Sadly there is. The trucker culture celebrates it, which is why this dumb industry puts up with 60 hour workweeks with no overtime and then DEFENDS IT.
Until I came in this industry it was always "work smarter, not harder". Then I encountered the old timer/super trucker mentality. If you aren't doing shit the hardest way possible you are lazy, new breed blah blah blah.
"If you aren't shoving that landing gear handle in your ass and twerking it up or down you ain't a real trucker. Lube? Lube is for pussies new breed drivers. Grit your teeth and take it like a man."
It is at a few companies. Pepsi does 4 days per week with overtime after 40. Once you get your routes figured out 40-46 hours per week divided between 4 days is doable.
It's the only company I have ever found to at least sort of allow a work / life balance.
Yeah but shit talking people who complain about working 8 hours isn't a flex. I would LOVE to be in a position where I work 8 hours and get annoyed by how little time I feel like I have.
One day we're going to be pushing 60+ and have to ask ourselves where has the time gone. I'd rather say "tired complaining about 8 hours" vs pissing it all away in the cab of a truck.
If you have to work a job with decent health care benefits to support family and those are often in VHCOL areas with scarce, hyper-expensive housing driven by flippers and long-term hold investors, then it's often not so easy to just "move closer".
Regular working folks aren't winning in the housing market here in the Northeast.
I got a 45 minute haul back n forth, itās about the same with or without traffic but Iām always here a minimum 30 before I clock in so I guess you right
I was working 2 jobs and would be home only 4 hours (sleep or spend time with my family) did it for 1 years,left both jobs in hope to find a better paying one and help with time management lol I ended up worse and I was working 14hrs a day 5 days a week, thatās company closed and now on unemployment, I get to spend all time with my family that I was missing out on, we need a high paying job that respects work to life balance, my next trucking gig Iām looking for something local close to home with decent pay š¤š¼
Yup. A fill time job with no overtime. some people dont like giving up their lives to jobs. Some people actually care about their kids' mental well-being.The goal is to live to work, not work to live. Cucks in trucks dont understand this, tho, sadly.
Lol not all of yall. I used to be OTR about 8 years ago making I think 40cpm working for Millis hauling beer and paper rolls. Then i ran outlaw for this shitty company running team loads by my self. made a decent amount to stay above water. Now I work for the post office making $33-$34 per hour sitting in a yard playing videogames. Even if the money isn't AS good, it's close enough and I don't have to worry about getting stuck in the mountains or the truck breaking down halfway across the country....oh and also I'm home everyday, backed by a union and it's safer being on the yard vs being OTR....AND we get overtime and double pay for holidays.
Mmmmmm i think Iām f$&@ing up, lol. Like you work for usps or fedex, and itās local? Coming from flatbed do you think the work would be hard to adapt to? Also what does your days typically look like?
Iām sorry for the questions Iām just interested in going local when Iām done with my first year otr.
Nah I work for the post office. I've worked for companies that contract through the post office and if you're thinking about trying to get a local job go straight to the post office. It's better job security. And no, the job is way more simple than being over the road. It should be a breeze compared to what you're doing over the road. All this depends on the post office in your area though. Some post offices have actual routes that have you driving about 8 hours, or if you're a switcher, switching 60+ trailers a day. My job I probably get 20 trailers I have to switch and go up the street 20 minutes to deliver and pick up mail. The pay is a little under 1,000 a week after taxes. Not much but it's not bad for how chill the job is....all that being said, it's a government job. They do things way different than your regular trucking company. It took me a year to get the job, and you normally don't start out full time, it's a hassle, annoying, but I should have made the move sooner. I think UPS pays more though.
Both are exempt from log books, I used to run a lot harder but that extra run to Boston or half tanker of oil can wait til tomorrow. Or they can get another driverĀ
In the trades Iāve met so many guys whoāve worked their lives away. Theyāre on their 3rd failed marriage, have 5 kids that they never see or wonāt talk to them, and their whole personality is work. But theyāve got the boat and new ford raptor (before she gets them in the divorce).
That shit is like watching a waking nightmare to me.
I have a buddy that does the same thing at a fancy restaurant where all the politicians, rich university donors and pro/college sports stars and family go to, he told me at peak season he makes 25hundred no problem a week, not a bad gig I say but I can stand to the monotony.
