Remember when this film came out and EVERYBODY laughed? The only people who complained were… not even visible to the baked eye. I’m sure it had it’s detractors but I barely remember them.
He “got away” with it because it was a well written comedy.
I’m reminded of the greentext about how genuinely multicultural and diverse 90’s Hollywood was. This film seemed to be a successor for that film era.
I think IASIP has gotten away with it too. Just because the episodes were pulled by a soulless streaming services, it doesn't mean general opinion agrees with that
Because it's dumb, and so people can watch those episodes. The decision to remove them was one nobody asked for, yet on the other hand people have countlessly expressed they want them back.
They get away with it the same way they get away with all of the other heinous shit they do. The characters are awful people, and the shit they do obviously makes them terrible and the butt of the joke
Got a shitload of racist and sexist jokes? Just dress up as Donald Trump and you've got your opening skit for SNL.
There's always a free pass to use your most racist jokes when you put them in the mouth of someone you don't like. And for an added bonus, they get to make their opponents look like assholes while they are the ones who came up with the racism to begin with.
That and the version of blackface isn't the typical one that is associated with 70s or whatever racism. His makeup was just brown makeup, not shoe polish and giant red makeup lips. Even his fake voice wasn't one that is a stereotype since it sounded like a normal person.
Cruise was hilarious in that movie lol
"YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL THE FUCKING UNITED NATIONS AND GET A FUCKING BINDING RESOLUTION TO KEEP ME FROM FUCKING DESTROYING YOU!"
He got away with it because of the same reason It's always sunny gets away with it. The purpose of the black face isn't to mock the race, but to mock the character that is wearing the black face.
If people get mad at the character; it means they ignored the every line spoken by the actual african american gentleman, played by Brandon Jackson, all through the entire movie
Why is every major actor Jewish? Like every funny movie star from the early 2000s is Jewish. Jack black, Ben Stiller, Seth Rogan, James Franco, Adam Sandler, Steve Carel, Will Ferrel, and probably a lot more but these are the top of my head.
I just don't see why it matters. All US presidents except one have been Christian. This is because for most of US history most Americans were Christian, and they were discriminatory against people who weren't. All of them but one were white. None of them except for two were catholic.
You can probably find stuff like this for any job or role. It probably comes down to a ton of factors like culture, racism, whatever.
There are 7.5 million Jews in the USA. They punch above their weight when it comes to being successful and Hollywood is no different.
Probably something to do with literal milennia of being hunted and exterminated. I imagine that would give you a strong desire to do well for yourself so you have the resources to defend yourself as needed.
Remember, in the earlier 1900s they were treated as poorly as black people (which was pretty fucking bad.) No cops would help you. So you stick to your own community and do everything you can to make sure you're self-sufficient.
No different to the Italians or Irish of that time. You can also look at Vietnamese immigrants, etc for further examples.
Tell that to president Wilson who passed the federal reserve giving all power to the “Bankers” while all the real Christians were celebrating Christmas with their families.
Comedy (and weirdly enough basketball to some extent) is the Jewish sport. The entertainment industry is just the natural progression of a kid who took drama & business classes.
It's actually even more than you would imagine and not just early 2000s but even further back
Daniel day Lewis
The stars of the new joker movie.
Both main actors from the original star trek series.
Jake glynall
Harrison ford
Daniel Radcliffe
Natalie portman
Scarlett Johannsen
Mila kunis
Adrian brody
Dustin Hoffman
Jeff goldblum
Katie Hudson
Sarah Michelle geller
Andrew garfield
Lisa kudrow
Zach braff
Jesse eisenberg
Paul Newman
John faverou
Sean Penn
Timothy charlamet
Behind the scenes
Spielberg
Weinsteins
Jj abrams
Polanski
Some musicians
Gene Simmons
Lenny kravitz
Pink
Billy Joel
Drake
Beastie boys
Adam leavine
Art garfunkle
Bette Midler
Carly Simon
Randy Newman
Paula Abdul
Kiss
I once had to do a school report on diversity and representation in cinema and part of it was reproducing the imdb top 100 without some demographics to show how much diverse the film industry is.
