive codes applied to the fronts of shops and commercial buildings. Probably something to consider in the downtown as well
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the detailed response, very interesting, it got me thinking about some practical ways Budapest could tackle these challenges, especially from things I’ve seen in other European cities.
I honestly think a few of these changes could really help Budapest live up to its potential.
EvenAd1314@reddit
Number 1,3,5 sometimes 6 are under constructions and developements.
There are many consutrctions and residental building refurbishments with the help of the local city council or government. It will takes several years for massive improvement, but already a dozen of buildings are finished.
City park partly just been refurbished. Rest is coming too.
Visual pollution: from 2025 mid year they will ban big banners on buildings. Also there is a plan to ban commercial things on facades as well. There is city council plan for it: Here is the plans for removing ads from shops along the boulvard:
https://nagykorut.budapest.hu/
TheWalrusMann@reddit
did you just complain about buildings in bad shape and a lot of buildings being renovated at the same time? what's your point?
also shit hole? what the fuck is wrong with you
adv0catus@reddit
They’re mad that a city that’s been occupied since the fourth century BC isn’t designed around cars. Having walked around, sure there’s some annoying cross walks or even worse, not one at all. But normal people just go around the slightly longer way.
SimoneSimonini@reddit
Uhm, Budapest? Not designed around cars? Are we talking about the same Budapest?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
He’s the one who said it first; personally, I also think that everything is centered around cars in Budapest.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Obviously, it's a good thing that important monuments are being restored, but, excuse me, the construction work is mostly in the tourist areas. Inside the city, the buildings are in bad shape, and I see almost no renovations or very few.
I didn't criticize the fact that the city isn't designed for cars. Personally, it doesn't bother me since I walk everywhere.
I'm just saying that the city is poorly designed and that the urban layout is among the worst of all the cities I've visited.
adv0catus@reddit
What?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks for all these details. Your response got me thinking about some concrete ways Budapest could address its issues, especially based on examples from other European cities. Here’s what could work:
SimoneSimonini@reddit
LOL, one not that good review about Budapest, which is not even completely untrue, and everybody gets aggressively butthurt.
Nice_Bad9416@reddit
it was how it was said not what was said
If you would read about your hometown, where you live everyday and some turist call it a shithole and making it into a points how he hates it would made the same emotional negative response. We all see this side of Budapest but we live here, nobody wants to see that some turist calls its hometown a shithole
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thank you for bringing this point up!
alexwhit80@reddit
Dirty streets? When we were there last week we were commenting on how clean the city was.
Every city that I have been to has graffiti
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I think you should change your glasses or take the time to visit the city beyond the main tourist spots, because it's the dirtiest and most graffiti-covered city in Europe. I can say this because I've visited almost every country in Europe.
alexwhit80@reddit
We walked everywhere all over the city and still commented on how clean it was.
If you didn’t like it don’t go back but there is no point slagging it off.
Barcelona covered Reykjavik covered London covered
Edo00013@reddit
You walked only inside the touristy area.
Edo00013@reddit
I’m afraid that you are right on every point. For citizens, the situation is even worse because the metro and railway systems are decades behind. Nothing receives any maintenance, and we renovate things 15-20 years later than necessary.
I’ve been to some other cities in Europe. Budapest is far behind all of them, but honestly, it isn’t a surprise to me. I’ve known since I was a child that Hungary is a poor country, our politicians are corrupt, and so on.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks for sharing your perspective. It really adds depth to what I experienced as a visitor. It’s disheartening to hear that the situation is even more challenging for the people living here. The lack of maintenance and long delays in infrastructure investment must make daily life incredibly frustrating.
I can only hope that someday things will start to improve, both for the citizens of Budapest and for anyone who wants to visit and appreciate the city’s real potential. Thanks again for taking the time to comment—your honesty is appreciated.
Edo00013@reddit
Thank you! Look… The quality of education is decreasing in all fields, including universities. We have a low number of experts, and they tend to leave the country for better salaries, living conditions, and a generally calmer environment. Cities have no money. The government either steals it or spends it on useless things.
In Budapest, only one metro line has been built in the last 34 years (since the political changes), and it’s only 7 km long. The suburban railway system (which is too short and doesn’t reach downtown areas) has not been maintained, and its trains are 50-60 years old. We have to rely on very slow trams and buses because we lack an adequate metro system. We also don’t have a useful, usable bike infrastructure. Only one bridge was built inside the city, but it’s in a completely wrong location, meant for an expo that never happened. They didn’t consider building a functional road system, just the expo, which never took place. Our bridges and overpasses are rusty and not pleasant to use them.
People are nervous, stressed, and don’t care about each other. In shops or on the street, it feels like you have to fight for your life. There is absolutely no patience.
Our government is creating a dictatorship, while our education and healthcare systems, as well as people’s mental health, are getting worse and worse.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks for sharing all these details, it really helps me better understand the issues people are facing here. I've seen a lot of criticism of my original post from both Hungarians and non-Hungarians, but I’m curious—what do you all have to say about the points that have just been raised by this commenter? Do you agree, or do you have a different perspective on the situation?
strawberry1248@reddit
You plan to donate to the cause of making it better? No? Than better keep your opinion to yourself.
