No, lets say he just shot him/her in the foot/leg to incapacitate her.
Time and again, when officers do this, adrenaline wires up the perpetrator, and they dont even feel the shot, they just keep going. Sometimes, the officer gets killed.
So yes you're right, but it's not practical nor advisable in these scenarios.
People that say this shit have absolutely no idea how hard it is to shoot a small area like the leg while the target is moving. Most police probably cant hit a target the size of a stationary leg, let alone one coming at them. Its not a fucking videogame. And if you miss, which 99% of people would, you are dead. You want them to aim for leg shots only and roll the dice on the 1/99 chance they get to walk away with their lives, day in day out? Ridiculous
Usually I’m all for criticizing a quick reach for the lethal option, but man when a big ass person with a knife is advancing on you and refusing to comply, after already trying to stab and slice you up, I think you’re well within reason to fucking blast them.
If anything he waited about a second too long to fire the first shot. After re watching the video I thought about when I would fire and it was about a second before he did. I also wouldn’t have just fired one round at a time, I would have immediately emptied the clip.
The fact that people think officers are just out there killing people left and right with no restraint is absolutely ridiculous. They are clearly taught to only fire a shot or two and wait to see if they back off and it clearly puts them in mortal danger some of the time.
If he wanted to kill her he would have fired much earlier and he would have immediately emptied the clip.
I’ve seen a lot of videos where a cop will only fire once or twice at someone charging at them. It seems like they are taught to attempt to incapacitate rather than kill first.
I’m saying you fire one or two shots to kill, and hope they are not dead and stop their advance. If
They continue to advance you unload the rest of the clip until they are dead. This way it gives them a minimal chance of survival because maybe your initial 1/2 didn’t hit a vital point but was enough to stop them.
Well you’re incorrect. If you have pulled the trigger once you believe your life is in immediate danger and you must stop the attack NOW. You fire the weapon center mass until the immediate threat to your life has ended. There is not enough time to fire twice and then think and check if you need to shoot more. This threat is going to KILL you if you don’t stop it RIGHT NOW.
Yes I realize that but I’m saying if your goal isn’t to kill the person then that’s something you might do. I’m not sure how cops are trained but they might be trained to attempt to minimalize casualties. Maybe I am wrong, I’m just saying I don’t know.
Firearms are a LETHAL option. When they choose to use a firearm the intention is to kill. Shooting someone in the leg or shoulder to “incapacitate” them is a hollywood thing.
I never said leg or shoulder. You’re all putting words in my mouth. I just said one or two shots.
Obviously you still shoot to kill but you stop after 1 or 2 to see how they react because there might be a chance you didn’t kill them with those shots.
Hey. Military police here. There is no such thing as a protocol to shoot once to threaten them or anything. Going by the books and training, if you shoot at all you're trying to neutralize the threat via killing them.
I would assume it's not. We train with local law enforcement, and our job often times is literally just being local law enforcement but in specific areas.
Isn’t your job to protect military assets. I would assume protocols for dealing with the protection of sensitive and expensive military equipment and secrets would be quite different.
Lol our job can be very wide in scope but generally not really. In places like military installations, or otherwise in places where there isn't a local police force, we really are just normal police officers.
Hell, the overlap between people who are or were military law enforcement and are or were civilian law enforcement is pretty heavy. Tons of my buddies are or were civilian cops.
They’re taught to fire center mass, and keep firing, to neutralize threat. This is just a fact, easily verifiable. They are never, ever taught to, say, go for leg shots or try to slow down a target with bullets.
Anyone who says "why didn't you shoot them in the leg??" is an idiot. Hard to hit, and if you do, there's a good chance you'll hit an artery and they'll bleed out and die very quickly
I don't think it's what they are taught, but they are hoping they will realize "oh shit I'm shot" and stop, and the officer will be able to possibly save their life.
Because it doesn't work. Adrenaline gonna make people keep going unless you hit a vital organ. There's a video of a guy with 20 AK47 rounds in his body, he falls, still manages to get up, take 3 steps, and then dies. Those 3 steps is enough to kill you.
Not really. Adrenaline gonna make people keep going unless you hit a vital organ. There's a video of a guy with 20 AK47 rounds in his body, he falls, still manages to get up, take 3 steps, and then dies. Those 3 steps is enough to kill you.
In before someone says "shoot them in the arms or legs" and forgets that:that shit tiny, it's moving, also arteries exist and they'll still probably die.
