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Girafferage@reddit

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You say MAGA and right wing, interesting let's also talk about the summer of love, BLM and antifa or have you forgotten they exist????

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CAredditBoss@reddit

All the left wing extremism groups haven’t infiltrated the main party and been elected to congress while believing in widespread election fraud.

Also, the most famous anti-fascist group came to the world’s rescue to defeat the fascists.

They do counter protests and they’re done. Not hard.

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Albine2@reddit

Please don't try that crap with us tell that to your socialist friends on reddit not rational thinking people. The entire democratic party is full of socialist and communists American hating leaders!

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Stretchsquiggles@reddit

Name me ONE elected Communist Democrat.

If you do I will ask you to explain how you came to the conclusion that they are, in fact, communist.

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Albine2@reddit

Are you serious??Everyone of the Dems are far left leaning there are no moderate Dems in office! The only one in office is Massion and he is not running, Gabby Gifford left the party and now is a Republican, there may be one or two hanging around that's it.

The Dems are so far left, JFK would never have been nominated for the party.

I don't see how's that is true anymore the Dems are the party of elites. Look at who supports them, Hollywood and big tech. The Republicans have actually flipped the script on they, they appeal to the working class more so than the Dems. Although traditionally it was the Dems who appealed to working class.

So you don't know what a communist is, you don't know what socialist policies are, you just use those phrases to describe your chosen "bad guys".

Cool

I advise you to "do your own research". Start by learning the definitions of:

-Communism

-Socialism

-Neo-liberalism

-fascism

Then with your new found knowledge define the politics of:

-Harris

-Trump

-Walz

-Vance

-And anyone else you may think of

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HurricaneSalad@reddit

Yup. That person just self-pwned themselves proving they have no idea what those terms and political affiliations even mean.

Our Dems out pretty right leaning compared to the liberals of the rest of the world.

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Alive-Asparagus8472@reddit

Are the socialists and communists in the room with you now?

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kolyti@reddit

They’re in his walls.

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Albine2@reddit

No but your mom is!

Blm and all that was very unorganized. My brother had a friend, and a girlfriend, who got pretty radicalized into the Seattle version of all that. There were some various groups organizing themselves a bit - but that was just locally. Absolutely nothing like the way Proud Boys or Oath Keepers or these types of groups have real centralized leadership, talk to federal politicians, etc. These were rag-tag groups cosplaying, you know?

While my brother still talked to them, I saw videos. I did think they were getting too extreme and obsessed. But I can tell you, 100% -- the cops were absolutely escalating things where they didn't need to. The cops were purposely aggravating them, starting things first, just provoking fights. Sure, the cops were pissed at the protestors - but it's the cops job to protect and serve, de-escalate... not go out as a goon squad of vigilantes and start revenge fights because they're annoyed. That helps no one.

It's interesting too that... blm and artifa were saying: hey, the govt overreaches. The justice system is corrupt. And the rightwing Republicans were like haha libtards, comply with orders, obey curfew, listen to rules, the system is fine.

Then after Jan 6th suddenly these patriots are like --- the justice system us unfair!!! We will not comply!! We should be allowed to fight cops if we don't want to obey orders!! These jails are like, really yucky!!!

Almost like maybe they should have LISTENED to blm and antifa protestors in the first place.

Because we really do all have more in common than the media would have you believe. And all this foreign fake propaganda and memes and fake accounts that are trying to divide us.

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elite0x33@reddit

This is my exact position. It kills me that it takes significant brain wrinkles to understand why BLM started in the first place.

After the 4th or 5th violent or needless killing with zero justice or accountability after the fact is what drove the entire movement.

Then you have assholes that misunderstand it entirely and create a whole different movement to discredit what the original argument was. Holding cops accountable for fucking up. Period. Apply the enforcement of the law equally.

Then like you mentioned, when the shoe is on the other foot during the insurrection on J6, I truly feel like the response was too light. Whether that was by design or not will be uncovered in court later on, but when BLM was marching on DC, they had the National Guard there kitted out and ready for war.

J6? Nah.

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tahhianbird@reddit

It is not the job of the police to protect and serve. Revenue agents would be a better description. Who on occasion perform riot control.

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I doubt that. You have extremely liberal and conservative strongholds. No one will notice in LA, or rural Alabama.

