Tim Waltz-“I’m a gun owner, just like you.”

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

At least you can be happy knowing you didn’t vote for bad orange man and let our rights be taken away

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cyancluee@reddit

What boogeyman is physically taking them away? Lol

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

kamala wants ban assault weapons: AKA any semi auto weapon over cal 22 immediately. that would be the rigjts taken away

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She has said she's not taking anyone's guns away. Maybe tighter restrictions through back ground checks but he'll that's necessary with all the gun violence we have. I don't see the issue if it helps stop the mass shooting problem we currently have.

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PirateRob007@reddit

She has also said she will take guns away. Don't feel bad, all the flip flopping and pandering is hard to keep up with after all. Honestly, I'd be fine with her taking 2A away so long as my teenage boys have easy access to tampons.

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cyancluee@reddit

Big talk coming from the "Shootings are just part of our lives" crowd lol rather my kid feel accepted and safe in schools under gun restrictions. Crazy how you can't visit a guns subreddit without right wingers turning to "who's taking away our guns this time?". When was the last time a politician stopped you from buying a firearm?

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PirateRob007@reddit

You know, there's a whole lot of good, workable solutions... Lots of ground between "shootings are just part of our lives" and "deprive law abiding citizens of their right to self defense."

Just because you are an extremist who believes in depriving citizens of 2A does NOT mean anyone who disagrees is an extremist who believes there is nothing we can do. Also, you are clearly unaware of all the state level AWBs of recent times. Seriously, get your head out of your ass and smell a little reality.

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cyancluee@reddit

Lol I'm not against guns or taking away the 2nd. I just think there definitely need stricter and harsher gun laws. Again I think it definitely should be harder to obtain them especially ARs and honestly anything with a 15+ magazine capacity. Tax stamp all the stuff that's unnecessary for hunting or defending yourself not like anyone's AR15 is gonna stop the liberal drone strikes 0-:

It's not taking the right away its damage reduction. (':

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

even if she isnt sending people door to door, she is gonna make a registry first, illegalize the sale of these subjectively determined 'assault weapons', and then send people to your house when you die to take your guns.

its just taking the guns with extra steps and completely undermining the point of the 2A. its tkaing away a right by restricting citizens to just hunting weapons

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cyancluee@reddit

Nobody will do that. She may make it harder to get certain weapons but it's for the safety of others. If it takes 2 weeks to get an AR instead of being able to purchase one the moment anyone wants it nationally then I'm fine with it. Push for more responsible gun ownership and keeps it out of the hands of the lunatics that take them to shoot other people.

Nothing will take away the 2nd amendment. You're making up scenarios that are entire fiction. I'm all for guns but this just screams right wing boogey man.

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

Its all a 'boogeyman'. 'She doesn't really want to take guns away'. Here's her own words:

September 2019 Campaign event: "confiscating 'assault weapons' is a good idea"

September 2019 Jimmy Fallon show: "I do believe we need mandatory buybacks"

October 2019 Public Forum: Reporter: How mandatory would your buybacks be? "It's mandatory"

March 2024 Kamala Harris gun fact sheet: "Vice President Harris calls on Congress to pass universal background checks, a national red flag law, an assault weapons ban"

That last one is very recent and like I said: federal registry of firearms so that she can ban the sale of any semi auto over 22 cal (her definition of assault weapon). BAN not restrict, read her own words. This could mean door to door confiscation, could mean mandatory buybacks, or it could be that agencies confiscate all these guns after the owner dies (much like NY with pistols).

If you are unable to read or do research that's fine, but don't make it everyone else's problem and say we are the insane ones.

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cyancluee@reddit

https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/despite-lies-spread-by-trump-and-the-nra-harris-and-walz-do-not-want-to-take-everyones-guns-away/

Again they don't want to do it and won't. Again a right wing boogey man and they say with every democrat so another case of boy crying wolf. As a gun owner, this whole thing is why I don't even attempt to get into gun collecting as a hobby lol

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

the only reason that title is not straight up libel is because they are saying 'kamala doesn't want to take every gun away', but she does want to ban every semi auto larger than 22 cal.

be honest did you even read a single quote i sent you? not even the piece from kamala's own administration? here ill sum it up again because you think a misleading title from a democrat group like 'american progress action' somehow washes away Harris's own statements:

HARRIS CALLS ON CONGRESS TO BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Its right on her mf admin's page!!! how can you not fucking read this?? This means banning the rifles owned by 10's of millions of americans.

