Haven't Upgraded My PC in over 10 Years

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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy@reddit

OK, some qualifying questions..

Your location? (USA, Canada, Europe..etc) If USA, What suppliers are near you? For instance, are you near a MicroCenter? You also have, of course, online retailers such as Newegg, Amazon, and others..

If you can drive to the nearest MicroCenter, you have it made. To me, a couple of hours driving to one is worth it!

Your current setup is a time tested (obviously) Intel. I point that out to ask something these fanboyz didn't. And that's what you use your PC for? JUST gaming? Or perhaps more of productivity and some gaming?

The consensus generally is AMD currently is best for gaming. The reason for that is a current CPU, the 7800X3D! It's the king of gaming processors when set up with the proper motherboard, RAM, GPU, PSU, etc.

However, Intel beats AMD when it comes to a productivity/gaming mix. So, if you can get to a MicroCenter, you will find a great salesforce who will guide you to building either machine after analyzing your needs. On the plus side, they always have bundled sales going that save you tons of money. Also, if you don't want to build it yourself, for a fee, they'll build it for you.

$1500⁰⁰ will get you a mid to upper tier machine that may, based on YOUR usage, last another 10 years. You just have to decide which system you need basing it on your own history of use. Oh, BTW, in today's motherboard world, either Nvidia or AMD graphics cards work on both platforms. The balance on deciding which GPU to buy is easy. If you want to get games that use RayTracing or DLSS technology for more realistic gaming, go Nvidia. AMD may give you better framerates, but they don't do DLSS or RayTracing as good.. Above ALL? Have fun!

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TheGuyInDarkCorner@reddit

Are you telling me 1070 is already 10 years old?

I feel like it was released yesterday. I feel old now...

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breadatolivegarden@reddit

"Not putting extra money for a new mobo" isn't an option. Nothing you can have on that motherboard will be better than a modern budget build. And that would be more of a waste of money than a new mobo and cpu. If you just want something that can function then get a b450 motherboard with a 5600x. If you want a better upgrade bath go for b650 and a 7600x3d. Intel is an option as well now that they've fixed some of their issues on older platforms, but lga 1700 won't be receiving any more upgrades and idk much about 1851.

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chef109@reddit (OP)

Just had a follow up question if anyone sees this. I noticed that all the pcpartpicker build guides all the way up to the glorious ones have 32 gigs of RAM. Is there a even a point to 64 instead of 32 or would that just be an extra $100 down the drain?

I only plan on gaming with it. There's a very small chance of me streaming occasionally as well. The most demanding game I play is probably Overwatch. The entire reason I have 64 to begin with is because I like to play the absurdly huge Minecraft modpacks and I like to be able to give them lots of ram so it doesn't take, like, 15 minutes to open the game.

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ThrwAwayAdvicePlease@reddit

32gb is plenty

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Appropriate_Earth665@reddit

I wish 32gb was plenty I used between 12-15gb at "idle" lol

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PiotrekDG@reddit

I don't think you could well utilize 64 GB in a mid tier PC, you'd probably need better mobo, CPU, and GPU, then. Though in Minecraft, it probably depends what kind of modpacks they are, you might also play around with how much RAM Java is allowed to allocate.

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ozSillen@reddit

32gb is plenty. 64gb means you don't have to find overpriced 2nd hand ram in a few years time. Depends on your upgrade cycle.

I recently got a good deal on 2x 32gb kit for 12700k / z690 ddr4 build so the only thing I need to change out in the next few years is maybe 2080ti when bf25 comes out

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HonchosRevenge@reddit

That budget is enough to get you onto a new am5 system that will run very well for midrange in this year.

Since am5 opens you up to AMD I’d go for a 7600x which is a very solid, affordable cpu, Gpu you can stretch for nvidia if you’d like but a good alternative is something like the 6750xt, which will let you play most AAA games at 100-120fps on higher settings at 144p. It’ll crush 1080p.

