Travelling to London soon.. can I use this? I’ve never seen this before.
Posted by purplenut1@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 419 comments
Posted by purplenut1@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 419 comments
Top_Echidna_7115@reddit
Yes, you can use it for absolutely anything you like except in exchange for goods and services
ThatGothGuyUK@reddit
Wouldn't recommend spending a 1984-1988 £20, they go for about £200 in mint condition, so maybe £40-60 for that one.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
This particular £20 note is from 1970. It’s the first issue of the Shakespeare design £20 note which was ‘tweaked’ a year or so later.
ThatGothGuyUK@reddit
You are right, I didn't notice the signature.
Tumeni1959@reddit
You can sell it to a collector on eBay for over £40, per recent sales on there.
Ok-Personality-6630@reddit
And yet it was worth alot more than that when it was printed - in real terms of course.
jake_burger@reddit
About £60 if it was printed in 1985 or £250 if it’s from 1970.
People who hold on to money are just throwing it away.
Wretched_Colin@reddit
I just popped the serial number into this, and it suggests it is a 1970s note, but of no particular interest otherwise.
https://banknoteserialchecker.com/gbp-banknote-checker/
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
It IS of particular interest as the design was ‘tweaked’ a year or so later with minor revisions, mainly colouring. The original ’first’ issues from 1970 are more scarce and therefore more valuable.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
Yes, the William Shakespeare £20 banknote was first issued in 1970.
sporkofsage@reddit
As someone born in the 80s, thank you. My initial reaction was "what the shit is this? It doesn't even have the foil thingy through it"
leoedin@reddit
It’s mad to think how much value in cash people used to carry. We don’t really use £50 notes - let alone if there was a £250 note!
Defiant-Dare1223@reddit
I think it's more mad the other way.
I moved to Switzerland and have used a 1000 CHF note that's worth £900. I currently have a 200 euro note in my wallet.
100 dollar bills are commonly used in the U.S.
The UK has bizarrely low top denominations.
If credit cards didn't become a thing we'd need bigger notes by now.
Splodge89@reddit
The highest we have is £50. And you literally cannot spend them anywhere - even the big supermarkets get jittery about them. Their only real use is transferring large amounts of money between banking institutions - and even that’s on the wane as more and more goes straight electronic.
secretwelshy@reddit
Technically there is a £100 banknote from RBS, and don’t forget about the £100 million banknote lol
Opening_Succotash_95@reddit
There are £100 notes as well, I think only Scottish notes but I've occasionally had people pay in them when I worked in retail.
Accomplished-Sir7724@reddit
You probably caught a few downvotes as you do get £100 banknotes in the UK. I’ve had them a couple of times for birthdays.
Back-Alley-Cat-@reddit
Coins:
https://www.chards.co.uk/2015-buckingham-palace-one-hundred-pounds-bu-coin/2628
Accomplished-Sir7724@reddit
Yes, there are coins and notes. I’ve never had a £100 coin, but I’ve come across the £100 notes a few times in day to day life.
Get_Breakfast_Done@reddit
These must be Scottish notes or something?
Accomplished-Sir7724@reddit
Yes that’s right
agoentis@reddit
Was discussing this yesterday! A £50 in UK will get rejected many places. ATMs in Europe dispense €50 as standard, in Germany €100s. Serious examination in EU begins with €200 notes, which are worth £168. Madness.
parkrunandotherstuff@reddit
I currently live in Germany and from my experience lots of places don't accept €100 notes.
Splodge89@reddit
It is madness. Although am I right in thinking Germany is still very cash based? The UK is trailblazing in terms of card transactions. Outside of parking meters I barely ever use cash lol
wildskipper@reddit
The app only parking meters I'd argue are worse. Every time I use one I imagine the hassle it must be for tourists or elderly people who don't use smartphones much.
