Any foodservice or grocery drivers on here hear about the new food safety rules coming out on 2026 yet?
Posted by Niko120@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 167 comments
Just left a meeting at mclane grocery. Other than taking temperature of all frozen product at every stop one big new thing stands out. We will be required to close our trailer door with every trip into the store. That means pulling the ramp closing the door and putting a lock on it. Then coming back unlocking it opening the door and pulling the ramp back out literally HUNDREDS OF TIMES every day. I’ve been doing this shit for 20 years and my back is definitely not capable of doing that
Pedizzal@reddit
McLane runs teams right? Maybe alternate one runs a load while the other stacks the next. If somebody's always in the trailer you can't shut it.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I don’t take a helper and that’s not changing. There are plenty of solo routes
Pedizzal@reddit
I have never seen a McLane guy delivering by himself. I thought teams were the standard there. I've also only ever seen them in a sleeper truck pulling a 53.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
That’s the foodservice division. Grocery runs mostly daycabs with 48ft reefers
DivinePhoenixSr@reddit
Maybe in your area. Ours cover 3+ states. We run 2 people as most routes are 18-24h long and span almost 1k miles. We do have some solo routes, but typically that's reserved for the "retired" older guys that don't care to not make the minimum since they're home daily
ElderTerdkin@reddit
Sounds like more people will quit in 2026 and they will have to raise the pay for that type of job
DivinePhoenixSr@reddit
They won't lmao. There's a reason they need drivers as bad as they do. Too much bullshit and not enough pay
santanzchild@reddit
LOL suddenly that piece pay is looking a lot worse.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
They’re gonna have to count that door as a hundred pieces every time I touch that shit
yak_danielz@reddit
do you anticipate your company "making it right" for their drivers?
Diggitygiggitycea@reddit
Oh my sweet summer child.
MystMyBoard@reddit
😂😂😂😂
MostOriginalNameEver@reddit
What are you averaging a week at McLane?
santanzchild@reddit
hell no I haven't done driver unload stuff in a very long time years. I would probably have a hernia or a heart attack these days.
MostOriginalNameEver@reddit
Dang reddit app, replied to wrong comment sorry 🤣
santanzchild@reddit
it's all good
Woodyc47@reddit
Yep
Radiant-Housing-7191@reddit
Of course some pencilpushing idiot in an office thought this was a great idea. They’ll never have to bust their ass lifting and locking doors hundreds of times a day. But they’ll sure as hell make sure we do it until we break. Then when we’re out of commission, they’ll toss us aside like nothing and replace us with the next poor sucker in line. Gotta love how they make life altering decisions for us from the comfort of their AC while we’re out here killing ourselves to keep their crap moving.
Asphinx7A@reddit
The pencil pusher works remote at home in their PJ’s
YankeeClipper42@reddit
Stay in school, kids!
MystMyBoard@reddit
So you can be surrounded by pencil pushers in an office. Yeah, no thanks.
Paid $3500 for my CDL class and never paid the government that hates me a single student loan payment.
xTR1CKY_D1CKx@reddit
I left trucking to become the pencil pusher. I haven't worn pants in 19 days.
qualmton@reddit
So you’re still trucking, eh?
ComprehensiveDark814@reddit
And makes a fortune doing nothing of real value.
Majestic-Pop5698@reddit
Hey! Hey! Hey! That pencil ain’t gonna push itself.
DumatRising@reddit
I'll push it for $2, a pack of gum, and a $73k bonus for all the money I just saved McLane by letting them fire their entire pencil department.
Litothelegend@reddit
That is why you need to UNIONIZE
ANiceDent@reddit
Ran Sysco for 4 years I would flat out just refuse it.