Besides that it’s just rounding up everything else. I built a new pc on the same cpu/gpu a few months ago for my gf and it only cost about $1000, but we could’ve saved more if we weren’t going for aesthetics, meaning you can probably build something similar for cheaper and better.

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Combat_Waifer@reddit

I just upgraded from a PC pretty similar to yours. Spent like 2k on a mostly top of the line PC and it's well worth it. Buy once cry once

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Dudensen@reddit

Why would you think your board doesn't support AMD gpus? Makes no sense.

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N0body@reddit

With this budget, there’s no point in keeping anything from your old PC. Those outdated components will only hold you back.

The only things you could consider reusing are the 64 GB of DDR4 RAM (but how fast is it? It might be super slow) and the storage (which you haven’t listed). However, with over $1,000, you can build a DDR5 system on an AM5 socket, which will offer better upgrade options in the future.

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chef109@reddit (OP)

Oh the RAM is at 1066MHz and I didn't list the storage because I didn't think it was important but I have: 2TB Hitachi SSD 4TB Seagate HDD 1TB Samsung 970 EVO

But yeah, If I have too look at a computer from scratch I guess I'll go to PC Part Piker and see what they got since that's what I did last time.

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korgs@reddit

Your DDR4 speeds should be at 2133Mhz. Are you underclocking your RAM?

I hope you have the RAM sticks with same speeds / timings in all slots.

Also, I hope your OS is installed on the Samsung 970 evo drive. That will give you fastest speed.

One thing that you can definitely consider is deep cleaning your PC (reapplying thermal paste etc), and consider overclocking CPU to 4.0 and RAM to 3200 with enough cooling. What kind of cooler you currently have? What are your temps?

Depending upon your PSU, you can think about upgrading your graphics card.

If Overwatch / Minecraft are the games you play, your PC should be easily able to handle those. You wouldn't need a new PC.

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uniq_username@reddit

That gen intel uses ddr3.

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korgs@reddit

The i5-6500 supports ddr4 : https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006047/processors.html

So does his mobo Gigabyte B510M :

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B150M-DS3H-rev-10/sp#sp

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szczszqweqwe@reddit

You can use your old PC as a home server, you can start from slapping a Ubuntu Server Edition and Casa OS and build on that.

You don't need a GPU for that use.

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Jalina2224@reddit

Yeah, definitely gotta start from scratch with this, considering the lack of upgradablity. As long as the 1070 ain't broken and If you don't want to drop a lot of money on a new GPU, you could maybe hang onto the 1070 for a tiny bit longer if you're not planning on playing the newest games coming out. The 1070 is pretty outdated, but its still a capable GPU and can even play something newer like Black Myth Wukong at 60fps. (Save up for a good GPU like a 4080 S or a 7900XT if you want a GPU that will last a long time.)

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chef109@reddit (OP)

New GPU is on the top of my list of priorities because of how many times it's blue screened my pc. At least I assume it's the GPU given it blue screened during the GPU portion of a benchmark test I ran.

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Jalina2224@reddit

It the GPU is causing issues, then, yeah, obviously, replace it asap. Though, it could be something else in the PC causing it to have issues. but considering you want to get a more up-to-date PC anyway, it's probably not worth it to troubleshoot.

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ExplanationStandard4@reddit

Your board supports amd GPUs but honestly it's time you just upgraded everything. And 16x amd GPU will not be bandwidth limited . Unfortunately anything over 50% on a CPU usually means your into hyperthreading. If it's gaming only I'd just put in a 7700xt or a used 6700xt/6750xt due to vram going forward. A 2080ti would be nice if you have a big PSU but kinda old at this point . I know I listed AMD however amd GPUs usually have less driver overhead on th cpu

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LGCJairen@reddit

new computer time. there are ways to make 8th and 9th gen work on your motherboard but if you don't think your motherboard can use an amd graphics card then you aren't ready to start dicking with custom bios and soldering.

at a grand you can get a lot of pc for your money if you shop smart.

i would look at a 12700kf on a cheapish ddr4 z690/z790 board, chonky thermalright air cooler, then use the 1070 to see if black friday brings any gpu deals around.