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cyancluee@reddit

If it helps reduce shooting deaths, why not? There's multiple other options, and again, they're not going to. The only thing I found supporting your case was the NRA. But I'm for higher gun restrictions, so it keeps guns out of psychos hands. I'm sure many other Americans agree. Sorry, not everyone needs to be able to go out and buy large capacity magazines. If you do, then get a tax stamp for it like a suppressor.

Im all in for support for gun control, for sure!

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

Quote: "Vice President Harris call on Congress to pass universal background checks, a national red flag law, an assault weapons ban, and a secure storage law; to repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA)"

SOURCE

this quote is near the bottom of the page. pay attention to the 'white house.gov' part of that link, i see that reading comprehension eludes you

see how your position just rotated from 'she doesnt want to ban millions of guns!!!' to 'so what she wants to ban millions of guns? itll be good!'

you never genuinely believed your first point and youre too weak to admit you were wrong. you immediately ditched your first position because you never really cared about it. you want to ban millions of guns too.

youre just a democrat gun grabber too who maybe has a shotgun his grandfather left him in his house. or your dad has a gun in a safe somewhere.

you were wrong about the 'boogeyman' thing, now shoo shoo back to the front page of reddit where youll never be challenged in your lies again

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cyancluee@reddit

Bless your heart...

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

Look up prop H from CA and you’ll see exactly what here stances on your 2A rights are, she very clearly wants to take your guns away, she even said multiple times she support mandatory buy backs

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cyancluee@reddit

That's brings nothing relevant up...Again she won't you're scared of a boogeyman. Even if she supports it doesn't mean it's going to be final law either.

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Bubbly-Scarcity-4085@reddit

bahahahah so if trump supports a bill and it doesnt pass does that mean all the drooling democrat redditors will just ignore something he supported?

is that seriously your point?

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

The fact that she even support something like that already tells me everything I need to know, she’s not pro 2A and any gun owner who votes for her is either ignorant, or knows what she’s gonna do in terms of 2A rights, also, I hope you realize an assault weapon ban was passed before and could be again if she’s elected, and for the sake of the 2A, that can’t happen

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FalseIndividual238@reddit

It's fuckin wild leftists can try and claim that they aren't anti 2A.

I mean... how many times have we seen biden and now harris and waltz rant on about how awful ars are, about mandatory buybacks and various unconstitutional restrictions?

"OH but harris owns a "glock" of some kind... so she's obviously pro gun rights...

I think some of them actually believe they really are pro gun... and are just stuck on a double think loop.

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cyancluee@reddit

🫡

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No-Researcher-6186@reddit

Temporary gun owner gonna temporary gun owner 🤷‍♂️

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needtoredit@reddit

2A is not for hunting.

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PepeLePewPew@reddit

This is a complete "How do you do fellow gun owners" propaganda piece.

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ilikerelish@reddit

I took it more as a "I am a bit of a gun owner myself" meme

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Helassaid@reddit

"I own a Glock." - presidential candidate from the most restrictive state in the nation, who most certainly does not own a Glock.

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BadgersHoneyPot@reddit

And yet at the same time there is no law - no specific enumeration or mention in the Constitution - that there exists any right to oppose laws in America. So there’s that.

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OG_Fe_Jefe@reddit

Well........perhaps hunting......

.. but not for 4 legged animals.....

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ilikerelish@reddit

This man handles a gun like no one I have ever known handles a gun. The safe ones, or the mildly dangerous ones. I have NEVER observed a man try to load a bottom loader while the gun is right side up.

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Sad-Doughnut-6989@reddit

Amen.....lol. you turn it to its side, slightly up if needed. I usually will combat load my 1st shell and then load the rest.