Unreliably. That's what you go when you have a team and freedom of movement. When you're against a wall in a hallway alone, you put them down so you can kiss your kids goodnight again.
cuz every cop needs to be military trained special forces style so they can combat drug fueled meth heads in hand-to-hand combat barehanded while the crackhead uses a knife duh anon.
otherwise the cop deserves being stabbed for being fat n lazy
I encourage anyone who actually thinks things work like this to ask any respectable martial artist what the best defense against a knife closing in on you is.
If the answer isn't "draw your gun and light them up like a Christmas tree" or "fuck off and run away," you're being fed bullshit.
I think a big part of that is that there are no guns available to the public.
I can understand being a little trigger happy when you have to deal with an unspecified amount of people with guns at a conflict.
However the fact that he didn't immediately taser the guy is just being way too lenient with the general population. At that point shoot him or teaser don't risk your life.
You are trained to shoot center mass for a reason.
A suspect with a knife can close a distance of 40feet before you can effectively draw down on them and take a shot. He was already at a disadvantage.
Then to try and hit a limb on a moving subject, in an a apartment complex, where a single missed shit can kill an innocent person is why center mass shots are ideal.
Between adrenaline, and anything else she was on she managed to take 3 shots before being effectively neutralized.
Holy shit, I know the backstory to this. This was my aunt's supervisor. She had just been laid off, and the police were doing a welfare check. No one really knows why she came back out with a knife, but it might've been suicide by cop.
“Sydney loved children and was an inspirational speaker to young girls that were coached by her former teammates and aspired to play high school and college basketball,” her obituary says. “Sydney’s legacy of friendship, empathy and love will live on in the hearts of everyone who ever met her.”
I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is. I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping, she buys shit.
I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it, I want to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It ain't the coffee in my kitchen. It's the dead
Slothhub@reddit
Sheboons on drugs are really something else
NoFapGymColdShowers@reddit
Uhhhhh
cope-seeethe-dilate@reddit
HopperMSTI38674@reddit
uhhhh what? speak. you can use your words.
KeyedJewedditor@reddit
heboon
unusualyardbird@reddit
Can we get the video? I’m not familiar with this. Thanks.
chris_chan8426@reddit
PoliceActivity on youtube
DonCroissant92@reddit
Wtf, at the moment, he got a door/onstruction behind him, blocking further movement, and she approached, he should have emptied his magazine into her.
Antsint@reddit
You can incapacitate someone with out killing them
cope-seeethe-dilate@reddit
theSearch4Truth@reddit
No, lets say he just shot him/her in the foot/leg to incapacitate her.
Time and again, when officers do this, adrenaline wires up the perpetrator, and they dont even feel the shot, they just keep going. Sometimes, the officer gets killed.
So yes you're right, but it's not practical nor advisable in these scenarios.
SlimShadyM80@reddit
People that say this shit have absolutely no idea how hard it is to shoot a small area like the leg while the target is moving. Most police probably cant hit a target the size of a stationary leg, let alone one coming at them. Its not a fucking videogame. And if you miss, which 99% of people would, you are dead. You want them to aim for leg shots only and roll the dice on the 1/99 chance they get to walk away with their lives, day in day out? Ridiculous
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
Leg shots are stupid anyways since knicking the femoral is lights out in <30 seconds
Pope_Aesthetic@reddit
Usually I’m all for criticizing a quick reach for the lethal option, but man when a big ass person with a knife is advancing on you and refusing to comply, after already trying to stab and slice you up, I think you’re well within reason to fucking blast them.
A_Dragon@reddit
If anything he waited about a second too long to fire the first shot. After re watching the video I thought about when I would fire and it was about a second before he did. I also wouldn’t have just fired one round at a time, I would have immediately emptied the clip.
The fact that people think officers are just out there killing people left and right with no restraint is absolutely ridiculous. They are clearly taught to only fire a shot or two and wait to see if they back off and it clearly puts them in mortal danger some of the time.
If he wanted to kill her he would have fired much earlier and he would have immediately emptied the clip.
chainer3000@reddit
Cops aren’t taught to shoot once or twice
A_Dragon@reddit
I’ve seen a lot of videos where a cop will only fire once or twice at someone charging at them. It seems like they are taught to attempt to incapacitate rather than kill first.
chainer3000@reddit
That is the exact opposite of what they are taught
A_Dragon@reddit
Yeah when you’re trying to kill them. I’m talking about what the protocols are for the initial engagement.
Evil80forces@reddit
There is only ONE protocol when you fire your weapon. What in the world are you talking about?
