Is it fair to share a dog from opposite sides of the UK?
Posted by Odd_Pen_5219@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 20 comments
England/Scotland.
- Relationship for a few years.
- I wanted a specific breed of dog (large breed) for many years prior.
- Partner was against it.
- I made it happen and got the dog, since I wanted that breed of dog.
- I bought the dog from gumtree. I seeked out the ad, contacted the seller, and bought the dog.
- Since we were in a relationship, I figured this was 'our' dog and they gave me half the money.
- They took care of the administrative tasks like insurance, microchip registration because they worked in vet industry. I figured this was convenient at the time.
- We didn't marry or cohabitate.
- We broke up when dog was 3.
- They lived around for corner briefly when we shared the dog.
- We verbally agreed to share the dog. Not much thought was put into it, no discussion was had about the future.
- They moved away home back to family for a year or so (12 hours away).
- They then got a new partner and moved away again. Still 10 hours+ drive, 500 miles away to the opposite side of the UK.
- Shared custody of the dog goes on for nearly two years, splitting up the year.
- Dog has been in my possession 8 of 9 months this year.
- I have dog registered to vet in my city.
- Ex has dog registered to them, in their city.
- Dog gets ill and I put a pause on the transfer until he's better.
- They demand that the transfer goes ahead.
- I question whether this arrangement is healthy for the dog, and wish to start a converation about it.
- They say arrangement is fine, and a disagreement ensues.
- Dog is nearly 6 years old now.
- They strongly disagree and want to make the dog travel thousands of miles per year to make the arrangement work. I disagree as I think shipping a dog so far and so frequent isn't good for the wellbeing of the dog.
- They offer to do all the driving, and I disagree because a 10+ drive multiple times a year doesn't seem good for the dog in addition to sharing two households.
- My priority is the wellbeing of the dog, not whose turn it is.
- I suggest dog has a stable life in one place with one owner, considering the dog's age.
- They threatens legal action and phone the police on me to open up a police file on me.
- They are adamant the dog is actually theirs, and not mine.
- I don't have the contact details of the seller.
- I have emails of purchase. Is this proof of purchase?
- Ex has dog's microchip registered to them. I'm not on microchip.
- I ask why I'm not on the dog's microchip, ex says the dog isn't mine.
- Dog insurance is in ex's name. I pay them direct debit.
- Ex stating that dog is theirs, and not mine.
- Ex is suggesting mediation, which I don't believe will be productive given how much we disagree.
What are my options right now? I don't want to be taken to court over this. Does my ex have strong grounds to take the dog away from me, or to have a court force the arrangement continue? I feel it's unfair that they can take control of documentation/admin like this, because on paper it may seem like the dog is solely theirs but I don't see that as the truth.
I don't know if this holds any weight here but can the comparison be made where a partner controls someone's finances, and thus controls the other person?
In my eyes, I see him as my dog because he was my idea and I pursued him, and got the dog. Ofcourse we shared the dog because we were in a relationship, and I shared the dog with my ex because I was trying to be kind and not hurt them. Now they are saying the dog is their dog and not mine. I believe my ex is willing to go all the way with this, and I am unsure how far this can go or what can happen here.
hodgey66@reddit
Have the police spoken to you or was that just a threat?
Odd_Pen_5219@reddit (OP)
Not spoken to me. Opened a police file about me.
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I would speak to a vet if you want an answer to the headline question.
Otherwise, it's a really difficult situation as both of you have fair claims to the dog. Whilst you brought the dog and are it's primary carer, the insurance and microchip are in their name.
You would probably need to go to a mediator before you go to a solicitor, as they're probably going to send you there anyway. Bare in mind a mediator will cost a fair bit each, and if it goes to court even more.
If I were you I would gather as much proof (texts, emails) etc that the dog was entirely your idea and you purchased it. Also, a written opinion from the vet as to how good the travelling will be for the dogs health could be useful. Not sure if it will help but maybe get your own insurance taken out on the dog in your name.
ashakespearething@reddit
Strongly advise for your own welfare not to get into sharing.
However, in terms of the dog's welfare it'll probably be fine. Dogs like their people and they like routines, the travel is just another routine and with regular stops etc it'll be ok while the dog is youngish.
In terms of the legalities, it sounds like you're on the back foot with everything being in their name. Try one of the legal subs.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
They've already been sharing long distance for years
ashakespearething@reddit
My point is they're asking if legally they could be forced to continue. My advice (as someone with a long experience of such an arrangement) is not to.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
Your first two paragraphs are talking like they're not already doing it.
ashakespearething@reddit
Noted, edited for you.
Apprehensive_Cat2991@reddit
Who actually gives a fuck
Mop_Jockey@reddit
The dog owners...
Apprehensive_Cat2991@reddit
Whomever owns your mam is a dog owner
Mop_Jockey@reddit
and your da sells Avon.
SlySquire@reddit
This
Jacktheforkie@reddit
I would say it’s likely stressful to the dog,
BuBBles_the_pyro@reddit
If you have the dog the majority of the time, call their bluff and say they can keep it full time.
It might sound harsh, but this is crazy, you should have said no when they first moved away. Time to accept you wont have a dog anymore.
Never know, she might not want the dog full time and you can keep it.
Delicious-Cut-7911@reddit
I would put this in r/legal . IMO you bought the dog . He was only a boyfriend and not your partner. You were not married or living together. I doubt whether a judge would order you to share a dog from the other end of the country. I had a dog before I was married. It was my dog. It was still my dog when I got married.
GFoxtrot@reddit
Speak to a solicitor.
https://www.mplaw.co.uk/insights/news/tug-of-war-who-gets-the-dog/
alexdelp1er0@reddit
What a stupid situation.
Who shares a dog
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