An empty Tire Kingdom gets burned down by an obvious anarchist (no political side), but apparently thats the same as murdering hundreds of people.

Our hunting season is shaping up to be a good one this year with the return of two-a-days for does… it’ll run from the middle of November until February… I don’t hunt anymore, seen enough killin’ … but Ill take a trip down to the endless white sand beaches and try my luck at some Pompano in the surf…

Fiery, but mostly peaceful.

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CapitalismCucksYou@reddit

"direct correlation"

jammin_jalapeno27@reddit

Eh, while the lower echelons and enlisted are more split, a large majority of the middle and upper level command absolutely despise Trump. Take for example almost every then current or retired general in his staff hates him and some even call him a fascist. While some segments of the national guard might favor trump, and there would be a degree of command and control fracture, a large majority of the combat power of the military will not be on trump’s side.

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Rev-Dr-Slimeass@reddit

Yeah I mean it's important to keep in mind it's really unlikely. We would be dealing with a number of problems here though. These soldiers, officers included, have never actually been tested on if they are more loyal to their state, or Washington. I suspect this question would have a bit more nuance than trusting command and control.

Also, you'd have to contend with an ongoing financial collapse. The US dollar is backed by the "full faith and credit" of the United States. If civil war breaks out, thats over. If the value of currency has a precipitous fall, how many soldiers are just going to go AWOL to find alternative ways to take care of their families? How many civilian workers in the military will do the same? If all of the dining hall workers at a big base stopped coming to work, what do the soldiers do? What about when the trucks bringing food, stop coming in? I'm sure the military has a good stockpile of food, but for how long? Hungry soldiers will have new questions to ask themselves.

Civil war in America would be the worst disaster to ever hit the United States, and the worst to hit the world since WW2. Of course, it's worth remembering its unlikely. Even if we had a situation where some states pledged loyalty to Trump over Harris, it seems likely that there would be months of legal action, and every other step possible to avert war.

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estgad@reddit

depending on how Kamala’s feeling + her legal counsel, she might just immediately drop the Ranger battalion on the Florida state Capitol and Mars o lago.

And thanks to scotus that would be an official act with immunity from prosecution.

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SmokedUp_Corgi@reddit

It would never work and they would be absolutely annihilated. I don’t think Desantis has dumb as he is would be willing to commit treason and suicide.

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BadgersHoneyPot@reddit

It will be over for Florida once the next hurricane hits and there’s no more federal aid to help. They’ll just descend on each other.

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Rev-Dr-Slimeass@reddit

Yeah I mean, any conflict like this would have a primary goal of unifying the governmquicas quick as possible with minimum bloodshed. That's another factor that makes it unlikely.

Part of preparation is planning for what could happen. I too think it unlikely, but not impossible. So how to prepare for a topic that incendiary without pushing ourselves toward it?

Now personally in the event of an extremely unlikely zombie attack I plan to just hole up in Walmart where they have everything I need. /s

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EmptyEstablishment78@reddit

If they open a 24 hour buffet we could capture them all at once…AUCE crab legs….🦵 but

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Rachel_from_Jita@reddit

There is only one answer: water.

If you have enough water/filtration/expertise/storage then you can survive a few days of grid down or water treatment center issues. No access to water? A day or two of chaos and then you collapse. People think supply of clean fresh water is infinite or they will always be able to have something running nearby and boil it. In some areas that's true.

But they forget the demand part of supply and demand. 300 million people in this nation, and a lot of the water is not potable.

Everything else can be survived. Even seasons of hunger. You must make sure you and your family can get a reasonable supply of clean drinking water.

diaryofsnow@reddit

Don't let your dreams be dreams, open a biolab today!

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KlappinMcBoodyCheeks@reddit

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Longjumping-Day7821@reddit

Walmart would be picked over before lunch the 1st day. When my area was hit by Helene and most people lost power the stores were all picked over within 3 hours of the hurricane being over.

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Easy_Insurance_8738@reddit

Don’t steal my idea!!! I was there first

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KelVarnsenIII@reddit

This Man Walmarts 🙂

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Lol, literally at least 1/3 of this country is so obese they have issues getting up from the couch much less engaging in combat. The largest population is over 65 and has "got theirs" so they are not fighting. Everyone under 30 is such a naive sheltered pacifist that the military is lowering requirements every year to make quotas.

