Just when I’m feeling good about myself, this dude parks next to me

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IllustriousAirBender@reddit

There is literally always a bigger boat… the real luxury is the time to use the one you have…

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I was in Mallorca and some old dude went swimming by, I said hello and he was really interested that we were living on such a small boat (43’ bene) so I invited him up and he was just amazed. Turns out he was the owner of the super yacht on the dock in front of us. He flew in late the night before and would be leaving the next morning. He said it was the first time on his boat up until then he had just gotten bills and seen pictures.

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IllustriousAirBender@reddit

Love it!

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JustAnotherYouth@reddit

I always felt like the smart one rolling up to an exclusive anchorage in my 20K boat when no boat around looked worth less than 500K.

I think the starkest moment was when Aurelius 111 anchored next to me in the outer harbor at Cuttyhunk.

I always figured I got the same sunsets for 1/1000th the price, and as they say the smaller the boat the bigger the adventure.

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BehrHunter@reddit

And then you go crawl into a little space the size of a dog kennel to sleep at night or shower standing over the crapper.

I love sailing. I don't care what size the boat is but when it comes to getting older I don't want to be crawling around on my hands and knees to go to bed.

57' is my sweet spot. Small enough to handle with one other. Big enough to have a full centerline birth that I don't need to crawl into at night. And room to entertain a couple more guests in comfort.

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JustAnotherYouth@reddit

The sooner you stop crawling around the sooner you lose the ability.

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rotortrash7@reddit

This

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BehrHunter@reddit

Yoga man, Yoga!

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LameBMX@reddit

so....

since smallish ketches (little bit sub 50') with an actual cabin keep catching my attention.

how tf you stay on a bed in rough seas?

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BehrHunter@reddit

Guest bunk with a Lee cloth.

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JustAnotherYouth@reddit

Yawn, I prefer the repetitive motion injuries I collect from surfing.

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pixel_foxen@reddit

Onboard Aurelius 111 has a range of toys and accessories to keep you and your guests entertained

literally what

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Col-1@reddit

Yes but you could get into Cuttyhunk Pond if you needed to avoid weather. The Aurelius wouldn’t at 14’ draft.

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AeroRep@reddit

Dang. That link says “crew of 3” for Aurelius 111. That’s some busy crew

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

On a modern yacht like that I’d imagine most of the systems are push-button. For example this one next to me has boom-furling main and mizzen which I’m sure must be powered, so they would be able to raise and lower sails with a button. Doesn’t take a lot of active seamanship man hours compared to what a boat like that would have taken in years past.

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Fornicate_Yo_Mama@reddit

But the maintenance… At least we did like 2 hours of maintenance for every hour we were sailing or fuckin off standing watch on the square riggers and luxury yachts I crewed 20-30 years ago. These crews are probably closer to 5:1.

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TrojanThunder@reddit

I'll let them know you think so. Mostly run with 2.

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strictnaturereserve@reddit

But..but so much room for activities on its deck!

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Imaginary-Data-6469@reddit

Agreed. You can't beat the feeling of using a skill you've developed to enjoy literal "million dollar views", adventures and experiences for less than the price of a mid-range off-the-shelf all-inclusive.

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RegularJoe62@reddit

If I can't single hand it, it's too big.

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Then-Blueberry-6679@reddit

We stayed at a ton of anchorages this summer in the Ballaeric islands and southern France. These big yachts were nice to look at but they were not able to sneak into shallower areas of the harbor and enjoy the calms and the sandy bottom. Of course they had the crew to set them up with jet skis and other toys but the 5-6m spots were much cozier!

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

I had tenders bigger than the boat we were on in Spain zipping their clients to the shore.

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Then-Blueberry-6679@reddit

Right! I didn’t see the enjoyment in it. Half the time they were sitting on their phone.

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swissarmychainsaw@reddit

Boating is not a sport for the insecure!

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Kalios-g@reddit

Comparison is the thief of joy

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thedudefrombs@reddit

Comparison is the thief of joy.

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Atomic-pangolin@reddit

Found it: https://www.superyachttimes.com/yachts/abide

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slammedfd@reddit

You should feel better about yourself because his annual maintenance probably costs as much as a new Lamborghini.

