I NEED A GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Firedog_09@reddit

The Gun is to protect me, The load and the truck can be replaced by the company but my family can't replace me. Keep packing drivers if it means peace of mind when you're resting at night or taking your 34. Just be safe and smart about it because it will get you in trouble.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

a gun won't protect you in a confined space like a truck cab... smart parking is a better solution. also people don't realize the even brandishing a firearm (let alone a discharge of a firearm) is months to years of legal issues even if your innocent.

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

a gun won’t protect you in a confined space like a truck cab...

I’ll be honest, I really didn’t read my Glock’s owners manual, I just kinda skimmed it. Maybe that’s why I missed the part where it listed minimum space requirements for usage?

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WitchDaggery@reddit

Bellow certain distances, against a knife wielder you're better off with a proper meelee weapon instead of a pistol, unless you land a lucky shot and the guy drops dead instantly. Otherwise you're gonna get tagged and the robber will bleed out after killing you. Nothing too bad can come from leaving a rebar piece next to your gun lol

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Lmfao!! You watch too many movies, bro.

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stanky-c@reddit

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about

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gunsndonuts@reddit

A pistol will 100% protect you in a confined space that's kinda one of the things they are best at.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

I would rather die then deal with the legal issues after discharging a firearm..

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RocksofReality@reddit

I totally feel the same. I would rather you die than have to deal with the legal issues.

For everyone else I hope they live. It’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

just give the thieves the truck and the load, there isn't a reason to die for the truckload of goods

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RocksofReality@reddit

Your premise is wrong. You and I and most people would never rob anyone, it’s not worth it . The people who would are not clear rational thinkers, what if after you give them the load they decide they don’t want any witnesses. What if they are more interested in perpetuating crimes against the driver than they are in the load?

You are approaching it as you know the intention of people. There are robberies, rapes and murders, there are also crimes that make those look like nice crimes.

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gunslinger481@reddit

I would never die for a truck load of goods… unfortunately someone else will

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Altruistic-Cable-489@reddit

I hope one day you find something that makes you want to live rather than die. Life is a precious thing.

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scottonaharley@reddit

Do you hear yourself? Let me say it again…you would rather DIE than deal with the legal repercussions of defending yourself.

Dude, you need psychiatric help. That sentence is a cry for help if I’ve ever seen one. It’s not even funny as a joke.

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tehdanerer@reddit

Honestly, I’m all for self defense, but the a lot of people are brought up this way and backward thinking.

That’s why they think that, not because it’s right.

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ThatBikerHyde@reddit

Let him and others like him have their Darwin Award, they get it only once

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ComradePotkofff@reddit

It the achievement they've all been waiting for: the lifetime achievement award.

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

You got kids? Young kids? I’m sure they’d disagree.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

no kids

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Joseph10d@reddit

Who woulda thunk?

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NukaDadd@reddit

Saw that one coming.

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Awesome. Please do the world a solid and refrain from procreation for the rest of your life. Thanks!

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stephenbmx1989@reddit

Lol you would rather die??? 🤣 who’s mans is this

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Dan_H1281@reddit

Just because this is the way you feel doesn't mean others feel the same way. I feel like anyone should carry if they want to especially when u live in the road in strange towns every other night. By the time someone jimmies your lock and gets in a proficient user will babe the gun ready to go. Sometimes they don't want just yourkas they may want you.

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BlahajBlaster@reddit

That's your choice, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, I've got a partner and a community that I need to give back to and I can't do that if I'm dead

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zonnipher117@reddit

That's the most ridiculous crap I've seen all day

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gunsndonuts@reddit

Cool, you do you bro

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

yeah, i appreciate that... where is the respect for people that choose to not have a weapon.. it's not a dig at people who do, it's just a personal choice, if I did have a weapon I would be signing myself up for, weapon cleaning and maintenance, ammo purchasing, legal registration burdens, visiting ranges to ensure I can fire with competency... etc... plus in a confined space a fixed blade knife can do alot of damage 😀

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santanzchild@reddit

And finally thebcrux of it.

YOU WOULD RATHER.

The rest of us are not you and value our lives more than a legal fee.

This describes your mindset completely and no ther discussion is needed to see who you are on this topic.

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SamuraiJono@reddit

Good for you. Very weird of you to make this post condemning the rest of us for disagreeing, though.

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grimnir_music@reddit

If in self defense, you will likely not have legal issues. If you do have issues, at least you’re alive. And yes, it will 100% protect me in the truck.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

How many of these gun owners have a Defense attorney on Retainer, your going to need one

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gregshafer11@reddit

What about your fixed blade knife? Do you have an attorney on retainer?

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

I will represent myself 😀

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ColinSmiley@reddit

Read some of your comments here, you think you’re gonna have a good time representing yourself with that grammar?

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FullAutoAssaultBanjo@reddit

I think he'll get the representation he deserves.

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elitemarxman@reddit

That's the dumbest thing you can do. Even lawyers will hire a lawyer if they have to go to court for themselves.

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gregshafer11@reddit

Good luck to you.👍

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Nikahelibo@reddit

US law shield is a very affordable attorney service that covers its members nationwide. It’s also incredibly accessible.

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truckerdraven@reddit

Also attorneys on retainer is also a good one.

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Quite a few, actually. A large percentage of those of us who carry have signed up for CCW insurance, although “insurance” is a bit of a misnomer. It’s more membership to a service that has lawyers on retainer for the members to use should they need them.

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l337manic@reddit

Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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grimnir_music@reddit

USCCA is affordable self defense insurance. They provide the legal assistance when you need it.