Flux_State@reddit

The current administration has done nothing of the sort and the Federal Military has affirmed that domestic "law enforcement" isn't something they do.

The "border crisis" is political theater intended to make you fearful and easier to control.

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johnyfleet@reddit

I live in Colorado. The open border is a real problem here. Your political I see nothing shows your a paid bot or just plain privileged idiot living in Hollywood.

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Flux_State@reddit

Player, I don't know if you could get much further from the border in Colorado but lets pretend for a second you live in Arizona: the "border crisis" is political circus intended to make people afraid and easier to manipulate people. Democrats even said yes to EVERYTHING Republicans wanted in their border bill but Trump axed it because that takes away his circus.

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johnyfleet@reddit

Player, the shit is real in Denver and aurora.

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

The current administration stating they will use the military against the people

You are aware that Trump is no longer in office and is not considered the current administration?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-vows-to-go-after-his-enemies-if-elected-meet-two-enforcers-ready-to-carry-that-out/ar-AA1sQ9QY

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5155005/trump-threatens-to-use-the-military-and-doj-to-go-after-those-who-are-disloyal

Fact checking is part of intel -

Vice President Kamala Harris claimed at a Pennsylvania rally on October 16th that former President Donald Trump said he would use the U.S. military to "go after" Americans who disagree with him, whom he called "the enemy from within."
Indeed, in an interview, Trump described political opponents, including Rep. Adam Schiff, a Democrat from California running for Senate, as "the enemy from within." He added that in his opinion, these "very bad people" were a bigger threat than immigrants and foreign nationals. He suggested that on Election Day, it would be appropriate to call the National Guard and "even the military" to "handle" such "agitators."
Days later, during a town hall hosted by Fox News, Trump doubled down on his remarks, adding former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to the list of "enemies from within" who are "dangerous for our country."
Since Trump, even if reelected, would not be the sitting president on Election Day, he would not have the power to order the National Guard or any arm of the U.S. military to fight his political opponents or anyone else on that day.
Harris and others interpreted Trump's words as a warning of the type of action he might take during his term as commander in chief, should he be reelected.

Fact checking intel:

Millions of illegals draining our systems.

Unauthorized migrants, or those who haven't entered the U.S. through a legal pathway such as receiving a work visa or gaining asylum or refugee status, aren't eligible for most major federal aid programs, according to the NILC.
That means unauthorized migrants can't receive benefits from programs including food stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (or welfare), and Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, among other federal aid.
However, there are some federal programs that these migrants may qualify for, although they are limited. They include emergency Medicaid, which pays for the medical costs of unauthorized migrants in the case of a medical emergency. School meal programs are available to all children, regardless of their immigration status.
They can't vote and never have been able to. They also cannot run for public office.

Funny. These are metrics. 81 billion to Ukraine 2024 150 billion on illegals Dod directive 5240

Xyrus2000@reddit

r/NoShitSherlock

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thedeadthatyetlive@reddit

Lmfao there's nothing this sub wishes would happen more than that

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

The replies and up and down votes are about 50-50.

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Akjag2@reddit

With potential election fall out, threat of foreign cyber attacks, and human nature in general, I keep telling people to have contingency shtf plans now.

Stock up on essential non perishable food items, ways to defend your family, and exit strategies if you have to leave your home.

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Diesel-flipper@reddit

Out of curiosity, what are your political leanings?

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The problem with labeling everyone the same way is the lack of nuance. Not all cops are killers just like not all protesters are peaceful. It's situational. Understanding that is key to accurate prep.

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traveling_designer@reddit

EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM

POWERFUL AND CONTINUING NATIONALISM
DISDAIN FOR HUMAN RIGHTS (failure to follow Matthew 25:40-45)
IDENTIFICATION OF ENEMIES IS A UNIFYING CAUSE
SUPREMACY OF THE MILITARY
RAMPANT SEXISM
CONTROLLED MASS MEDIA
OBSESSION WITH NATIONAL SECURITY
RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT INTERTWINED - (The first clause in the Bill of Rights states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” This establishment clause, within the First Amendment, has its roots in early American thought.)
CORPORATE POWER PROTECTED
LABOR POWER SUPPRESSED
DISDAIN FOR INTELLECTUALS & THE ARTS
OBSESSION WITH CRIME & PUNISHMENT
RAMPANT CRONYISM & CORRUPTION
FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS (or unfounded accusations in an attempt to overturn results)

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11systems11@reddit

So.. Kamala is fascist also

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Flux_State@reddit

Kamala is also on the Political Right so it's normal for you to see things she has in common with Republicans but Democrats prefer the status quo of a corrupt Republic over completely collapsing it into a dictatorship like Trump envisions.

