Applying for jobs, what should I put in the required 'Education' box? I don't have GCSE's.
Posted by ChildishChild000@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 47 comments
I'm 18, and finally trying to apply for an actual job. Unfortunately, I had a difficult time at the end of my school years and ended up leaving without any GCSEs because of that (It's a more complicated situation than that - one that reddit does not need to hear about - but that's the crux of it). I've read that multiple people say you don't need GCSEs for 'lower-level' jobs, but some application websites actually require filling out that field. If you don't put anything in, you can't apply. I have previous work experience in a genuine work environment, but both of those relied on my parents. I did spend some time making a CV and applied to a retail job, but I can't help thinking that I was rejected because I didn't fill out the 'Education' box correctly. I'm not sure what to do, and don't want to risk wasting another 2 weeks on applications being rejected because of a box that holds little weight to whether I can stack shelves.
Questjon@reddit
Honestly I'd lie. Be realistic, don't say you got an A+ in maths if you can't do algebra but as long as you think your standard of English and Maths is on par with the average person your age you shouldn't be held back by what is ultimately a pointless qualification. They will never check your GCSE qualifications and if really haunts you down the road there are options to retake them as an adult, often free.
ChildishChild000@reddit (OP)
I considered it, honestly. But, there is the off-chance that they would ask you for your papers. I've read that employers have asked people in their 30's for their results. While them asking for proof might not be common, I'm not sure if it's worth the risk. Maybe I will.
Iainfletcher@reddit
If you’re worried stay away from education and public sector places. In my experience they’re the only ones that care.
MaleficentSwan0223@reddit
I got great GCSE results and I’ve never been asked for them in my life. I’m 30 now!
I’ve no advise on this but I failed my alevels due to a difficult time in life, managed to get myself together and 6 years later I earned a first in my degree. If you ever need them or any other qualification you can do it. Where there’s a will there’s a way.
Awkward_Chain_7839@reddit
Same but I’m 45!
jamscrying@reddit
Have a Master's degree and have never shown any qualifications to any employer.
iHazzam@reddit
My employer made me post them my degree certificate to verify
Velcro-hotdog@reddit
I went back to uni at 40 and they wanted my GCSE certificates!
JavaRuby2000@reddit
At Uni now in my 40s doing a Masters they asked for any certificates I had but, they weren't really required.
JavaRuby2000@reddit
This is usually for higher up positions. I've only been asked for my certificates in finance at the same time as doing a background check. Mc Ds or Subway are absolutely not going to check your qualifications.
Competitive_Art_4480@reddit
You haven't got them and lost them in a burglary. You can get them from your school at some point if that's ok? (Don't bother)
scottfultonlive@reddit
It’s highly unlikely that they’ll ask. I’d risk it and if they ask tell them you don’t have the certificates on you and you’ll send photocopies later and then just ghost them. But I’ve never once been asked in 13 years of working
anabsentfriend@reddit
I've had four public sector jobs over the past 30 years and have had to provide my original certificates for all of them at interview.
As an aside, my friend recently took her GCSE maths at evening school at the age of 40.
Competitive_Art_4480@reddit
What do you mean by "had to" though? They asked and you have them? What if you said I don't have my GCSEs? Are they really going to deny you if you clearly have evidence of education past that?
anabsentfriend@reddit
I had to take the original certificates that they took copies of. My applications wouldn't have been taken further without providing them. I had GCSE, A level, and Degree certificates, I was asked for them all.
Iainfletcher@reddit
This is a public sector thing. Most places don’t do this.
Mr-Incy@reddit
Just put in the box 'Secondary school level'.
It is a tricky one, especially for young people, because you won't have a lot of work experience some employers will look at GCSE results to show whether you are someone who puts in effort to learn and achieve decent results.
ChildishChild000@reddit (OP)
I don't dislike that idea, it's good enough to have it filled in. While it's slightly misleading, it's not too misleading. Thank you.
Awordofinterest@reddit
Just food for though - I have never known an employer to ask for proof of GCSE certificates. It's also highly unlikely they will pay the fee to the exam board (Which they won't know which exam board to even ask) to check these are legitimate.
Iainfletcher@reddit
This.
If you can do it then just claim you have the bit of paper. From OPs post he seems quite articulate. Aside from some public sector places that insist for process most places don’t check.
smasherfierce@reddit
I had to prove my GCSE results when I worked at the local council, but I feel that's probably quite a specific thing to the council. Interestingly they didn't care about any other qualification, including my degree, just the GCSEs
JavaRuby2000@reddit
Do you do any GCSE equivilants? I got kicked out with no GCSE but, had to do "home tuition" that gave me some basic competency maths and English certificates.
You could just blag it until you can get a job and then do some form of education at night school at your local college (It should be free if you are under 21). No minimum wage job is going to check up if you are telling the truth about GCSEs.
pajamakitten@reddit
I will go against the grain and just say be honest. If you are 18 and have little in the way of work experience, they will reject you on that alone because of how many people will be applying for the same job but have relevant experience. Having no GCSEs won't help but there will be others applying for the same jobs who have little to no GCSEs too regardless. Your best bet is to have a really good cover letter that explains why you want to use this job to turn your bad situation around and to try and come across as determined in any interview you get.
BCS24@reddit
Add to this, get on a course to sit the essential GCSEs and in job applications you can reference that you are retaking/taking them.