I’d tell them now I’m not doing it, GL Op that’s insane
clairered27@reddit
I think it may be just your company alot of food service company's don't have roll ups they have swing doors. And when I was in food service my company had us to temp log for each stop pick a cooler item and frozen and temp it and then write it down. But what you can do to keep your trailer at temp is when your unloading the cooler shut that off but keep the frozen going and then switch when you move to the other compartment. Turn cooler on and freezer off.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
It’s not even about temperature. They’re afraid that someone is going to go into the trailer and contaminate the food product wtf ever that means
clairered27@reddit
So yeah I just read the rule nothing states the closure of the door during delivery. So part of the rule is keeping a temp recording of the product of every stage of shipment and delivery and the second is preventing cross contamination and making sure trailers are clean etc. so its nothing to be worried about the only mention is not using a unit if it can't keep the food at temp. What will probably happen is you will have to wait between stops to get the temp back down before making the next delivery. Your company probably wants you to keep the door closed as much as possible but it won't help really.
chaoss402@reddit
Which new rule are you looking at?
Actual-Money7868@reddit
Because that can't happen in the store ? 😂
clairered27@reddit
Also full compliance won't be until a year after the rule takes effect. So I'm sure policy will jump around a lot while they try to figure out the cheapest way to be compliant
bentstrider83@reddit
Sounds like some anti theft measure. Trailer unattended in any given area and it's open for ransacking while the driver is taking product in.
Random thieves, disgruntled ex fast food employees looking to fence stolen food to food trucks. I often wondered about this sort of thing.
vault151@reddit
I have a friend that delivers medical supplies and they’re making him do the same thing now. Sometimes there’s actual docks too, so they make them lift up the dock plate and put it down for every single pallet.
FantasticAd410@reddit
Don’t you guys have those plastic curtains in ya trailers?.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
They want it locked so no one can go inside. It’s not a temperature thing
FantasticAd410@reddit
Yall got people stealing or something?
Niko120@reddit (OP)
We have had people stealing cigarettes in the past. This is so that random people can’t enter the trailer and contaminate food product. Makes sense right
FantasticAd410@reddit
I mean, yeah, makes sense. But damn what a hassle. That sucks
KaleyKingOfBirds@reddit
So, in a perfect world... you could try getting a letter with multiple colleagues of the trade's signatures, and send it to whoever the safety is in your area. OSHA or whatever. And just raise your concerns about these new regulations coming into effect, ask them to assess the health and safety effects of your new requirements.
It couldn't hurt to try. It might just be that they will ask all companies to equip the trucks a bit differently.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
They said that this is something that Michelle Obama has been trying to get passed for years and finally succeeded. I don’t think that a letter from us guys addressed to Mrs Obama is going to help much
robexib@reddit
Dude, even she was First Lady, she couldn't do shit with regards to passing laws.
Immediate-Fly-7876@reddit
lol still beating that dead horse?
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I don’t pay attention to that stuff or really know what that means. It’s just what they told us
montananightz@reddit
Unless you can find an actual piece of legislation making this law, you're being bullshitted.
bmoriarty87@reddit
Yes, Niko… how’s the temps in Stalingrad these days?
Todd2ReTodded@reddit
That is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard lol
Immediate-Fly-7876@reddit
Now explain how a former First Lady that’s been out of the Whitehouse for a decade got this done.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Idk. That’s just what they told us
bmoriarty87@reddit
I don’t know who sounds dumber:
You- the person (who apparently has no bullshit filter) relaying obvious bullshit from someone spewing bullshit
Or “they”- for spewing that bullshit to you.
Lock the thread- this is made up.
milkman819@reddit
Indiana has had state law regarding temp control and chain of custody for food delivery for a few years now. Sounds like someone decided to copy them. While I can see the theory behind it, the practical implementation leaves a lot to be desired.
Elegant-Reality-8384@reddit
Food Service is some seriously hard work. I did it for 4 years at Mclane before I realized I could do Hazmat LTL, make more money, and be home everyday/weekend. That being said because of this Food Service stays so desperate for drivers I seriously doubt anyone's going to enforce this heavily.
InsertCoinsToBegin@reddit
I’m at McLane food service, there’s no fucking way drivers are going to follow this
MostOriginalNameEver@reddit
What are you averaging a week there ?