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awaythrowthatname@reddit

Oh no, I might need to pay some legal fees, better choose to stop breathing instead

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

most don't go to trial

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whubbard@reddit

Notice how nobody here is all high and mighty that you are scared of a tool? Truck drivers' lives have been saved by having a weapon, both inside and outside of the truck. Even the CDC agrees that guns are used way more in defense than in criminal acts.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/

Of course, they quietly removed it from the summary in 2022, but you can still find it in the full study here: https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/18319/chapter/3

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OhNoTerry@reddit

We just had a driver slaughtered in his truck on an off ramp on I-80 in Utah. Neck sliced open and left to die on his bed. Anyone who’s against such tools for us drivers needs to piss off. Especially as poverty, and sanity of the public has become worse.

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anotherashehole@reddit

You think having a gun would have helped someone who's throat was slipped in his sleep?

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FullAutoAssaultBanjo@reddit

How do you know he was asleep when his throat was cut? You think a ninja assassin snuck into his bunk?

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RocksofReality@reddit

Don’t know. I believe it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

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wgrantdesign@reddit

Good lord what a way to go. My heart goes out to the driver and their family.

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zhelfrich@reddit

A pistol can be wielded easily in a cab. And I’ll take years of headache if it means years of being alive. If you don’t want to own a gun then don’t. You shouldn’t be concerned with whether I do or not.

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dadbodsupreme@reddit

"Lol, just get dragged out of your truck and beat to death, pussy!"

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

I am too heavy in LBS to be dragged anywhere lol.. but the robber could take whatever, it's all insured..

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moondog__@reddit

You don't need to pull someone from a vehicle to bludgeon you. They can still take the truck with your corpse inside.

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Ornery_Ads@reddit

Is your life insured sufficiently that a road raging psycho killing you for going too slow is worth it to you?

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dadbodsupreme@reddit

I don't care how fat someone is, I care how dead they are.

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Lord_Muddbutter@reddit

If they want to kill you, they will just shoot you in the back of the truck cab before you could do anything.

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AaronTuplin@reddit

That's right! I mean how would I even have time to load my musket, let alone maneuver it in such confined quarters

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Own-Contribution2747@reddit

Arguable- but even if… wouldn’t those months and years of legal issues be preferable to not one more moment- of anything again ever? It is to me and my family.

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ComradePotkofff@reddit

It's hardly arguable even. Personally, I will die fighting for another second of life.

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Lightyear18@reddit

You must think the world is sunshine and rainbows. That no one commits murder out on the road.

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The-1@reddit

Idk that 44 loaded with birdshot under my bunk says otherwise, probably will be deaf afterwards but possibly alive.

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Iron_Patton_24@reddit

Maybe you should look up the word “deterrent.”

It’s quite something.

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DIYnivor@reddit

a gun won't protect you in a confined space like a truck cab

You're a complete idiot.

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ultralight_ultradumb@reddit

A gun works great to protect oneself against people dedicated to committing violence against you, in a truck or outside of it. You know how guns work, right?

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scottonaharley@reddit

Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

I bet the Rodney King trucker disagrees....

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Reginald Denny. He’s my go-to example when people ask me why I carry.

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

Thank you, I never knew his name

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Billybob_Bojangles2@reddit

lol what a dumbass take. literally made me laugh

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Upstairs_Chris@reddit

Might be the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.

Good thing I don’t take advice from people who don’t know the difference between your and you’re.

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poopoomergency4@reddit

if you think someone's buying an AR or a shotgun to defend themselves in a truck cab, you don't much about guns.

they're buying a handgun. practically designed for shooting in confined spaces.

brandishing a firearm is absolutely a crime. that's why you only pull it out when you need to shoot someone in self-defense.

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FinzClortho@reddit

Ok, you're right. Just don't even try. Since you say it won't work, guess it's best to just be totally defenseless. How pathetic

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Packingheat248@reddit

Found the Harris voter 😂

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SamuraiJono@reddit

I'm a Harris voter and I think OP is dumb for this take.

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moosearehuge@reddit

Nothing in the paragraph you wrote is remotely true

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RubeRick2A@reddit

Hey all, we get free choice of parking now!!!! Woooo

Look out Buc-ees , it’s on!

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FlamingoAlert7032@reddit

Your theory is subjective conjecture at best and has been tested countless times to prove otherwise.

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banevader699@reddit

did you miss that viral road rage video where an aggressor was shot from a cab of a pick up truck?

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Hungry-Lemon8008@reddit

💯

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Whoretron8000@reddit

Americans love cosplaying hero or self defender in their head. Statistically, you're more likely to be trigger happy... And running is statistically safer.

But fuck statistics and reality when we can touch mags.

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RoosterzRevenge@reddit

Do you seriously think running is safer? Have you ever seen a typical American truck driver??

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Whoretron8000@reddit

Lol. But yes, falling down and shitting yourself after 10 meters is safer than potentially getting shot by your own firearm.

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RoosterzRevenge@reddit

I've been a gun owner for nearly 50 years, have never been shot by one of mine or any others. If you don't like guns don't get one. You do not get get to impose your mis guided fears on me.

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Whoretron8000@reddit

Your opinion and anecdotal experience is just that. Statistics don't give a shit about your snowflake reactionary BS. Your fear of gun control is misguided. It's based on emotional reactions, not facts. Your personal experiences are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

You think you're being tough by saying "deal with it," but you're ignoring the real-world consequences of gun violence. Your opinion is worthless in a world of billions.