Our groups imdb top 100 was completely unrecognisable to the point that the teacher didn't believe us until they had checked it themselves.
I posted it on reddit on few subs as I thought it was pretty interesting but got banned for it.
I always thought it was because he was still playing Kirk Lazarus, a white person. Kirk could be critizied for doing blackface but much like we wouldnt accused Dicaprio of being racist for his character saying the N word in Dejango, we can't legitimately accuse RDJ either.
Few people know about RDJ's father, Robert Downey Sr. He made several bizarre movies, probably the best of which was "Greaser's Palace" (1972). The first time you see it, most people think it's crap. But you can't forget it. The second time you see it, the light dawns and you start making connections out of its complexity. The third time you see it, you get the genius that went into its creation.
Yeah. I know a lot of ppl that were in this situation. Is okey. You can convert even if you were not born of any Jewish person. But something strange that happens a lot and I have seen multiple times in my personal experience. A lot of ppl that have no Jewish background or family but they become Jewish later because of faith or because they Mattie a Jewish person later they found out they do have Jewish ancestors. Is weird but is one of the reason I believe in god
In modern Rabbinic Judaism, the traditional method of determining Jewishness relies on tracing one's maternal line. According to halakha, the recognition of someone as fully Jewish requires them to have been born to a Jewish mother.[1] A person who is born to a non-Jewish mother and a Jewish father is regarded as Zera Yisrael (lit. 'Seed of Israel') and will only be accepted as ethnically Jewish and not as religiously Jewish. Thus, being Jewish through the paternal line typically necessitates conversion to Judaism to validate one's identity as a Jew in the fullest sense.
Wikipedia is not reliable. And yeah he is of Jewish descent. Noting more. Even if he sometimes uses a necklace or something is like a USA person whose parents are Mexican and now starts to claim he is as well. No he is of Hispanic descent
Also all the characters in the movie thought he was insane for doing the black face thing, too. You can always write one character in doing taboo shit if other characters also recognize its taboo
As a filthy millenial this movie really is wine- it only gets funnier, and somehow more prescient for its time, everytime I watch it. The way it really captured the stupidity of celebrities and their culture, and the media landscape writ large, was not at all obvious to me as a teen as it is now.
Funny story: when I was 12, my parents rented this movie from the video store and were watching it after me and my brother went to sleep, so I bear crawled down the hallway to hide next to a couch where my parents couldn’t see me and watch the movie.
However, my dad caught me when he got up to go to the bathroom, and they were pretty mad at me. I told them “in 10 years we’ll all be laughing about this.” Now, it’s one of our favorite movies and they admit I was totally correct.
teleologicalrizz@reddit
Les Grossman bros, our resonse?
Robber_Baron44@reddit (OP)
I WILL FUCK YOU UP THROUGH TELEPHONE POLE
Far_Presentation_246@reddit
Rdj wasn't doing blackface
He was the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude
Necessary-Weekend194@reddit
Remember when this film came out and EVERYBODY laughed? The only people who complained were… not even visible to the baked eye. I’m sure it had it’s detractors but I barely remember them.
He “got away” with it because it was a well written comedy.
I’m reminded of the greentext about how genuinely multicultural and diverse 90’s Hollywood was. This film seemed to be a successor for that film era.
We’ll never have a movie like this again.
Ungface@reddit
He got away with it because he was portraying an actor acting in blackface in an over the top comedy. he wasnt portraying a black person
dobbelj@reddit
Why are people missing this nuance? He's not playing a black guy. He's playing a dude, disguised as another dude.
Sheep03@reddit
Probably because things like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia have had episodes pulled for the same reason.
tfsra@reddit
I think IASIP has gotten away with it too. Just because the episodes were pulled by a soulless streaming services, it doesn't mean general opinion agrees with that
Sheep03@reddit
True, but they have as yet refused to put them back despite that
tfsra@reddit
ofc not, why'd they do that?
