There’s a pennzoil euro oil. Bottle says for euro brands and lists a few. Can it be used in other cars like Toyota? It’s just a gimmick right?
Posted by IAmAThug101@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 19 comments
I'm about 99% sure it's just a gimmick and can be used on non euro cars bc the other version of this oil can and there aren't any earnings on the bottle about using it on other cars
AshlandPone@reddit
Euro L and Euro LX have different additives specifically required by the likes of mercedes and audi. Not necessary for Toyotas. It's not a gimmick, just not necessary for cars that don't require that specification.
Away-Salad9521@reddit
Smart cars have 3 cyl Japanese Mitsubishi engines. What is Euro about that?
Lucky_Goal1443@reddit
Avoid Mitsubishi 3cyl. Fords 3cyl 1.5L Dragon GTDI engine far more proven & gets very high ratings. Facts.
AshlandPone@reddit
Gen 1 smart fortwos use 3 different engines. 0.6T and 0.7T Mercedes M160 engines, or the 0.8T Mercedes OM660.
Gen 2 smart fortwos use the Mercedes OM660 0.8T again, or the Mitsubishi 3B21 1.0L and 3B21T 1.0T motors. Of note, in this engine family, these 1L variants are only used in the smart fortwo and nowhere else in the world. Designated Mercedes motor M132 E10 for the non turbo a M132 E10 AL for the turbo. 3B20 and 3B20T are the 659cc variants used in all their kei cars.
Gen 3 smart fortwos and smart forfours return to Mercedes mills. Using the M281 motor in either 0.9T or 1.0L configurations.
Smart roadster was also powered by the M160 0.7T.
Lucky_Goal1443@reddit
Not yodas they get regular full syn.
AlaskaGreenTDI@reddit
Don’t worry about which brands it lists, look at the fine print which shows which oil specs it meets or exceeds.
Lucky_Goal1443@reddit
Specs & viscosity matter most. Any name brand full synthetic will serve ya well for up to 7k mis - max.
PCho222@reddit
Odds are it has some LL-xx certification that German manufacturers like to spec due to US gas having more sulfur. Grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if you're changing the oil regularly. For the most part oil is oil.
microphohn@reddit
Oil is not oil. Not even close.
Lopsided_Web_4520@reddit
This guy is actually partially correct, most motor oil is synthesized from natural gas and oil, meaning motor “oil” isn’t actually crude “oil”. However, I agree with the first comment that generally most US full synthetic motor oils will do a pretty good job protecting an engine. Interval change is most important.
Lucky_Goal1443@reddit
They do great job & beat most boutique oils. Esp Pennzoil Platinum/ Ultra Platinum & Mobil1 EP.
Lucky_Goal1443@reddit
Pennzoils GTL base oil is superior to crude based oils. Proven over & over again! I use Pennzoil Platinum / Ultra Platinum in my 22 Edge AWD 2.0L turbo w/64k mis. Only oils used since factory fill. Get great mpgs - 32mpg hwy - far above average & engine purrs. 💯
bradland@reddit
Motor oil is such a mix of marketing and specification. Honestly, it's a god damned nightmare. In the case of this oil, the "Euro" designation is a marketing wrapper for some important certifications. European brands like BMW, Mercedes, VW/Audi, etc all publish their own oil certifications. If you run an oil that doesn't have the certification, the manufacturer can attempt to deny certain types of warranty claims on that basis.
If you check the specifications for that oil, you'll see this list, which is like a biggest hits list for European manufacturer certifications.
OEM specifications:
Ok_Dependent_3936@reddit
That's not marketing, that quality control. Those euro oils must meet the testing demands of those manufacturers. Look at the testing parameters. Those euro oils are always higher hths, higher viscosity, and generally stronger and better oils than american standards. Especially for turbos. It's not marketing, its quality control.
Search oil and car forums, they'll explain it all. Read the testimonials of others, not just videos.
JCDU@reddit
This is the right answer.
With oils what matters is the specs in the fine print - 1st and foremost the manufacturer specifics as listed above, then ACEA/API specs (often newer/better specs can be used in older/lower-spec applications but not always), and the correct viscosity - thicker or thinner is not better or worse, it needs to be right for your engine's design.
Warmslammer69k@reddit
This is the right stuff.
OP, different oils aren't better or worse. They're different and formulated differently, they've got different additives and behave slightly different. Euro formula isn't better because it's got those additives or because it's more expensive. It's just got the specific additives that European manufacturers intend to be used. Your car will have a 'right' blend of oil additives that are ideal for it, and it won't be the Euro blend. If having the best possible oil in your car is important to you, then do some research and you'll probably be able to track down the recommended additives. At the end of the day, though, just use the right viscosity and change your oil regularly.
microphohn@reddit
It's not a gimmick at all. European car makers have established their own standards for oil quality and lubricant performance.
Oils are commodities for most people and thus, making an oil any better than necessary to meet a spec is a waste of money. The oil blenders make the oil as good as it needs to be and no better.
But toughest oil specs on earth are European. Particularly MB 229.5, but also Porsche A40 and VW 502.00/505.00 and BWM LL-01. These specs are very demanding on piston deposits and oxidation resistance, and require a minimum HTHS of 3.5.
If you're just considering oils you can find on the WalMart shelf, a Euro spec oil that meets the specs above is categorically superior to every other oil that doesn't meet those specs. This is because they are required to be better, and oil blenders make the oil as cheap as they can and still meet the acceptable performance.
Diligent_Can_5631@reddit
It’s not a gimmick. ”European Formula” sold in the US has ACEA specifications which are oil grades that Are used across the european car market. (Similar to API). It will also list oil specifications made by manufacturers from different european countries.
Is it safe to use in Toyota? Well it’ll probably not blow up. Is it ideal? Probably not. Look in your owners and look up the right specifications for your specific vehicle.
Ok_Department2630@reddit
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