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RevolutionBetter5391@reddit

Mobo cant use amd graphics card?? What???

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Mopar_63@reddit

Do you have a Microcenter close? If so I would get an AM5 Bundle, a decent GPU, and anything else you need. A good 1440 gaming rig can be built for $1500 or even a little less.

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kovu11@reddit

All motherboards support both NVIDIA and AMD. Only difference is that AMD is cheaper but NVIDIA is flex just like Apple.

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TanTone4994@reddit

We have been waiting for you!!

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NutShellShock@reddit

It's best to budget for a completely new PC. You cannot upgrade CPU without getting a new Mobo. And since you have a Mobo that old, I'm assuming the RAM is old and will be really slow as well. New parts especially new GPU will require sufficient power, so get a good PSU (don't skimp on this). You should also get a reputable NVME SSD brand along with it. $1500 should get you a good and decent build.

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No_Resolution_9252@reddit

You can buy a 1500 dollar laptop that will run circles around that. throw it away, its time for it to go.

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Psyko_sissy23@reddit

You could, but I don't suggest a gaming laptop.

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No_Resolution_9252@reddit

I don't advise looking into the sun either. Why would you look into the sun?

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yeetboii420@reddit

Havent upgraded in 10 years...

Has a m2 and ddr4 ram...

Holy shit i thought it would be ddr2 and gen 1 i7/5.

Man im getting old

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spideralex90@reddit

The GTX 1070 came out in 2016 so I think OPs timeline is a little off but not too terribly far off.

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chef109@reddit (OP)

Yeah, the m.2 I think i would have gotten around 5 years ago. I didn't have anywhere near enough money to make any big upgrades but also acknowledged that I hadn't upgraded anything for 5 years so I bought the m.2 on a recommendation just to make my computer at least a little better.

The ram was actually a pretty recent change. Like 1 or 2 years ago. Similar story of not much money sp I just picked the thing that would be cheapest to upgrade. If I remember correctly, I think I started with 16gigs DDR3

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dulun18@reddit

2015 ?

depending on your budget

AM4 mobo with 5600x and 6600 will be sufficient upgrade imo

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Gerencia1@reddit

AM5 + Nvidia is the way.

B650 Motherboard 7600X CPU 32GB RAM (6000) CL30 RTX 4070 TI SUPER (16GB) GPU 850 W 80 Gold PSU A good air cooler with 2 towers and 2 fans. Mid tower case with 4 fans on it (3 intake on the front 1 exhaust on the back). No RGB please.

And you can get it for 1.3K

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ExtensionPhrase4619@reddit

I don’t think you can get it for 1.3k, the GPU and CPU are 1k just to start. You can get a tower, cooler, psu, mobo, ram, and possibly storage for 300? Plus tax…

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Fizzle45@reddit

I'm running dd3 on a rig I build in 2011. It still plays wow and minecraft lol

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ozSillen@reddit

Yes, jr has 4790k, 4x8gb ddr3, h97, 2080ti. Runs great for the games he plays - fc25, battlefield etc

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beansnchicken@reddit

I don't have anything useful to contribute but it's awesome that PC gaming got to a place where people can stay on the same hardware for a decade and still have a pretty good experience. It's so much better than the days when you could buy a midrange GPU and then just a couple of years later you might not even be able to run a new game.

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ApartmentUpstairs563@reddit

I don't want to sound like an AMD hater, but for this amount of money, you can build a pretty good computer with 12th-generation Intel processors.

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Itzamedave@reddit

Is your OS on HDD? If so that's the issue needs to be on SSD or NVME I have a first gen 2009 i7 running windows 11 pro without issues and never see 100% issues on a 2010 SSD

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Mack_Man17@reddit

Would am5 also. Just got 5700x3d and saffire 5800x after 4 years of original build prices have came right down

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OhforfsakeMJ@reddit

Just get something like Z690 GAMING X DDR4, 12th gen i5, RTX 3060 12GB.