Sheep03@reddit
Because it's dumb, and so people can watch those episodes. The decision to remove them was one nobody asked for, yet on the other hand people have countlessly expressed they want them back.
tfsra@reddit
there's nothing to gain for them by doing so, only to lose
Ne0n1691Senpai@reddit
that show is peak redditor humor, boring as fuck and meant for the intellectually™️ superior people.
cyanight7@reddit
Yeah I’m sure your humor is so totally evolved past le epic Redditors, senpai
Ne0n1691Senpai@reddit
my humor is bean humor, unless you know spanish you wouldnt understand it, m'lady
GigaPuddi@reddit
The Always Sunny episode I'm thinking of didn't really need it for any of the humor and if I'm correct it was much more obvious blackface.
I don't think they should have pulled the episode, but it was tacky.
HelpRespawnedAsDee@reddit
which episode was this? having a hard time remembering it
GigaPuddi@reddit
I think the one where they make Lethal Weapon 5.
HelpRespawnedAsDee@reddit
oh shit lol hahah. did they seriously remove that episode? It's essentially the same joke as Tropic Thunder.
Maedroas@reddit
They get away with it the same way they get away with all of the other heinous shit they do. The characters are awful people, and the shit they do obviously makes them terrible and the butt of the joke
Past-Product-1100@reddit
What do you mean YOU people.
ccznen@reddit
Because they're stupid
BarrelStrawberry@reddit
Got a shitload of racist and sexist jokes? Just dress up as Donald Trump and you've got your opening skit for SNL.
There's always a free pass to use your most racist jokes when you put them in the mouth of someone you don't like. And for an added bonus, they get to make their opponents look like assholes while they are the ones who came up with the racism to begin with.
RolfIsSonOfShepnard@reddit
That and the version of blackface isn't the typical one that is associated with 70s or whatever racism. His makeup was just brown makeup, not shoe polish and giant red makeup lips. Even his fake voice wasn't one that is a stereotype since it sounded like a normal person.
yyrkoon1776@reddit
Yes and HE was the butt of the joke!
A_Dragon@reddit
Yeah I don’t understand why this is so difficult to comprehend. It wasn’t condoned in the movie, people were actively preaching against it.
0mica0@reddit
I don't see black or white or whatever. All I was able to see was
just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
CallMeZaid69@reddit
Anyone got link to that greentext?
Necessary-Weekend194@reddit
Been looking for it for a while myself as I’m desperate to send it to some people
ApXv@reddit
I didn't think about it at all when it came out. It was just a hilarious movie. It's also relatively recent that I learned tom cruise is in it.
ZootAllures9111@reddit
Cruise was hilarious in that movie lol "YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL THE FUCKING UNITED NATIONS AND GET A FUCKING BINDING RESOLUTION TO KEEP ME FROM FUCKING DESTROYING YOU!"
telltelltell@reddit
Man was put on this earth to play bad guys and nothing but bad guys and nothing will change my mind.
Necessary-Weekend194@reddit
ok nice
BraveSquirrel@reddit
He got away with it because of the same reason It's always sunny gets away with it. The purpose of the black face isn't to mock the race, but to mock the character that is wearing the black face.
Necessary-Weekend194@reddit
Unfortunately nuance is lost in modern cinema.
If people get mad at the character; it means they ignored the every line spoken by the actual african american gentleman, played by Brandon Jackson, all through the entire movie
jam3sdub@reddit
You gotta make the lips funny!
HRApprovedUsername@reddit
That’s definitely not true that everybody laughed. I distinctly remember people complaining about the excessive use of the r-word.
ZootAllures9111@reddit
Yeah, I remember that being controversial, but not the blackface thing
Phendrana-Drifter@reddit
"Remember when this film came out and EVERYBODY laughed? The only people who complained were… not even visible to the naked eye."
To be fair it's dark in the cinema
Sniper_231996@reddit
I wish I didn't knew he was Jewish. I like his acting and movies though.
