Is this a good retro pc?
Posted by Automatic_General_92@reddit | vintagecomputing | View on Reddit | 23 comments
Will I need. Gpu to play any 3D games
Posted by Automatic_General_92@reddit | vintagecomputing | View on Reddit | 23 comments
Will I need. Gpu to play any 3D games
myself248@reddit
Any game that requires a thing called a "GPU" isn't retro in my book.
harshbarj2@reddit
Depends I guess. The original Unreal Tournament came out in 1999 and many do consider that "Retro". While it did support software rendering mode, it did best with a 3d accelerator. The voodoo 2 came out a year before this game and really made it a smoother and more detailed experience.
harshbarj2@reddit
Well, doing a quick google here is a 11 year old video about it. 50 seconds in and he is not happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVDPlTZiX8
NightmareJoker2@reddit
General rule of thumb: Don’t get a Dell. If it’s newer than 1996, don’t get an IBM, Compaq, HP, Packard Bell, Peacock, Siemens anything, Fujitsu, Epson, Toshiba, or Medion, unless what you are looking for is a laptop, or an office PC that is good enough for Word and Excel, but not much else. However, if you can open it and inspect the inside, the case is good, if it is steel construction, has an ATX or AT compatible motherboard (even a proprietary OEM one with zero expandability that you’d chuck in a bin) and an AT/ATX form factor power supply. You can remove the motherboard and PSU and replace it with something standard and still have fun! Some of these have had this done already, so, inspect the inside. 🙂 There are some rare models with a standard Phoenix, AMI, or Award BIOS that have mostly standard expandability and ATX power connectors, too, but not common in systems from the large OEMs after like 1997. Often some stuff doesn’t work properly, because nobody was interested in using AGP or PCI graphics adapters, or sound cards. A lot of these OEM systems instead offer things like smart card readers and network adapters that land you in resource conflict hell, with no option to turn them off (especially on Dells with their spartan CMOS configuration utilities).
GeneralTS@reddit
Man, I can remember when we had 10GB HD when it first came out… and we were like “ I’ll never be able to use all that space “. Boy was that wildly inaccurate.
Pangocciolo@reddit
Would you trust a modern PC marketed with a so undetailed list of features? Well, neither do it in the 90's.
thegreatboto@reddit
Depending on your expectations and budget, this would work fine for Win9x. Add in a PCI video card (Radeon 7000/8000/9000 series, GeForce 3/4/FX) and you should be fine for most late 90s/early 00s games. Not sure what SoundBlaster it includes, probably the OEM Live 5.1. Could upgrade that to an Audigy of some sort.
Fine-Funny6956@reddit
Dude! You got a Dell! Aaunggghhnnnnnggh… I’ll see myself out…
pseudorooster@reddit
No. Don't buy it. Does not have a AGP slot as far as I know, and the integrated GPU is bound to be horrible.
TxM_2404@reddit
I mean some decent PCI cards like the Radeon 9250 PCI exist, or the Voodoo 3 PCI if you're a millionaire. But in my opinion it's still not worth getting into these OEM machines as they usually suck.
amateur_radio_fox@reddit
Voodoo 3 cards cost so much. My main retro gaming rig has a 3500 and I paid less than 400 for the whole system after shipping a year ago(I left a great eBay review). I keep looking for similar systems for a retro lan party but they always cost double that if they have a voodoo 3 :(
LousyMeatStew@reddit
There are PCI versions of the GeForce 6200 and 8400 GS that you can get pretty inexpensively. The 6200 is supported on Win9x and higher while the 8400 GS is supported on WinXP and higher.
LousyMeatStew@reddit
Fun fact: Dell's Dimension line ended up getting such a horrible reputation that Dell killed it off entirely. They ended up rebranding them with the Inspiron brand which, up until then, was exclusively used for their laptops.
magistersmax@reddit
My first computer that was mine alone was an L800r. I tinkered with that thing as much as I possibly could, which wasn’t much. I spent many a night playing Sim City 3000 and chatting on AIM on that thing… good times.
No AGP slot, crappy integrated graphics, and proprietary power supply (the power supply was the only hardware issue I had). Wouldn’t recommend for a retro computer.
Knut_Knoblauch@reddit
Never Deller here
achbob84@reddit
I remember setting these up brand new lol. Cheap, but very reliable.
majestic_ubertrout@reddit
Don't unless it's really cheap. It will run games from the end of the DOS era really well - so if you want to run Duke3D in DOS using Windows 98 in DOS mode it will be solid. It's bad for almost anything else - as others have said it's not a good fit for early 3D gaming, and it's much too fast for older DOS games.
CAStrash@reddit
810 chipset, don't have AGP at least not normally. Do not buy, find something with an 815 series if you want a p3 from this era. Even a 440bx with Slot1 to socket370 will outperform this.
FPB270@reddit
Other than I had an internal zip drive and a 9-gig hard drive. This is similar to the one I had built by Dell and shipped to me in 99. My P3 was a 500 and mobo had an AGP slot.
kissmyash933@reddit
I’m with the other poster. This form factor was one of the cheapies, it really probably shouldn’t have the Dimension name on it. Only IF you can confirm that it has AGP should you buy it. Otherwise, a PIII Dimension in the other larger style is a much better bet!
x86_64_@reddit
It's beautiful in its own way. I miss those formed front panels on the Dimensions.
Not good for gaming though.
IRMuteButton@reddit
That series of Dell Dimensions was not well suited to expansion. I would not buy one.
AudioVid3o@reddit
Hmm, I'd say to not go for it, the seller didn't disclose what p3 is installed in it and if the motherboard has agp slots. Also it only has 2 gigs of hard drive space, which is low for a windows 98 era pc