Splodge89@reddit
I do agree with you, I have a folder full of parking apps. The benefit I have found however is it makes getting a receipt for expenses reasons loads easier as one gets emailed to me. I can also just park at my local station, jump on the train and pay for my parking - no running about parking meter queuing while the train rolls into the station like I used to (missed a fair few trains when the meter in the carpark I used was broken and had to run to the other one on the other side of the station to get a ticket)
That said, my local station has removed their coin operated machines - app is the only way to pay. The backup of the machine for the people who cannot or won’t use the apps, or who’s phone is having a bad day or hasn’t already got the app is a pain in the ass - if not making it impossible to park!
Noushi_@reddit
You are correct. Germany is very cash based in a lot of places. We always bring cash to Germany when on vacation. I've seen hotels only accept cash, no cards.
Splodge89@reddit
Hotels? But they can be transacting hundreds if it’s more than a night or two. I wouldn’t like to have that kind of cash on the premises lol. Blows my mind.
wildskipper@reddit
This is what businesses all did. Of course, many people would use a cheque rather than notes for something like that. No idea how common cheques were/are in Germany though!
john_le_carre@reddit
The tax cheating makes the risk worth it.
Noushi_@reddit
I was surprised as well! If I remember correctly the hotel room was just under €100 for one night, but we also had dinner there. So the bill was over €100. And no ATM in the village.
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
An there was heavily lobbying to get rid of 50s.
Panceltic@reddit
Maybe because there are £100 banknotes in Scotland and Northern Ireland
Splodge89@reddit
Good luck spending those in England or wales though…
Tetracropolis@reddit
Flagrant misuse of the word "literally".
Back-Alley-Cat-@reddit
hahaha. Indeed. Slickly specious
Back-Alley-Cat-@reddit
We have a £100 coin!
webchimp32@reddit
The main use used to be issuing to exchange students who then got annoyed upon discovering they couldn't spend them.
Splodge89@reddit
Remembering back to my time in retail it always used to be foreign nationals that had them the odd time we saw them. I think a lot of currency exchanges give them out too, as many other countries have no idea we don’t like accepting them and they don’t mind large denomination notes.
crucible@reddit
We used a previous ‘series’ CHF note when visiting Switzerland one year. The waitress at the cafe joked and said she could report us.
In reality they happily took the note, I assume it just gets banked and taken out of circulation at the bank or cash office in much the same way our old notes do.
kai_enby@reddit
Probably depends where you are in the US, I was just in NYC and most stores had signs up saying no bills above $20 would be accepted. I spent my hundreds in a tattoo shop, and successfully spent 2 fifties but the rest I asked my hotel to break into small notes as they would have been hard to spend
Kiss_It_Goodbyeee@reddit
In those days you didn't have a wallet full of £20s. Remember we used to have £1 notes as well so you had 1, 5 or 10 notes on you typically.
sandersonprint@reddit
In Jersey and Guernsey we still have £1 notes!
Opening_Succotash_95@reddit
Technically they're still around in Scotland as well, but I've not seen one in probably 20 years.
sandersonprint@reddit
Here's the Jersey one! I didn't know the Bank of Scotland did pound notes too
spicyzsurviving@reddit
recently I had to withdraw cash to pay a decorator and I NEVER carry or use cash, I was jumpy walking from the bank back to my flat with it in my bag because I was so aware of how much money I had to lose, even though it was very safely in a purse, in a zipped-up inside pouch of my bag. even more illogical when I realised that carrying my card around with contactless payments is potentially even more money (though I suppose you have a better chance of tracking card payments and possibly recovering it?)
mash_enthusiast@reddit
it's not that unreasonable, I mean a card has your name on it, and mine (santander) you can freeze temporarily the second you notice it missing, whereas it's a lot harder to prove that cash was yours if someone just grabs it out of your hands
spicyzsurviving@reddit
yeah you’re right. i guess i know myself enough to know how long it would take me to realise my card was missing. AGES probably, because i never get it out to use it 😂😭
Remote-Pool7787@reddit
It’s mad. People used to walk around with literally hundreds of pounds in their wallets on a bank holiday Friday
JLB_cleanshirt@reddit
I remember our landlord used to walk around with a wad of notes in his jeans pocket, probably easily £500.