I wouldn’t look to get into a first job based on false information, if you want to be a professional in the kind of jobs that pay well then you should be someone that can be trusted.
Otherwise plenty of people have rightly said that you probably won’t get caught, you could throw an A* or two in there while you’re at it.
Lonely-Job484@reddit
This is the right answer. Present yourself in the best light of course, but don't lie. People talk, you don't want to get a reputation for dishonesty.
7ootles@reddit
Education: [completed primary school]
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
Personally I would just put the high school you went to. Whether that is enough for them I don't know. If you are lucky enough to get an interview you can explain it to them.
I would consider looking into adult education, maybe go to an open day and look at what is available. This can also be vocationally related education. The moment you have another qualification, what has happened in the past matters much less.
ChildishChild000@reddit (OP)
Putting the school could definitely work too. I've considered actually taking them, but unfortunately, the need for an income trumps that at the moment. I've not looked into any adult education, though. Perhaps I should. Appreciate the help.
Competitive_Art_4480@reddit
There are a LOT of free courses that will give you maths and English GCSE equivalents.
Often low level courses for other things will make you do them anyway regardless of if you have your GCSEs. Iv done a lot of courses for different trades and I must have done these adult equivalents a good 4 times.
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
Of course you have to sort out your financial situation first. But do look into it, the ability to do these kind of things part time may be a possibility and its tough balancing school and work but its an option. And look into what education you are eligible for and from what age it is no longer "free", the worst thing would be putting it off until you are so old you have to pay for it.
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
Also look into local agencies. I did something like that some years ago when between jobs. I ended up working in Bars, Nightclubs, warehouses etc. If you get your head down and work hard you might even get a more permanent offer from somewhere you have done some agency work.
cybergazz@reddit
Yeah I was thinking that - doesn't help you right now but I also dropped out of school without quals for reasons beyond my control, thank god for adult Ed, getting the qualifications in my 20s changed my life! For right now, maybe do some courses online, put the name of your school and just be honest that you had to drop out for personal reasons but have been studying independently - it's not GCSE but it shows gumption and definitely beats a blank space. Or just cut out the chaff and get a degree, try these for starters? https://www.open.ac.uk/ https://www.learndirect.com/ https://www.wea.org.uk/ https://www.coursesonline.co.uk/ https://www.reed.co.uk/courses/nvq/online https://www.udemy.com/ https://www.coursera.org/
You don't have to live with the consequences of crappy luck forever.
Consistent_Dust_2332@reddit
School name & dates
Grange Hill 2014- 2020
( but the truth)
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
And maybe until you find a paying job, look at volunteering somewhere. This might also help your CV.
Competitive_Art_4480@reddit
Just put 5 GCSEs at C and above including maths and English.
That's what I always put these days as that's often the minimum requirement.
GuybrushFunkwood@reddit
Anything ….. in the history of employment for all mankind no one has ever checked, nor given a fuck about GCSE results. When Ramsees went for a job at the Pharaoh’s official pyramid 3000 years ago as a trainee Mummy wrapper even he lied that he’d got a B+ in Crocodile studies.
anabsentfriend@reddit
I've had to produce my certificates for every job I've had (public sector).
pajamakitten@reddit
Not true. Working in education will require proof of all qualifications. It might not be common in other sectors but some employers may ask too. Not for a low level retail job perhaps, however there is always a chance that any company could casually ask.
Hopeful_Scratch_5237@reddit
Why don't you do a free course in maths and English? I did the English one years ago, so I could at least put down level 1 or 2 ( can't remember now). I did a free computer literacy one too. Little things like that help. Saying that, im 45 now, and on my indeed account the other day, I totally lied and said I'd passed all my gcses 😆. The truth is, I didn't pass any, but my thinking is that I could have if I'd have turned up. You'll be fine. Good luck
Batalfie@reddit
Go back and get some GCSEs, you're not locked out of them forever just because you missed the usual time. English and maths you can get at very least.
Kawaiikyuto@reddit
Just lie? They only check for proof if it’s for a college course I swear.
Savings-Ad9497@reddit
I don't think anyone is going to be ringing your secondary school to confirm or deny your grades. Particularly for the entry-level jobs you are applying for.
If you were applying for jobs outside of your competency then I wouldn't condone outright lies. But if that isn't the case then do yourself a favour and get your foot in the door.
Just be aware going forward that your educational background is weak. Make the experience you gain through these jobs count because you will come to rely upon this experience to pad your c.v for future roles.
Forceptz@reddit
Lie. A few C's and maybe a B.
Also, I was 20 when I went back to college to do GCSES. It's never too late.
SquashedByAHalo@reddit
You will be able to study English and Maths for free and get those GCSEs. You’ll just have to find somewhere offering them (local college, open study college)
Since 2013 it’s been compulsory to pass English and Maths at grade C/4 or above. You’re going to struggle to get any job without them so I’d suggest finding out the best route for you to get them asap
It’ll still be harder only having two but at least you’ll have achieved the mandatory qualifications
Melodramatic_Raven@reddit
This. Also note that often when they ask for that level of qualification they only care about the mandatory ones anyway 99% of the time.
Esoteric_Prurience@reddit
If you are applying to a job that doesn't have a minimum education requirement, but you have to supply education information, could you just put the years you attended secondary between year 7-11?
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