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Mate you've got a dream garage! I've only got my ISF and I'm slowly working towards a silly stupid sportscar for weekend duty. Got any photos of the viper?

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Didn't the just come out and say they were releasing it in 2025???

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SwissMargiela@reddit

S2000 with an electric turbo for that smooth power band while maintaining strong emissions control would be godly

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Haven’t they don’t enough to the Integra and soon Prelude names?

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EICONTRACT@reddit

Making people feel old

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JamieBensteedo@reddit

this response is so funny becasue the s2000 already was a hard relaunch

the s600/800 are like the porshe 365 of the honda world, I would much prefer it look like that than an evolution of the s2000

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LiberalBiasX@reddit

I would love that.

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Nefilim314@reddit

El Camino

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Stone_The_Rock@reddit

Fourth generation Lincoln continental.

Exact same body. Same doors. Same proportions. Magnetic Ride. Electric drivetrain.

It’s a car that’s meant to be seen, not heard. The epitome of money talks, wealth whispers.

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BagBoiJoe@reddit

Dig it. The return of the personal luxury car.

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a_sensible_guy@reddit

I’ve long felt that it’s a very simple thing for Chevy. Take a Camaro. Cut it up. Add a bed. Call it the El Camino. Offer the SS trim. Profit.

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BagBoiJoe@reddit

I can see why you don't work for GM, then.

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ChuckoRuckus@reddit

I’m all for the Camino. I own a 68.

However, I could see the S10 or LUV being more successful. Separate bed/cab is more economical and easier to make regular, ext, and crew cab versions. Make engine options the turbo 2.0L, turbo 2.7L, and the 5.3L (maybe a 3.6 TT for a Xtreme, though I prefer the V8). Keep the weight down, close to 3000 lbs and a payload of 1000. Possibly a EV variant. Thing would sell like mad.

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velociraptorfarmer@reddit

turbo 2.7L, and the 5.3L

Those two will never happen due to any trucklet having a transverse layout in order to meet emissions and fuel economy targets.

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rob_s_458@reddit

I would love to import a Maloo once it becomes legal to do so (see also my current mini-truck). But last time I checked prices were already going up on them. Once Americans can import them, they might be asking $100k on BaT

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_2ndclasscitizen_@reddit

You can already import them, HSV made them from the early 90s onwards

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likwidglostix@reddit

https://www.lefthandutes.com/

It absolutely is until you drive it. I secured financing and walked into dealership ready to buy with no haggling based on Internet reviews and stats. It has an extraordinary delay on acceleration to the point that I think it's a safety issue. Hit accelerator, have a conversation, then it starts to roll.

Everything else about it is great. I test drove turbo and lower model, then tried again with my spouse to make sure it wasn't in my head. We're not talking about a 4 cylinder taking time to get up to speed, but a serious delay in response at all.

If they came out with a version that had pickup comparable to anything similar, I'd trade in, but maverick and trucks 2x the size just do what you ask them to.

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the_mustard_king@reddit

Except it’s literally ugly as all hell :(

I say that as someone who drives a Subaru Baja and would kill for a modern version, on paper the SC is great but my god I hate looking at it

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1PistnRng2RuleThmAll@reddit

Well, most trucks (and sedans, really) have four doors now. It makes sense that a modern day el Camino would too.

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Real_Establishment56@reddit

Something like this?

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BagBoiJoe@reddit

None of them. Reboots are played out in every aspect there could be.

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uchigaytana@reddit

A few options that immediately come to mind:

Ford RS200

Toyota Celica GT4 (AWD with the 3-cylinder and a coupe body style)

Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 (could potentially be the comeback of the century)

Porsche 944 or 968 (Porsche's investment into front-engine development with the Panamera could translate well to a small-wheelbase grand tourer-style coupe)

BMW M1 (to make up for the i8)

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event_horizon_@reddit

+1 for the RS200, one of my favorite cars

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axelguntherc@reddit

The 3000 GT Cross would fit nicely between the Eclipse Cross and Outlander.

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probsdriving@reddit

Upvote for 944. With the 718 leaving soon Porsche needs something in the sub-$100k sports car bracket that isn’t just a CPO 911.