Owning a gun is more dangerous than not owning one. It puts you and everyone around you at risk. Your selfish desire for self-defense is a threat to public safety.

Stop pretending you're a lone wolf. Your individualism is killing people. It's time to prioritize the collective good over your own ego.

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

These superheroes in this thread dont have time to think about stats. Its all about ego.

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Whoretron8000@reddit

Can't think too much when you gotta pew pew.

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Waisted-Desert@reddit

If someone breaks into my truck and politely asks me to vacate my property so they may steal the truck, trailer, and load, then I don't need a gun. But I've never heard of that happening.

Usually a thief breaks in with the understanding that they will need to do grievous bodily harm to remove the driver from the vehicle. I much prefer to defend myself in that situation.

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beipphine@reddit

Remember Reginald Denny, he was yanked from his dump truck by rioters, beaten to an inch of his life, then had a cinderblock smashed on his head crushing his skull into 91 peices. The LA Four were let off with a slap on the wrist for the attempted murder. He wouldn't have had to had his head and face rebuilt and go through years of therapy had he shot them dead.

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BeenThruIt@reddit

I have literally yelled out my windows, " I ain't no Reginald Fucking Denny, now get away from my truck."

The people of Baltimore are exceptionally friendly and helpful while it's light out. Once it gets dark, though, there are some streets you just don't belong driving down.

I worked out an alternate route of my own after that encounter.

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TruckingJames423@reddit

I don't seem to remember that being a cinderblock those assholes busted over his head. I seem remember that being a frigging toilet.

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mctwiddle@reddit

Exactly, you have the right to defend yourself from such hostilities.

You don't have the time to hit pause and wax poetic to consider exactly how much you're about to get hurt when you're attacked, you just know that there is someone that is very hostile and you have no idea how much they intend to hurt you or even kill you.

Also your family needs you alive and able, all the insurance money in the world isn't going to replace mommy or daddy.

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parwa@reddit

Do you think he could've shot all of them or

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weman1970@reddit

After he shot the first one, the other 3 pussys would run away

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President_Eden_DC@reddit

That's some good fiction right there. You writing a book?

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Manufactured-Aggro@reddit

Do you have terminal marvel-movie brain disorder?

Show me 1 video where a crowd EVER bumrushes a guy who just shot a gun 😂😂😂

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RocksofReality@reddit

I agree with your sentiment and rationale people respond to violence, especially with a force multiplier. The whole Kyle Rittenhouse story is crazy and on reason is after he shot someone the crowd rushed him. Maybe it’s because he was scared and wasn’t looking to stand his ground or maybe he was retreating to an area where he felt safe. But literally after shooting 2 people more people rush him. Doesn’t make any sense.

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ThatsRighters19@reddit

That’s the way it usually happens. Your tune changes when you see one person in front of you getting shot.

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Wildwood_Weasel@reddit

Worked for that kid in Kenosha.

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seang239@reddit

Doubt it, they’d likely run as soon as they saw he had one through the door window. None of them would have made it to the door handle, much less be able to open the door and pull him out.

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komstock@reddit

I like to think of a firearm with a high capacity magazine as the greatest anti-lynching device in human history.

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Mindes13@reddit

You're right, he wouldn't have had to go through surgery and therapy because of he would've shot any of those people, he would've been killed right there.

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salmiaklakrids@reddit

Define woman

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ear_cheese@reddit

Congratulations, you found the exception that proves the rule. They didn’t do that because they wanted his stuff- they did it because they were angry, and he happened to be there.

You’re much more likely to get shot for not pulling up at the pumps (or calling someone out for not doing so)

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salmiaklakrids@reddit

Fuck off.

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Specialist_Usual1524@reddit

It’s not that I value my stuff more than your life, it’s that you value my stuff more than my life.

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SwampMagician1234@reddit

Life insurance?

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FilthyNasty626@reddit

I have a german shepherd and a gun for the dumbass that wants to test the shepherd. 16 years driving and I never had to unholster that gun inside the truck. Now, the shepherd has had some fun with some fuel theives and some stupid trucker thay decided to climb up on my steps and try to pull me out of the cab. Out of those two deals, I got me a free dewalt siphon pump, assualt charges on another driver, and lot n lots of shit eatin grins

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moldschlager@reddit

Thats good that it's never gotten that far. Some of these guys are so egotistical that they think their experience dictates everyone else's and never needing one till this point means they never will

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FilthyNasty626@reddit

That sounds like that driver that tried to pull me out. Dude was coming out the entrance to a place at maybe 30 between rows of trucks parked on either side as I was turning in. Wanted to nose up to me and not backup. The ego out here is incredible. That's OK. Last Monday I hung up the keys after those 16 years and 2M safe miles. 2M is a nice number to throw in the towel. Sadly, after 40 years here, trucking is the only thing I am good at. Going to have to start at the bottom somewhere but damn, less stress is worth it!

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justmenevada@reddit

But, you're not. Decide what you need for self protection.

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FarmersTanAndProud@reddit

Follow state laws, follow all licensing and permit regulations first and foremost. Getting caught with it illegally means you will never have that issue again because you will never own one again.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

From a company standpoint, the truck, the load, AND the driver are all replaceble.

The potential lawsuit they might incur from you defending yourself is more of a PITA than just chalking up your death to "the cost of business".

Dont be a dumbass, always have an out for YOURSELF, if someone wants to just hijack the truck that has nothing to do with me, just lemme log out of the Elog first.

Also, "park better" is the most ignorant braindead thing i've heard, unexpected delays happen that better planning can not solve.

