American Honda Recalls Approximately 720,000 Vehicles in the U.S. to Inspect and Replace Defective High-Pressure Fuel Pumps
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DM725@reddit
Honda and Toyota are definitely not having a good time holding on to that that perceived reliability with their new models.
6786_007@reddit
Yeah, it's not looking good. I even got rid of the CRV we had over the oil dilution issues, lately I've been reading those same 1.5Ts are blowing head gaskets. The CRV was a great SUV thing, nice interior, and awesome radar cruise and lane centering, but I'm glad we dumped it.
Porto_Roma_812@reddit
What did you replace it with?
6786_007@reddit
We got the RX350 to replace the CRV. The CRV engine was gutless, I mean I would put my foot down and it was more of a request than a command. The RX's driver assistance isn't as nice, but the 2GR is a great engine, minus the leaky timing cover which seems to be very common.
element3215@reddit
I had a 2022 Civic Si and the 1.5t was the worst thing about the car. The engine tuning was awful, the car would pull power and boost pretty regularly in summer, plus my car had the steering issues honda is just recalling 3 years later and interior quality was awful. Rattles everywhere. Made an versa rental I had seem well put together. I'm done with Honda after owning that car. The 1.5t is an emissions only engine.
WingerRules@reddit
What's crazy is Honda set themselves up to be a reliability leader by eliminating the transmission, but they're blowing it.
Tsao_Aubbes@reddit
Wow they're so unreliable Honda is even fixing it for you for free 🙄
Any time there's a recall this exact comment gets posted. The cars are fine
Own_yourmind@reddit
This is it!!! This is the comment, they can close the thread now 😁
Funny_Frame1140@reddit
Why? Ford is still the most recalled brand
DM725@reddit
Ford doesn't have the same street cred for reliability that Honda and Toyota do.
NapsterKnowHow@reddit
True although my 2010 Ford Escape is still doing well with almost 190k miles on it. Sadly need something more fuel efficient though.
beforesunsetearth@reddit
Buddy I've got a Mk6 (2014) GLI with 190k and it's going well... Knock on wood
Treactor@reddit
Anti Ford shills in every thread. Is there a Ford in the room with us right now?
imjoeking69@reddit
Like clockwork
imjoeking69@reddit
Like clockwork
Bombaysbreakfastclub@reddit
What’s that have to do with OP’s comment?
NCSUGrad2012@reddit (OP)
Cars recalled:
sc0lm00@reddit
My wife's 19 has a recall for an impeller and I don't think we've been able to get it fixed yet. At least haven't received notice that we could yet just that there was a recall. So good luck.
seantaiphoon@reddit
My 2020 Civic had a bulletin for fuel pump starvation issues sending bits of it into the engine (Filter). Have yet to get it replaced. Fuel pumps haven't been Hondas forte lately.
DoveFood@reddit
I had a mid-2010s civic that had a faulty a/c something, and I had to get it replaced, and then re-replaced pretty much every summer.
poho110@reddit
10th gen. Civics, which are 2016 through 2021 had a shitty AC system. Part of it was a compressor shaft and the other part was poor placement of I think it was the condenser, allowing it to easily get damaged because it was low and towards the front of the vehicle. They actually have an extended recall on it now.
element3215@reddit
Honda's in general don't have great AC systems. My wife's 2015 civic has 80k miles. We've had the AC go out twice. 1st time was the AC compressor coil replaced under warranty, 2nd time was the compressor leaking freon(just outside of warranty but they repaired it anyways for $150 which was nice of Honda). Other than that it had its rear shocks leaking and have been replaced.
Even the 11th gen civics people were complaining about the AC systems in the forums. Seems like luck more than anything if the AC will be reliable or not.
New_Significance3719@reddit
I mean the condenser is pretty much wide open and visible on the lower lip of the front fascia. It made me so anxious when I had my ‘17 Civic Hatch. I know pretty much every car has their condenser there, but something about how visible it is feels way worse.
seantaiphoon@reddit
Did you feel as if your AC was under equippedfor hot days?
My 20' hatch felt like it took half an hour to cool down in the sunny AZ heat if it ever cooled down.🫠
New_Significance3719@reddit
It was, I traded it in for a 2018 Sonata pretty quickly due to a number of disappointments and the Sonata’s AC blew ice cold air almost as soon as you began driving, my current Ioniq Hybrid does too on triple digit days in tennessee.
The heater was much the same, there was even a time when I saw the engine temp needle actually go down while driving the Civic on a cold night. I’ve never seen that before, and it would take nearly 20 minutes of my commute for actually hot air to blow. My Ioniq blows hot air in about 5 minutes thanks to its exhaust heat exchanger thing.
ducky21@reddit
That was the low pressure, in-tank pump that feeds the HPFP.
yerFACE@reddit
Mvp award
NCSUGrad2012@reddit (OP)
Thanks, dude
No_Elevator_3676@reddit
2019 CRV owner, the dealership called me and replaced my fuel pump for free last year. I'm shocked to see it's over 700,000 cars affected!
Beachmaster5000@reddit
Honda just replaced mine as well. 2020 civic si. Then tried to sell me on replacing my cabin air filter for 75 dollars! Btw it only has 16k miles on it. I said, No thank you
Tsao_Aubbes@reddit
That's the dealer charging you that much for the filter, not Honda. And by 16k your cabin filter is absoultely due by now.. most 10G's the filter only lasts 8-10k
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bigev007@reddit
Yeah, they wanted $100 to replace mine. I looked at it and saw it really was bad, walked over to the parts desk and paid $20 for a new one.