A_Dragon@reddit
I’m saying you fire one or two shots to kill, and hope they are not dead and stop their advance. If They continue to advance you unload the rest of the clip until they are dead. This way it gives them a minimal chance of survival because maybe your initial 1/2 didn’t hit a vital point but was enough to stop them.
That’s what I’m saying.
Evil80forces@reddit
Well you’re incorrect. If you have pulled the trigger once you believe your life is in immediate danger and you must stop the attack NOW. You fire the weapon center mass until the immediate threat to your life has ended. There is not enough time to fire twice and then think and check if you need to shoot more. This threat is going to KILL you if you don’t stop it RIGHT NOW.
A_Dragon@reddit
Yes I realize that but I’m saying if your goal isn’t to kill the person then that’s something you might do. I’m not sure how cops are trained but they might be trained to attempt to minimalize casualties. Maybe I am wrong, I’m just saying I don’t know.
Animalmode19@reddit
Yes, you are wrong. Cops are trained to not use their gun unless they intend to kill with it.
A_Dragon@reddit
Well that cop really needed to pull that trigger at around 10 feet and not stop until it was dead then.
Bigfrie192@reddit
Firearms are a LETHAL option. When they choose to use a firearm the intention is to kill. Shooting someone in the leg or shoulder to “incapacitate” them is a hollywood thing.
A_Dragon@reddit
I never said leg or shoulder. You’re all putting words in my mouth. I just said one or two shots.
Obviously you still shoot to kill but you stop after 1 or 2 to see how they react because there might be a chance you didn’t kill them with those shots.
natiplease@reddit
Hey. Military police here. There is no such thing as a protocol to shoot once to threaten them or anything. Going by the books and training, if you shoot at all you're trying to neutralize the threat via killing them.
A_Dragon@reddit
Do you think MP protocol might be different than the police? I would assume it is.
natiplease@reddit
I would assume it's not. We train with local law enforcement, and our job often times is literally just being local law enforcement but in specific areas.
A_Dragon@reddit
Isn’t your job to protect military assets. I would assume protocols for dealing with the protection of sensitive and expensive military equipment and secrets would be quite different.
natiplease@reddit
Lol our job can be very wide in scope but generally not really. In places like military installations, or otherwise in places where there isn't a local police force, we really are just normal police officers.
Hell, the overlap between people who are or were military law enforcement and are or were civilian law enforcement is pretty heavy. Tons of my buddies are or were civilian cops.
chainer3000@reddit
They’re taught to fire center mass, and keep firing, to neutralize threat. This is just a fact, easily verifiable. They are never, ever taught to, say, go for leg shots or try to slow down a target with bullets.
MasterofLego@reddit
Anyone who says "why didn't you shoot them in the leg??" is an idiot. Hard to hit, and if you do, there's a good chance you'll hit an artery and they'll bleed out and die very quickly
fiftyfourseventeen@reddit
I don't think it's what they are taught, but they are hoping they will realize "oh shit I'm shot" and stop, and the officer will be able to possibly save their life.
Derpinator911@reddit
Because it doesn't work. Adrenaline gonna make people keep going unless you hit a vital organ. There's a video of a guy with 20 AK47 rounds in his body, he falls, still manages to get up, take 3 steps, and then dies. Those 3 steps is enough to kill you.
You don't stop shooting until it stops moving.
AsianEiji@reddit
maybe mindful magazine size trying to not miss the target, because no way in hell your going to able to reload in melee.
A_Dragon@reddit
Well sure but you’re still better off firing at a slightly safer range and continually firing rather than pausing…if you’re trying to kill them.
The_Didlyest@reddit
There's another picture on X. She cut him pretty badly in the head with the knife.
endlessnamelesskat@reddit
Link? I'm morbidly curious
The_Didlyest@reddit
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1845970659475681656?t=Rm5oClVznIzWRu2t31oJ7w&s=19
AsianEiji@reddit
you cut off the arms and legs with a sword..... but modern society says guns is the way.
Derpinator911@reddit
Not really. Adrenaline gonna make people keep going unless you hit a vital organ. There's a video of a guy with 20 AK47 rounds in his body, he falls, still manages to get up, take 3 steps, and then dies. Those 3 steps is enough to kill you.
You don't stop shooting until it stops moving.
TheAussieGrubb@reddit
You've never fired a firearm in your life
DonCroissant92@reddit
True but extremely difficult when you are alone, not armoured, the opponent has a knife, you are trapped, and you have only a gun.
As you can see, she still approached after he shot her several times.