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FarmersTanAndProud@reddit

The most important bit is learn where you can and can't have a gun. You will never use it, unlike what most truckers seem to think, but you WILL get pulled over and the guy or gal pulling you over is going to LOVE the extra paperwork you just made them do when they find said gun so you better make sure you do everything right.

And if you fuck up somewhere while carrying? You're gonna meet a LOT of people :)

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Law-Fish@reddit

Won’t stop you from crazy, if someone is breaking into a occupied cab and does not listen to a evac request (fuck man take it let me go fuck this rig) then it’s a good friend to have. Only took my short time in trucking to be made glad to have my uncles advice of strapping the doors together

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Climaxcreator@reddit

Thank God insurance will revive me after I'm killed...

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FarmersTanAndProud@reddit

Look, I like guns. I believe in gun rights. I own guns.

But it's hilarious to me how paranoid people are. The chances of you dying by a break in robbery is slim to none. The chances of you dying by a car crash is MUCH higher but I hardly EVER see anyone wanting EXTRA tools to prevent that...

BUT GIVE ME A MF GUN BUD!!! I'LL JOHN WICK A MF!!! - 400LB Trucker.

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Feeez_Shato@reddit

"A gun is not a weapon, Marge. It's a tool. Like a butcher knife, or a harpoon, or... uh, a... an alligator. You just need more education on the subject. Tell you what. You come with me to an N.R.A. meeting, and if you still don't think guns are great, we can argue some more." - Homer S.

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CA_Orange@reddit

Quoting Homer Simpson to prove a point is kind of idiotic. Homer is, famously, very dumb.

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Feeez_Shato@reddit

It’s what we call a “joke”

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CA_Orange@reddit

Is it, though? It sure sounds a lot like some MAGA gun freak talking point.

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stephenbmx1989@reddit

Nothing wrong with voting for Trump or being pro second amendment sir. Just say you don’t agree with it and move on.

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CA_Orange@reddit

Nothing wrong with being a Republican and pro 2nd Amendment. There's definitely something wrong with being pro-Trump.

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stephenbmx1989@reddit

You have the right to think that. And we have the right to not give a shit about what you think.

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Joseph10d@reddit

I bet that whoosh burst your ear drums

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salmiaklakrids@reddit

Define woman

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Baby_Billy_@reddit

What being chronically online does to a mfer

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Elderado12443@reddit

Wow.

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Jocelyn_The_Red@reddit

The irony is astounding.

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halapeno-popper@reddit

What an astute observation. I bet your parent’s fridge is decorated quite well with your grand achievements.

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Feeez_Shato@reddit

"Best Place"

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NerderBirder@reddit

“You tried and failed miserably. The lesson? Never try.” -Homer Simpson

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Wookieman222@reddit

Dang really? Man have ai been doing it wrong then.

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Whoretron8000@reddit

You're so close to understanding....

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Feeez_Shato@reddit

It’s called a “joke”

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paulbunyanshat@reddit

This is making the assumption that criminal x only wants the truck and/or load without having any inclination towards violence (premeditated or sporadic). This is anti-self defense propaganda.

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JuniorToe1@reddit

Reading these comments gave me a sigh of relief I thought I was tripping for carrying my ccw but after a few sketchy encounters I vowed to never hit the road with out it I could give a fuck about the company truck or the load my safety is priceless and making it back home safely to family is all that matters idgaf about the rules yall be safe out here drivers🫡

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

what scenarios have you found yourself in? I'm genuinely curious, people are making it clear it's for safety purposes, which is fair enough. but you can't have a loaded handgun in a vehicle while traveling is my understanding

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chowsdaddy1@reddit

Of course you can have a loaded hand gun in your vehicle while driving/traveling especially if you have a permit to carry weapons (dependent on state and local laws)

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JuniorToe1@reddit

Yea it was in fl I have a Ccw in fl I only run in the south so I only carry in the south even when I was otr I always followed the law and the reciprocity with my state it’s been times where I’ve thrown away magazines over 10 rounds just to go into cali so I follow the laws

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JuniorToe1@reddit

Park outside a shipper on a reset at night in Florida and some broke the glass to get into my tractor so I pulled my gun

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Wadester58@reddit

Your life isn't

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CumminOnOnionRings@reddit

Insurence cant bring me back to life

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notbannd4cussingmods@reddit

Not yet.

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Tasty_Lead_Paint@reddit

They would only bring you back to life so you can pay your premiums. And then the revival insurance company will deny your claim.

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Frankus44@reddit

Then send dog the bounty hunter to repossess your life

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

life insurance can take care of your love ones...

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IntelligentSeries416@reddit

It’s not about the money it’s about being around spending that time with my loved ones, man you’re simple.

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chaoss402@reddit

No it can't. Life insurance can't help my wife raise my kids. It can't do anything about the way any of my family would feel about me dying.

Have you considered talking to a therapist about your depression? I honestly feel bad for you with how little you value your own life.

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Grand_Cookie@reddit

I’m leaning towards troll because that’s the most brain dead take I’ve seen in a loooooong time.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

I figured he was either beyond dumb or a troll when he said "just park better"

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Unless you’re a shitty wife/husband/father, I’m pretty sure your loved ones would pick you over money given the choice. Why they’d pick you, I don’t know. You seem kinda slow.

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Gemmasterian@reddit

Insane take lol how is it back at dispatch?

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Own-Ask2702@reddit

Yeah but your forgetting about the waking up dead part and how it could of been prevented.