I made $70,000 a year once working maybe five hours a day, five days a week, with a half hour commute. I worked as a server at a Michelin starred restaurant...and hated every day of my life.
I would rather drive a truck all day, live in the sleeper, eat out of a slow cooker, piss in a bottle and shower at a truck stop than ever go back to that. If I'm having a bad day driving a truck, I can frown. If I'm tired, I can yawn. And I don't have to be anyone's freaking servant.
And best of all, truckers don't have to deal with humans that often. Some of us genuinely are tired of humans and just want to be alone, with some music and an audiobook.
And some of us feel "time with the family" may as well be quality time getting a root canal.
So unless they bring back lighthouses that need keepers, or unless a herd of sheep on the mountains needs a shepherd or something, I'll take OTR.
i work around 13 hours a, driving for most of it. To me it doesn't feel like work, because I love to drive. the non-driving parts is what I dislike the most, and that's maybe 3 hours total...
I usually run about 50-60 hours per week and it's pretty chill. I go out 2 days (Monday/Tuesday) return to the terminal, take Wednesday off and then go out Thursday/Friday. I usually ask for a load every other weekend.
Tbh, I feel like I barely work at all unless The Bullshit happens when I'm out... I think I just really like my job for some reason lol. But, life is wayyy more balanced like this than it ever was on any 40hr, full time schedule I've had.
You two are a real treat. Acting like people who don't want to work themselves to death are somehow inferior to you?
And the video game line? How old are you because this screams 50+
People want to see their loved ones. Family and friends. People want to partake in hobbies both indoor and outdoor. People want to play with their children.
You do away with errands because you donāt own anything but a bed, no groceries for cooking itās all gas station food because all of the fine dinning drive throughs are closed. You can sleep when you dead. Which wonāt be long with this diet. 18+ hours a day just to try to make to a ā lower middle classā lifestyle. FML š¤¦
Never really got why people are so gay for work life balance. I have hobbies, way more toys than most and don't miss out on any important social events with a half otr half local job. When in home I usually work 120-150 hours a fortnight.
It's great for dodging shit you don't want to do socially.
I got off the highway and started making deliveries in a box truck for a small local company (8 hour shifts) I earn less but I also spend less, and with a couple sacrifices like having a used car, and eating out less, my quality of life hasnāt changed. Now I eat with my family every evening, walk to the park with my kids and their friends, come home, watch a show as a family, tuck the kids in at night, and go to bed with my wife.
That sounds really nice, man. I'm working 55ish hours a week and nights. I lay down for bed and get half an hour in bed with the wife, and then her alarm goes off. I see my kids for about an hour after school and before work. I keep thinking I'm burnt out on trucking, but it's probably just night shift.
Work 12 hours plus half hour there and half hour back=13 plus 8 hours sleep=21, hour and a half excersise=22.5. 20 minutes to shower after workout another 20 minutes to shower after work, 20minutes to get dressed and pack a lunch. Leaves me 30 minutes "in case shit". 6 days a week. One day off is for housework, groceries, cooking food for the next week and catching up on sleep. Been doing this for over 10 years. Trucking is a lifestyle. It's not for everyone.
As someone who went from driving 10-12 hours a day to working 8-5 in a static spot yall have absolutely no room to make fun of this guy. Driving is great. My job now is hell. Yāall donāt know how good youāve got it.
I started running Linehaul full time for a year and half now! Working 8 hours is an absolute treat to me at this point. Shit back when I was hostler/combo driver 8 hours was too long lol. When new guys come aboard and theyāre complaining about not getting many miles/hours on a certain day I tell them to just enjoy it cause you never know when the next easy day will come! Now 10 hours is minimum 11-12 is the usual. If I only do 8 I feel like I have so much time now so reading that post was crazy lmao I would love 4 hours to myself!
I work grave yard 5x12 hour shifts. Meal prep for the week on weekends and do what I need to do then. Workout before I go to work daily. Probably the only fit driver at my job. Whatās this dude complaining aboutā¦
justaguynumber35765@reddit
Wah.....
Try sustenance farming off the grid sometimes
kingxanadu@reddit
There's no medal given for working yourself to death.
