Another CFI Feeling Lost
Posted by throwaway42253@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 6 comments
Hi All. Looking for some advice on a future as a professional pilot.
I'm a CFII w/ \~400hrs who's about to graduate college, thinking about what direction to go in after. I did my instrument and commercial at a large 141 school in the southeast, everything else part 61. 141 was a struggle. 1 EOC failure during IR, 3 on the CPL EOC flight (clean pass on the checkride after as the school doesn't have self examining authority).
I've read all about the hard and soft limits on checkride failures and the debate on if 141 EOCs count as checkrides. I know opinions are mixed and constantly changing.
Regardless, am I employable? At an airline? Cargo? 135? I love being a CFI but it doesn't pay the bills. If I can continue to fly for a living that's great, but I've got big bills that will have to paid eventually.
NuttPunch@reddit
Look at your PRD. For these EOC busts did you fill out any paperwork?
throwaway42253@reddit (OP)
Didn’t have to fill out any paperwork. PRD has nothing.
NuttPunch@reddit
Anything on IACRA? 8710s? Sounds you you’ve never failed!
RegionalJet@reddit
There's not really much debate on EOCs counting as checkrides. If it's self-examining, it's a checkride. If it's not self-examining, it's not a checkride.
In my experience, airlines did not care about non-self examining EOCs, they didn't even ask me about them even though I disclosed on the applications.
G_Platypus@reddit
My understanding is unless the school does have self examination authority, then EOC are just stage checks and doesn't really impact anything. Some airlines will ask for any failed examination event and there's some debate on what they mean by that, but assuming you've never busted an actual checkride, I don't think you're doomed to be a pipeline patrol for life.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Hi All. Looking for some advice on a future as a professional pilot.
I'm a CFII w/ \~400hrs who's about to graduate college, thinking about what direction to go in after. I did my instrument and commercial at a large 141 school in the southeast, everything else part 61. 141 was a struggle. 1 EOC failure during IR, 3 on the CPL EOC flight (clean pass on the checkride after as the school doesn't have self examining authority).
I've read all about the hard and soft limits on checkride failures and the debate on if 141 EOCs count as checkrides. I know opinions are mixed and constantly changing.
Regardless, am I employable? At an airline? Cargo? 135? I love being a CFI but it doesn't pay the bills. If I can continue to fly for a living that's great, but I've got big bills that will have to paid eventually.
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