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Flux_State@reddit

When Trump promises Fascism in his next term as President, there's no reason not to believe him

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

I don't watch either of them so that advice doesn't work for me plus from my point of view it would lead to crappy intel. Here's why:

Part of gathering solid intel is listening or reading from multiple points of view. Poor intel is tuning out people for no other reason than you personally do not agree with them. I don't have to agree with anyone to gather facts.

ContextualBargain@reddit

It’s not left or right but rich vs poor, yet its the right’s fox news and heritage foundation that is propping up the rich’s interests over everyone else’s. They need to go.

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Radiant_Sleep_4699@reddit

Rich vs poor !!!

(Escape the cult of greed ! ) Start bartering today !

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Radiant_Sleep_4699@reddit

Nobody needs to “go.”

We need a better public funded system. And/or donated time and equipment to create a whole alternative media branch of us gov to create our own profound programs

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Flux_State@reddit

Nailed it. The people I know who've always supported Republicans aren't the dangerous ones, it's the previously apolitical ones that radicalized online that you have to watch out for. My conservative friend "Abe" would hide me from the secret police if Trump completes his plans for Dictatorship (despite being enthusiastic for it). My friend "Bill" would turn me in himself and probably be ranting about Aunt Jemima and Trans People as the secret police hauled me away.

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EyesOfAzula@reddit

we could bring the temperature down by requiring KYC for social media, and blocking accounts tied to residents of enemy nations from political speech visible to US based accounts.

This drastically cuts down on foreign and domestic bots since each account requires a government ID, and cuts down on enemy nations stoking political violence because their users will be quarantined away from US social media feeds / DMs.

Some will still get through, but it will be a fraction of what we have today. Greatly reducing the propaganda pipeline

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cowgirltrainwreck@reddit

Excuse my ignorance, but what is KYC?

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EyesOfAzula@reddit

basically know your customer, a way to verify who the account holder actually is, kind of like what banks do.

https://www.swift.com/your-needs/financial-crime-cyber-security/know-your-customer-kyc/meaning-kyc

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thumos_et_logos@reddit

No fuckin way

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EyesOfAzula@reddit

There have always been real issues, but people were calmer prior to 2016.

Social media has contributed to radicalization.

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es_crow@reddit

Youre stupid if you think a civil war would look anything like a war between two countries. Warthogs, F16s or nukes would be next to useless against a civil uprising.

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ki4clz@reddit

Know your history…

Sulla crushed Marius’ entire legion within the city walls

Spartacus had 80k slaves running scourged earth over the peninsula and gathering steam until he met the might of the 10th, and the 3rd Galicia

Vercingetorix gathered all of the tribes of Gaul in a rebellion with the largest army ever assembled just to lay his sword at Julius’ feet

NOTHING compares to the might of the US Military today… they stand ready, even as we speak… and the gravy seals with their .22’s against them would be a bloodbath

A rebellion is, nor ever has been, won by small arms alone… without France with their navy and artillery we would be drinking tea to this very day

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es_crow@reddit

I think you got a bit lost on your way back through history...

War is different today, and the world is different too. The conflicts you mentioned were rebellions, but not guerilla warfare like a modern revolt would be.

The word "guerilla" comes from the 1800s when Spanish partisans - mostly peasants and former soldiers - fought against the occupying army of Napoleon, and won. They ambushed, sabotaged, used hit-and-run tactics, and knowledge of their environment to demoralize, isolate and defeat French forces.

How about the IRA? What about Burma/Myanmar? What about Vietnam?

When you say "NOTHING compares to the might of the US Military today", ill suggest the US military of the 2000s was stronger. What happened in Iraq? What happened in Afghanistan?

You keep calling US civilians "gravy seals" with ".22's", but many navy seals have left the military, and many more special forces would leave if ordered to kill their countrymen. They joined for their country, not their government.

oerthrowaway@reddit

Not a red herring, stunningly on point actually. If you actually had military experience, especially in the US military, you would realize that the drivel you are spouting about how easy it would be for the US to fight an insurgency is way off point.