Those of us who life here and agree on one point or another are doing what we can to improve the situation.
You, as a transient tourist are welcome not to come back if you didn't like it.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Sorry, but unfortunately, I'm not Jesus Christ—I can't save the world :) But I think giving an honest and real perspective on the city (which is, of course, just my own opinion—I understand it's far from a universal view) can help spark a change rather than remaining in a state of denial, which I think I see happening.
strawberry1248@reddit
Thank you. We didn't see what was in front of our eyes.
Your opinion ix invaluable and will be fully considered. /S
Tercsi1000@reddit
Overall, I agree with you. However, I have lived in London, which in my opinion, much worse in this sense. I could say most of its borough’s are proper shithole. So Budapest is refreshing to me🙂.
dial134340@reddit
I think it's fair to give criticism, but what I don't understand is where did you get that hungarians are blind to these problems from? Considering we are well know for our pessimism, I doubt there was anyone who said 'oh yeah, everything is perfect, no problems with this city at all!'...
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thanks, your comment reassures me. My goal wasn't just to criticize for the sake of criticizing; I tried to be a bit constructive and point out the issues I noticed in this city honestly, even though I’m aware that I might come across as the clueless French guy with high expectations who thought he'd find Switzerland.
dial134340@reddit
Again, what made you think we were unaware of these things?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I never said that I thought you weren't aware of these things. I'm neither arrogant nor stupid to that extent. In fact, at no point did I say that, nowhere.
The fact that I'm writing a post on a topic doesn't mean I think others aren't aware of it. I'm just sharing a point of view that others searching the internet might find, as a complement to the positive opinions that are out there. I think it's enriching to have opinions from multiple perspectives. It also allows me to see the reactions, both positive and negative, and to broaden my own perspective.
dial134340@reddit
Fair enough.
Daneee1129@reddit
Please never come back. We have enough arrogant assholes already. Thanks.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I do what I want, and if you refuse to let someone give a negative point of view, that’s a bad mindset. It shows that you're not very intelligent or open-minded—that's your problem, not mine :)
Daneee1129@reddit
You do whatever you want, just please dont come back, like ever.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
And as i said, i come back if i want :) You are nobody to tell someone to never come back.
EvenAd1314@reddit
Btw if you are still in Budapest, just try to change your glass, and enjoy the rest days. Hungarians living in a barely democratic political system, under 0-24 propaganda, which literally drove crazy the locals. We try to find happiness in the smallest stuff, closing out politics. Also the city can be really nice during the summer, maybe the cold weather made a bad impact on you, the Hungarian does not like the cold weather, we are usually grumpy during the winter season :)
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Yes, I’m still in Budapest :) My critique doesn’t mean that I find everything ugly, there are plenty of places I really enjoyed. In the post I wrote, it’s true that I mostly focused on the negative aspects because I saw that people were mainly talking about the positive things. But I’m not stubborn or closed-minded, and I do know how to appreciate life
EvenAd1314@reddit
May i ask, where are you from? Edit: just see, France.
I visited Paris in 2023 last time. I felt insecure at night, and there were naked homeless people lying on the ground in 40 degree smelling and people were STEPPING OVER THEM.
I came home around 11pm and i was yelled and followed by a local crazy guy. Also a gang from kids tried to rob me.
Also there were local gangs on the benches everywhere.
Here in Budapest NEVER felt this unsecure during the past 15 years im living here.
But i agree with the very bad state of the buildings here. That should be improved ASAP.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
*I think I already replied to you somewhere else, but let me repeat what I said here*
I share your opinion about Paris, and I could make a similar critique of it myself. However, I still think that aside from the security issues—which, it's true, are worse in Paris—it’s not really a matter of comparing Paris and Budapest. Paris remains objectively more beautiful and better maintained. The security problems are mostly due to immigration from North Africa.
So as you can see, I’m not burying my head in the sand or in denial. Paris also faces a lot of problems, but in my opinion, they are generally different from those in Budapest.
Antique_Knowledge_72@reddit
Welcome to any big city around the world. Same experience. Did you expect Switzerland level of wealth in a poor country?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I'm sorry, but I disagree with this completely false generalization that sounds like an excuse and a refusal to see reality: "It's like that everywhere, so it doesn't matter." As I mentioned, I've visited almost every country in Europe, so I think I have enough perspective to judge, even though it's still my opinion. I genuinely think the situation in Budapest is much worse than what I've seen elsewhere.
adv0catus@reddit
Are you going to completely ignore the second sentence?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
No, I read your last sentence. Like I said, obviously, I'm not expecting Hungary to be Switzerland. As I mentioned, I've visited many other Eastern European countries, so I know what to expect, but being poor doesn't excuse the fact that this people seems to genuinely have a problem.
adv0catus@reddit
It’s not my sentence.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
The second sentence was " Did you expect Switzerland level of wealth in a poor country?", so i think i answered.
adv0catus@reddit
Respond to the content of a comment with your comment challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
Then live in here for a few years, and you will understand everything people do in here...