Amate087@reddit

I would like the Celica GT4, hehehehe. I have an ST185 and it would be nice to see what Toyota would do today with those aggressive designs they sell now.

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uchigaytana@reddit

I like to imagine the front end would be something of a cross between the new Prius and the GR Corolla, since the Celica has always had more playful styling than its contemporaries. However, I feel like there's a good chance they'd go the same direction as the TT and end up making the latest front end way too aggressive to appeal to the modern buyer.

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Amate087@reddit

I also imagine that design line of the current Prius although they don't sell it here, in photos it looks nice!

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Crocodile_Banger@reddit (OP)

Oh right. Totally forgot about this one

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No1kissfan@reddit

Buick Grand National.

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benzguy95@reddit

The XJ Jeep Cherokees.

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Trauma-Dolll@reddit

Probe GT

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Drunken_Hamster@reddit

Chrysler Turbine Car but make it a hybrid and run it on biodiesel. A modern version of that powerplant as a 100kw range extender/generator would be godlike in a hybrid. It'd only need around a 50-mile nominal range on pure electric, it'd barely be as loud as a vacuum cleaner, and it'd have low emissions and low heat (the exhaust of the original was cooler than a piston engine since it had a heat exchanger)

It'd have significantly lower maintenance costs all around on account of having less than a dozen moving parts. Plus a much cheaper, smaller, lighter battery whose creation, recycling, and replacement would all have much less combined impact on the environment and slave labor /horrid mining conditions involved in cobalt mining.

Combine that with tailfin styling and a premium interior (hopefully full of nice analog or pseudo-analog gauges and chrome/wood trim) and it'd be a smash hit.

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vantageviewpoint@reddit

Modern cars are a lot quieter than vacuum cleaners.

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Drunken_Hamster@reddit

Maybe purely at the exhaust, but not including all the engine noise and whatnot. I also didn't specify whether that volume was exterior (heard by the world) or interior (by occupants), though I do mean exterior. Additionally, not all vacuum cleaners are the same loudness, and lastly, with modern upgrades, it'd likely be even quieter than whatever might count as an average vacuum cleaner.

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LeBanonJames69@reddit

Nissan Xterra built in the current Frontier platform

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Lots of badge chores will still pay the Toyota tax. All you have to do is look at the insane resale value of the 4.0 4Runners

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Alabatman@reddit

Best I can do is an $80k Y63 patrol.

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

Yep, finally this is one I would buy. Nissan, ball's in your court.

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LeGranMeaulnes@reddit

Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint

Would have been a sick competitor to the Supra and Z.

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Nooranik21@reddit

I've been arguing with my wife that the cyber truck is the spiritual successor to the DeLorean.

It's the vanity project of a problematic millionaire.
Stainless Steel.
Boxy and striking to look at
Kinda built like shit
Cool as fuck.

So imagine a Miata with more power. Slightly bigger/heavier. Emphasis on slightly. No convertible but having some sort of hatchback that greatly increases storage and practicality.

Like if Mazda made a Mustang.

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cilantno@reddit

So you ideally just want the FD?

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AznTri4d@reddit

I mean yes. But updated.

I thought so, and gives it a little more special appeal beyond the rotary. I imagine a bit of a nightmare to manage temps in that packaging, but you wouldn't need crazy power in that chassis. I think the actual 4c only has like 240 or so and it's quick.

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dL_EVO@reddit

Isn’t that a RX8?

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Ru4pigsizedelephants@reddit

No, that wasn't an evolution of the FD, it was a completely different approach to a sports car, and it sucked.

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ExplosiveMachine@reddit

I know I'm biased, but seriously, go drive one. I didn't think much of it until I drove one, and then I bought one myself. Not because it's some halo car, but because you can get it for ridiculously cheap and it blows any over-hyped RWD japanese car like the S13/14 out of the water, and is a much better value than a GT86 or any supra or anything like that.

