Lexus LFR been spotted on public roads
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https://www.carscoops.com/2024/10/lexus-lfr-supercar-makes-its-spy-debut-in-road-going-form/
Twin Turbo V8 Hybrid!
Lucky_Chainsaw@reddit
It frightens me to think about what the world & Toyota would've been without Morizo...
scriminal@reddit
New proper Supra?
Paoayo@reddit
No, I'm afraid. It's something else entirely.
DocPhilMcGraw@reddit
It’s giving some really good Viper-like vibes which I am honestly loving.
Thunder_Wasp@reddit
Lexus has made some of my favorite sportscars including the IS-F, GS-F, and LFA, so I'm looking forward to this one. Hopefully Yamaha gets to help tune the intake this time too.
Electronic_Parfait36@reddit
Exhaust not intake.
Thunder_Wasp@reddit
I had to look it up but it appears Yamaha worked on both the intake and exhaust. Link
Electronic_Parfait36@reddit
That's now that I think about it isn't surprising. Intake noise can blur out exhuast note. So if you are working that hard on the exhaust note, why not have sound engineers help make the intake compliment it.
behindblue@reddit
Viper mixed with an S2000.
Car-face@reddit
Was just about to say the same thing.
That would make it the Toyota Dokuhebi.
AllGravyNoBiscuits@reddit
I want one of those internet detectives to figure out the dimensions from this picture. I have a feeling it’s smaller than perceived
Cosinity@reddit
Alright I guess I'll do it so I can procrastinate doing anything more productive
From this picture we can see the top of the trunk is somewhere below the hood of the RAV4 behind it. Hard to say exactly, but let's say it's about at the level of the line the badge is on. A quick measure of the RAV4 says that line is ~35 inches from the ground.
That lets us get use this sideview to get these dimensions, which makes it about the same height and a bit longer than a Miata
Ran4@reddit
170 inches doesn't say anything to most people, but that's 431.8 cm. Which would be tiny. There's no way it's that small.
DaOne_44@reddit
A slightly longer wider Miata holy shit it’s an FD RX-7
RIG_PIG69@reddit
Came here to say it looks like an FD rx7
BehindTheBurner32@reddit
close enough, let's put a 4-rotor in it
stupidusername@reddit
I've been dick-teased by Mazda so many times on RX7 successors i'd settle for them making 20B thick plates again.
superdude4agze@reddit
In the camo and the shape it looks a bit like a Veilside RX7 in a camo wrap.
thelastlugnut@reddit
One of the most beautiful and well-proportioned cars of the 90s. Take my fookin money.
hadesrdx@reddit
holy shit miat but longer please be 100k
the_lamou@reddit
If it's a penny less than $200k, I would be shocked. Personally, I expect closer to $350-450k, on par with the LFA.
np20412@reddit
I wish. I expect this thing to MSRP at 150+ and due to demand and the market likely to see this as an "LFA successor" I would expect units to be spoken for fast and any available to sell for a hefty markup.
If it debuts anywhere around 150k and is available I will give up my LC for it and deal with the consequences of such a decision in due course LOL
The_Bucket_Of_Truth@reddit
Imagine if they made it with a manual. Otherwise isn't it kinda just a previous gen AMG GT in a lot of ways?
Intel_Oil@reddit
I'd POUNCE on a Lexus Sportscar (not GT) 2 seater with a V8 for 150k. And i know two other guys that i'll personally fistfight to order first.
peanutbuttahcups@reddit
The LC500, Lexus' v8 coupe/convertible GT car, is already $100k. So unfortunately, this thing will most likely be north of that.
ethereumkid@reddit
No way this is 100K. North of 150K for sure lol.
mini4x@reddit
My money says msrp around $180k, and you won't own one for under $250k.
Vtakkin@reddit
Another way is if you can see the tire size markings clearly in any pictures to use that to figure out diameter of the tires and go from there.
JEs4@reddit
I think it's a little bigger. If you use the wheel diameter as a reference point as opposed to the Rav4, plugging in a value of 20" gets you a roughly 105" wheelbase with 179" long which is a little more appropriate for a GT3 road car.
Cosinity@reddit
Very possible, this was a quick and dirty estimate, using the wheels was a good idea
thelastlugnut@reddit
The camo screwed up the text. 48 meters tall?!?
Viend@reddit
48 freedom fingers tall
thelastlugnut@reddit
Ketchup with those, please.