InsertCoinsToBegin@reddit
I’ve been a driver helper for a year, just started CDL school this week. But guys make a minimum of 80,000-85,000 and regularly make 100,000 plus
MostOriginalNameEver@reddit
Fuck
RestoWolf629@reddit
I work McLane grocery and haven't heard about this yet. I'm at a domicile though not a DC. As for putting away the ramp in order to close the door, that's not necessary. We can close the doors and leave the ramp out just fine. Closing the doors does take time, but has become necessary due to theft in some areas.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Are you talking about a roll up door? Yeah you can pull it down every time but it’s a pain in the ass and some of ours are 30 years old and hard as fuck to pull down. Doing that every time with one hand as you go out the trailer with a loaded dolly in the other hand is going to wreck your shoulder for life in 3 months. I pull a trifold swingdoor trailer most days though. You literally can’t close the door without removing the ramp all the way off of the trailer
RestoWolf629@reddit
No not a roll door, we use tri fold. You do not have to remove the ramp.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Yours must be very different from mine and every other one I’ve ever seen. The ramp latches to the top of the floor just like every ramp. Explain the physics of how a door that just bangs into the side of a ramp when closed halfway is going to be closed all the way
RestoWolf629@reddit
our trailer
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Mine looks the same. I’m still failing to see how the door is supposed to close when the ramp is out and being used with the pins attached to the floor of the trailer
RestoWolf629@reddit
It does. Try it sometime 👍
Healthier6908@reddit
I’d give them what they want and show them the consequences of what they are asking you to do. Take your time and plenty of breaks so you don’t hurt yourself. How much longer do you think it will take you to complete your trip or do all of your stops. Will you even be able to complete all of your stops? As long as it doesn’t affect your pay, try it and see what they think of your productivity.
tidyshark12@reddit
Once of many reasons I don't touch freight. I'll drive the truck. I won't touch anything inside the trailer. Hell, at my new job, I'm not even allowed to see the inside of the trailer, even if there's hazmat 😂
I don't touch freight.
Easyd26@reddit
They better go to roll up door trailers if they think any of this is feasable
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I love my trifold swingdoor trailer and I fucking hate roll up doors
potatocross@reddit
What if you got the motorized roll doors? Seen a few guys delivering to convenient stores with them. I assume they have a key fob or something.
When they walk towards the trailer it opens and as they walk away it shut.
Azzacura@reddit
All I see is how my coworkers will find ways to break it
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I’ve seen coremark with those but all of mclanes new trailers are swing doors. They’ve got thousands of them
peffer32@reddit
I just retired but I was as Sysco for 30 years. We have a sensor in the trailer that you push at each stop once and it uploads at the end of the route to record temps.
They tried power roll up doors and closing at each trip but the maintenance became an issue. Along with drivers (including me-thank God I had my phone on me) being trapped in the trailer when the door wouldn't open.
The swinging door closing and ramp dropping would be a hard no for me. If my experience is anything like McClain, they'll forget it soon enough. Every Jr. manager always think they are going to reinvent the wheel.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
They make us do stupid shit for a few months and then forget about it all the time. This seems like a bigger deal though. There are going to be health inspector type people following us around randomly and they’re not mclane employees, they’re from the state health department
peffer32@reddit
Wow. Tell them to bring some gloves and a wheeler.
hamboner3172@reddit
As a guy who had an insulated overhead door, I'm with you. Those cocksuckers are too heavy to lift when a cable breaks. I had one break once I had it opened about three feet, damn near ripped me off the ramp when it broke, just glad I wasn't under it. That was a fun day going through the side door with 8 pallets of shit! Of course the side door is at the front so I had to tunnel my way to the back of the truck to get to the product for the first stop.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I’ve had a roller come out of the track and cause the whole thing to get stuck closed a half dozen times. Had to end the whole route and drive back to the warehouse
CaptCooterluvr@reddit
Nah fuck all this even with roll up doors. I’m not standing on top of the ramp holding a wheeler with one hand and pulling the door with the other.
strayadult@reddit
That's where you make the driver helper that McLane keeps advertising as the official "door closer and opener" and just run it.