It handles amazingly well. The rotary in it is the most reliable one yet (still not particularly long lasting, but the FD engines rarely managed 60k miles), it has excellent road handling, excellent ergonomics inside (the FD has about as much interior room as a Miata), is actually a usable 2+2 coupe with power seats and auto AC and all that, and a spectacular GT tourer if you leave it stock, or you can drop it a bit and put on great tires and that's about all it needs. The rest is already there, front mid engine, limited slip diff, double wishbones up front, multilink in the rear, short gears, big brakes, oil coolers, everything.

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srsbsnssss@reddit

trust me if they sold it new, i'd get it

it's cheap for a reason, it requires very delicate ownership and there's no telling what the previous owner did

i also hate catless street cars, sure they sound good but my life is literally being reduced behind one

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ExplosiveMachine@reddit

I totally get the catless hate, but it's not for the sound, i only run it catless so I can premix two stroke oil in the fuel without grenading the 2500€ catalyst, but it's also a weekend only car that I use to bomb around good B roads and such, it stinks to me too, I daily drive a quiet fuel efficient honda hatchback (with a cat).

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ILikeLimericksALot@reddit

You can get proper premix oil for rotaries that doesn't kill the cat. Idemitsu Rotary Premix oil. Burns completely cleanly.

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srsbsnssss@reddit

yeah i get it like i said ive looked in to rx8 so know about premix

goes back to why they're so cheap, they weren't designed well for the average user on the street

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kokopelli73@reddit

Sadly, despite all the great things about this car, it's really hard to justify it due to the MPG.

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This guy gets it. Damn I need to go buy another one.

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ice445@reddit

I can understand saying the engine sucked but that chassis was good. It was later used for the NC miata

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Ru4pigsizedelephants@reddit

That's really what I meant. I know they're nice handling cars, but the decision to not turbocharge it made it completely gutless. Street cars need torque because you can't just go around wringing them out everywhere.

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Track_Rat_@reddit

“You can’t just go around wringing them out everywhere.”

Me once my 86 hits optional operation temperatures: “Challenge accepted.”

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Zappiticas@reddit

Have you driven one? I wouldn’t say they were gutless. Sure they weren’t super powerful, but they were light and nimble and fun as hell to take to the limiter.

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dL_EVO@reddit

I could argue that it's a very similar approach.

50/50 weight distribution
High revving rotary engine
Great inputs and dynamics

I feel the only thing that was really different is that the RX8 is naturally aspirated vs. the RX7 turbo variants. Both cars weren't exactly reliable.

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Ru4pigsizedelephants@reddit

Haha, no I wouldn't call either reliable. I'll never understand why they didn't turbocharge the RX8. I just don't think they were quite sure what they wanted it to be.

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Wiggles69@reddit

I'll never understand why they didn't turbocharge the RX8

Emissions, and Ford fucking around with the design.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RX8/comments/12g3x6m/why_did_mazda_keep_the_rx8_na_what_was_the_reason/jfiwrjn/

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dL_EVO@reddit

Yeah, I agree there. I don't understand their approach to not turbocharge the RX8 when all the Japanese sports cars of that era were going to turbocharging (EVO, WRX, STI, Mazdaspeed Protege, Mazdaspeed3, etc etc).

It wasn't exactly a radical idea, so yeah they were nuts to not do it.

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Zappiticas@reddit

Because rotaries already suffer from reliability issues and adding a turbocharger makes it even worse. RX7’s, especially FD’s were far from reliable vehicles even when meticulously maintained

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RiftHunter4@reddit

just don't think they were quite sure what they wanted it to be.

I think they made exactly what they wanted, but didn't get the response they hoped for. The RX8 was a rotary for the masses. In todays money, it would be a $38k car, which is pretty reasonable.

The reason the car kinda flopped was because regular people don't understand how to care for a rotary, even if you tell them. From what I've heard, the Renesis engine was easy to maintain if you cared for it, but if you tuned it or didn't know what you were doing, it was easy to pop. And it's hard to sell that during a time when every Japanese sports coupe is getting tuned into a fire-breathing track beast.

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StraY_WolF@reddit

It was rotary for the masses with a high revving engine that you CAN'T baby it and eat fuel (and oil) for breakfast.

As far as car for the masses go, it's pretty bad.