Internal_Trust9066@reddit
Same. Now I see him in a different light.
Imaginary_Branch_876@reddit
Jewish people are just white?
Why don't you attach those retarded stereotypes like being money hungry to Italians or Germans
Imaginary_Branch_876@reddit
Can you all stop pretending that jews and regular white people are not the same?
You don't attach weird stereotypes to Germans or Italians or any other flavor of white so why jews?
dikmite@reddit
Can someone tell me why it was funny?
Minimum_Will_1916@reddit
Dawg mosh people don't know he's Jewish that's not the reason he got away with it
NES_SAM@reddit
His fucking ethnicity has nothing to do with any of this.
Gloombad@reddit
Why is every major actor Jewish? Like every funny movie star from the early 2000s is Jewish. Jack black, Ben Stiller, Seth Rogan, James Franco, Adam Sandler, Steve Carel, Will Ferrel, and probably a lot more but these are the top of my head.
Arham-DABilal_@reddit
Andy Samberg
MUSTARD_CRACK@reddit
Carell, Ferrell and MacFarlane are not jews. The top of your head is lying to you
A hell of a lot more, just not those 3.
Gloombad@reddit
Damn I swear google used to say Seth was Jewish but guess not. He always kept bragging about getting off the plane right before 9/11.
11711510111411009710@reddit
Do you regularly Google which actors are Jewish?
DIAL8_TRAINEE@reddit
What I'm telling you is that you won't even need to use the early life section
11711510111411009710@reddit
I just don't see why it matters. All US presidents except one have been Christian. This is because for most of US history most Americans were Christian, and they were discriminatory against people who weren't. All of them but one were white. None of them except for two were catholic.
You can probably find stuff like this for any job or role. It probably comes down to a ton of factors like culture, racism, whatever.
SkirtOne8519@reddit
The word you’re looking for is Protestant, not Christian. Catholics are Christian too
Dammit_Meg@reddit
There are 7.5 million Jews in the USA. They punch above their weight when it comes to being successful and Hollywood is no different.
Probably something to do with literal milennia of being hunted and exterminated. I imagine that would give you a strong desire to do well for yourself so you have the resources to defend yourself as needed.
Remember, in the earlier 1900s they were treated as poorly as black people (which was pretty fucking bad.) No cops would help you. So you stick to your own community and do everything you can to make sure you're self-sufficient.
No different to the Italians or Irish of that time. You can also look at Vietnamese immigrants, etc for further examples.
Gloombad@reddit
Tell that to president Wilson who passed the federal reserve giving all power to the “Bankers” while all the real Christians were celebrating Christmas with their families.
Naughty_Aunt_Jemima@reddit
I do, but that's because I'm racist.
11711510111411009710@reddit
Understandable, carry on
jam3sdub@reddit
Most of the people you listed are funny (not Seth Rogan)
tfsra@reddit
well, comedy seems to be a huge deal in Jewish culture in general, so make sense there is some overrepresentation of Jewish people in comedy
Duckman896@reddit
Comedy (and weirdly enough basketball to some extent) is the Jewish sport. The entertainment industry is just the natural progression of a kid who took drama & business classes.
Communalbuttplug@reddit
It's actually even more than you would imagine and not just early 2000s but even further back
Daniel day Lewis The stars of the new joker movie. Both main actors from the original star trek series. Jake glynall Harrison ford Daniel Radcliffe Natalie portman Scarlett Johannsen Mila kunis Adrian brody Dustin Hoffman Jeff goldblum Katie Hudson Sarah Michelle geller Andrew garfield Lisa kudrow Zach braff Jesse eisenberg Paul Newman John faverou Sean Penn Timothy charlamet
Behind the scenes
Spielberg Weinsteins Jj abrams Polanski
Some musicians
Gene Simmons Lenny kravitz Pink Billy Joel Drake Beastie boys Adam leavine Art garfunkle Bette Midler Carly Simon Randy Newman Paula Abdul Kiss
I once had to do a school report on diversity and representation in cinema and part of it was reproducing the imdb top 100 without some demographics to show how much diverse the film industry is.