I'm joking, mostly. Granted I was a reefer straight truck driver and would shut my door on each trip but that was without locking or anything. I ran produce and frozen for a couple companies and would see McLane haul ass at times. Some dudes I'd see on non-cdl would leave that door wide ass open, facing the sun, with the reefer off, in July.
But even at my best physical condition, I'm not latching the truck every fucking trip and temp gunning shit. They barely pay us a fifth of our worth and supply us with minimal equipment anyway.
Southern-Coffee3645@reddit
Could mean a change in how you deliver. Preload the orders on small pallets like Pepsi or coke.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
We don’t have a single lift gate trailer. They’re not spending millions of dollars instead of making us do something ridiculous
Southern-Coffee3645@reddit
Pepsi switched whole fleet from side loaders to lift gates. The one I worked at tried magliner six wheeled carts before they switched to pallets.
Beekatiebee@reddit
Plus you can retrofit most trailers with liftgates and roller doors.
Lordcobbweb@reddit
How would they enforce it?
Beekatiebee@reddit
It’s already something they can enforce, my foodservice employer does. VeroFresh uplinks on the reefers, so door open/reefer temp/runtime all gets reported directly to my dispatch.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Supposedly there are going to be people from the health department that choose a driver at random from time to time and follow them on a route to make sure they’re doing it
Lordcobbweb@reddit
There are literally a million food trucks delivering food products. It's not financially feasible to enforce. Also, freight is insured...
Don't worry. Autonomous truck delivery will be handled by robots here shortly though.
egeorgak12@reddit
There is absolutely no way that this will work. There must be some kind of miscommunication here...
stripperjnasty@reddit
I do beverage but McClain pays well. If u have to do all this, it'll add time to your stops which in theory should mean you can't do as many which means... Maybe you'll be hiring? One could hope
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Mclane is always hiring anyways because 90% of guys who go to work there quit after a year
stripperjnasty@reddit
Why after a year?
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Too much work. Drivers want to drive. Not work
stripperjnasty@reddit
I watch a guy on TikTok. U guys do a lot but it's four days a week like most of us, hard to beat. Shame tho
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I do Monday thru Friday. One local route and 2 overnights. Clock out with about 58 hours. It might be more work than you think
stripperjnasty@reddit
That's pretty good. Beats doing fuel. Hated doing 5 12s. Rather condense the work into 4 days
Objective-Outcome811@reddit
What you described is exactly what Walmart requires and expects. We have at most 8 stops in a night so that's completely understandable.
moldschlager@reddit
Walmart backs into docks that lead inside thats significantly easier than unloading from a ramp outside
wittywillync@reddit
No way drivers are gonna follow that. Lol
TherealOcean@reddit
Can only imagine 48' with 500 cases because it's the only way to run DOT legal once you include unloading times. Too many paid off politicians to see profits decline for that.
Cardinal_350@reddit
Yea....Probe everything yup. Did it all day. Every piece
lostthepasswordagain@reddit
How many stops/pallets a day in what time frame? I used to unload 6-7 stops a day in New York between 9am-3pm, and regularly went over 14 hours (I was younger and stupider) because I would need to be in early, but not start my clock (elog) until I had a trailer assigned.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
We also have to write down the temperature in a temperature log
Cardinal_350@reddit
Me to. Every stop. Yup
ImaginaryCatDreams@reddit
Has anyone explained how you are supposed to be able to get your job done in the time allotted? Isn't this going to affect service? Aren't the customers going to complain about the extended delivery times?
I did this sort of work for about 2 weeks once. When I was in training and it was me and another driver it was doable. When I was alone on the truck my second week I discovered what a nightmare it really was.
When I left on my last load that week I gave them my resignation letter when I left came back and never looked back
chaoss402@reddit
Sounds like a rumor with little basis in reality.
There is a new regulation known as the food traceability act, that doesn't seem to include any of what you said.
You're already supposed to be temping certain items, but it's not every frozen case, it's one or two items per compartment per delivery. Trailers are already locked ( if you are doing your job correctly) between deliveries, but there's nothing about doing it between stacks down the ramp.