AllGravyNoBiscuits@reddit
Right on, it’s a 911 in length and Miata in height. How about width 👀?
Cosinity@reddit
Oh yeah, knew I was forgetting something. About 80 or 81 inches wide, so a good deal wider than the Miata (68in)
Dyep1@reddit
Its like gtr size
Guac_in_my_rarri@reddit
Huge hood cera always look way bigger than they actually are.
AllLibsAreBoomers@reddit
H O N E S T L Y
loveCars@reddit
Doesn't have the classy coupe look of the LFA, but has similar proportions to a viper, SLS, or AMG GT for sure.
I'll hold judgement til it's out there. I don't love the styling for now... but what the hell, it's a V8 halo car in 2024. What's not to like about that?
NumberOneBacon@reddit
I’m seeing more early AMG GT with the hood line and how the cockpit is so far back
goodcase@reddit
I get FD RX-7 vibes.
klowny@reddit
Makes sense if the rumors of it chassis-sharing with the Mazda6 are true.
WitnessA@reddit
Same, specifically with the veilside body kit.
dreaminphp@reddit
For real. I want one
Mauser-Nut91@reddit
I just wish it had slightly taller hips a la LFA/LC
Avalon_Don@reddit
SOLD!!!! Oh right, I’m poor…
D4rkr4in@reddit
just trade the X for an L
DoktorStrangelove@reddit
I think I speak for a lot of satisfied owners of Jaguars when I say it's becoming a harder decision by the day whether to part with them since we might be getting to the end of the road with the brand as a whole. Especially if you have anything rare.
peanutbuttahcups@reddit
Totally forgot Jaguar's sport wagons. Definitely keep that thing.
DoktorStrangelove@reddit
They're relatively common in Eurooe and the UK but I think they only brought like 200 to the US. I bought mine to be a ski commute weapon and it has served me well, but started thinking about selling in the last year since it went out of warranty. Thankfully the complete lack of halfway fungible replacement options stopped me, and now I'm halfway committed to keeping it and paying for fixes and maintenance out of pocket for a bit.
Electronic_Parfait36@reddit
Imagine considering getting rid of a vehicle you like because the warranty expired.....
DoktorStrangelove@reddit
I was over-simplifying the decision because I didn't want to write multiple paragraphs on it, but it was a few things. 1) Yeah, warranty...it's a Jaguar, bud...it had several valve failures and other small issues under warranty, and if those continue popping up it's gonna be $1500+ every time it has to go in, not to mention just pads and rotors are nearly $3k on this thing, 2) I am in the middle of moving out of the city to a much smaller mountain town and the nearest Jag dealership will be like 7hrs away, and there's only one indy mechanic in that town who says he'd be able to work on it, so I was a bit worried about those logistics, and 3) when I was seriously considering selling it, I could have made like a $5k profit over my original purchase cost after 3 years of ownership, so that was attractive.
So I was trying to get into a brand that would be easier and cheaper to service in a smaller town, and with better perceived reliability, but I wasn't able to find an option that was exciting. Plus the problem with a car like that appreciating is that everything else was also going up, so if I bought a late model Honda Passport or something else that was boring and reliable, it was going to cost me money over top. The delta I was looking at for the cars I wanted was gonna end up being $5-8k out the door.
In the end I decided to hold it, and that $5-8k delta is sorta my budget for keeping it on the road for the next couple years. I've also got a conversion van that I'm trying to sell to get into something newer and more boring that can be our longer range zero-headache vehicle so that I can continue to baby the Jag and keep the miles down on it, hopefully making it so I can hold it a lot longer to see if it becomes a cult classic over the next few years.
I like to try lots of different stuff but I don't have a massive garage or an unlimited car budget, so I rarely keep a vehicle more than 2-3 years. I'm not accustomed to these kinds of long holds, so I'm just sort of using this as an experiment to dip my toe in that side of the enthusiast world.
Electronic_Parfait36@reddit
Too long didn't read. Get a real car.
DoktorStrangelove@reddit
lolwut
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Avalon_Don@reddit
Agreed I’m glad my girl talked me out of selling mine last year.
DoktorStrangelove@reddit
Same, I was gonna dump ours for a fucking Pilot lol
F1_Geek@reddit
😂😂
D4rkr4in@reddit
Is that you Ash?
R_V_Z@reddit
If you cut the X in half you get two <, which is just an italicized L!