GiantEnemaCrab@reddit
Sadly there is. The trucker culture celebrates it, which is why this dumb industry puts up with 60 hour workweeks with no overtime and then DEFENDS IT.
RedlineM5@reddit
"Real drivers don't do this for money, they do it for the lifestyle. If you're out here to make money you're doing it wrong." - Some super trucker
SgtGlamHammer@reddit
Trucking culture since the fall of the teamsters is toxic af
RedlineM5@reddit
Until I came in this industry it was always "work smarter, not harder". Then I encountered the old timer/super trucker mentality. If you aren't doing shit the hardest way possible you are lazy, new breed blah blah blah.
"If you aren't shoving that landing gear handle in your ass and twerking it up or down you ain't a real trucker. Lube? Lube is for pussies new breed drivers. Grit your teeth and take it like a man."
Cheekoteh@reddit
14 hour days on the road for 4 weeks at a time, no weekends, missing holidaysā¦
Particular_Minute_67@reddit
4 days a week need to be a thing.
GiantEnemaCrab@reddit
It is at a few companies. Pepsi does 4 days per week with overtime after 40. Once you get your routes figured out 40-46 hours per week divided between 4 days is doable.
It's the only company I have ever found to at least sort of allow a work / life balance.
Particular_Minute_67@reddit
I went to them at a job fair in July for the warehouse position but they never called me.
Boogary@reddit
8hrs a day and he's complaining?
paradox-eater@reddit
Youāre being exploited and you will never get back what they took from you.
Boogary@reddit
Trust me when i say im not advocating for long hours, just saying most people don't have the luxury of 8hrs
GiantEnemaCrab@reddit
Yeah but shit talking people who complain about working 8 hours isn't a flex. I would LOVE to be in a position where I work 8 hours and get annoyed by how little time I feel like I have.
One day we're going to be pushing 60+ and have to ask ourselves where has the time gone. I'd rather say "tired complaining about 8 hours" vs pissing it all away in the cab of a truck.
sonofnoob@reddit
Imagine only working eight hours a day five days a week having two days off on a weekendā¦.
M_i_L_0_@reddit
All work is valid, and we chose this career, one way or another. Kinda did it to ourselves hahahahaha
619-548-4940@reddit
Accountability š«”
toastyhoodie@reddit
I mean. Iām kinda like that, I avg 9 a day, but add my commute itās 12 easy.
Specific_Effort_5528@reddit
In the winters I'm 10-13 hours myself with a 80km round trip there and back.
Thankfully I enjoy my job
tralphaz43@reddit
Move closer
Allemaengel@reddit
If you have to work a job with decent health care benefits to support family and those are often in VHCOL areas with scarce, hyper-expensive housing driven by flippers and long-term hold investors, then it's often not so easy to just "move closer".
Regular working folks aren't winning in the housing market here in the Northeast.
MasterpieceAmazing87@reddit
You drive an hour and a half to work every day?
Allemaengel@reddit
My commute is about 1.15 each way.
toastyhoodie@reddit
With traffic, yeah. It blows. No traffic is like 40 mins
MasterpieceAmazing87@reddit
I got a 45 minute haul back n forth, itās about the same with or without traffic but Iām always here a minimum 30 before I clock in so I guess you right
toastyhoodie@reddit
Yeah. I consider my average day a 5-9 instead of a 9-5
Rudyscrazy1@reddit
Like with a real job and a company that respects you and doesn't use you like a number.
sergioa1990@reddit
I was working 2 jobs and would be home only 4 hours (sleep or spend time with my family) did it for 1 years,left both jobs in hope to find a better paying one and help with time management lol I ended up worse and I was working 14hrs a day 5 days a week, thatās company closed and now on unemployment, I get to spend all time with my family that I was missing out on, we need a high paying job that respects work to life balance, my next trucking gig Iām looking for something local close to home with decent pay š¤š¼
Rudyscrazy1@reddit
Yup. A fill time job with no overtime. some people dont like giving up their lives to jobs. Some people actually care about their kids' mental well-being.The goal is to live to work, not work to live. Cucks in trucks dont understand this, tho, sadly.
beerbro78@reddit
And here my ass is sitting in the oilfield clocking 16ās on locationā¦.i make bad choices.