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Abubble13@reddit

Not a $10k one it wont

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Enlightend-1@reddit

The guns not for the load, I don't give a fuck about the load.

The gun is for me because living in a 8x12 moving space full of my personal belongings that can be hijacked incredibly easy is a vulnerability.

You realize if you have a key to one 2012-2016 freightliner Casacadia you have a key for EVERY Casacadia model of that year.

You can cope and whine about me having a gun in my cab all you want but I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

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spyder7723@reddit

You realize if you have a key to one 2012-2016 freightliner Casacadia you have a key for EVERY Casacadia model of that year.

This is not correct. Freightliner has dozens of different key codes. A lot of carriers will order the trucks they buy with the same key code, but that's not the same as all trucks of a certain make and model all having the same key code.

You can cope and whine about me having a gun in my cab all you want but I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

This is 100 percent correct. Every American citizen should have a gun and be well trained in its use.

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Virel_360@reddit

There’s this neat little trick, you can use where you take any Freightliner key and you jiggle it up and down rapidly multiple times and eventually it will unlock the door. I have done this to another truck who is backing into the dock left his truck running and locked his keys in his door. I use my Freightliner key, jiggled it up and down inside the keyhole About 30 to 40 times while attempting to twist and it eventually unlocked his door. I saw YouTube video and how to do it, anybody with a key can get in your truck

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TheFringedLunatic@reddit

I can personally attest to this having had to do it twice to my own ‘22 Cascadia, using the key of a rando that was nice enough to help out.

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P3tr0@reddit

It's much worse on the older Freightliners, my 03 key has unlocked 8 different trucks from 01-08

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chowsdaddy1@reddit

Just like a parachute you can have it and not need it, but you’ll only ever need it and not have it once!

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bobmonkeyclown@reddit

Truck and load are covered by insurance. I also have life and health insurance.

Still doesn't mean I'll let someone yank me out of the truck and assume I won't get major injuries or killed after.

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JHurtsownsurteam@reddit

You missing the biggest part

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notbannd4cussingmods@reddit

I dont even think this person is a driver. Maybe some local fuck wit that never leaves their nice suburbs or something, any otr with miles on them would see why having something for self defense would be extremely useful.

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

How about a bat? Thats what euro truckers do and its more than enough.

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RoosterzRevenge@reddit

Bad guy with a gun>truck driver with a bat

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Mistermeena@reddit

Yeah, depends how likely it is that your attacker has a gun though. A bat is probably sufficient for most of Western Europe.

If you get into an altercation in Australia, I've never thought: "fuck this guy might shoot me". Different in the US though.

If I've wronged somebody I apologise and fix it. If I've been wronged, I let them know without deliberately escalating to violence. Don't get worked up over small things

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notbannd4cussingmods@reddit

Nah that's correct. Especially in states with relaxed gun laws but even in states with gun laws, guys that do bad things also break the law and carry guns.

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

You arent meant to win lmao. If a trailer full of apple juice and instant mash is worth fighting for in a armed robbery youre either an idiot with a deathwish or a naive keyboard warrior.

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banevader699@reddit

that’s great if you live in Europe where there isn’t a fraction of the guns around

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banevader699@reddit

the only thing this guys driving is a mobility scooter around walmart

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FlamingoAlert7032@reddit

No, he/she isn’t. This is part and parcel of a liberalist retardation mindset to deflect from the actual narrative.

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JustDrew_92@reddit

Well this is the dumbest take I've heard today, thought OP was trolling tbh

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DNGR_S_PAPERCUT@reddit

I could careless about the truck or the load. I'm just trying not to get raped. Why did god curse me with these good looks? I wish I was ugly like the rest of you, non gun needing ugly truckers.

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dingdingdredgen@reddit

I don't need a fire extinguisher in my truck because I've never had to use it before. I don't need safety triangles because I've never had to use them before. I don't need a drive cam because I've never had to use it before. It's weird how I legally have to have all this stuff, be trained to use it and maintain it, but I've never had to use it, but the thing every person has the right to is a problem.

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redpoetsociety@reddit

They may just want to steal your life.

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dbssguru727@reddit

Screw the load and the truck 🚚 the 🔫 is for YOU!

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KrisSanze@reddit

OP wants us to buttfuck thiefs to death

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

lol, would you B fuck to save your life?

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KrisSanze@reddit

Maybe. I'll let them choose. .45 or anal love. Gun and dick don't discriminate

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hoarder59@reddit

Anyone on here ever had to use a gun, or been in ACTUAL need of a gun, in the course of their duties as a truck driver? Are you personally aquainted with someone who has? ( Really, not imaginary)

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bsmknight@reddit

Ok. Not advocating buying a gun here, but i do need to point out a fallacy. Insurance did not cover it. You will get an estimated amount which is FAR LOWER than what it will cost to replace what you lost. Let's say the blue book value they will give you is $10k. It's going to cost you 20k to replace it. Losing the vehicle and everything inside can absolutely cause most people to lose everything. Many times, the money from the loss will just go to the bank to pay off the loan, so you are still stuck with the full 20k to replace it. This could wreck a small family or business.

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GiantEnemaCrab@reddit

There have been plenty of studies that show the chances of accidental discharge or unnecessary escalation are greater when you have a gun vs the chance that a gun will actually save your life. The chances of someone actually robbing the truck is incredibly low, and the chance of someone COMING FOR YOU instead of the cargo is basically zero. But the chance of you accidentally shooting yourself or getting paranoid and shooting a homeless man then ending up in jail is much greater.