AwesomeBantha@reddit
Does anyone know if Yamaha is involved?
Conscious-Food1622@reddit
If the engine’s anything to go by, I doubt they developed a clean-sheet design and instead just threw two turbos at the existing 2UR-GSE. Who knows, this could be part of the new crop of Dynamic Force engines.
F1_Geek@reddit
They did a clean sheet design.
Not really.
massive_succ@reddit
Woah! After the LC500F was cancelled I feared that they might not progress with V8 designs. I wonder what other models they'd use it in...
F1_Geek@reddit
Yeah... that's the thing... look at my second response to the guy above me. As far as I've known and have been told by people in the know, this is a one and done.
This is the last hurrah.
astrograph@reddit
Need Hanz Zimmer and Yamaha.
My god!!!
vrkas@reddit
Yamaha hasn't been getting into Toyota engines as much in recent times. The most performance-oriented engines in recent times, the G16E and V35A, have been in house.
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
I believe Yamaha did work on the hydrogen combustion version of the 2UR-GSE that was announced not too long ago. But yeah, G16E is probably the first performance engine that Toyota has ever put out that Yamaha hasn't had any input in.
vrkas@reddit
Yup, Yamaha had a hand in head design of some of the classic Toyota race engines, even if in a second hand fashion. I'm thinking the 4T-GTE from the Group B Celica (Yamaha worked on the 2T and 3T), and the 7M-GTE (Yamaha did the DOHC head for the OG 3M). There are non-production race engines which are pure Toyota, but for road cars they have worked with Yamaha a lot.
Noobasdfjkl@reddit
There are like 4 performance engines in Toyotas history that Yamaha didn’t have a hand in.
Dopplegangr1@reddit
It's turbo so not much point trying to make it sound good
Intel_Oil@reddit
(previous Gen) AMG GT would like to have a word with you outside.
whyarentwethereyet@reddit
Ehhh the Utopia is an example of a great sounding engine that has turbos.
amrindersr16@reddit
Can't wait for people to comment on how ugly it is
tharussianphil@reddit
Looks sick, I hope it sounds good considering turbos usually ruin v8s.
YourMajesty90@reddit
I disagree. Ever heard an AMG GT R scream?
tharussianphil@reddit
Those engines are so low pitched I wouldn't describe them as a scream, maybe a growl. Or just a shart lol.
jai302@reddit
Former Viper owner begrudgingly considering a CPO AMG GT-R (SLS is too old) cause I miss the long hood and want something that's a bit easier to drive around. This has answered all my questions. Thank you Lexus.
Kilo_Oscar_@reddit
Should have been an NA V10 that sounds like an F1 car.
EmergencyRace7158@reddit
Im excited to see and hear the final product. It would be even better if the rumored v8 turbo finds its way to the ls. A japanese super sedan would be amazing.
aprtur@reddit
Morizo Century for the boss? After all, he already has a specially made GR version.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
The car comes with fixed side mirrors, I doubt final production car would be like that. Anyway, the car is highly sure near finished, we would supposed to see it next 2 years, as new GT3 car is launched in 2026.
aprtur@reddit
Probably just for testing on the mirrors, but it's possible they could pull a Pagani and do racing mirrors on it.... that'd certainly be cool.
4Runnnn@reddit
Add to the list of things I’ll never be able to afford 🤣
aprtur@reddit
Here's hoping they make it in enough volume like Merc did the AMG GT (the good one, not the new one), so we can at least Google them on the street.
Tough_Steak@reddit
It has the form of an RX-7 which I really like
migorengbaby@reddit
I see some SC300/soarer in there
Charming-Date9013@reddit
Karma points
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Invisible_Villain@reddit
It’s giving rx7 body vibes 👀
CARB0Nrr@reddit
Yeah the greenhouse, the c pillar especially, looks a lot like the RX7
DaOne_44@reddit
Don’t give me hope, don’t make me think Mazda will actually make the RX whatever
CARB0Nrr@reddit
Mazda has already filed multiple patents relating to it, and the bodies between the 3 cars look way too similar for it to not make sense. I'm speculating here, but I think we're getting 3 sister cars each with a different powertrain.
klowny@reddit
Hell with how many patents and trademarks everyone filed, we're probably getting 5:
pluto7443@reddit
The I6 Mazda sedan seems dead
FordTaurusFPIS@reddit
That's it
Unzips pants
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
I think that is incredibly optimistic...