Valac_@reddit
Body's tired wallets fat
GiantEnemaCrab@reddit
Not nearly fat enough for the amount of time and energy required for this shit.
d1duck2020@reddit
Youāre not alone!
InvestigatorBroad114@reddit
12-13 hrs a day. 11 hours in the seat. Trucking is a lifestyle not a career
Aggravating-Ad-6651@reddit
I did 19 one day cuz I had to wait in line at a shipper and shut my into sleeper birth
unftp-0@reddit
Man I wish I worked only 8 hours. You get plenty of time to do what you want!
KickinAssHaulinGrass@reddit
I work 8 hour days because any more than that is over time.
So an hour commute, 8 hrs work, an hour to cook and clean up. The other 14 hours are mineĀ
You otr guys are suckers.Ā
Glittering_Big_8104@reddit
Yea, but suckers with a fat wallet.
KickinAssHaulinGrass@reddit
I get $1200 a week for working 5x8. $1700 if I do 5x10
It would take a whole lot more to give up a warm bed a hot dinner and seeing my family.Ā
But you gotta make hay while the sun shines, go get itĀ
king_rootin_tootin@reddit
For some of us, time with our families may as well be time in Hell.
KickinAssHaulinGrass@reddit
Should have stuck around and raised your kids, I guess.Ā
king_rootin_tootin@reddit
I have no kids (that I know off) Just annoying parents and siblings
KickinAssHaulinGrass@reddit
So grow up
I don't care about your woe is me storyĀ
M4S73RBLASTER@reddit
Lol not all of yall. I used to be OTR about 8 years ago making I think 40cpm working for Millis hauling beer and paper rolls. Then i ran outlaw for this shitty company running team loads by my self. made a decent amount to stay above water. Now I work for the post office making $33-$34 per hour sitting in a yard playing videogames. Even if the money isn't AS good, it's close enough and I don't have to worry about getting stuck in the mountains or the truck breaking down halfway across the country....oh and also I'm home everyday, backed by a union and it's safer being on the yard vs being OTR....AND we get overtime and double pay for holidays.
MadMysticMeister@reddit
Mmmmmm i think Iām f$&@ing up, lol. Like you work for usps or fedex, and itās local? Coming from flatbed do you think the work would be hard to adapt to? Also what does your days typically look like?
Iām sorry for the questions Iām just interested in going local when Iām done with my first year otr.
M4S73RBLASTER@reddit
Nah I work for the post office. I've worked for companies that contract through the post office and if you're thinking about trying to get a local job go straight to the post office. It's better job security. And no, the job is way more simple than being over the road. It should be a breeze compared to what you're doing over the road. All this depends on the post office in your area though. Some post offices have actual routes that have you driving about 8 hours, or if you're a switcher, switching 60+ trailers a day. My job I probably get 20 trailers I have to switch and go up the street 20 minutes to deliver and pick up mail. The pay is a little under 1,000 a week after taxes. Not much but it's not bad for how chill the job is....all that being said, it's a government job. They do things way different than your regular trucking company. It took me a year to get the job, and you normally don't start out full time, it's a hassle, annoying, but I should have made the move sooner. I think UPS pays more though.
Glittering_Big_8104@reddit
Fair play
84NotSure@reddit
LoL right
-Clem@reddit
I work local but it's still 10-12 hour shifts, averaging around 11. What do you do that's 8 hours?
KickinAssHaulinGrass@reddit
Fuel oil and sod from the turf farm.
Both are exempt from log books, I used to run a lot harder but that extra run to Boston or half tanker of oil can wait til tomorrow. Or they can get another driverĀ
Spitfire954@reddit
Hell yeah. Seriously, way to go.
In the trades Iāve met so many guys whoāve worked their lives away. Theyāre on their 3rd failed marriage, have 5 kids that they never see or wonāt talk to them, and their whole personality is work. But theyāve got the boat and new ford raptor (before she gets them in the divorce).
That shit is like watching a waking nightmare to me.
Montreal4life@reddit
yeah same sometimes I do 14 hours thank the Lord allmighty I live five minutes from work
Rudyscrazy1@reddit
Fr dude, im pretty sure OTR is just a bunch of masochistic people that secretly love getting fucked.
