Jackery or Eccoflow? | TheaterFire

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svenfrom83@reddit

New here and joined mostly for answers on stuff like this. Is the current sale of 1399 for the EcoFlow Delta Pro 3600 as good as they’d have me believe?

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Nobellamuchcry@reddit (OP)

I ended up going with 2 Eccoflow Delta Max 2’s that can be connected together. Along with 3 200W portable solar panels. Added a river 3 for small stuff.

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newarkdanny@reddit

EcoFlow, Bluetti and jackery in that order (honorable mention anker)

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Jimmy_the_Heater@reddit

Have 3 Bluetti's between my SO and I and am very impressed with them.

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Jimmy_the_Heater@reddit

Two AC180's and an EB3A. Covers most situations.

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_NedPepper_@reddit

Love my Jackery and their customer service is top notch

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newarkdanny@reddit

I like my jackery, keep in mind it's only the 240, and my entry into power stations, but price per wh and innovation, for now there not touching ecoflow.

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I bought the 1000 and later decided I wanted to add on panels but they were much cheaper if you bought them all as a bundle. I emailed customer support and they sold me the panels at the bundle discount without any issues, just reversed the difference back on my card. Good people and easy to connect with.

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cappyvee@reddit

They are really good like that - I contacted them because I was on their website looking for a charging cable I had lost and they just sent me one for free.

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spezisbastardman@reddit

I’d put building your own with an EG4 and a server rack of batteries above all consumer options, but otherwise agreed. Throw in Pecron from a value perspective, too.

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Academic_1989@reddit

More details? Any how to references would be appreciated. Really don't want to pay retail - I'm an electrical engineer, but have never worked with power storage and generation hands on, so appreciate any tips.

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gadget767@reddit

r/SolarDIY

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Radtoo@reddit

It's just a battery to attach to a typical Solar MPPT. Generally the solar panels and charging control all connect (on bigger setups with some arrays at risk via a lightning rated fuse) to the MPPT which controls these. Get a victron or epever or whatever suitable for the voltage and ampage, use thick enough cables to connect it all, set up how you want to charge the batteries in the MPPT unit.

Then you typically do fuse->DC consumers and/or fuse->inverter for AC. Both of these MAY be provided as all in one thing in the MPPT unit (especially for compliant ongrid AC it's almost always all in one unit). Or you just connect the fuses / other security like RCCD and inverters for the loads you have in mind at the battery separately.

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spezisbastardman@reddit

I’m a hobbyist more than anything, so I wouldn’t say I’m super qualified to answer a whole lot. Check out Will Prowse’s videos on YouTube. The “DIY EcoFlow Delta Pro” video he has along with all his other EG4 videos should give you a solid jumping off point, though.

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reincarnateme@reddit

Honda?

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newarkdanny@reddit

Bulletproof? Honda & Champion. On a budget and bulletproof? Predator (harbor freight)

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notquitepro15@reddit

I was at a festival the other day and walked by one of the larger predator inverter generators. I was pretty impressed at how quiet it was. It’s on my list, now.

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SnooLobsters1308@reddit

I usually recommend a dual fuel, one that can use propane or gas. Propane tanks last longer than gas (decade+) and post disaster with the power out, you can often get propane tanks from local shops open and taking cash when the gas stations have no power to pump. Honda is a great generator, but, without an adapter system, is gas only. There's a few brands out there that have dual fuel, home depot, lowes sell some. I have a small champion brand dual fuel.

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xposeitall@reddit

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ObelixSmiterOfRomans@reddit

Just recieved a Ecoflow River 2 for Christmas and decided to do a side by side comparason with my Jackery 240. Powering my Cpap for 8 hours left my Jackery with 60% remaining and the Ecoflow with only 30% remaining. The Ecoflow is advertised at 256wh and the Jackery at 240. So what's the deal? Did I get a factory dud?

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cityprepping@reddit

I've tested about every unit on the market and tried to compare them all here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4XJM1nIjZ8

Short answer: EcoFlow (at this time) is the best I've tested. Jackery is definitely coming along and have the biggest market share, but they've still got some catching up to do.

I think what differentiates EcoFlow from the pack is their ecosystem (smart generators and panels) and advanced app features. They can just do stuff that the others (currently) can not do.

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finnegankp87@reddit

Curious whether you've had the opportunity to test Jackery's newest model the Explorer 5000 Plus against the EcoFlow Plus Ultra and how they compare?

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cityprepping@reddit

I have reviewed them both. Check my video library.

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thebeginingisnear@reddit

thanks for sharing. just diving down this rabbit hole and trying to compare them, going to check this out on my ride home

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cappyvee@reddit

Love your videos!

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No_Hornet_9901@reddit

I watched your vids very closely before going with EcoFlow. The modular expandability is also a plus.

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muxxy3102@reddit

Good video breakdowns! Made my choice for the ecoflow from them.