Our groups imdb top 100 was completely unrecognisable to the point that the teacher didn't believe us until they had checked it themselves.
I posted it on reddit on few subs as I thought it was pretty interesting but got banned for it.
AutisticHormoneDwarf@reddit
A happy blackface merchant
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guns4thehomeless@reddit
I always thought it was because he was still playing Kirk Lazarus, a white person. Kirk could be critizied for doing blackface but much like we wouldnt accused Dicaprio of being racist for his character saying the N word in Dejango, we can't legitimately accuse RDJ either.
jam3sdub@reddit
Nah they blamed the Tarantino for that one.
WendyLRogers3@reddit
Few people know about RDJ's father, Robert Downey Sr. He made several bizarre movies, probably the best of which was "Greaser's Palace" (1972). The first time you see it, most people think it's crap. But you can't forget it. The second time you see it, the light dawns and you start making connections out of its complexity. The third time you see it, you get the genius that went into its creation.
crying_fox@reddit
I didn't know RDJ before that movie and I actually believed it was a black man.
Ahueh@reddit
How does he get away with having the middle name DOWNY in this day and age 🤣
itamer76@reddit
He is not Jewish.
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
Not what his early life section says
itamer76@reddit
It says his dad was Jewish. He is not his mother is Swiss
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
Next you're going to tell me Harris isn't black because her mom's indian smh rn
itamer76@reddit
Idk who that is but to be Jewish you need a mother that is Jewish. So yeah he is not Jewish.
lunacraz@reddit
you can... still convert...?
itamer76@reddit
Yeah. I know a lot of ppl that were in this situation. Is okey. You can convert even if you were not born of any Jewish person. But something strange that happens a lot and I have seen multiple times in my personal experience. A lot of ppl that have no Jewish background or family but they become Jewish later because of faith or because they Mattie a Jewish person later they found out they do have Jewish ancestors. Is weird but is one of the reason I believe in god
MentalRadish3490@reddit
Can you find mine I want a retroactive bar mitzvah
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
Yeah he is
https://www.kveller.com/why-is-robert-downey-jr-wearing-a-chai-necklace/
Zephyrus707@reddit
The other dude is right, it's a matrilineal tradition
itamer76@reddit
His mother is not Jewish. End of the story he is not a Jew. You can claim he is of “Jewish” decent at most
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
No need to get mad.
itamer76@reddit
Not mad. You are just factually wrong.
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
You are, but I'm not.
proterraria@reddit
No you are wrong in Judaism the mother has to be Jewish for the son to be a Jew unless he converted later in his life which he didn’t
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
Whoa another buddy joined the train to wrong town. Population you and that other guy.
Autisticus@reddit
Also hail ozzy
spilleddrinkcombo@reddit
That goth dude knows how to rock
Necessary-Weekend194@reddit
Uh oh, looks like you realised this thread wasn’t going the way you thought it was now you’re doing that cringy “i was trolling all along!”
komali_2@reddit
Your ignorance about Judaism and Jewish history is honestly embarrassing.
proterraria@reddit
I really hope you are trolling
komali_2@reddit
I really don't think questioning someone's Jewish heritage is a laughing matter.
Smells fascist as fuck.
proterraria@reddit
He never claimed to be Jewish and never converted he is just not a Jew idk what to tell you man
itamer76@reddit
Ok
Autisticus@reddit
Ok m*ssad
EnergiaBuran@reddit
Lol this troll doesn't understand a Harris reference
Ah, to be this ignorant
itamer76@reddit
Yeah I don’t care about USA politics sorry.
EnergiaBuran@reddit
Haha, it's okay. You're way better off living in your hovel then trying to venture into our politics
pemboo@reddit
Where are all the biggest international banks?