Maybe I can see a Toyota and a Lexus on the same chassis just with different engine differences, cause that's how most of their models work but Mazda doing 3 new vehicles like that?
klowny@reddit
It's supposed to be a Mazda chassis that's already underpinning 4 vehicles. So I can see them making more different sized sausages out of that platform to spread the cost around.
DaOne_44@reddit
If they do I’m going to hunt you down and harvest your organs to buy one
colinshark@reddit
Floating caliper brakes?
BOOOOOO
GTR_35@reddit
This thing is going to sell like hot cakes (to anyone who can afford them of course lol)
HeyyyyListennnnnn@reddit
Lol, this is sell like every Lexus performance model sells. It will get decent reviews with caveats, no one will buy them, then it will get cancelled and 10 years later people will complain that Lexus doesn't cater to enthusiasts.
MrJelly51@reddit
Whoa, this looks like it’s gonna be a homologation special built for GT3 regulations, especially looking at the competition-focused engineering (see the side skirts, cut-out racing windows, and overall low/wide bodywork and heavy ducting) right from the get-go.
You don’t usually see companies putting out moderate-volume, race-ready, and otherwise extreme cars as the first spec of their new model, then building the GT3 version as a complete afterthought and releasing them at the same time.
Building a bespoke competition-focused production car (without a subdued base model) specifically to homologate it for racing (and make only minor tweaks to the race version) was historically the ideal move (GT1, Group A), and was even practiced by Ford in 2016 with the new GT. I think this one will fit neatly into that category and go down in history.
I can’t wait to see it in action, I think both the road and race variants will be incredible!
sidekickman@reddit
Is this gonna be a $250k supercar or a $500k supercar?
AnnoyingRingtone@reddit
Woah mama. I almost don’t want to see what it looks like uncovered because I already love it with the camo.
brake_fade1@reddit
looks like a mix between a SLR and LFA
ikilledtupac@reddit
V8 Twin Turbo
0-60 in 4.5 seconds lol
np20412@reddit
I think if they electrify it like the reports say and it pushes over 700 combined up you will see sub 3s 0-60. If they don't electrify it probably closer to 3.5s cuz you know Lexus isn't building something with a reasonable weight here
RoyShavRick@reddit
It just better not be absurdly more expensive than the Ferrari's and Lambo's that are similar performing. I understand if it's pricier but it shouldn't be by much.
r34p3rex@reddit
So is it going to closer to LFA (MSRP) or LC500 money? I've always wanted a twin turbo LC500
R_V_Z@reddit
Somewhere in between, probably. I'm guessing $200k.
Thee_Sinner@reddit
The rear has a sort of Veilside RX-7 vibe to it
YJeezy@reddit
That video of the LFR blasting by the GTD down the straight is wild! Wonder if the GTD was giving it any beans...
SF90Reeve@reddit
The mustang clearly lifted .
They're both GT3 spec cars there is no massive straight line speed differential between them .
gor134@reddit
Do you have a link to that?
Mako3232@reddit
I assume they're referring to this https://youtu.be/PXuEL_oj7TA?si=b_r0liOFf38UXu6X&t=216
DrKoooolAid@reddit
Sauce please
themariokarters@reddit
Shout out to Lexus for randomly making 1 sick car every decade
Ecsta@reddit
Hope the exhaust sounds as heavenly as the LFA.
mini4x@reddit
n/a v10 - vs TT V8 - it will not sound as good.
joeph0to@reddit
Cannot wait to see these on the road
mini4x@reddit
You'll see these about as often as an LFA.
qwerty9765767689@reddit
I fucking love that they are making these kinds of cars
PalmTreeIsBestTree@reddit
Japanese dodge viper is something I wasn’t expecting
hehechibby@reddit
LFG! LFR!
markelmores@reddit
FR/LG!
vrkas@reddit
Did they just slap turbos on the de-stroked 2UR they have been using in their current GT3 car?
F1_Geek@reddit
Not a 2UR from what I've heard.
vrkas@reddit
New engine, who dis?
F1_Geek@reddit
4.0L twin-turbo V8 hybrid.
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
the 1UZ has returned!??!?!?! ^^/s
Conscious-Food1622@reddit
I wonder which came first, the GT3 project or the road car?
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
That's an easy one - the GT3 car came about, and then they designed the road car to comply with homologation rules.