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
My landord at uni had two wallets and a envelope with cash. I just couldn't trust myself with that. I probably checked my wallet 50 times going from the bank to the pub to meet him to pay my rent.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
Some of us still do, just in powdered form 🥳
Jestar342@reddit
The coca farmers in South America would like to wish you fun times, but they can't because the cartel butchered them.
iuseemojionreddit@reddit
is it still 6 deaths per kilo?
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
they aim for 7 nowadays, got to keep the peasants numbers under control.
BrummbarKT@reddit
If only there were legal ways to grow and distribute things there will always be demand for that would put the cartels out of business...
Jestar342@reddit
Until there is, you're snorting blood.
BigBadRash@reddit
And most people using phones/computers/cars are benefiting from child slavery in cobalt mines. One of those issues could be solved with greenhouses if most of the world hadn't collectively banned a plant from being cultivated.
Jestar342@reddit
Impossible to live without phones/computers/cars (am surprised you didn't mention clothing given the modern slavery it relies upoin in Bangladesh) in modern western society, yet schneefing is remarkably easy to avoid.
Can you tell we've seen this weak attempt to absolve responsibility before?
BigBadRash@reddit
There are a lot more brands offering ethical clothing so I didn't feel it belonged on the list. The list were for things that are going to be consumed no matter how much suffering it causes to those at the bottom of the production line. Like you said the things I listed are almost impossible for most to live without, so the cost of production is overlooked in favour of an end product that people really want.
You're completely right that we don't HAVE to snort coke, but the demand for drugs is fairly inelastic, no matter the consequences, similar to modern electronics. But unlike modern electronics, where virgin cobalt can only be mined in certain geographical locations, if the plant wasn't illegal it could be grown in greenhouses all over the world. So why do we still chose the path that involves needless deaths?
Jestar342@reddit
I'm very pro legalisation, if that's your concern. Mostly because of my concern for the welfare of those caught up in the production.
However, until there is a safe/ethical production of it, I will continue to remind those who are choosing to fund death and misery for a high that they are doing so.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs 🤷🏻♂️
account_not_valid@reddit
How does it smell?
Jonnyporridge@reddit
It smells of dead south Americans
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
Never sniffed one tbh
Jonnyporridge@reddit
To judge your comment I think you have, just indirectly.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
Each to their own mate and I'm not judging you for it, just isn't my kinda thing
youreatwat174@reddit
Like cocaine probably
deadlocked72@reddit
Smells of keys
MasterBlasterJamm1n@reddit
You are so cool.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
😎
MasterBlasterJamm1n@reddit
Enjoy your laxatives.
doofcustard@reddit
Oh that took me a while....Hahaha
TheDisapprovingBrit@reddit
I have about £500 in my wallet right now, what’s so mad about it?
ExcellentBasil1378@reddit
Google the actual spending vlaue of £500 40 years and you’ll see why
VeganRatboy@reddit
But they aren't carrying it 40 years ago. And the people 40 years ago weren't carrying £500, that sort of figure is only being discussed as after accounting for inflation.
ExcellentBasil1378@reddit
Holy fuck do I have to explain this to every moron on here? People carried £500 regularly back then, that’s worth about £2600 with todays moneys spending power. Now imagine carrying £2600 in your wallet.
VeganRatboy@reddit
Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?
TheDisapprovingBrit@reddit
I’m not planning on keeping it there for 40 years
ExcellentBasil1378@reddit
Fucking hell, money had more spending power back then. Having £500 in your pocket in 1980 is equivalent to having £2687 in your pocket today.
PikeyMikey24@reddit
You don’t understand
Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit
I've usually got a couple hundred on me but don't have much reason to carry £500, not in the UK at least.