Hungry-Lemon8008@reddit (OP)
What you talking bout willis - š
TheRoadWarrior28@reddit
Wage slavery.
heydave23@reddit
Welcome to life
Hungry-Lemon8008@reddit (OP)
I have a buddy that does the same thing at a fancy restaurant where all the politicians, rich university donors and pro/college sports stars and family go to, he told me at peak season he makes 25hundred no problem a week, not a bad gig I say but I can stand to the monotony.
king_rootin_tootin@reddit
I made $70,000 a year once working maybe five hours a day, five days a week, with a half hour commute. I worked as a server at a Michelin starred restaurant...and hated every day of my life.
I would rather drive a truck all day, live in the sleeper, eat out of a slow cooker, piss in a bottle and shower at a truck stop than ever go back to that. If I'm having a bad day driving a truck, I can frown. If I'm tired, I can yawn. And I don't have to be anyone's freaking servant.
And best of all, truckers don't have to deal with humans that often. Some of us genuinely are tired of humans and just want to be alone, with some music and an audiobook.
And some of us feel "time with the family" may as well be quality time getting a root canal.
So unless they bring back lighthouses that need keepers, or unless a herd of sheep on the mountains needs a shepherd or something, I'll take OTR.
ryanpayne442@reddit
Lmfao you get 4 hours of "me time"?? Lucky bitch
Unfair_Fisherman_605@reddit
I work 12 hour shifts 5pm to 5am 5 days a week.
derekschroer@reddit
i work around 13 hours a, driving for most of it. To me it doesn't feel like work, because I love to drive. the non-driving parts is what I dislike the most, and that's maybe 3 hours total...
CultBro@reddit
People only work 8 hours? I haven't done that since I was part time lol
Ckmccfl@reddit
Not a flex my guy
CultBro@reddit
It's worked out pretty well for me. Went from a route driver to running transportation to now running all warehouse operations
FaceWithAName@reddit
So many dudes in here trying to brag about working all day every day lol
Hungry-Lemon8008@reddit (OP)
Working all day is acceptable as long as you are being properly compensated. IMO
FaceWithAName@reddit
Yea I hear that. If the money is good and you are happy as well as your loved ones, it's great. Won't argue with that.
AnnieGS@reddit
I usually run about 50-60 hours per week and it's pretty chill. I go out 2 days (Monday/Tuesday) return to the terminal, take Wednesday off and then go out Thursday/Friday. I usually ask for a load every other weekend.
Tbh, I feel like I barely work at all unless The Bullshit happens when I'm out... I think I just really like my job for some reason lol. But, life is wayyy more balanced like this than it ever was on any 40hr, full time schedule I've had.
neatlair@reddit
Posts from folks with a 40 hour week and no kids are just so out of touch.
Ckmccfl@reddit
And I will gladly stay out of touch
JohnBender84@reddit
"you mean I ONLY get 4 HOURS a day for video games!?!?"
FaceWithAName@reddit
You two are a real treat. Acting like people who don't want to work themselves to death are somehow inferior to you?
And the video game line? How old are you because this screams 50+
People want to see their loved ones. Family and friends. People want to partake in hobbies both indoor and outdoor. People want to play with their children.
Get real my man
Far_Peach2213@reddit
Iām lucky to get home in time to sleep enough for the next day
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
I remember my first part time job....
mwonch@reddit
Donāt have kids then. Itās 24/7 on top of the job.
karrimycele@reddit
Damn, what a life. I get ten hours, eight of which I have to use for sleeping. Workday is 14 hours. Oh, and I sleep in a truck.
CartographerWest2705@reddit
You do away with errands because you donāt own anything but a bed, no groceries for cooking itās all gas station food because all of the fine dinning drive throughs are closed. You can sleep when you dead. Which wonāt be long with this diet. 18+ hours a day just to try to make to a ā lower middle classā lifestyle. FML š¤¦
mike-2129@reddit
Wouldn't that be with any job. Work 8 to 10 hours. Sleep then up to run errands. People really be asking for 12 hours of sleep.
MostOriginalNameEver@reddit
Wait till he learns about folks pulling 12s
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Frenchie1001@reddit
Never really got why people are so gay for work life balance. I have hobbies, way more toys than most and don't miss out on any important social events with a half otr half local job. When in home I usually work 120-150 hours a fortnight.