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thiskillstheredditor@reddit

As someone who owned one, I fully disagree. The RX-8 was awesome. It was like a 4 seater Miata because it shared a lot of the same underpinnings with the MX-5, plus an NA rotary with a 9500 rpm redline. RWD, a super smooth manual, limited slip differential.

Honestly I get it’s not an RX-7 but you have to hate sports cars to think the RX-8 sucks. I own a Boxster GTS currently and it’s the only car I’ve had that I liked more than my RX-8.

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srsbsnssss@reddit

it was just Ford-era Mazda and shaped kinda awkwardly, but otherwise it's cool that it's N/A

i hope the new rotary-powered hybrid is a 2+2, love that it looks like a stretched ND with FD rear window

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zillapecker@reddit

I think the rx8 was an attempt to be the successor to the rx7 the problem wasn’t the idea or evolution but stricter regulations. The chassis had to be heavy to meet safety standards. And they had to make the engine meet emissions standards which in turn killed the engines performance and longevity bc wankels want to burn oil. I think the rx8 might be the best we could get given the circumstances and unfortunately we will probably never see a return or a Mazda rotary powered sports car.

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I wouldn't sell worth a shit but it'd be so damn cool. Maybe even add a battery and some motors to power the front wheels for traction on launch and lightening up the MPG for city driving to pass EPA if you have to.

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thunderun53@reddit

Mark IX. Lincoln shit the bed once they gave up on an American GT car in the Mark VIII. I had one. It was an absolute cruise missile that rode on a cloud. It didn't turn for crap and was useless if the pavement was even damp, but it was so fun.

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sohcgt96@reddit

Damn I failed on the Roman Numerals there. So I actually put a 1998 Mark VIII engine in my 1996 Mustang GT, everyone wanted way too much money for Cobra engines. Would absolutely still roll in a clean Mark VIII today. How you like the 850i? That's on my "If everything goes really well in the next few years" possibility list.

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thunderun53@reddit

The 850 is an absolute dream. I went from a Jaguar F Type R to the 850 so the engine performance was pretty similar. Everything else was better in the BMW. It's smooth and quiet when I want to be an old man, but it can get loud and wild when I want to be a teenager. I drove the M8 also. It was great for a pure sports feel but it is a one trick pony. It's just always punchy and ready to race. The 850i is multi dimensional. And the M8 seats were murder after 3 miles of driving.

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Isuzu Impulse RS Turbo(Give up NOW. You aint finding this one for sale EVER)

The return of Pontiac the GTO, FIrebird and Banshee

Plytmouth Barracude

Cobra 429

Capri

Mitsubishi 3000GT Lancer Evo Galant VR-4

Mercedes Evo 190e

BMW 2002 Turbo

Lamborghini Aventador(im just pissed the V12 is gone)

Ferrari Testorossa

Mazda RX-2

AMC Eagle, Javelin

I can barely afford to breathe let alone anything on this list I made.

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VEGA3519@reddit

What are you talking about? The N/A V12 is still there

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2ingredientexplosion@reddit

https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/news/the-legend-of-the-v12-engine

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L8_2_PartE@reddit

If there were a modern day version of a Deusenberg, it'd be at least a decade ahead of anything street legal.

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sc0lm00@reddit

It would need a special power train unless they used the ct4v and it couldn't be more expensive than the ct4v. Buick has had a GS version that was a sportier version of the regal for a while now and you rarely see them because they're rebadged opels and not competitive.

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Topikk@reddit

A rebadged CT4-V Grand National with throwback styling cues would be difficult for me to pass up. I’m surely not alone here.

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tlivingd@reddit

If they were to bring the cts4 down market like cloth interior and more of a performance “affordable” (think wrx) Sure not regal pricing but also not blackwing pricing although though gnx could be the stripped down blackwing.

ChuckoRuckus@reddit

First mid engine development for the Corvette began in 1958 under Duntov. It’s a reason why they saved the Zora name as a top performance trim for a mid engine version.

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Bombaysbreakfastclub@reddit

I’d love it if it came back as an EV.

EL_Chapo_Cuzzin@reddit

Duster with the 5.7 HEMI. Make it basic and affordable. I would get one.