An eye opener for me was when I was doing a job at a Uni in Saudi Arabia and used an ATM on campus, the lowest amount you could withdraw was 500 Saudi Riyals - approx £100 in one note. Then I remembered our student areas in Leeds are the only place I've seen ATMs that dispense £5 notes 😂
CyndersParadigm@reddit
Sheffield Interchange has ATMs that give out fivers. Huddersfield Uni used to have two machines next to each other, operated by different banks, but only one gave out £5s. Guess which one all the students used 😅
Flimflamsam@reddit
It’s an easy way to lose £500 in a moment. Not a lot of people can afford that risk, which is why it’s seen as mad.
orbtastic1@reddit
When I earned fuck all back in the 80s I’d draw it out all in one go. That was until someone stole it (or a large % of it) from the office. We had a thief who was pretty sly and used to wait til we were in meetings and not take all of it, just bits. I think it had been going on for months and months. Seemed to stop when we sacked a weird dwarf secretary we had. Switch came out not that long after so kinda made cash pointless for small transactions other than pubs. Only time I’ve taken more than 100 quid out since then is to pay a tradie
ThinkAboutThatFor1Se@reddit
Now we have £1000 phones instead.
llynglas@reddit
Yes, but pre credit cards what was the alternative if you wanted to buy something expensive, say like a set of furniture? Check guarantee cards only went up to £50 originally if I remember.
arpw@reddit
Big purchases would often have been hire purchase in those days.
Recently clearing out my Gran's old stuff, found various hire purchase contracts from the mid-50s. Starter furniture sets worth multiple hundreds of pounds at the time, some stuff was super expensive!
Splodge89@reddit
Bankers drafts were often used if the money was in a bank account (indeed, they still exist, but they’re uncommon). Other than that it was wads of cash. When you could buy a house for like £2k, it really wasn’t as many notes as it is today.
Traichi@reddit
I mean we carry £1,000 smartphones in our pockets just fine.
kh250b1@reddit
Mate, when i left school in 75 i took home 15 a week. I wasnt getting one of those in my pay packet to carry “mad” amounts of money around
Worldly-Employer-745@reddit
If you’re going that far back, there would have been few people regularly carrying around £20+ in their wallet. That was about an average week’s wage. They were that big because they were very important notes.
The percentage of people regularly carrying that amount probably isn’t far off the number carrying around a couple hundred today.
Then there’s the overall value we carry today, which can be in the multiple thousands. Unfathomable to most people in 1970.
spine_slorper@reddit
We also generally use card or bank transfers for large purchases though, I can imagine having £250 worth of notes could be useful for businesses or larger transactions.
Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit
I’m going to sound really stupid… but why would a £20 pound not have been worth £250? Is it just cause of inflation?
SometimesaGirl-@reddit
In 1985 I was saving pocket money for a Commodore Amiga.
I had my money tin stuffed with £20's and £10's.
If those £20's had a real value of £60 back in the day it begs the question on why the current £50 isn't more widespread and in day-to-day use.
Brookiekathy@reddit
Jo Page was chef Cashier 1970-1980 so it's likely on the £200 end of the spectrum
Jestar342@reddit
1970 would have been old money (shillings, crowns, ha'pennies, etc.)
_MicroWave_@reddit
Ah yes.
The old antiques roadshow
"I bought it for £100 in 1970",
"Well now it's worth £200"
"wow!"
freexe@reddit
In the stock market it would have been much much more
Savage-September@reddit
Take it to an antique store and they’ll be happy to take it off you.
2050Newspeak@reddit
Yes - for about £2.50! It’s quite astonishing that some posters here can think it’s worth anything more than face value (at the Bank of England or a retail bank that will accept it). There is nothing rare about this note and it looks in bad condition.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
This note is actually quite rare! It was the first version of the William Shakespeare design £20 note and was only in circulation for a year or two after it was issued in 1970. The design was ‘tweaked’ a year or so later with only minor revisions and the revised design banknote remained in circulation until 1993. So the early originals are by definition more scarce and more valuable.
Savage-September@reddit
To be fair I thought it would fetch for more. But you’re right it’s probably quite a common note.
T0ssa@reddit
EBay will double your money 😉🇬🇧
BeardedSasquatch30@reddit
I’d sell it on EBay for £200! Getting rare to find 1970’s notes
7ootles@reddit
That's a late 1970s series D note, don't take it to a shop or a bank. Consider selling to a collector.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
First issued in 1970!