It's great for dodging shit you don't want to do socially.
joeyggg@reddit
I got off the highway and started making deliveries in a box truck for a small local company (8 hour shifts) I earn less but I also spend less, and with a couple sacrifices like having a used car, and eating out less, my quality of life hasnāt changed. Now I eat with my family every evening, walk to the park with my kids and their friends, come home, watch a show as a family, tuck the kids in at night, and go to bed with my wife.
SneakyNative@reddit
That sounds really nice, man. I'm working 55ish hours a week and nights. I lay down for bed and get half an hour in bed with the wife, and then her alarm goes off. I see my kids for about an hour after school and before work. I keep thinking I'm burnt out on trucking, but it's probably just night shift.
kid_cadillac@reddit
Work 12 hours plus half hour there and half hour back=13 plus 8 hours sleep=21, hour and a half excersise=22.5. 20 minutes to shower after workout another 20 minutes to shower after work, 20minutes to get dressed and pack a lunch. Leaves me 30 minutes "in case shit". 6 days a week. One day off is for housework, groceries, cooking food for the next week and catching up on sleep. Been doing this for over 10 years. Trucking is a lifestyle. It's not for everyone.
sergioa1990@reddit
I see that 1.5 hours of self care in there š«”
84NotSure@reddit
Trucking takes your life
meizhong@reddit
If it weren't for idiots causing traffic, I could do my job (going the speed limit) in around 9 hours a day.
But my average is between 10 and 11.
I figure I loose 39 minutes to an hour every day just because people won't use the right lane.
Savagemocha@reddit
No not really. I work as a semi driver. But even before that I worked 10-12 hour jobs lmao. Done so my whole life. Maybe yall are just entitled
ohhrangejuice@reddit
Some dudes will bitch about anything.
AhabRasputin@reddit
As someone who went from driving 10-12 hours a day to working 8-5 in a static spot yall have absolutely no room to make fun of this guy. Driving is great. My job now is hell. Yāall donāt know how good youāve got it.
smile_u-r_alive@reddit
Who only works 8hrs?
tralphaz43@reddit
Nobody tell him about lunch they don't pay you for so it's 8.5 or 9
weaponized_autism265@reddit
He should come haul cattle with me if he wants to complain about his work schedule lol.
gregshafer11@reddit
8hr shift sounds like a management position
IIxNullxII@reddit
I would give up my left walnut to work 8s
Adamja123@reddit
I started running Linehaul full time for a year and half now! Working 8 hours is an absolute treat to me at this point. Shit back when I was hostler/combo driver 8 hours was too long lol. When new guys come aboard and theyāre complaining about not getting many miles/hours on a certain day I tell them to just enjoy it cause you never know when the next easy day will come! Now 10 hours is minimum 11-12 is the usual. If I only do 8 I feel like I have so much time now so reading that post was crazy lmao I would love 4 hours to myself!
wukillabee2744@reddit
I'm on a dedicated acct with Walmart. I work 5 off 2 but they want you to run your clock. So I usually work 11-12hr for those 5.
sonofrockandroll@reddit
How is the pay with Walmart?
wukillabee2744@reddit
I work for a mega, pay is 1400/wk guaranteed, regardless of how many miles I run. Average miles, probably 2000ish..
AyyYoCO@reddit
Try doing 16's. Lol
DonMarce@reddit
Facts
Natural_Selection905@reddit
I'm lucky if I get half an hour to myself once we get far sway from home.
But guess it evens out on the rain days.
Montreal4life@reddit
I remember my first part time job too
Kirby5283@reddit
I do 14 hour days... 15 min commute... And have toddler... You get used to it
Slosky22@reddit
I laughed because 40 hours is part-time for us
84NotSure@reddit
And you still donāt get paid OT
Slosky22@reddit
Yep, thatās the bullshit
Cold_Neighborhood740@reddit
I work grave yard 5x12 hour shifts. Meal prep for the week on weekends and do what I need to do then. Workout before I go to work daily. Probably the only fit driver at my job. Whatās this dude complaining aboutā¦
BL24L@reddit
Working f'ing sucks
Castros0815@reddit
Absolutely
asleepatthewheel72@reddit
8 hrs a day for me is a part time job.
Playful-Excuse-272@reddit
Heās not factoring that sleep occurs from one day to the next.