Not even keeping in mind the fact that in an American civil war it’s likely that both sides will have fighter jets, drones, artillery etc.

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ki4clz@reddit

The US Military against the gravy seals and their .22’s…? With no artillery…?

Laughable…

They would be put down like the curs they are my friend… bloody footprints in the snow

We would march right over their corpses

One by one they would be picked off, could there be delays… sure… but once they mobilize it will be an unstoppable juggernaut over familiar terrain

You watch too many movies my friend

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oerthrowaway@reddit

Ah so you’re just a dumb troll. No movies, what’s your experience again?

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ki4clz@reddit

Sooooo meaty… will you continue to move the goalposts when you don’t get an answer you like…?

Will you continue to use your gotcha dialectic to gain say your shaky position…?

Do you expect me to crawl to your demands upon my person…?

Should I cry out to you like a scorned lover…

How many more hoops do you have in store

Nay, my friend I will not be assuaged by your childish behavior nor will I capitulate my premise to satisfy your feelings

You are a narcissistic fool

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hockeymaskbob@reddit

I see you have a degree in military logistics from Battlefield 4

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4587272@reddit

Giving you big ups solely for Bf4 shoutout!
I know your comment was tongue in cheek but I spent so many hours on that game back in the day that I’m supremely confident I could hop in a Little Bird or Apache with no problem.

US Artillery Commander out of Texas: …no artillery, are you joking?

1st Lt.: …nuh, nuh no sir… all they have are small arms and ammunition… .223 NATO sir…

Commander: they do know we can strike them from 20miles away, don’t they?

1st Lt.: I don’t think so sir, and they have no supply the Gravy Seals just loot and rob from the locals sir… do you want to call in an airstrike at 0300 sir…?

Commander: no…no… -sighs deeply- start the bombardment Lt. I want this over with by supper… let me know when they’re erased, I want to be back home tomorrow…

Lt.: yes sir, and what about the bodies sir…

Commander: there won’t be any bodies Lt. run along now, and bring me a drink…

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Machine_gun_go_Brrrr@reddit

Better hope those terrorists aren't your neighbors. 155 HE don't care who is in the vicinity.

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ki4clz@reddit

I know right… lolz…

My .69 Charleville ‘77 has the same problem

ExoticPumpkin237@reddit

It was actually mind blowing seeing the response to the assassination attempt where so many were like "the violence in this country is out of control and this needs to stop... And it's time the Democrats take responsibility for their actions"

Like what. What the actual fuck lol. They complain about being called Nazis but it's like okay, quit saying and doing openly Nazi shit then. That complaint has a really special layer of irony because for the entirety of my life conservatives have screeched about the "Radical Leftist Communist" democrats. like at least one side is making a pretty accurate assessment of reality. There's no fucking alternate universe where Karl Marx becomes the leader of the corporate hack democratic party

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the3v1L0ne@reddit

Blue states and cities will burn from within.

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deadSINce_99@reddit

Cool. Tell Obama to not executive produce a film literally called civil war.

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

It was a film about a photojournalist and actually quite realistic. Source: former journalist. War was merely the setting for the storyline. One would hope people can tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction. When they can't there are bigger problems that who the executive producer of a film is.

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Bro he is literally gonna win lmfao

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pkr8ch@reddit

And if/when he doesn’t, his cult will do as they did last time right?

And the lack of wilderness expertise is true for any American born after air conditioning became wide place in homes which is by the 1960s, so it's not a young person issue.

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East_Fuji_Revisited@reddit

what i wrote is literally what the military has said, please google recruitment issues and read the 100 articles available with office statements. your personal life and environment does not reflect the reality on the ground. please fill free to provide me sources stating that i am wrong.

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

please fill free to provide me sources stating that i am wrong.

The way reddit works is you provide the sources not the people you are attempting to convince. It's even under the rules (#3 )on this sub.

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brownstormbrewin@reddit

In this instance, both are making a claim. So both would really need to provide a source. And most assuredly, the military has problems finding fit candidates to join

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East_Fuji_Revisited@reddit

brother as I stated its a well known issue in recruitment, which of the 100 articles would you like me to link dude? also that person replied to me with a personal anecdote about how in their own life that's not true therefore its true everywhere else, what? im sorry that i brought up a valid reason why civil war will never happen and you got mad.