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Squirrel-451@reddit

Waltz sucks. But many of my 2A buddies can’t unload my a300 or a400 (this gun) without looking like a bunch of drunk bumblefucks either.

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MalPB2000@reddit

Why?

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Squirrel-451@reddit

The cycling system is a little different. You have cycle the bolt to clear the camber, click the bolt release (located just beneath the feed ramp), cycle it to load the round, cycle it again to clear the chamber, and then repeat.

I realize it’s his. I see the clip and just assume (know) he hasn’t shot it much.

Vid for reference make sure to peep the comments on the YT video too.

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MalPB2000@reddit

Aren’t you talking about unloading? There’s the additional button on the loading gate to release a round, but for loading that’s not really relevant. It seems pretty insignificant for someone that’s allegedly shot a least a few boxes through a shotgun, which would be very easy in a single session of sporting clays.

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Squirrel-451@reddit

But many of my 2A buddies can’t unload

Yes. Walz had locked out the feedramp (part of the 'unloading' process, while he was trying to load it) and then couldn't figure out how to undo it.

And to your second sentence:

I see the clip and just assume (know) he hasn’t shot it much

I don't understand what you're trying to do coming at me man? We agree that this man clearly isn't proficient with his own weapon.

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MalPB2000@reddit

Not coming at you at all bro lol

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Squirrel-451@reddit

My bad then, just read a whole lot like it.

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MalPB2000@reddit

Not at all!

I apologize, I missed the “unload” part in your first response. I thought Walz was trying to load his gun in the video, so I had loading in my head.

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Squirrel-451@reddit

No he is (or at least that's what the video was captioned). I was just lamenting about the other since I had just been hunting with my buddy this weekend and somewhat enjoyed watched him struggle. Easy to miss, especially given the context of the video.

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MalPB2000@reddit

I would agree that if you never seen a gate latch it could be confusing.

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vegetaman@reddit

I only look like an idiot trying to extract shell casings when they double feed, stove pipe or slip by the extractor.

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soiledmeNickers@reddit

SHHHH that doesn’t fit the narrative here!

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

To make it even worse, if you look at ten replies, Beretta put out a statement saying that Waltz was recklessly handling his Beretta A400 so badly that even they had to condemn it, but sure, he’s definitely like us as all those r/temporarygunowners say

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yoooooosolo@reddit

Ah you saw it and liked it, therefore it's factual.

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SconsinBrown@reddit

That’s a fake image of a reply.

Why Would Beretta USA have a Luxembourg address?!?

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Drow_Femboy@reddit

Yeah the address seems fine to me but the content seems really dumb. If he was flagging people or something, sure, maybe the company would come out and say "don't associate us with this." But the dude was just fumbling with a tricky gun, he wasn't doing anything particularly reckless. No company would get involved like that

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SconsinBrown@reddit

I remember when a sitting vice president shot his friend while they were on a bird hunt. And then the friend apologized!

Perazzi never disassociated with him.

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squats_and_sugars@reddit

The main holding company is indeed headquartered in Luxemburg though it is odd that it's signed Beretta Holding USA, not just Beretta Holding (where the Lux address would make the most sense).

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NACL_Soldier@reddit

Lmao where? I wanna read it

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

Scroll down a bit, you’ll find the reply

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Salsalito_Turkey@reddit

Not seeing anything.

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

Really?, it should be there, I can see it

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Salsalito_Turkey@reddit

Do you mean a comment in this thread, or a reply on Twitter? If it’s here, I can’t see it. If it’s on Twitter, I ain’t downloading an app or making an account just to look for a clapback from beretta.

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

It’s in the twitter thread, I can make a follow up post, I have the image screenshot

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helwyr213@reddit

can you post it on imgur and just link it here? I guess if you dont have a twitter account you cant read comments.

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JayZorBlade@reddit

Please tell me you weren’t dumb enough to believe and you own a gun?

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helwyr213@reddit

Nope. Don't believe. I was more so frustrated that people say they'll create another post for a screenshot they say they already have, when posting it to a place like imgur and linking it takes 2 seconds.

Nope, don't own a gun yet. Waiting for my license (Canada) before I can legally possess one. RCMP is taking their sweet time.