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TheLesserWeeviI@reddit

The trick isn't buying the most expensive boat you can afford. That's easy.

The trick is buying the cheapest boat that meets your needs.

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GreenEyes_OliveSkin@reddit

ALWAYS a bigger Whale lurking.

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Awkward-Cake-5069@reddit

You show them up by sitting butt naked on your boat, basking in the where they can see you. Show them who the real skipper is

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

I always like to start my day with some early morning naked goat yoga on the bow. After an hour or so I have a very wide berth, I don’t know why.

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Awkward-Cake-5069@reddit

Lmao 😂

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daurgo2001@reddit

There’s always a bigger boat out there.

Bigger = a lot more responsibility, not only financially, but hours, team, etc. Is it worth it? Maybe. Is it worth worrying about not having it? Definitely no.

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caeru1ean@reddit

Excuse me, do you have any Grey Poupon?

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daurgo2001@reddit

Glad I get this… haha

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BassProShops_Enjoyer@reddit

at least i know my dinghy could outrun their yacht

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olddoglearnsnewtrick@reddit

Same happened to me when a Wally 100, the Galateia, overtook me from behind. Awesome sight though.

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lykewtf@reddit

He may be looking at you thinking he wished his life was simpler and that he didn’t need a crew and hangers on……. Feel good that you are both in a boat enjoying the water he’s seeing the same sky as you.

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

I really doubt he’s thinking that. The difference between him and me is options. For the record, if I had the option of owning that boat, I’d still have something similar to my 36. I just wouldn’t have to work from it.

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pixel_foxen@reddit

it's not that simple

apparently it's chartered so people who paid for the charter might never had a chance to own their own basic sailboat simply not having time, health or place for that even if having money

suppose it belongs to a single person he can be limited by time and health too

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lykewtf@reddit

I agree with you about options captain, that’s truly something that money can buy.

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

Or the owner hasn’t seen that boat in years and the captain just figured he should shake down the boat every 6 months or so instead of just rotting at the dock.

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3-2-1_liftoff@reddit

Keep right on feeling good about yourself. We saw a $50M yacht which requires a crew of 17 and cost $5M/yr to run—but just like the one you saw, you’d never have the real feel of the helm; never have a sheet in your hands; never really have the feel of the wind & water, and never sit in a cozy cockpit or salon with a few close friends planning out the next day’s sail. Those are ships, not boats.

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NoAbroad1510@reddit

Picturing sitting around a salon with friends and planning out the next days sail makes me want a boat. How awesome.

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

Those boats just make no sense to me, it’s a hotel with a motor. As a hotel I’ve stayed in nicer and as a boat it’s boring- you have to have a captain and it’s really expensive when you break it.

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LowerCourse2267@reddit

Well, the guy’s captain & crew parked next to you.

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

I was talking to some guy that worked on some 200 foot plus monster and he had worked on the boat for a couple of years and never saw the owner but every day bread was baked and the boat was fully stocked just in case the owner did show up. They just moved the boat around the world depending on the season.

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pixel_foxen@reddit

never saw the owner but every day bread was baked

sounds as something from a fairy tale

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youbreedlikerats@reddit

the "who's got the biggest boat game" is one you can never win. so dont feel bad.

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lizerdk@reddit

60+ feet eh?

You’re not wrong

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pedal-force@reddit

The Empire State Building is 100+ feet tall, and the Pacific Ocean is larger than 100 football fields (either kind). I hope this helps.

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-Rush2112@reddit

That looks like a ton of work, nonstop cleaning.

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redwoodtree@reddit

Dinghy by and say hi :)

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Lobotomized_Dolphin@reddit

That boat can't be sailed without a dedicated crew. There's honestly no comparison. It's definitely a very pretty boat, but if I can't single-hand it at all, I'm not interested. I get more jealous when I see a boat that has all the new innovations and is perfect and clean but fulfills essentially the same niche as the one I scraped together everything I had to buy and outfit while still dealing with multiple things that are basically broken but don't have to be addressed immediately.