Unless you can point to the new regulation, you're hearing rumors that just aren't true.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I can’t point to anything but I just sat there and listened to our safety director tell us that this is the new policy going forward. Hard to call that a rumor
chaoss402@reddit
I'll touch base with my safety director next week.
I can almost guarantee that he misunderstood something.
Anyway, you're in grocery anyway, you guys mostly run teams, right? The easy solution to that is that you always have one guy stacking in the trailer and one guy running stuff in. It works pretty well for the most part when you run teams.
lostthepasswordagain@reddit
When I worked grocery it was for JB Hunt running grocery loads for CNS out of CT or MA to NYC or Boston. Local/regional daycab solo unless I was pressed into training. Often delivering to small stores on a one-way street with parking on both sides. I often had to walk every pallet at least a block. Then wait for the store to count everything at last once. 2-3 times for meat or fish.
HELL NO
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I work by myself. I don’t need some dumbass telling me made up stories all day while doing shitty work that barely helps me at all
chaoss402@reddit
Just relax. He's not going to be the first safety manager to misunderstand some new rule coming down the pipe.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I hope he’s misunderstanding
heavyramp@reddit
Haha. Lots of grocery stores will just sit the frozen product in the dairy or produce cooler if the freezer is full or if the manager doesn't have time to deal with organizing. Not to mention the dumb method of simply throwing a blanket on a frozen pallet in a 40 degree temp trailer.
dtw350@reddit
Leave that miserable place. Fuck McLane. There’s much better out there.
omni461@reddit
As soon as they have to cut down the number of stops, due to the extra work. These laws will dissappear, just like the workers who will refuse and go do something else.
Crushed_95@reddit
It's this company here around Chicago name Eby-Brown that has automatic roll-up door openers with remotes that had me at ah! That might be the future for a lot of food service companies.
BenjaminAnthony@reddit
Lol I run Foodservice. No way in hell I'm doing that
brasilkid16@reddit
it's almost like drivers could use some kind of... collective bargaining to avoid policies like these... and maybe secure higher income across the industry and maybe some better benefits too?
I think there's a name for that, I just can't quite remember............
Todd2ReTodded@reddit
A lot of food service is union
Amused-Observer@reddit
A lot of it isn't as well
jarrodandrewwalker@reddit
Monoization...no that's not it...unieffort....nope...unitary haggling...man, it'll come eventually
brasilkid16@reddit
You’re on the right track, I can’t place it either!
Icy-Hat-7029@reddit
Malicious compliance is how you always win in these situations. If they enforce this where I work, I’ll make a paper log of every time I open and close the trailer door. Make sure theres a proper pre-trip of the ramp and trailer door each trip as well, and then lastly just make sure I move very slow. Goal is to make sure I not make at least half of my stops for 3 consecutive days. I wouldn’t even need to coordinate with other drivers, with all the shit that is gonna blow up in managements face at once along with half of my customers threatening to get rid of us, I don’t see it lasting a week.
Amused-Observer@reddit
LOL no one is actually going to do that.
DarthBrooks69420@reddit
Ok, a few questions to start with:
What counts as 'going into the store'? Are we talking about exiting your trailer into the warehouse? Or actually going into the area and stocking product yourself? If I had to guess, it means if you're not actively unloading into the warehouse and stocking product, the door has to be closed and the trailer locked. I feel this would effect stores like Dollar General type of zero-warehouse setups, not your delivery to a restaurant or a store with actual warehouse space. I think you're jumping to the worst case scenario here. It's more likely to be a mild inconvenience you have to find a different way to get your stuff done efficiently while doing the food safety thing. That's how food safety works most of the time.
Another thing, having experience from being a shipper, if there is a big temperature difference between the trailer and the unloading dock, shit can heat up pretty quick. I've battled many a driver when it is 99F, 110F, 115F about making sure their shit was cooled down when loading ripe produce. The amount of don't give a damn I have come across is substantial. Close the damn door if you aren't actively unloading!