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IronClown133@reddit

Ecoflow or Bluetti, no other brand. At the very least you want LiFePO4 batteries. I'm pretty sure Jackery still doesn't use them.

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Hoyle33@reddit

Jackery does use LiFePO4, quick Google search will show you

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nick4leader@reddit

You do have to check though. I believe the ones under 1000 are still lithium ion

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Hoyle33@reddit

The explorer 240 v2 has a LiFePO4

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nick4leader@reddit

It had been a while since I had looked, seems like they are converting most over to LiFePO4

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IronClown133@reddit

Yea I just looked at their 3000 on their website and it says lithium ion.

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IronClown133@reddit

https://www.jackery.com/blogs/knowledge/what-is-a-lithium-ion-battery?srsltid=AfmBOopOk2150HsJt1C2GUg6eZ4SLZSPl3Y7roBF1fBliNBjp2ohGQJF

Lithium Ion, not LiFePO4. I'm not sure about their newer units, but I know for certain a fews years ago they weren't using LiFePO4.

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mkosmo@reddit

LiFePO4 is a type of lithium ion battery. You can call a LiFePO4 a lithium ion battery and be entirely correct. Not all lithium ion batteries are LiFePO4, however. It's just one LiPo chemistry.

Jackery uses LiFePO4 chemistry batteries.

Hey, look, they have an article on them, too: https://www.jackery.com/blogs/knowledge/what-is-a-lifepo4-battery

LiFePO4 battery is a subtype of lithium-ion batteries that have gradually become everyone's choice due to their long lifespan, safe nature, and high efficiency. You can find these rechargeable batteries in backup power systems, electric vehicles, off-grid solar generators, and many portable devices.

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wildboarripsitup@reddit

Anyone but Anker. Seriously one of the worst companies I've had to have dealings with

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Faptainjack2@reddit

What happened? I never had an issue with their products.

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wildboarripsitup@reddit

They sent a faulty generator - faulty as in subassemblies did not match up to the outer housing which meant the USB-A and USB-C ports were inoperable - no idea how it passed QC as it was obviously unusable. Sent it back by courier on the same day it was delivered to me, several weeks ago. The courier is reporting it as delivered, Anker are denying this, and Anker won't send a replacement as their internal process is reporting it as not returned. Basically I'm probably going to have to start a charge-back process with my credit card company, which is a shame because on paper the generator is exactly what I was after, and I would have been happy with a straight replacement. Overall, appalling customer service on top of a faulty generator, the support ticket being passed around and around and my having to repeatedly give the same information to a new person every time. AND I'm still stuck without the generator weeks later!

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Forkboy2@reddit

Also might consider a Renogy solar kit with some LiTime LiFePO4 batteries and an inverter. Should be quite a bit cheaper and more flexibility than a packaged system.

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Faptainjack2@reddit

I thought so too. But after buying the solar controller, the inverter, the cables, and battery; it was more than a power station with similar watt hours.

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Forkboy2@reddit

That doesn't seem right. Example below the kit is about 1/2 the price of Ecoflow system of same size.

400W Ecoflow with 300 Ah of battery - $3,000

Amazon.com : EF ECOFLOW Solar Generator 120V/3.6KWh DELTA Pro with 400W Portable Solar Panel, 23% High Efficiency, 5 AC Outlets, 3600W Portable Power Station for Home Backup Outdoors Camping RV Emergency : Patio, Lawn & Garden

400 watt Renology kit - $580 (includes cables, solar charger)

https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Solar-Premium-Monocrystalline-Controller/dp/B07CTKT56Y/

3 x 100 Ah batteries - $675

Amazon.com: LiTime 12V 100Ah Mini LiFePO4 Lithium Battery, Upgraded 100A BMS, 10-Year Lifespan with Up to 15000 Cycles, Max. 1280Wh Energy LiFePO4 Battery in Small Size, Perfect for RV, Solar, Trolling Motor : Automotive

300 watt inverter - $369

Amazon.com: Renogy 3000W Pure Sine Wave Inverter 12V DC to 120V AC Converter for Home, RV, Truck, Off-Grid Solar Power Inverter with Built-in 5V/2.1A USB, AC Hardwire Port, Remote Controller : Automotive

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Faptainjack2@reddit

I stand corrected.

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AutomaticTreat@reddit

What about Anker?

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8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit

I recently picked up a Solix C800 and have been impressed so far. I also have an EcoFlow, and to me the quality and features are very similar between them. I really like both brands.

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AutomaticTreat@reddit

Anything stick out as positive/negative with either?

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8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit

Honestly not really. They both have nice apps that can be used to configure things like AC charging speed or turn the light off and on and monitor battery health and temp, but you don't need the apps at all. To be fair, the Anker is the larger unit of the two, so an apples to apples is hard, but in terms of features and quality, they are very comparable.

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LifeIsOptional@reddit

Ecoflow, Bluetti, Anker, or build your own. Jackery has too much proprietary connectors and a bit less feature rich.