But don't waste time trying to explain math to truck drivers, half the people here don't understand why it's bad to not get overtime pay.

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SilvermistInc@reddit

Post your sauce, right now.

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GiantEnemaCrab@reddit

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/debunking-the-guns-make-us-safer-myth/

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

https://time.com/6183881/gun-ownership-risks-at-home/

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/04/gun-safety-research-coronavirus-gun-sales/

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

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SilvermistInc@reddit

Wow. That Harvard study is extremely flawed. Like scary flawed. Yeesh

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poopoomergency4@reddit

the chances of accidental discharge or unnecessary escalation

both of these are easily prevented by... imagine this... training yourself on how to use your gun that you bought.

which you should do anyways. since you have a gun.

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GiantEnemaCrab@reddit

Yeah but most people don't rofl.

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poopoomergency4@reddit

those people should train themselves on how to use the guns they bought.

it's very easy to avoid becoming the statistics by doing that.

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GiantEnemaCrab@reddit

Yeah but most of them won't. That's how statistics work. Statistically most people think they're a genius action movie hero who will save the day with their handgun, but are more likely a dumb ass who will shoot themselves or a bystander, or escalate an otherwise non-lethal situation into themselves getting shot.

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poopoomergency4@reddit

which brings us back to "so do those things".

"but other people are stupid" doesn't mean you're dispensing useful advice for smart people who are perfectly capable and willing to do that pretty small amount of effort to safely prepare to defend themselves.

and to be brutally honest, that's the exact quality of response you're getting from an american cop anyway. the only difference there is the response time, and your capability to improve your own firearm skills.

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GiantEnemaCrab@reddit

It means just because you think you're smarter and more skilled than other people doesn't mean you are.

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poopoomergency4@reddit

no, it means lots of people don’t train enough. you act like negligent discharges just “happen” by virtue of the gun showing up.

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

This has been proven false many times

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StuntID@reddit

Neither of you showed your work. Sad

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

darn it, your right.

Self Defense use of firearms is about 1.7-3 million times a year

https://reason.com/2022/09/09/the-largest-ever-survey-of-american-gun-owners-finds-that-defensive-use-of-firearms-is-common/

Firearm harm by mistake.

https://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-info/accidental-deaths/

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Capn_T_Driver@reddit

Generally speaking you are correct. However, as right as you might be NOW there’s no guarantee you’ll still be right later. Also, I’ve heard tell of some crazy things happening along the US-Mexico border, and ages back truck hijacking was actually a thing.

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jrw100990@reddit

You don’t tell people what they do and don’t need

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stan-dupp@reddit

exactly i need hookers nobody can tell me i dont

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Joseph10d@reddit

Who’s to stop two consenting adults?

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stan-dupp@reddit

some of the thing they do to me i dont consent to until its over

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RoosterzRevenge@reddit

And blow

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RedSun-FanEditor@reddit

While the truck and the load are covered by insurance, your life and safety are not. Insurance isn't going to save you if you get hijacked or someone breaks into your truck while you're asleep. And not everyone who breaks into a truck is interested in stealing the truck or your load. Sometimes they're just batshit crazy and no amount of insurance will fix that situation.

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Le6ions@reddit

People who believe compliance equals safety from criminals are naive fucking idiots

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harley97797997@reddit

No one is carrying a gun to protect either of those. This comment is an ignorant one.

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DellTheEngie@reddit

I really wanna hear EU truckers' perspective on this.

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AyyYoCO@reddit

Dumbest statement I've heard today.

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Catjackdi@reddit

My driver in Christ, the load and truck may be covered by insurance but my life sure fucking ain't 😭

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Braaapus_Maximus80fo@reddit

The liberals of Reddit never cease to amaze me. Some of the most delusional people on earth, 90% of whom have never had any real life experiences.

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Trendinghashtagmeme@reddit

Op is either depressed, a bot, or a troll. Tf kinda post and comments are these

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whubbard@reddit

Nobody here is saying you need one, but appreciate the smug judgement on the choices of others.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

well, I don't know any responsible gun owners that post pictures their weapons, with clips in them, in a confined space on the internet

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

Your post shows you don't know a responsible gun owner if he introduced himself and had a beer with you.

Not to mention your own words shows everyone you are clueless about firearms....

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IntelligentSeries416@reddit

“Clip” 😂

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Virel_360@reddit

This guy obviously has never handled a gun or firearm in his life. He probably just got back from hammering his Harris sign into his front yard, and then turning on the light above his gay pride flag in his front window. He actually probably poured himself a glass of almond milk and was thawing out of vegan tofu patty while he wrote that post.

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

your very sensitive for a 'gun owner'

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radiationblessing@reddit

What does gun ownership have to do with sensitivity?

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

Certainly gun owner ship requires a calm and even tempered personality

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Pillsbury069@reddit

Get a load of this guy, the emotion police.

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radiationblessing@reddit

Is this something you know or are just assuming?

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Sunbeamsoffglass@reddit

*you’re

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bigdickdaddyinacaddy@reddit

I don't even think he's a driver, probably not even over the age of 18 from what I can tell.

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

Also, can you tell me what the relationship between a confined space and a firearm is?

I'll help you, it hurts the ears. This is why we need common sense gun laws for safety, like unrestricted silencers.

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chaoss402@reddit

This a thousand times over.

Any time someone advocate for common sense gun safety laws, the correct answer is to ask them if they mean requiring suppressors on firearms.