Niko120@reddit (OP)
The store is a gas station. You park in the parking lot and dolly down the ramp and onto the store. They want the door closed with every trip. Some stores are 15-20 trips. I do about 20 stores a day
Beekatiebee@reddit
We already do this at Martin Brower. Or, at least, we’re supposed to. I do, pretty religiously.
I also don’t have ramps lmao. Liftgates and electric jacks all the way, only way to stay in the game long term.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
From what I heard Martin brower is what got us into this whole mess in the first place with the tainted onions at McDonald’s
Beekatiebee@reddit
You heard incorrectly, that was a supplier issue. The states affected are served by multiple DC’s, and I’m pretty sure Colorado isn’t even an MB market.
amazingmaple@reddit
I think your safety guy is blowing smoke up your ass. The only change coming is the food traceability act. Which in a nutshell is more consistent checking of foods that are specifically on their Food traceability List. It has nothing to do with people tampering with your deliveries. It's so if there is contamination of a shipment of food at whatever stage of delivery, from farms to the store, they can remove the contaminated food quicker from being in the Public's hands. Say if they got discovered a shipment of onions that was contaminated they can immediately send out a warning and be able to even stop that food already on delivery trucks. Look it up. Next time when you are at a meeting like this ask questions like what is this rule number, what can I look up for the specifics. Don't just sit there and listen to someone without asking the questions. It covers your ass because you're not going off someone else's suggestions.
Sundaisey@reddit
Malicious compliance and time out from the drive clock every night......
Ckmccfl@reddit
I’m not doing that lol
lleu81@reddit
I see people putting the entire order on the sidewalk then closing the door and delivering from there
Life-is-Hard94@reddit
That’s what I do. I have to be off the lot of my last stop by 6am. I don’t have time to be opening the door 20 times each stop. I’m also not Superman. If they want to hire an athlete. Then hire one. But I’m going to get my shit done and go home.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
That works if you’ve got cases of coke or Pepsi but the way we haul cigarette boxes and totes stacked down with candy and all of the other shit you can’t really scoop it back up with the dolly. I thought about that but there’s no way that’s going to work. Multiple dollys though and I guess you could get a few loads out between door closes
Puzzleheaded_Pea_753@reddit
I worked for a place that delivered to gas stations and liquor stores. Our trailers were designed so the door could be pulled down and locked while the ramp was in place. We had to close and lock the door to prevent theft of cigarettes. One tote was like $2,500 and in orientation they showed me a video from a gas station where this pickup truck with two dudes in the bed pulled up next to the trailer, hopped in and tossed out 24 totes of cigarettes in about 20 seconds before driving off.
Todd2ReTodded@reddit
I won't be doing that lol. I do my dvir from the warm, internet having confines of the office, without ever touching the truck or trailer. Somehow I suspect at the end of the day all my temps will be perfectly within range.
nastyzoot@reddit
That's one of those things that is never going to translate to the real world. I've done air freight at two different jobs and that trailer never got locked. Nobody gave a shit. I used to walk right through "security" at the airport with a boot knife and razor blade. This is an "office only" thing.
Legitimate_Sir6904@reddit
Glad I just linehaul to the local guys now.
MajorHymen@reddit
I don’t do foodservice but if I did this change sounds like it would be grounds for me quitting immediately. That or they invest in some automatic ramps and doors. Something you can open with the push of a button so at least all you’re losing is time instead of energy having to manually move the shit everytime. But they ain’t going to do something like that as it’s be expensive as shit. Easy to cycle through employees getting hired and quitting every 6 months.
Responsible_CDN_Duck@reddit
The easiest work around seems to be a second person and PVC air doors
To be honest with all the increases and food in equipment costs what's a bit more labor that can help unload at this point.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I work alone. I’m not taking a helper
Nointerest12months@reddit
They tried some shit about us scanning the store barcode (the store should have a barcode inside of the back door to verify the stop) like every 60 seconds, basically you would have to scan all of the product inside the store right by the barcode for the store. It lasted about a week.
That being said, they are fucking insane if they expect you to actually do all that.