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elkab0ng@reddit

The prowler was so cool looking. I’d love to see them being made, but I know it probably wouldn’t make sense financially.

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MustangCoyote@reddit

Dodge Dakota.

It could potentially save the Chrysler Dodge Jeep and Ram from being on the verge of bankruptcy in the US. As long as it looks good, undercuts the maverick in price, and has a 6 ft bed, it will sell by the millions, especially in fleet sales.

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It’s gotta have an even more pronounced lowered roof. Like, a 4’ tall door with 12” of side glass. Plus, really long front end overhang and so much slope to the rear hatch that a compact sedan has way more luggage space

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VEGA3519@reddit

Crossaro doesn't sound good, more like an SUV. I think it would be better to call it a Lumina or Bel Air

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The_Crazy_Swede@reddit

Volvo 1800ES

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The_Duke2331@reddit

Lancia stratos

Lancia delta intergrale

Audi quattro

Bmw E30

Plymouth Superbird

60's Mustang

Ferrari Testarossa

Ferrari F40

Mini R53 JCW (not that crappy spiderman meme suzuki swift they are rolling out)

Bmw 8 serie

Subaru Impreza 555

Mithsubishi Lancer 4 & 5

Northwoodnomad@reddit

YES PLEASE.

With a factory yellow option, please!

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sohcgt96@reddit

I mean, the V60 T8 Polestar is preetty sweet and does have yellow belts.

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Northwoodnomad@reddit

Gimmi that cream 607 babyy ooooooooooooowWEEE On deep dish chrome? I cant even.

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goaelephant@reddit

607 masterrace.

for S60R/V70R, 457 with Atacama interior

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Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit

EX30 yellow on the V60 tho

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liebereddit@reddit

A P1800 would be amazing as well.

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gixxerjim750@reddit

240Z

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Royal_Thrashing@reddit

Ford Thunderbird.

It's been so many things already that I think it would work nicely. As long as it isn't a crossover or SUV.

postitpad@reddit

Model t.

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WatRedditHathWrought@reddit

T for Thunderbird TurboCoupe.

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postitpad@reddit

That’s also a pretty good choice, i love a full size coupe.

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Ford can simply update it by giving it its ubiquitous 3.7 V6 Ecotec that puts out 300bhp in its various cars and SUVs, along with the current 6 speed automatic transmission, and fully independent suspension.

Dud3_Abid3s@reddit

Daaaaaang…hell yes.

That or a Pantera.

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Dud3_Abid3s@reddit

DeLorean

'53 Studebaker coupe or hardtop

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1999_toyota_tercel@reddit

Toyota Tercel

Vauxhall / Opel Omega estate but this WITH the V8 - put an LS in there and offer a hot opc / vxr version with twinturbos or a supercharger

(ok ok I know Stellantis via PSA owns them now and they churn out rebadged Citroens and Peugeots)

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ImpossibleLoss1148@reddit

RS Cosworth would be a crazy piece of kit redone, even for this Ford hater.

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HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit

Ford should have done some utterly crackers focus as a 25 year run out model - Focus RS Cosworth, with 400-500hp and AWD (just so people could emulate the 90s escort rally car)

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rockdude625@reddit

The prowler would for sure have a hellcat version

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mgobla@reddit

Land yachts - Just take the chassis / frame of F150, Silverada, Ram1500 etc, put a huge sedan body on top and keep the ground clearance just high enough for it qualify as SUV officially, would be cheap to do

Citroen DS - give it a super aero body, similar to Aptera, but with 4 wheels and 4 seats and build it with the suspension Bose developed.

Schlörwagen

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virak_john@reddit

Toyota Celica All-Trac Turbo.

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HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit

Saab 9-3 - Really push the link to Saab Jets - I'm thinking hud with a road version of threat detection so hazard detection which can highlight stuff like pedestrians and cyclists, focus on handling primarily but with a good chunk of performance, retain the famously comfy seats but with heating/cooling and offer it as a hatch and wagon. Maybe emulate 6th gen fighters with an AI co pilot - think something closer to Kitt than Siri where when it navigates its making adaptations on the fly based on your driving preferences, traffic conditions, weather etc

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