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creamynute11a@reddit

Huh, small world. I work at a shipyard in Maine where this thing spent more than a year getting a total refit done, I’ve even done some electrical work on her, she’s about 140 feet, built in 2002 iirc

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rocket42236@reddit

Was at the same marina in vineyard haven with them. The crew was real nice.

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napalminmorning@reddit

Been there...we did our intermediate course in St. Martin years ago on a Jeanneau 54 and I thought I was a big deal...then we sailed to St. Bart and our 54 started to feel like a tender

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BehrHunter@reddit

Lol been there done that.

I was on a 47 footer in St Barts. We passed the stern of The [Eclypse Yacht] (https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/on-board-blohm-voss-superyacht-eclipse). Their tender was longer than our sailboat.

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napalminmorning@reddit

In life, one learns that someone always has a bigger boat...

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

Yep we were sailing a 57 footer and everywhere we went we were the biggest show in town and then we pulled into Marmaris and realized how far into the cheap seats we were. Lots of 100+ footers and even Alpha Nero was talking up dock space.

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kenlbear@reddit

Go out on your dingy and say hello. What have you got to lose? Send us pictures of the inside.

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TrojanThunder@reddit

I hate people like this. I find it totally obnoxious and presumptuous when randoms come up and try to get on board. What people don't understand is that a) it's not my boat and b) it's also my home. When the owners aboard it's even worse, especially if they invite someone aboard. It's more work for me and extremely awkward.

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Sea-Oven-7560@reddit

I never try to get on board but I do like to do a lap around the interesting boats. Most of the time if I stop I’ll get a good morning but every now and then I get the “you can be there “ nonsense- you are saying I can’t be in the ocean!? Piss off.

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cuisinart-hatrack@reddit

I admire those boats and I’d love to be invited over for sundowners and a filet mignon with garlic butter and prawns. But I kinda dig my own lifestyle, living aboard and cruising full time. Way less stress sailing and maintaining a 40’ boat than managing an empire. And I can single hand my boat.

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tonyt8005@reddit

If that's the Christopher, they're pretty chill dudes (crew). Came all the way from New Zealand. Met them in Kodiak, AK in July

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ballsack-vinaigrette@reddit

Lol that mizzen is taller than any mast I've ever owned.

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PrionFriend@reddit

This guy extra sailing fr

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Candygramformrmongo@reddit

Small boat. Small problems.

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

There’s a whole crew of people on deck and presumably more inside. I sail my little 36 footer single handed, the idea of having an entire professional crew aboard doesn’t appeal to me for more than a few hours.

I tell myself that’s why I’m in a small boat, anyway. Seems plausible.

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lykewtf@reddit

36 is a yacht to me and far out of my budget. Everything is relative. The guy in the Catalina 22 thinks you have a huge boat

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

Indeed, 36 is big enough for me to be reasonably comfortable cruising around. The two things I feel like I’m lacking are a bigger bathroom and more horizontal space to lay solar.

But when I come into a dock by myself, I don’t wish for a bigger boat.

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lykewtf@reddit

I’m surprised there aren’t more passive hydro power systems for small boats all the energy bobbing up and down any current beneath the boat etc.

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

Moving parts are maintenance. Moving parts below the waterline are expensive maintenance.

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McCaber@reddit

And myself in a dinghy stares longingly at the Cat 22.

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DrStrat773@reddit

I love this—‘my little 36 footer’. What a great size of boat. Seems these larger boats are a whole different experience. I’ve sailed a 53’ with 1 or 2 others and it’s cake. Can’t imagine what needing a crew must be like.

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jfinkpottery@reddit (OP)

If I wasn’t alone, 36 would feel small after a few days. I’d want more like a 45.

Being alone, 36 feels perfect. If I was younger and thinner, I might want even smaller.

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Eddie_shoes@reddit

I’m the same way. My dream boat is a 65 footer. Grew up sailing around half the world on one, and anything more than that would probably require crew. Although I did run into a guy at an anchorage last week single handing his 70ft boat… although I imagine that’s limited to just local stuff in perfect weather.