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Virel_360@reddit

Yeah, because we all know guns in a picture can discharge themselves without anything interacting with the trigger…

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whubbard@reddit

So basically every cop you know, isn't responsible with guns? Every military member in a Bradley, HMMWV, etc is irresponsible?

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

Lmao yes truckers and cops carrying guns totally same thing.

Theyre required to be armed to do their job. All youre required to do is to sit on your ass and recycle your piss jugs and you guys seem to have trouble with half of it.

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whubbard@reddit

The other poster did not say it was a matter of training, but of a gun in a confined space. And you would be very worried to know how few rounds and how little training cops get compared to plenty of concealed carrier owners.

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RoosterzRevenge@reddit

Thanks for confirming your ignorance.

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banevader699@reddit

it’s a magazine. and you must not be part of many gun related subreddits. and what does a “confined space” have to do with anything

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

Thats just nitpicking and you know it

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poopoomergency4@reddit

nitpicking is good when it comes to guns. if you get something wrong with a gun, someone dies.

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RCcarseatheadrest@reddit

Exactly. Leave the gun home and someone gets off with a beating.

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banevader699@reddit

is it? or maybe you shouldn’t talk about a subject you know nothing about. not even basic terminology

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poopoomergency4@reddit

i don't know any responsible gun owner that calls them "clips"

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SilvermistInc@reddit

It's a magazine

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OhNoTerry@reddit

A magazine in a gun doesn’t mean shit until the firearm is rendered hot. Like a nail gun with no airline, useless.

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RubeRick2A@reddit

“With clips in them” ….clips….🤣

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FlamingoAlert7032@reddit

You said clips. I’m out.

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grimnir_music@reddit

Obviously it needs to be loaded and ready. And they are not clips. They are magazines.

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KillerCam357@reddit

Nope I’m get my free one

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themtoesdontmatch@reddit

Toy box killer is probably the reason why I stay strapped

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elitemarxman@reddit

I don't give a rats ass about the load. I'm not sticking my neck out for the insured product of a billion dollar company, but if you break into my tractor, I'm sending you to Jesus.

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Manufactured-Aggro@reddit

"The Load & The Truck is covered by insurance"

The gun isn't to protect those you moron lmao

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

so much emotion over a tool. Do you feel this much estrogen over a shovel?

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Todd2ReTodded@reddit

No one on this subreddit is physically fit enough to use a shovel.

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

darn it, your right

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Todd2ReTodded@reddit

I point my gun at it and say get to diggin pardner

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mysterysackerfice@reddit

Sometimes I get heated about hoes

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Veryhappycommission@reddit

hahahaha I almost typed that but backed off

OP was already too wound up I didn't want him to think I was calling him a hoe

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mysterysackerfice@reddit

Why would you call someone a gardening tool?

/s

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rainbowcoloredsnot@reddit

I'd rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6

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ComprehensiveDark814@reddit

Firearms aren't for defending property. You're attacking a straw man with this argument and it reveals how little you respect people you disagree with.

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fvgh12345@reddit

Yeah because thieves always let you go of you give them what they want Not like there isn't thousands of cases and videos that show that's not true or anything

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moldschlager@reddit

Back in my thieving days i always wanted a side of butt with my score

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IDoWierdStuff@reddit

less criminals is good.

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Joseph10d@reddit

I’d rather live and fight in court battles than be murdered or seriously harmed for anything I own. I have a family that cares about me.

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moldschlager@reddit

I've been driving for 2 days and have never been robbed or attacked. That means it'll never happen to you

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IntelligentSeries416@reddit

Get a gun! don’t listen to these idiots. You have the right to defend yourself, if you’re a POS and wanna break into my truck you’re going to learn a very valuable lesson.

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v3gas21@reddit

A lot of truckers are really, really unsafe gun owners. This needs to be rectified with classes on gun safety and proper gun ownership. Sorry to say but a lot of people don't know how to properly handle a firearm and can get themselves and innocent bystanders killed. Guns shouldn't be in the hands of untrained civilians let alone be so ubiquitous that a common criminal can get their hands on one without anything stopping them. Get your training guys and be part of the solution.

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moldschlager@reddit

No regulation you can cook up will ever stop a crook

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Conbon90@reddit

Fucking Americans. Cant go about their day without a gun strapped to their hip. Youd swear they where living in some sort of war zone and not the most afluent country in the western world.

you lads are actually fucking nuts.

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Sure-Debate-464@reddit

Been driving 20 years....never had a gun. Guess I have just been lucky.

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OverallAnt9855@reddit

Thats what they want. Just let the criminals do what they want

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Wide-Engineering-396@reddit

My life is insured too, but I'll protect it , and I own the truck , castle doctrine

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FinzClortho@reddit

Your life is covered by insurance too. Your family will get it.

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chaoss402@reddit

Life insurance covers finances. That's it. If that's all the value you assign to your own life, you need to see a therapist about your depression issues.

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FinzClortho@reddit

You don't get sarcasm do you?

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chaoss402@reddit

I don't know if you are being sarcastic, but OP made the exact same argument and he isn't being sarcastic. He's either stupid or trolling, or he doesn't value his own life.

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FinzClortho@reddit

I agree. I was being a smart ass.

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chaoss402@reddit

Sarcasm doesn't carry over well in gun debates, when the people who hate them make every conceivable stupid argument and are doing so in all seriousness.

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chaoss402@reddit

If you read the guy's posts he isn't being sarcastic. He's either stupid or trolling or he doesn't value his own life.

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spyder7723@reddit

Tell that to Reginald Denny. Tell that to Jason Rivenburg.

