How much impact do the Presidential Elections actually have on the hiring market?
Posted by EclipsedDog@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 37 comments
I keep hearing in a bunch of conversations I have either with recruiters, seasoned pilots who’ve been flying longer than I’ve been breathing, pilot groups I’m a part of etc. I know hiring is very slow if not at a stand still at the moment and that it’s due to a variety of compounding factors.
But one line I keep hearing (outside of the Boeing debacle) is that hiring will pick back up after the election. My question is simply why is this? Are there certain policies that either candidate has that may positively or negatively impact the aviation industry? Would love some insight into this.
TemporaryAmbassador1@reddit
It has a lot to do with how many “no way” and “that’s crazy” I’ll drop in conversation with the others I fly with.
hate737@reddit
Damn that’s crazy
NoPhotograph919@reddit
Thanks Obama!
Puravida1904@reddit
Big impact. Look at who the largest donors are to the Republican Party (All airlines with AA leading #1)
NuttPunch@reddit
It has a huge impact. As will the riots after the election. Hopefully the right guy wins this year.
Flying21811@reddit
Of course you were downvoted on LibReddit
DarthStrakh@reddit
Reddit more liberal because it's not 90% geezers. Go back to Facebook lol
Flying21811@reddit
Give me 3 good reasons why to vote for her
Funkshow@reddit
You don’t support an insurrection and the first non-peaceful transfer of power on American history.
You respect the institutions of the United States and want to ensure that they don’t crumble.
You want the country to survive as a democracy more than you care about your own tax rate.
NuttPunch@reddit
I have personally witnessed my voter information being stolen. I was denied a normal ballot in 2020 and my party registration keeps changing without my consent. I have burned ballots sent to dead relatives repeatedly. I don’t respect the institution that promotes this. 2020 was a fraud election
Iplay1965jaguar@reddit
Das crazy
NuttPunch@reddit
Not really. But I’m sure you think everything is fine and corruption doesn’t exist. Like a child
Iplay1965jaguar@reddit
Corruption definitely exists. That trump guy was one of the biggest examples in recent history.
NuttPunch@reddit
I remember when he talked to PUTLER
Flying21811@reddit
Good luck next to 90% of the captains you will fly with down the road.
Funkshow@reddit
This is why I don't fly for a living anymore. I prefer to spend my workdays with people that can think independently.
ihatemakinguzernamez@reddit
Flying21811@reddit
100% anyone that thinks otherwise is a blue hair maniac.
Razhi3l@reddit
you must be a peach to share a cockpit with
Flying21811@reddit
I don’t talk politics in the cockpit because of reasons like this.
TemporaryAmbassador1@reddit
It has a lot to do with how many “no way” and “that’s crazy” I’ll drop in conversation with the others I fly with.
DarthStrakh@reddit
She's not senile and actually makes sense when she talks instead of borderline insane ramblings. You need short clips to make her look bad, Trump needs short clips to find the bits that are even intelligible.
She won't make our country the laughing stock of the world. One of the presidents main jobs is diplomacy after all. She actually has good points and debates, doesn't just say whatever she thinks will get the best soundbytes.
She's not putins butt buddy. Funny how all the shitty dictators love Trump. I guess we'll ignore his ties to epstien.
I get being against some of the blues political statements, but voting for the senile old pos is crazy to me honestly. It is extremely sad that it's the only option for people who don't agree with the dems policies tho.
Flying21811@reddit
We can agree to disagree on everything you just said. See you at the polls. May the best man win.
DarthStrakh@reddit
I just stated facts tho. I deliberately avoided points that could be argued based on opinions. But okay man
Flying21811@reddit
Someone being Putins butt buddy is not a fact…you stated 3 liberal opinions. I could argue the opposite for them all.
NuttPunch@reddit
I knew I would. I don’t care. They can seethe all day. If Kamala wins they can keep complaining about poor hiring too. I got my seat
purodirecto@reddit
You're a riot!
Mispelled-This@reddit
Stock markets (and thus businesses) hate uncertainty, oddly more than they hate either of the two possible outcomes.
ivegotgoodnewsforyou@reddit
Not odd at all. Different sets of companies/industries will be the winners vs. losers. But the stock market contains them both.
Ablomis@reddit
IMO: Realistically, the major global events and economic cycles have much more impact. Compared to war in Ukraine and pandemic, who wins election is just a rounding error. The rest is just narrative. Politics is very inert, it’s not like a new president can make significant changes by themselves immediately. There is congress and legislative process and lobbies etc etc.
bhalter80@reddit
Business drives a lot of airline spending which turns into demand for flights and pilots. There's a thinking that repubs are good for business while dems are more restrictive with regulations. If you believe in this then an orange president would mean higher demand for pilots and more hiring.
In reality fiscal years end in December or January typically so companies look to hire in the beginning of the year since they have the most clarity on their plans for the next fiscal year. It has very little to do with elections since if a legacy is hiring you it's for 30 years not 4.
Regionals may be able to expand and contract on 4 year cycles through attrition, and that may even be driven by the mainline carriers contracting out more to them but legacy hiring will be more related to the corporate cycle
2dP_rdg@reddit
fiscal year for any sizeable company in the US and the US Govt ends on Sept 30th.
bhalter80@reddit
The government's runs until Deptember 30th but large companies tend to run calendar years
Dell's ends Jan 31st
JPMC ends Dec 31
Target is Jan 31st
IBM Dec 31st
Funkshow@reddit
Airlines aren’t going to start hiring or firing because one person wins and not the other. We don’t live in an autocracy.
prex10@reddit
Biden has seen the best times for legacies and the worst for regionals. Obama and Trump saw the best times for regionals and normal for legacies. Bush saw the worst of both.
So real mixed bag and a lot of events outside the oval office came into play.
ComprehensiveEar7218@reddit
Elections always impact airline economics, regardless of who wins/loses.
Uncertainty = pullback. That's just how it works. Always has, always will.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I keep hearing in a bunch of conversations I have either with recruiters, seasoned pilots who’ve been flying longer than I’ve been breathing, pilot groups I’m a part of etc. I know hiring is very slow if not at a stand still at the moment and that it’s due to a variety of compounding factors.
But one line I keep hearing (outside of the Boeing debacle) is that hiring will pick back up after the election. My question is simply why is this? Are there certain policies that either candidate has that may positively or negatively impact the aviation industry? Would love some insight into this.
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