Dragonr0se@reddit
If they want to do that shit, they need to hire a rider for every route and a second dolly for each truck. Then the driver can load and deliver one cart while the rider loads the second and delivers it when the driver gets back... relay like that until the job is done...
Truck is never unattended. Load is unloaded faster so that the doors are closed sooner and temps can drop back down faster.
joeyggg@reddit
Unload onto the dock and then close the door.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Gas stations don’t have docks
joeyggg@reddit
I do lift gate delivery and I honestly close the door every time I lower the gate because it does let a lot of heat in. I put 2 pallets on the gate with the walkie or pump cart, close the gate, and take them up to the door one at a time.
joeyggg@reddit
They keep creating legislation to make it so that we have to break the rules to complete our job. How are you supposed to do this with swing doors at a dock? You can’t.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
It’s parking lot deliveries
SnooChipmunks6620@reddit
My company tried something similar. Anytime a trailer got pulled off of the dock and put out to the yard, doors had to be closed, empty or not and tagged as empty!
It caused slowdowns in the service speed. It didn't last long 😂
Niko120@reddit (OP)
This is a food safety regulation. The health department is going to have people who follow us around randomly to make sure we’re doing it. There’s no “this is slowing us down” coming from the company but it will surely slow us down
SnooChipmunks6620@reddit
Say hello to repetitive injuries. Not to mention extra wear on equipment with all the closing and folding ramps.
_RamboRoss_@reddit
Some big wig comes up with a rule. No one follows it. It eventually gets rolled back or repealed. Rinse and repeat. When I drove for an Amazon day cab contractor they put in this rule that we weren’t allowed to cut our own seals at stops. You had to get a worker on site to do it.
I was doing 5-12 stops a day. Yea I’m going to take 30 minutes at each stop to find someone in the warehouse who is busy loading shit to stop what they’re doing and come outside and cut my seal. Or hunt down a yard jockey on a 1 sq mile property. I never followed that and lo and behold it disappeared after a few months. Especially during the Christmas season when dock bumping was non stop.
Nightdragon9661@reddit
Only way that will even remotely get followed would be for fleets to send out a second person with each driver. Who's soul responsibility will be to guard the trailer while the doors are open. Logisticly it's the only way lol, but won't happen.
JakeJascob@reddit
This rule is stupid but they do need to start like doing audits at stops or something occasionally. Went in the store a while back all the milk was in date but had mold in it. It was all one brand the other brands were fine.
theused5703@reddit
I will be doing zero percent of that. 😂
Parasite76@reddit
If that turns into a thing a lot of foodservice drivers will need raises. I understand the reasoning but trailers just are not set up to do that efficiently. Really hope that doesn’t cover non refer food products as well.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
It’s everything I’m pretty sure. They said that it’s to prevent someone from going in there and “contaminating” food product wtf ever that means. It’s not even a temperature control procedure
Canucker96@reddit
Thats an unrealistic ask. Maybe the store/restaurant should have an employee to stand guard.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
Good thought but at most of the rinkydink little stores we do it’s just one old Indian guy who wouldn’t move his ass from behind the register for anyone
Level_Suggestion_777@reddit
So they want to keep some asshat from going in your trailer and fucking with food
Niko120@reddit (OP)
I guess so
TwoToadsKick@reddit
I already shut my rolling door every time. But I have an electric pallet jack and a fat lift gate and only work 1 pallet at a time anyways.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
That’s a whole different ball game
RebelTvshka@reddit
I understand this stuff sucks, but man did we have fun as kids distracting the driver and stealing products out of the open trucks. It took this long to make that change? Crazy.
Niko120@reddit (OP)
They tried to make us close the doors over theft before but we just parked closer and watched our trailers better and nothing got stolen. This is all about food safety, not theft
RebelTvshka@reddit
I understand, but the real issue is still the unsupervised access of the trailers. You can't know who has been in your trailer and the company needs to show they take safety seriously.
Ok-You8938@reddit
That's new? I worked for the competition Core-Mark years ago and that was company policy 10 years go