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Claim_Alternative@reddit

Two drivers out of billions over a 25 year period

The chances of you winning the PowerBall is greater

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that_Delfin_guy@reddit

I could care less about my load. My gun is for my protection. Maybe you'd understand if you had a family who loved you.

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njwineguy@reddit

Yes. But how much do you love them?

Unintentional firearm injuries are a leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the US. (CDC)

Link

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chaoss402@reddit

Do you even bother to read the abstract? Death by accidental injury is among the top causes of death, and guns are a leading cause of those injuries. Over the course of 18 years they recorded some 1200 deaths from accidental fire arms incidents. That's not a leading cause of death unless you consider a huge list of leading causes.

And considering how easy it is to be responsible with your guns, those numbers skew towards people who choose to not be responsible.

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that_Delfin_guy@reddit

you're trying to appeal to the wrong crowd here. they know what guns are and how to handle them. the 4 rules of gun safety do not fail.

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njwineguy@reddit

lol…first of all, your faith that everyone here is that careful is almost definitely wrong but believe what you want…I’m not trying to appeal to anyone…just offering up a fact-based perspective…

to be clear…truckers with handguns aren’t the problem…the ability to slaughter dozens in seconds with automatic, semi-automatic, and modified weapons of war is the problem

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that_Delfin_guy@reddit

nope, you're still wrong. i'm not responding to you after this one. you argue in bad faith, and think you can appeal to emotion to get others on your side. but common sense will always prevail. even my little sisters know guns aren't the problem. we have a mental health problem in this country. take away the guns and people will just use cars, knives, bombs, etc. so just ban everything then? where does it end? bye.

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njwineguy@reddit

You use words but say nothing:

1) how am I arguing in bad faith? 2) I’m citing statistics. Data is data. If you’re getting emotional, that’s on you. 3) your little sisters are as dumb as you are, assault weapons are not going to be replaced by the things you cite and inflict the same damage; proof? the rest of the world

But that’s okay. You keep putting your little sisters in danger. I’m sure they’re fine with it.

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njwineguy@reddit

lol

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Cman1200@reddit

Overwhelming majority of gun deaths are from handguns

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njwineguy@reddit

The more realistic starting point is renewing the assault weapons ban - which actually worked.

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Budget_Foundation747@reddit

OP isn't one of us, they're someone who's home every night and isn't capable of understanding the core truth of trucking.

Whatever situation you find yourself dealing with, you've got to deal with it on your own, there isn't anyone else. Help more often than not hours away.

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SomeoneRandom007@reddit

"Covered by Insurance"... but not the premium hike, the trauma, the loss of earnings, and the inevitable gap between the loss and what the insurance pay out.

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DonLotto92k@reddit

Better safe than sorry. You can’t predict how desperate or far someone is willing to go!

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Iron_Patton_24@reddit

My life isn’t.

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Vortr8@reddit

so the theif is just gonna take all your belongings with him

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MarionberryNervous19@reddit

Lmao troll

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ButterflySpecial6324@reddit

My life isn’t

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Virel_360@reddit

Yeah, but in order for you to collect your life insurance, you’d have to be dead. The gun kinda helps your odds at beating that one.

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UncleSam7476@reddit

I carry a gun because I fucking feel like and there's nothing you can do about it. You act like people aren't killed in robberies.

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ultralight_ultradumb@reddit

They can have the truck and the load.

They cannot have my life.

You are making an assumption about what they are after. They are not going to sit there and listen to you if they have decided of their own accord that they want your life, or that such a trade is necessary for them to get the load or the truck. They are demonstrably irrational. You can sit there and say “here’s the keys”, but if they have decided that the only way they’re getting those keys is to kill you, then they’re going to try to kill you.

People who are desperate or psychopathic do not commit reasonable crimes because committing crime is usually not reasonable. You are trusting your life to the rationalizations of a very dangerous person.

You cannot reason your way out of this. You can run, fight, or die. What will you pick?

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Wildwildleft@reddit

I pack mad heat in my truck.

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AverageTrainNut@reddit

My wife and my dog are not covered by insurance

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Tasty_Lead_Paint@reddit

Insurance won’t save you if a hostile person is trying to kill you for whatever reason.
Not everything is covered by insurance
More claims = higher premiums = higher costs of doing business = higher costs of everything
Too many claims for everyone means no more insurance at all. Then you really will need a gun just to protect your stuff.

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Outlaw11091@reddit

Statistically speaking, if someone breaks into your truck with malicious intent, you're not going to have time to reach for your gun.

Life doesn't pause for you to get ready.

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Top-Sheepherder-3657@reddit

Based on what you've said ITT I don't think you're very well informed on the topic and your opinion can be disregarded by the people you have set out to argue with.

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atticthump@reddit

im just fucking tired of the gun posts it's all just fantasies of being robbed by some maniac who for some reason is also hell-bent on killing you, but you need a gun cos somehow you're gonna kill him first even though you keep it under the bed in storage. none of these fantasies will ever come true, but if they did, the real truth is you're a dead man whether you were armed or not. It's just delusion.

every thread has the same chain of comments anyway "judged by 12 or carried by 6" god damn you sound stupid w that shit

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No-Meat-1439@reddit

Better to have a gun and need it than not have a gun and not need it -Ricky

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Adventurous_Issue155@reddit

😆😆😆 I need a gun for me lol not the truck or load.

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Much_Comfortable_438@reddit

Ah yes...

But is your ego covered by insurance?

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Choice_Pop3111@reddit (OP)

probably if you let them charge you extra 😄

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