You willl stay inside of your 1k price range, you will not have to change RAM, and you will be able to play almost all games on ultra settings (except a very few) on 1080p.

I am assuming that upgrading your display is not a priority for you at this time.

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ThrwAwayAdvicePlease@reddit

I got this but with a 4060 for £700iah in the UK.

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OhforfsakeMJ@reddit

4060 does not bring much performance increase, and I personally prefer 50% more VRAM.

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ThrwAwayAdvicePlease@reddit

I get wanting the more vram but the 4060 is just plain faster than the 3060, also newer.

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LGCJairen@reddit

this but if he shops smart he can do better than the 3060.

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Confident_Natural_42@reddit

If you're getting BSOD, that means something's broken. And since I have an i5 4590 (which I also bought in 2015) with 16GB DDR3 and an RX570 and don't have any of those issues, pretty sure your system is on the fritz and you'd better invest in a new one unless you can figure out which bit is dying.

For that amount of money you can buy a *significantly* better PC, certainly something pretty good mid-range.

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quapa1994@reddit

Here’s an option:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BQK2KX

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rabbitsrcruel@reddit

Go am5 it's quite new parts will be upgraded the next 4 years.

Look out for 7600x-7700x or 7600 x3d

7800xt-7900 gre

Decent b650 motherboard

32 gb cl 30 6000 mhz or go more if u need

2 tb NVME crucial, WD, Samsung, team group

850w PSU modular gold

With the left over Budget upgrade your monitor to 1440p 180 hz or 240 hz if it allows.

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CarelessObjective686@reddit

This is exactly my build. No need for better cpu when playing 1440p resolution. After 4 years you will get some x3d cpu with newest GPU and you are set for another x years.

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rabbitsrcruel@reddit

True, in the mean time with current gpu's if u got cash I'd rather u spend it on oled monitors I heard there's no going back to cheaper panels after that, it will look much better than upgrading gpu's.

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snaykz1692@reddit

Literally screen shotted this as this is exactly what I’m looking to get. Thanks stranger

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Ok_Butterscotch1549@reddit

PCPartPicker Part List

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Psyko_sissy23@reddit

If OP needs to cut prices a bit, OP can switch to a powercolor 7900 GRE for like $539.

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rabbitsrcruel@reddit

Will the PSU be fine in the long run spare change upgrade it to a better one

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Psyko_sissy23@reddit

It should be fine unless you start upgrading your system to a bigger gpu that requires more power.

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donkey_loves_dragons@reddit

Get a 4070Ti...perhaps a 4060. That will help a lot. The rest is basically stuck. You could exchange the i5 for an i7, but I wouldn't do that.

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knighofire@reddit

You want a 7600 on AM5 so you have the option to upgrade it in a couple years to the 11800X3D or whatever when it comes out.

Here's the best build I could come with under $1500. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sQ6qL9

If you wanna play with the latest tech and graphical advancements go with a 4070 TI Super instead of the 7900 XTX, but the AMD card is generally 20% faster in raster. In games with ray tracing, which are becoming more and more common and almost the standard, the Nvidia card is better though.

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N7even@reddit

Would prefer to stick with NVIDIA rather than AMD because I don't think my MOBO supports AMD

Fair enough if you wanna stick with Nvidia, but the PCIe connector on your motherboard is universal, you can use any modern/semi-modern GPU.

Also, Intel doesn't really have good upgrade path on that motherboard, you will have to do a full system update.

You can keep your m.2 and hard drives, but you will have to wipe the OS drive, so make the appropriate backups.

With $1,500 you can get a pretty decent system.

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Prathh99@reddit

For a strict 1000$ budget, you can get a build with 7600 and 7700XT, or 7800XT if you go AM4.

For 1500, you're looking at 4070 Ti Super or 7900XTX(if you get it cheap).

But yup, as others suggested, just build a new pc.

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