F1_Geek@reddit
GT3.
thats__hot@reddit
You don’t understand how hyped I am for this.
sonrisa_medusa@reddit
Beautiful proportions with the long hood. Like the previous generation AMG GT. I'm very excited to see what Lexus comes up with.
FlorydaMan@reddit
I'm just so glad it isn't another mid-engine generic million-dollar hypercar.
iPhoneXpensive@reddit
i cannot wait to buy one (in forza)
bionicqueefharmonica@reddit
I love how low the rear end is. Not everything has to be a wedge shape with a giant badonka-donk. Well done Lexus
z4ckm0rris@reddit
Let's see it without the camo off and what kind of price tag it commands.
toilet_ipad_00022@reddit
Build it in Nori Green! Not because I can buy it, I just want to look at it. :)
Train_Dev2008@reddit
Another small displacement twin turbo v8 hybrid supercar? Wow so crazy. Not like a ton of them were revealed recently.
CrazyMike366@reddit
Curious to see where the price lands on one of these. With real GTD/E DNA baked into the clean sheet design, I'm assuming a 911 GT3-ish price point around $175k, but if this is an LFA successor it may be double that.
DethZire@reddit
Looking For Raid?
mmmmmyee@reddit
Supercar performance with 00’s civic mpg’s would certainly be something.
Wassy4444@reddit
Hopefully this causes LFA prices to drop about $900,000
lesubreddit@reddit
No screaming V10 T_T
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
Engine downsize is being a trend, this isn't only Toyota doing.
Maleficent_Lab_8291@reddit
A properly done V8 can sound and feel on par with V10s and V12s
lesubreddit@reddit
It's true but my neanderthal brain says more cylinders = much cooler
Maleficent_Lab_8291@reddit
Well it’s true to a degree, but there are many nuances like performance, character/noise, durability/reliability, etc.
lesubreddit@reddit
I.e. flat plane crank?
doctorcapslock@reddit
crossplane with 8 into 1 collector is where it's at
DM725@reddit
Hopefully it has an aggressively tuned transmission in lieu of the typically lazy Lexus transmissions (compared to their competition).
iBuqX@reddit
I'm hoping for a DCT but I doubt it will happen
arup02@reddit
This is radically different from anything they have going on now. Crazy.
SlashRModFail@reddit
God damn looks like a viper and an rx7 had a baby
clingbat@reddit
Wonder if they'll make enough of them that I can afford one 10-15 years from now lol.
andycpp@reddit
Here’s to hoping they drop this V8 into every model that can fit à la Mercedes-AMG and the M177 (GX F, anyone?)
KingMario05@reddit
Better yet: Camry Gazoo Racing. I wanna buy that NASCAR, damn it!
xkmackx@reddit
This looks promising.
KingMario05@reddit
Oooh, I love the look of it! Nothing will ever too the bonkers LFA, but I'm not about to say no to a brand new Japanese V8-powered monster. Hope Yoder can put this hybrid V8 back in their trucks, too.
Conspicuous_Ruse@reddit
It's got that spooky TVR speed12 look to it.
Love it.
ZaheerAlGhul@reddit
Is this the car that's supposed to share a platform with Mazda?
PabloIceCreamBar@reddit
I realize it’s functional but I hate spoilers like that from a visual perspective. Seen too many Pep Boys bolt ons that resemble it to have it appear to be anything but cheap.
ItsJustAwso@reddit
If I can’t get a rx-vision guess I’ll just have to settle for this one 😂
F1_Geek@reddit
DEAR GOD THIS IS STUNNING. 😍🤩
I can't wait for the next \~12 months.
BlakesonHouser@reddit
Anyone able to post article here? Website ain’t Adblock friendly
Funny_Frame1140@reddit
God this is such a beautiful car
Hntr@reddit
Holy shit. Insanely hyped.
zxch2412@reddit
Please be yamaha tuned
PyramidSchemePA@reddit
Yamaha tuned, I hope? :)
fiero-fire@reddit
I love the body line. Lexus has pretty fat and tall. Low slung and svelte looking. I'm here for it
theknyte@reddit
Looking at the length of the nose on that thing, I'm guessing they're going for a "Front-Mid" setup.
I'm good with that.
PitViper17@reddit
Incredibly excited for this, will be good to see the next big coupe from Lexus!
LostWinds@reddit
incoming comments about it not being affordable