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TheSensiblePrepper@reddit

Did you search the Sub first before posting this?

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Nobellamuchcry@reddit (OP)

To lazy. Hope this post didn’t take up too much much of your time. If was super repetitive you could have kept scrolling and not commented.

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TheSensiblePrepper@reddit

It took me 15 seconds. Just be glad a Mod wasn't on at the time of the post.

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webbhare1@reddit

Man stfu. I’m glad OP posted this. I was scrolling my home feed and this came up and I clicked it because I find this interesting and I’m curious. You think I’m going to do a search on this sub for this? Nah. People like you just fucking suck. Acting all superior, like you’re the police or some shit like that. You’re a fool take a seat

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TheSensiblePrepper@reddit

It is literally the second rule of the Sub.

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webbhare1@reddit

Not all rules make sense. That rule sucks and you suck. Idgaf my guy

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preppers-ModTeam@reddit

Reddit has multiple prepping-related subs. Some require more effort, and attract more visitors. Some are more relaxed.

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DisastrousHyena3534@reddit

Nothing wrong with Jackery but Ecoflow is more for your money

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AdIntelligent8620@reddit

Well, golly, reading these comments has me feeling pretty good about ordering an EcoFlow DELTA Pro last weekend. 🙂

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Nobellamuchcry@reddit (OP)

I haven’t pulled the trigger, but that looks like the play.

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RedditAccountTakeTwo@reddit

I watched countless YouTube videos and read countless reviews about this market over the last two weeks and Ecoflow comes out on top basically every time.

The only thing I’m not getting through Ecoflow is the panels and that’s because you can get a lot more for your money if you don’t go for foldable ones.

I wish I would have bought on the last Amazon Prime sale, but I’m going to get the Delta Pro Ultra on Black Friday.

I’m just some dude though, so what do I know.

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Lumpy-Paramedic1086@reddit

I came to the same conclusion. Can you share which panels you found to be compatible and an overall favorite?

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TinyDogsRule@reddit

I like Renogy. Plug and play with Ecoflow. I've seen them as low as $75 for a 100w panel.

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RedditAccountTakeTwo@reddit

I’m still learning more and more about those and will probably make a post soon in a few places to narrow it down.

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Wayson@reddit

My Delta 2 from the sale came yesterday and it is still in its box. You will need an XT60 plug adapter if you want to use rigid panels so be sure that you have one. I bought one that is MC4 to XT60 and I can connect panels in 2S2P to get 400W input below the 60V max.

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Sinistar7510@reddit

EcoFlow
Thoughts arise like butterflies

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8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit

Haha, nice

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SnooLobsters1308@reddit

I have ecoflow delta pros.

Ecoflow, jakery, anker, bluetti are all decent with current generation. Ecoflow has a much wider variety from small to big to whole home, so there's more options and thus more people buy ecoflow. For a bit, ecoflow was the one that had the "biggest" batteries, and so were more chosen for whole home and for large RV setups.

Just recently, ecoflow came out with their newest line, delta 3+, delta 3 pro, delta ultra pro. These are currently pushing the large delta pro and smaller delta 2 to much lower price ranges.

so right now, ecoflow has greater market share, and currently great pricing. Now, 6 months from now, maybe Anker comes out with their new stuff and anker solix gets a lot cheaper, but, right now, I think EF is a better deal.

NOTE. All of these run regular sales with steep discounts. If you can wait, EF usually offers even bigger black friday deals.

GL!

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b18bturbo@reddit

I’ve been using a Ecoflow delta 2 with extra battery and delta pro with extra battery and love both. Wait for Black Friday for deals, but the delta 2 is a great entry level product that goes on sale all the time. Would save your money on buying their panels even though the fold out ones are great for just being a potable folders out u it depending on your needs they are expensive. The lifespan of the batteries is what sold me. I’d say find what fits your budget and how many kwh’s your looking for to power up appliances so you know what you need

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Nobellamuchcry@reddit (OP)

Thank you. It looks like ecoflow is the preferred product. I saw on this thread some bickering about the batteries. Is Lithium not the standard anymore?

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bocker58@reddit

Make sure you look carefully at the battery chemistry.

Lithium could mean Lithium-Ion, Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo4) or other flavours.

Lithium Iron Phosphate is superior.

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mkosmo@reddit

Superior in regards to safety, sure, but there are plenty of chemistries that are more energy dense. Chemistry selection depends on use case... there isn't one to rule them all.

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bocker58@reddit

You’re right, but do Jackery and EcoFlow offer any other kinds?

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mkosmo@reddit

No, they don’t, but there are plenty of manufacturers of power banks than the big 3 who advertise on Amazon and with YouTubers.

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TheAncientMadness@reddit

ecoflow, bluetti, anker solix.

a lifepo4 unit from any of these brands is good to go.

r/preppersales tracks deals on them well

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