Side note... no need to be an asshole for someone just getting into shooting and asking questions. JFC

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

Imgur Here this is the reply

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diprivanity@reddit

That looks fake as hell dawg

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Berreta_topg239@reddit (OP)

In what way?

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diprivanity@reddit

Well first off because any company that wants government contracts isn't going to wade into trying to dunk on a political candidate. You have to be incredibly naive to think they would risk dollars for this shit.

Then the letter uses the address of Beretta Holding SA (Luxembourg), the parent company of Beretta (Italy) and Beretta USA (US). But it uses the letter head of Beretta (Italy). The logo even has some black bar from the shitty crop job. Then it is signed Beretta Holding USA.

There is no such thing as Beretta Holding USA.

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Graham2990@reddit

Quarter of a BILLION dollar contract for the M9 program that expires this year or in ‘25, yet folks are so quick to believe “haha, look at them talking smack about an American political candidate”

People only see what supports their narrative lol

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CleveEastWriters@reddit

Please make a post with that.

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sobrietyincorporated@reddit

They don't say what the reckless part was. Pointing skywards?

I know it's not text book, but he's not flagging anybody. Shit I see every other person not keeping their gun pointed down range when clearing a jam.

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dknisle1@reddit

And yet Beretta doesn’t have the balls to post the statement to their own Twitter.

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gameragodzilla@reddit

Technically, he's unloading his shotgun rather than loading it, but even his unloading technique is fumbling like an idiot.

Here's Paul Harrell (rest in peace) demonstrating how to unload shells from the tube properly. Evidently, Walz should've watched his content if he wanted to pretend better.

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Able_Twist_2100@reddit

Berettas behave differently, they don't pull from the tube when hand cycling.

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gregkiel@reddit

You’re getting downvoted but I also own this gun. You’re 100% correct lol. It looks like he is trying to unload it without dropping the shells while keeping the barrel up.

From a safety standpoint, he is doing everything right here..

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yoooooosolo@reddit

If those kids could read they'd be so upset right now

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gameragodzilla@reddit

I know that, but they still have a shell release button that you push on to eject the shell from the tube with the follower upward.

The overall procedure of pushing up the lifter and pushing the shell release button to unload is similar. Also, it'd be a lot easier to do it with the shotgun flipped upside down where you can see it and gravity wouldn't cause the shell to fall on the floor immediately. That's how I usually unload my SPAS-12, though evidently Paul's good enough to do it right side up.

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Prodrumer43@reddit

Still crazy Paul Harrell won’t ever make videos again. Such a fucked up ending to a great dude.

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gameragodzilla@reddit

His brother Roy is doing a good job, but yeah, I’ll always miss Paul. Dude was awesome.

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trogger13@reddit

Who needs a video? You take your hi-vis beanie, cover the ejection port, and pump away like a 13yr old with alone time.

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Sianmink@reddit

Paul was an actual shooter and hunter, with competence in his firearms.

Timmy clearly has only ever used his Beretta for photo ops and runs it like he's never had to shoot it before.

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512Hazydays@reddit

Walz is like the vets wearing infantry hats who end up telling you they were just attached to infantrymen when you ask them what unit they were in. He's a disgrace to those of us who actually went to war. I wouldn't even trust him to clear his rifle properly. You can't paint his stolen valor commrent as him misspeaking and expect anyone who knows the military to not be appalled at his lies.

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MalPB2000@reddit

He’s not like that guy, he is that guy…literally! lol

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PirateRob007@reddit

I am the kind of man who always ensures my teenage sons have access to tampons, just like Tim.

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MintyFresh1201@reddit

A gun owner that can’t load his own shotgun. Lol.

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PBandC_NIG@reddit

This is a 23 second long twitter video with no context. Without any additional info, we don't know if he's loading it, unloading it, if it had a jam, or what. I get it that the election is right around the corner, but let's be better than the rest of Reddit. I've had stupid moments before too, like struggling to let down the hammer on a 1911 I was handling at a store before remembering it had a grip safety. I was lucky and nobody was filming that.

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