7ootles@reddit
True, but look at the serial number.
Flimsy-Wishbone-4750@reddit
Ive just had a look here on ebay and found one that sold for £65
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
Yes, it’s one of the first issue of William Shakespeare design £20 notes issued from 1970. The design was slightly altered a year or two later, making these first issues more scarce and therefore more valuable. These £20 notes remained in circulation until 1993.
Kudosnotkang@reddit
Anyone got a year on this? I recognised it , but suspect/hope I’m not old enough . Maybe I just recognise the lass on the front
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
It’s the first issue of the William Shakespeare design £20 note from 1970. The design was revised a year or two later.
SleepyWelshGirl@reddit
These are very old notes, 1980s old and not legal tender anymore. Our notes are polymer now, kind of a plastic paper blend that is hard to rip. You can sell it on eBay or change it for legal tender at a bank or post office, I would use a post office though as some banks are cash free and others won't help you if you aren't a banking customer.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
*First issued in 1970
TrifectaOfSquish@reddit
You can either exchange it at the bank of England or sell it to a collector, these have been pulled from circulation for years so you won't be able to use it to actually buy anything.
KeyLog256@reddit
Yep, in fact London is the only place you can use it, because only the Bank of England will exchange notes that old.
Most banks (if you can find one that's still open) will exchange notes one, maybe two issues previously, but any older than that the BoE is your only option.
PeteyMcPetey@reddit
How do you guys tell how old the bills are,? Just curious as I didn't see a date on the front of the note.
Or is it just because the queen is so young that you can tell?
7MTB7@reddit
Our money is made of a plastic type polymer now rather than paper, so that's an easy way to tell this is old.
That being said, this note in question is ooooooooold. I reckon it was taken out of circulation at least 30 years ago now. There's been at least two versions between this one and the polymer ones we have now
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
This £20 note was in circulation from 1970 until 1993. It portrayed William Shakespeare on its reverse side.
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
Once the custom of introducing historic figures onto UK banknotes was established during the 1970s/1980s, the Bank of England started to include the years of issue on banknotes. They appear - in small print - somewhere on all circulating UK banknotes
-Geordie@reddit
well that note was printed and circulated between 1970 and 1980, dated by the signature of J B Page who was chief cashier of the bank of england.
Whenever the chief cashier is changed, so is the signature, it wasn't permitted to pass any printing beyond the date of office of CC.
BusyDark7674@reddit
The designs don't change that often so you just kind of remember them. We've only ever had 6 designs of £20 note in colour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England_%C2%A320_note
GARRYPHILIP@reddit
My local branch of NatWest tells me that they will exchange ANY outdated banknotes, regardless of age. The cashier told me that very occasionally they have had one of the old ‘white’ fivers handed in - for which the customer received just £5! This particular £20 note was first issued in 1970 and was the first to feature an historic figure on its reverse side. In this case, William Shakespeare. As such, it is worth a lot more than £20 to a collector.
slophiewal@reddit
I worked in a bank until recently and we’d have happily exchanged this for a customer. Just a straight swap.
Thin-Box3975@reddit
Did he have to be specifically customer of your bank to exchange? Once I wanted to change old £1 coin, stepped in the first bank in sight (Metro) and they told me if I do not hold an account with them they cannot do it, which seemed odd enough, is it a rule or they just could not be bothered?
slophiewal@reddit
Yes you’d need to be a customer of that bank. Couple of reasons; it doesn’t make financial sense for a business to service individuals that aren’t customers, they won’t make money from the transaction and you are taking up time and resources and increasing queue times for those that are actually customers (sounds miserable but it’s the way the world is),and also anti money laundering regulations, the bank has an obligation to know who they are dealing with and allowing money to be exchanged without a paper trail carries a risk. I know it’s only a quid but it just makes sense to give a blanket “no”
BlueTrin2020@reddit
Then you send the old one to the BoE?
clarets99@reddit
Used to just add it to your "soiled" pile which were sent back at the end of the month
Help_My_Face@reddit
Did you ever actually "soil" any of them for a laugh? If they're gonna be destroyed anyway, may as well treat your bum.