DownwindLegday@reddit
USA and China
itamer76@reddit
Idk idc
Radaysho@reddit
well that's the problem
itamer76@reddit
Your problem. Idc about conspiracy theories
Radaysho@reddit
It's USA and China fyi
itamer76@reddit
Cool
Radaysho@reddit
ikr
Radaysho@reddit
USA and China. What's your point?
lupenguin@reddit
We Swiss are just mountain Jews
IllustriveBot@reddit
Jr. is a Jewish name.
AnalogueModerator@reddit
he's ethnically jewish
itamer76@reddit
He is of Jewish decent. No ethnically. For that his mother would need to be Jewish.
AnalogueModerator@reddit
In modern Rabbinic Judaism, the traditional method of determining Jewishness relies on tracing one's maternal line. According to halakha, the recognition of someone as fully Jewish requires them to have been born to a Jewish mother.[1] A person who is born to a non-Jewish mother and a Jewish father is regarded as Zera Yisrael (lit. 'Seed of Israel') and will only be accepted as ethnically Jewish and not as religiously Jewish. Thus, being Jewish through the paternal line typically necessitates conversion to Judaism to validate one's identity as a Jew in the fullest sense.
pasted this from wikipedia
itamer76@reddit
Wikipedia is not reliable. And yeah he is of Jewish descent. Noting more. Even if he sometimes uses a necklace or something is like a USA person whose parents are Mexican and now starts to claim he is as well. No he is of Hispanic descent
AnalogueModerator@reddit
but do you have anything that says your mother has to be jewish to be considered ethnically jewish
itamer76@reddit
May local rabbi. and a whole life on the Jewish community where that is the norm.
AnalogueModerator@reddit
i'm going to trust wikipedia over your local rabbi
itamer76@reddit
What can I tell you. They are not considered Jews and a lot of them are not allowed to get into Israel.
mischling2543@reddit
The lesson is if you make a funny enough minstrel show you won't get cancelled
MausBomb@reddit
The only real law of comedy is that is has to be funny. However there is no actual concrete definition of what's funny so it's an easy law to break.
MentalRadish3490@reddit
This nuance is lost on a lot of comedians as well
Some people who have been “cancelled” just lost popularity because they weren’t funny in the first place
chainer3000@reddit
Also all the characters in the movie thought he was insane for doing the black face thing, too. You can always write one character in doing taboo shit if other characters also recognize its taboo
ReallyTeddyRoosevelt@reddit
Jimmy Kimmel doing Karl Malone was good enough he hasn't been cancelled.
Andalfe@reddit
Boomers thought this was the funniest thing since aeroplane.
Circle_Dot@reddit
No boomer watched this and thought it was funny. Go back to elementary school and learn the basics of time.
ZootAllures9111@reddit
I was a teenager when it came out and my parents were like 54 and 60 or so, we all liked it
ZootAllures9111@reddit
I was 17 when this movie came out and I thought it was funny as fuck
lookslikeyoureSOL@reddit
Because it was and is funny.
bob1111bob@reddit
Both are great films Wdym?
ITinnedUrMumLastNigh@reddit
Idk man, it was pretty funny for me
Cumsocktornado@reddit
As a filthy millenial this movie really is wine- it only gets funnier, and somehow more prescient for its time, everytime I watch it. The way it really captured the stupidity of celebrities and their culture, and the media landscape writ large, was not at all obvious to me as a teen as it is now.
11711510111411009710@reddit
Well it's like the only not racist way to do black face, and it was funny
MuppetFucker2077@reddit
You people? What do you mean ”you people”?
KingTyrionSolo@reddit
Funny story: when I was 12, my parents rented this movie from the video store and were watching it after me and my brother went to sleep, so I bear crawled down the hallway to hide next to a couch where my parents couldn’t see me and watch the movie.
However, my dad caught me when he got up to go to the bathroom, and they were pretty mad at me. I told them “in 10 years we’ll all be laughing about this.” Now, it’s one of our favorite movies and they admit I was totally correct.
kaninkanon@reddit
It's also not blackface
the1talianstallion@reddit
It’s stolen valor
Autisticus@reddit
I demand to see the back of 009's hand