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Reaper_1492@reddit

How do you single hand a 65 ft boat on a regular basis?

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Eddie_shoes@reddit

I sail with my wife, so I hardly ever single hand. She is quite capable, she can single hand out 36. Her and I could manage a 65ft no problem.

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LaraJaneMcPeek@reddit

Jimmy Buffet said the same thing, he got tired of coming home to a skipper and crew.

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Beelzabub@reddit

Big boat. Small ...

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anarcobanana@reddit

Every time I see these 60+ behemoths my next thought is „how many people will i need to drop a ripped mainsail in 30kt+“

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Strenue@reddit

Truth

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DarkVoid42@reddit

why ? do you also envy those stretch limos when you pull up next to them at a traffic light ?

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kenlbear@reddit

There’s a right way and a wrong way.

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TrojanThunder@reddit

What makes you feel bad?

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Hour-Detail4510@reddit

Lt. Dan?

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ppitm@reddit

Every now and then this sub starts simping for comical superyachts and I realize what poor taste in boats you all have.

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StuwyVX220@reddit

If you don’t compare yourself to others you will find happiness in your own world

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Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit

meh, not a fan of these, they look like they swallowed a motor yacht

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PreMarketGapUp@reddit

It’s great to look at, but I’m content sailing my 35’.

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HalfMoonHudson@reddit

Cold water shrinkage?

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madworld@reddit

Screw that. Imagine the man hours spent just cleaning the bottom. Do you want to go sail alone? Not on this you don't. Would you get as much out of sailing if you paid people to do most of the work? Just the price of the sails are going to be more expensive than most of our boats.

Anyway... this is a charter boat. So the passengers you see enjoying it are paying $90,000 a week. With just eight spots for guests, that's $11,000 a head.

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Admirable-Spinach-38@reddit

Hahahaha it’s 90k just to put a foot on the boat, you still haven’t paid for the food, beverages, fuel and any fees they can throw at you. Ahh and the obligatory tip rated to all the expenses that you have made. so a 90k charter is most likely going to reach $120k. That’s enough money for me to buy a boat and cruise for a year and sell the boat after and still keep some change.

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capitanorth@reddit

food and bev, + tip. Could easily be above $150k when all is said and done.

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IanSan5653@reddit

God damn. $90k would buy an incredible boat that lasts a lot longer than one week.

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SunnyWomble@reddit

"90,000 a week"

Ha...haha....ha..ha..ha...hahahhahah...hahaha haha....

he'll no

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bendersfembot@reddit

See this beautiful sailboat posted here. Click on it, and there's an entire jealousy thread of comments. Don't be jelly

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Tony-the-teacher@reddit

Ah the famous size matters syndrome!

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diekthx-@reddit

Never understood why people waste their limited brain cells on what others have

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3-2-1_liftoff@reddit

Banana for scale?

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scriminal@reddit

Going to need the whole banana boat for scale on this one :)

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bobalou2you@reddit

Looks longer than 60’

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scriminal@reddit

It's 138' according to the other persons link.

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rrickitywrecked@reddit

Looks 70-80 range to me

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LateralThinkerer@reddit

Just when I’m feeling good about myself, this dude ~~parks~~ has his crew park this next to me so I can impress people when I fly in to have dinner on the afterdeck then fly out without having ever set foot on her while under sail.

FTFY

Yeah, yeah, cynical but this does happen.

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digimer@reddit

I sail to get away from people. That doesn't go anywhere without a crew. No thanks.

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MrRourkeYourHost@reddit

That's nice and all but they'll never be able to single hand. They have to plan for days before they depart and it costs them money every day that boat is afloat. You can just go whenever you'd like and for almost no cost. Also, they sweated bullets getting into the Bight. You have a lot more room for error. I'll be out there in a couple weeks myself.

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grambell789@reddit

many years ago I parked my little sailboat at sandy hook Nj for the night, and when I woke up the next morning 5 or 6 big 4 story motor yachts were parked around me. there was pilot houses on the top and there were two parked on either side of me and the two captains were talking to each other over top of me. I had some coffee, swam a couple loops around my boat then took off.

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