ReallyDumbRedditor@reddit
👅🥾
DonCroissant92@reddit
Licking her wouldn't help in this case but maybe it would have prevent her behaviour
ConnorOfAstora@reddit
👅🪟
natiplease@reddit
In before someone says "shoot them in the arms or legs" and forgets that:that shit tiny, it's moving, also arteries exist and they'll still probably die.
blizmd@reddit
As evidenced by your current mental incapacitation
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
B8
finglelpuppl@reddit
-sent from daddy's iphone
GimpboyAlmighty@reddit
Unreliably. That's what you go when you have a team and freedom of movement. When you're against a wall in a hallway alone, you put them down so you can kiss your kids goodnight again.
ArminTheLibertarian@reddit
You can also just admit, that you have never handled a firearm before.
BonniePrinceCharlie1@reddit
Incapacipating someone armed with a knife is unpropabable and will end up with you dead on the floor.
y0ody@reddit
[Removed by Reddit]
AstroError@reddit
ditto
IgotAseaView@reddit
It even makes demon noises as it’s dying. Wild
Gasster1212@reddit
Got a link
CursedKumquat@reddit
https://x.com/mrandyngo/status/1845963129026498974?s=46&t=X7Uj8hZlwqVt0p7kTUiJvw
chikan_teriyaki@reddit
This stirred up BLM lmao that whole group needs to be set a flame
Baseduser666@reddit
they all do after being hung from a tree
cope-seeethe-dilate@reddit
topkek
AutoJannietator@reddit
I remember lefties malding over this guy back in 2020 because he would objectively post videos of what they were doing.
fvgh12345@reddit
Better link https://x.com/null_user_value/status/1846086544572273026?t=UngG9uURB2uaPhXvp2ePmA&s=19
mjc354@reddit
Ammo and health didn't deplete as the video went on, 3/10
Based_Daoko@reddit
Fr sounded like an enderman dying
Lego-Under-Foot@reddit
Yeah that hallway is definitely haunted now
FuryVector@reddit
Just post a job application in the hallway it will go away.
fvgh12345@reddit
https://x.com/null_user_value/status/1846086544572273026?t=UngG9uURB2uaPhXvp2ePmA&s=19
weedweedaweedest@reddit
from the video, she was violent from the start and was given ample warning. She took the month of October quite seriously
ResponsibleAttempt79@reddit
She? Which video were you watching? Was there another incident with a woman instead?
weedweedaweedest@reddit
Yes... She as in biological woman
https://guhoyas.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/sydney-wilson/5626
https://www.newsweek.com/sydney-wilson-shot-dead-slashing-police-officer-1969116
AWOOGABIGBOOBA@reddit
dilate
cope-seeethe-dilate@reddit
Thadlust@reddit
Not that I’m one to go around respecting pronouns, but I’m pretty sure she’s a bio girl, just an ugly giantess.
FreshTomacco@reddit
kek
ihatemalkoun@reddit
American cops are trigger happy but my country cops aren't trigger happy enough.
I remember when the news hit that a police officer wheel kicked some dude with a knife everyone was like "wooooaaah based!!!!"
And I was just like... no? Not based?
Why does he have to risk his life doing showtime moves instead of being authorized to put 5 bullets in the dude.
NegativeKarmaWhore14@reddit
cuz every cop needs to be military trained special forces style so they can combat drug fueled meth heads in hand-to-hand combat barehanded while the crackhead uses a knife duh anon.
otherwise the cop deserves being stabbed for being fat n lazy
PM_NUDES_4_DOG_PICS@reddit
I encourage anyone who actually thinks things work like this to ask any respectable martial artist what the best defense against a knife closing in on you is.
If the answer isn't "draw your gun and light them up like a Christmas tree" or "fuck off and run away," you're being fed bullshit.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Because every country outside of the US have police officers doing their jobs without putting 5 bullets in people?
ihatemalkoun@reddit
I think a big part of that is that there are no guns available to the public.
I can understand being a little trigger happy when you have to deal with an unspecified amount of people with guns at a conflict.
However the fact that he didn't immediately taser the guy is just being way too lenient with the general population. At that point shoot him or teaser don't risk your life.
bioniclepriest@reddit
"Doing their jobs" this wheelkick officer isn't dead because of sheer luck
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Damn police officers in other countries are way luckier it seems.
bioniclepriest@reddit
What other countries?