Top-Phrase-8958@reddit
A royal wipe. How decadent.
BlockCharming5780@reddit
That…. Might be treason……. 🤔🤔
STUP1DJUIC3@reddit
Is it still treason if shes not the queen anymore? On account of the deadness
BlockCharming5780@reddit
I actually don’t know
Technically the only way to stop being a monarch is to give up the throne (or go to war)
…. So the legal precedent is that if queen Victoria (for dramatic example) walked through the door tomorrow, she would legally be the rightful ruling monarch
Meaning Elizabeth is still the queen… and is actually a queen with superiority over the current king
PsychologicalTowel79@reddit
And painful.
pease_pudding@reddit
Better than the new polymer notes though
They just smear it around
Complete_Asparagus85@reddit
Like school toilet paper from the 80’s only with sharper edges
Rhesus-Positive@reddit
Like IZAL
dglcomputers@reddit
But eco friendly, just wipe clean and reuse!
onepintofcumplease@reddit
Yeah they work better if you think of them as more of a scraper than a wiper
Logicdon@reddit
The cocaine will numb your arse.
Monkey-spanker-86@reddit
Is it treason if the royal is dead?
BlockCharming5780@reddit
Dead royals are still technically heads of state
If they are believed dead and are found not to be (in the past)… the older coronation takes precedence
Immediate-Cod-3609@reddit
Just don't perform the ol' Royal Flush
-WigglyLine-@reddit
ELGAR! Why do always catch me at my lowest moments?!
jamisram@reddit
Ah the soiled pile. Used to stink of weed, piss and death. Had some really cool notes over my years working at a bank, even exchanged a bag of shillings.
Original-not@reddit
I worked briefly at a bank in Grimsby. The night safe deposits from the fish market were counted and then went into ‘soiled notes’ in bulk. No exceptions.
Dangerous-Fan7715@reddit
I used to dread opening the night safe box from the local butchers, the notes smelled rank and there was the odd piece of flesh in there….
tmbyfc@reddit
Ew. The extra long rubber gloves must have come out for those
LordEmostache@reddit
What happens once they get sent back? If they're destroyed does the bank keep track of how much there is so they can be essentially replaced with new notes?
clarets99@reddit
I'm assuming they will just write off the notes in their annual balance sheet.
Central banks are constantly creating new notes and adding them into circulation, so it won't be the case that they are replacing those specific notes like for like.
LordEmostache@reddit
I'll have the notes if they don't want them
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
Yeah, certain Banks and organisations can send notes to the BoE to be exchanged. Other Banks will send to those Banks.
Fun fact I learnt when I worked at Debden (where they print notes)
BlueTrin2020@reddit
Must be funny to see pallets of notes lol
skawarrior@reddit
Our town has a 'secret' money burning plant. I've known people who work there who say you quickly get used to seeing literal millions of pounds per week. They see it only as rubbish as it's all bound for the incinerator eventually.
Johnnycrabman@reddit
Sighthill in Edinburgh?
skawarrior@reddit
Nah way further down south in a non-descript town in the Midlands.
No one is supposed to talk about the place but everyone knows, they even undertake all job interviews miles away in Birmingham city centre.
2xtc@reddit
Or heartbreakingly tempting
officialscootem@reddit
You'd be amazed how quickly you stop seeing it as money. Now and again you'd remember that you've just confirmed a count that could easily buy a house, but otherwise it was just bricks of paper you'd put into the safe room.
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
It’s more alarming the sheer number they print, it’s 100s of thousands an hour, each sheet has (varying depending on denomination) 56 notes, they’re about 60cm*60cm so you just get men carrying maybe 500 of these sheets around so they’re carrying round insane amounts of money
CLO303@reddit
I make it £560,000 for £20 notes based on 56 to a sheet, 500 sheets. That’s half a mil being walked across the warehouse.