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

and you got mad

Terrible abusive fucking people.

And it wasn't just me.

TotalRecallsABitch@reddit

Im a UPS driver.

In 2020 I heard some old white Republican white ladies at a hair salon talk amongst themselves..."I hope you got your guns ready, because if Biden wins it might be a civil war".

Legitimate old white ladies. 55+.

ResearcherBetter9552@reddit

I interviewed for Blackrock. Two foreigners who spoke broken English. Enemy within

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ki4clz@reddit

They are the MIC, and whomever is in the white house doesn’t matter, dog whistles like you used above are just distractions… and only go to bolster my argument showing how ignorant people are

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ResearcherBetter9552@reddit

It matters when it’s Trump, clearly. Otherwise they wouldn’t conduct a decade-long smear campaign and spend billions to prop up shitty candidates.

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ki4clz@reddit

Distractions… Distractions all…

Who gives a fuck, he’s an idiot… just like the rest of them… they are all bought and paid for

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ScientistCool7604@reddit

Exactly

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Radiant_Sleep_4699@reddit

There’s a time tested way to bring down the “heat.”

Ice cream
Free food

Seriously, imagine we just have government sponsored pot lucks (no weapons) and enjoy the company of our fellow citizens?

I think voting should be a holiday like Halloween, for adults. No work, only eating and good vibes.

Anyone going to a polling place should get a free meal. Or at least a free desert. Fruit cups for the health conscious.

Free coffee and non-alcoholic drinks at the polling places too.

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angrybrowndyke@reddit

AHAHAHAH in other news water is wet.

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ki4clz@reddit

oh shit, here we go…

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Zoltar-Wizdom@reddit

I’m honestly not concerned about a Civil War because most people don’t have the balls to risk their comfort.

I am, however, I’m partially concerned about domestic terrorists, who try to commit active violence. The die hard crazies…

What I am most concerned about are maga business owners, or people who support trump or conservatives in positions of power who will simply try to make life as difficult as they can for others.

There could be thousands, or even millions of people losing out on jobs, promotions or life-changing opportunities because of a person who finds out they are a Democrat or a left-leaning individual. and now they will be negatively impacted.

I think the next Civil war will be a financial or economic war, combined with a loss of freedoms & tug-of-war with fascism.

I don’t think there’s going to be a grand war of kinetic battles. It’s going to be a long drawn out for attracted economic decline. Homelessness and poverty and people dying in the streets.

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caveatlector73@reddit (OP)

So my dystopian books are coming true? I too have wondered if it will be a socioeconomic divide. I'm joking around, but the book I referenced does talk about how those characters prepped.

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ki4clz@reddit

We are in the dystopia, and it is boring

BlahBlahBlackCheap@reddit

Probably the Russians are the ones talking about it the most

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Realistic-Motorcycle@reddit

My attitude about is like the shop keeper in the movie. Im just going to stay out of it.

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TheGOODSh-tCo@reddit

I definitely see possibilities for violence. Both sides will be in the street if their candidate loses, and that situation can spin out of control.

Even if Harris wins, we don’t know what will happen from there.

Courts will make the decision on this election. So you’ll have both sides out, protesting.

Hopefully the police and military don’t coup. That’s where things get really bad.

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GuyMcFellow@reddit

Curious about this group's thoughts...

Would an American Civil War be Left vs. Right? Or would it look more like the Syrian Civil War with numerous factions all fighting each other?

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Crusheddeer1@reddit

Probably numerous factions depending on states. Blue states will be the most dangerous since they will have the greatest variety of factions.

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dshuby@reddit

It won’t be organized, staves versus states or like our old Civil War with a north and south.

We don’t have blue states….we have major metropolitan densities where the lefties concentrate and rural areas.

When the supply chain collapses, those city folks will go out into the rural areas (with their ‘Gimme dat mindset and approach) and demand Big Govt give and do…and fix…and it will be more of a Gorilla warfare when the streets are piled with cars that can’t move and are out of gas and our society collapses. It’s gonna be a doozy.

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kalitarios@reddit

probably downtrodden groups being conned into an us vs them mentality while the real nefarious entities start profiteering and come out on top, per frickin usual. Ask yourself, "Who stands to profit from another civil war?"

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