Segs_Haver@reddit
I hope you're being hyperbolic, but yeah, he should keep a safe distance
a shot or two in the leg to incapacitate the perpetrator would be ideal, but not loading him with lead
ObscureAnimeFan@reddit
It's much harder to hit moving limbs and a shot to a femoral artery is deadlier than a shot to the intestines.
bioniclepriest@reddit
Also the bullet can hit the ground and ricochet depending on the floor material
Segs_Haver@reddit
gee, I kinda forgot about arteries, my bad
Diesel_Drinker1891@reddit
You do realise there's an artery in each leg, right?
Segs_Haver@reddit
forgot :(
TheCannonOfKittens@reddit
You are trained to shoot center mass for a reason.
A suspect with a knife can close a distance of 40feet before you can effectively draw down on them and take a shot. He was already at a disadvantage.
Then to try and hit a limb on a moving subject, in an a apartment complex, where a single missed shit can kill an innocent person is why center mass shots are ideal.
Between adrenaline, and anything else she was on she managed to take 3 shots before being effectively neutralized.
Particular-Zone7288@reddit
Humans pumped up on adrenaline are amazingly hard to kill, like terminator levels of just won't die.
"hurr just shoot him in the legs/shoulder" is a great idea until they just straight up refuse to go down.
VonChudstein88@reddit
Tendi_Loving_Care@reddit
She-iiiiiiiiit
banananon@reddit
was/were
Western_Ad_20@reddit
bro she's a tall cis woman, yall be grasping at straws just to be transphobic
VonChudstein88@reddit
You stumbled into the wrong sub little bro
LimpMinded@reddit
What did the idiot say?
Western_Ad_20@reddit
whatever, i'm right
_Jack_in_the_Box_@reddit
welcome
chiagioi123@reddit
keh\~
Soggy_Cheek_2653@reddit
Xhe.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Who? What video?
Ok_WaterStarBoy3@reddit
That pic is absurdly goofy it's like a brain rot video thumbnail
BigNellyC@reddit
Holy shit, I know the backstory to this. This was my aunt's supervisor. She had just been laid off, and the police were doing a welfare check. No one really knows why she came back out with a knife, but it might've been suicide by cop.
RenewThePatriotAct@reddit
Sure chuddy
Several-Chemistry-34@reddit
Sure buddy
Yellow_Shirted_Kid16@reddit
Bure shuddy
Jonmak4200@reddit
Sure buddy
ExpertCatJuggler@reddit
Sure buddy
PKP987@reddit
Sure buddy
HENTA1S3NPA1@reddit
Sure buddy
TechnicallydaTruth@reddit
Bazz haircut, RIP concord
MagicCitytx@reddit
she played bball at george town kek
realtimetimetraveler@reddit
Pronouns were he/she
StrikingBag4636@reddit
it , das s muss mit
AutoJannietator@reddit
xer/them/they, way too gay
hectic_scone@reddit
"well he/she-riously fucked up!" (insert image of Carlos from magic school bus)
Xartes_@reddit
They’re was/were now
beclops@reddit
*we/wuz
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
Here/lays
Deimos_Aeternum@reddit
It was a peaceful knifing attempt
PorkChopEat@reddit
Mostly peaceful.
Talic15@reddit
Die now or dilater
dyfsgdafh@reddit (OP)
holy kek
MonochromaticGuy@reddit
Didn't know Concord have very realistic graphics
spectral_visitor@reddit
Inb4 didn’t do nothing wrong
Gothiks@reddit
“Sydney loved children and was an inspirational speaker to young girls that were coached by her former teammates and aspired to play high school and college basketball,” her obituary says. “Sydney’s legacy of friendship, empathy and love will live on in the hearts of everyone who ever met her.”
CharlieKellyLawyer@reddit
"... everyone who ever met her"
The last person who met her got slashed in the face.
Phlummp@reddit
Probably not transexual, no other source confirming she was.
Rod_Munch666@reddit
I just looked at this linked stuff. 6'6" with an 8" cock. Got to be a t!r@a#n$n%y.
hadicalb@reddit
Xher 8 incher is so heckin' valid!
ReallyDumbRedditor@reddit
Is he the next George Floyd? Any local businesses in the area should seriously consider erecting barricades.
satisfuckery@reddit
I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is. I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping, she buys shit.
I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it, I want to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It ain't the coffee in my kitchen. It's the dead
the_m4nagement@reddit
[Go on...]
AverageLonelyLoser66@reddit
The last thing I see before the deathclaw rips me to shreds.
GhiaccioCaldo@reddit
Well, going slashing with a razor against an armed man who gave you enough warning is certainly a way to go
Confused_Crab_@reddit
That concord line