NCSUGrad2012@reddit (OP)
Always can replace your filters yourself, super easy to do.
Smart-As-Duck@reddit
It’s funny because these days I trust BMW more than I trust Toyota and Honda.
Spectacular98@reddit
I’m in a bit of a dilemma. Last week, I put down a $1000 deposit on a 2025 Honda HR-V, and the dealership called me saying it was affected by this recall. They offered me a refund, but I initially decided to keep the car until it got repaired today.
Now, after researching and talking to others, I’m worried about the long-term effects of a repaired steering gearbox, especially when it comes to resale value. Should I be concerned about this and push for a refund, or is it not as big of a deal as it seems?
xt1nct@reddit
Very anecdotal but I have been quite disappointed with the new CRV. Under 600 miles and needs to go to dealer for a rusty oem weld, knocking in axles when backing up and a recall.
orhantemerrut@reddit
Rust after 600 miles?! Where do you live, salt mines?
xt1nct@reddit
It’s a rusty weld inside the door. Manufacturing defect and really disappointing after hearing such great things about Honda.
uberdosage@reddit
How could hyundai have done this? Absolutely killing it
TheReaperSovereign@reddit
Good luck. My fk8 was notified of a fuel pump recall in January and by end of May my service center still had no parts to replace it and I sold it. That wasn't the only reason but it definitely contributed.
graytotoro@reddit
That’s no fun and kind of shocking considering how big Honda is as a corporation. Mazda is a small fry, but my 2016 Miata was only down for about two weeks when it blew up its HPFP in January.
NCSUGrad2012@reddit (OP)
How do you like the BMW?
My mom has a X3 M40i and says she was never a car person until she got this car and said she absolutely loves the car. The few times I have driven it the car has just been amazing to drive. We also did performance pick up since we live near the plant, which was very cool.
TheReaperSovereign@reddit
Way less raw than a Type R which is what I wanted. The steering especially is pretty numb and will probably prevent this from being a forever car but it's really fast, rides a lot nicer, and is overall just a more quality car compared to the Type R which has your typical Honda NVH
The b58 is just a monster. I gained 100hp and gained fuel economy. My insurance went down slightly too which is funny
Overall a really nice car. I would say get rid of the oem runflats asap and if you care about audio sound at all spring for the HK system because the base system (which I have) is horrible
ChaosBerserker666@reddit
B58 engines have ridiculous fuel economy. I had an M440i xDrive before this i4 M50 and I was regularly getting 35+ MPG highway and 27+ in the city.
6786_007@reddit
Which is crazy. My A5 can get upto 35MPG on the highway and it has 2 cylinders less. I sometimes wonder why I didnt just get the B58.
ChaosBerserker666@reddit
The B48 is even crazier. Car and Driver had a 330i that beat their Honda Civic in fuel economy on the highway test.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28915017/2019-bmw-330i-fuel-economy-test/
They got 42 MPG. lol
6786_007@reddit
Dam lol. Beating them at their own game.
TheReaperSovereign@reddit
Look in my post history
That's a bit of a one off, because I mostly did highway driving for the beginning of September and then went on vacation for 2 weeks so I didn't have a chance to bring the average done, but the fact that it's possible is ridiculously impressive.
NCSUGrad2012@reddit (OP)
She's only done about 10k in 2.5 years so the tires probably have a lot of left left in them, lol
TheReaperSovereign@reddit
Lmfao. I've done 5k since may 31 when I got it and I was on vacation out of the country for 2 weeks.
I'm hoping they will be toast by end of winter. They make ALOT of road nice and they're stupidly expensive (330$ ea for me I believe. Probably more on an SUV)
peakdecline@reddit
It took me approximately 18\~ months and 3 dealer visits to get the HPFP replaced on my Gladiator. I hope Honda owners don't have that same wait and hassle.
thecanadiandriver101@reddit
Ding ding ding. That's why I got an FL5
bigev007@reddit
My local dealers still they have gotten zero pumps to replace from that one, and it was 2.5m cars
DerangedGinger@reddit
My Ford Fusion stalled out for this and I nearly hit someone. Ford said there was a TSB but it wasn't covered under the drivetrain warranty.
bigev007@reddit
Lol, I'm still waiting for them to get parts in for the fuel pump recall on 2.5 million Hondas that came out a year ago. Good luck newly recalled people.
MechMeister@reddit
I still don't know anyone that was left stranded from the lift pump failing. I feel like it affected a dozen people and they over did it with the recall. I don't have any qualms about driving mine to the middle of nowhere
Cdubyah523@reddit
So glad I have hung onto my old 2013 Civic with 330k miles. I haven’t had any recalls or major issues with it. Bought it brand new with 3 miles on it. Looks like I will wait a bit longer so Honda can pull itself together.
These cycles happen. I remember the early 2000’s when they had issues with transmissions in the v6 accords and Odyssey’s.
They also had issues with head gaskets on some of the Civics.
They eventually sorted it all out. Toyota has definitely had its share of poor reliability cycles over the years, too.
I believe these cycles help them grow.
I remember when Microsoft had the issue with their Xbox 360. They learned and grew from it and later came out with the Xbox One which turned out to be a great system.
The Series S I have has also been incredibly reliable with no issues.
gumol@reddit
Oh nice, so my 2023 CR-V Hybrid is like on its third recall. I don't think the second recall is even ready to be fixed.
Astramael@reddit
Now hang on just an incendiary minute, Honda stepping all over my turf!