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I believe you.
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
But we can't bear the pressure anymore. Maybe in other European countries, there is no pressure and huge amount of depression. But if you live in here, you would have suicidal thoughts after a few years, trust me.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Honestly, I believe you without a problem. I totally understand that living in a city like this could make someone feel bad and depressed—the environment is quite unpleasant, even though I do like the parks and the thermal baths.
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
No, you misunderstand me. Not the environment is causing the mental depression... Living in Hungary causes the depression, and the result of this is the trash and graffities...
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Ok, could you elaborate a bit more on what you think causes this anger and frustration in Hungary? Even though I've already read about it and think I have some understanding, I'm curious to hear your perspective in more detail
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
If you would live in here, after a few years you would either be able to survive by starting smoking or drinking, or doing stuff like sleeping on the metro. Because no one is able to bear the incredible pressure.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
That's what I thought too. You quickly get depressive thoughts with all these poor people scraping together a few coins by collecting bottles from the trash, and all this decay. You can really feel that a century ago it was a powerful empire and it must have been beautiful. Now, it just feels like nothing has been renovated or maintained since World War II.
Can you explain a bit more what you mean by "pressure"? Because I noticed you're the second person to use that term, and it intrigues me.
Horror-Indication-92@reddit
Well, it's incredibly hard to be able to live day by day in Hungary. You have big dreams in the beginning, and you realize you can't do anything in here. And the constant disappointments in life causes huge amount of depression, huge challenges each day, etc. We have harder life in here than people in other European countries. And its a fact.
And those graffities and drunk people are all of the results of these daily struggles. People are not happy in here. In fact, people are sad.
Wild_Lifeguard4542@reddit
Welcome to our life
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Are you somewhat in agreement with what I'm saying? Are you Hungarian?
Wild_Lifeguard4542@reddit
Yes, I am and totally agree
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Alright, thanks for your feedback. Just know that I didn't mean to offend anyone; I just wanted to give an honest opinion :) Even if I end up coming across as the arrogant, rich French guy who thinks he has the right to judge others.
VszVszVsz@reddit
i think your post needs more qualification of your opinions, otherwise it comes across as superficial grumblings
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Thank you, I'll take the time to elaborate when I have a bit more time. I'll support my points with specific examples.
budgie4321@reddit
You definitely hit the nail on the head on all topics.
Local staff dislike tourists as much as they dislike other locals. The local attitude is simply grumpy and pessimistic.
Public transportation in the city is fabulous from my experience however.
adv0catus@reddit
I came twice, two weeks each, as a tourist for a month total. Never had any problems as a tourist.
But I was also respectful, interested in Hungarian culture and history. I respected the language and understood that it was me out of place, not the local.
But that’s just me.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
What are you implying? Do you think you're the only one being respectful and polite? How do you think I behave—that I insult people and throw my trash on the ground? Do you think you're the only one interested in the culture when you visit a country?
adv0catus@reddit
From the sounds of it, yes. Your reaction is aggressive and angry.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
My reaction isn’t aggressive, it's just frustrating to see people like you who think they have the monopoly on intelligence, politeness, and good manners, while assuming others are uncultured barbarians.
adv0catus@reddit
You wrote an essay to say “Your city is a shit hole and you are all awful people.”
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
No, if you summarize my post like that, it's clearly bad faith. You see only what you want to see, it's up to you.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
To be honest, I think the public transport is good—there are plenty of options and it's pretty well organized. I have no problem with that. It's just that everything looks ugly, and the underground passages are absolutely disgusting.
Abakol@reddit
hungarians when they complain about anything 0-24: 👨🦯 hungarians when other people do the same: 👹
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
Haha, I do get that impression indeed, because the Hungarians I've interacted with always seemed angry and frustrated (not all obviously).
Nice_Bad9416@reddit
Meg kell védeni a hazát
LittleTravelBunny@reddit
I guessed right that you are french. Nobody in the world would write an ass long complaint about anythying, only a french person.
You should see Paris with your glasses. If i do not pay attention i would stepped in vomit almost every step i took. That city is portrayed as the "most romantic" city in the world but in the reality it is the most dirtiest city i have ever visited in my life.
Open your mind not your mouth!
Goodbye.
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
It’s true that Paris is also a dirty city, but compared to Budapest, it's paradise. For your information, I'm not Parisian, and I often complain about the state of Paris as well.
Hot_Schedule3667@reddit
....ok?
AxioEstTresMechant@reddit (OP)
I'm sharing a constructed negative opinion about Budapest—is that not allowed, or are we only allowed to say positive things?
igenigen@reddit
Go back to your shithole croissant country and don’t come back
bbcomment@reddit
hahahahahha *catches breath* hahahaha
Zealousideal_Bat676@reddit
Hat akkor takarodjal el innen te patkany senki nem kerte hogy ide gyere
adv0catus@reddit
Idk man just go invest in crypto instead