Timtom1230@reddit
I used to deliver to the company that makes the paper used for bank notes (won't say where for security) but trust me the amount that comes out of that place is mad
tetsu_fujin@reddit
It’s ok. We all know it’s Portals
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
do they make the plastic now or is that someone else?
mc_nebula@reddit
De la rue near Basingstoke?
brakes_for_cakes@reddit
The one in Jays Close, RG22 4BS?
Rocky-bar@reddit
The factory where you turn in at the bottom of a long steep hill?
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
It’s 56 for £10 notes from memory, so slightly fewer for £20 but I’d assume no less than £480k
That’s not including the trolleys with the rest of the sheets on, it’s absolutely insane.
Sadly they don’t let you on the floor.
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Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
An yet they still not allow to play, one me, ten to the bank, 1 for me, ten for the bank.
fairlywired@reddit
As someone who grew up in Debden, I'm sorry.
ideasplace@reddit
I was born there. The guy who lived next door was in BoE security detail and the sisters across the road used to manually found and check the sheets of notes. My Dad (a lithographic printer by trade) tried to get a job there but was rejected for some reason, he had a clean record (AFAIK) but I think it was a closed site (friends and family only).
ideasplace@reddit
Not sure if it still happens there but they used to burn all the old notes at Debden. Every Thursday two identical looking armoured blue lorries filled with money used to come to Debden via the M11 with armed police escort via the M11 one with notes one empty, sometimes taking a different route decided on the morning of the transport. The cash would be incinerated at the plant. I think De la Rue who took over production still did this but I don’t know about now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_La_Rue
Nat520@reddit
I lived in Debden for about 6 months. It was enough.
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
Thank you, I appreciate it.
I wasn’t very clear, but I was only in Debden for 2 days then back to normal!
slophiewal@reddit
Yup
ilikecocktails@reddit
Can I just go to my high street bank? I have some old notes I’ve been meaning to sort out for years, 5/10/20/50s etc just sitting there as they’re out of date
DreamingDrummer60@reddit
You can change up to £200 at a Post Office.
crucible@reddit
Could even come out with £400! :P
“Horizon error in your favour. Pass Go”
slophiewal@reddit
Yep shouldn’t be a problem at all
LucyNZ@reddit
Is it? My dad came over from Canada and his bank gave him obsolete money (paper 20 pounds but still recent) and they all said he needed an account. I couldn't help him because my bank doesn't have a branch near me and my husband's bank is closed all around us as well. We ended up taking cash out of an ATM of my savings and going to my nearest city after he left. Were all these banks being unnecessarily difficult? (I'm a native of NZ living here for over a decade so there's a lot that I don't know)
slophiewal@reddit
No they weren’t, you need to be a customer for the bank you wish to exchange your notes in. My comment states “we’d have happily exchanged this for a customer”.
LucyNZ@reddit
Oh. I don't understand why though, I know that it wouldn't be an issue in NZ or Canada so we were confused
slophiewal@reddit
Couple of reasons; it doesn’t make financial sense for a business to service individuals that aren’t customers, they won’t make money from the transaction and you are taking up time and resources and increasing queue times for those that are actually customers (sounds miserable but it’s the way the world is),and also anti money laundering regulations, the bank has an obligation to know who they are dealing with and allowing money to be exchanged without a paper trail carries a risk.
That being said if your dad had come in when we were quiet and he could provide me with suitable ID i could record alongside the transaction I probably would have changed his notes for him!
AboutToMakeMillions@reddit
Keyword here is customer, i.e if you don't have an account with them they will not exchange it for you.
slophiewal@reddit
Yes, I’ve acknowledged that’s why OP potentially can’t change the note however the comment I responded to was simply stating banks won’t change these anymore, which they will :)
trikristmas@reddit
Yeah, but you need to be a customer. Or did you just change notes for anyone? I had some old notes from family abroad which needed changing out. Tried two branches which were near me for various banks and neither took the notes. Said they only do it for a current customer, so I had to go to my own bank specifically.
slophiewal@reddit
Yep, I did say for a customer.
Smidday90@reddit
Not true, I worked in a branch. Someone brought in old fivers from the 60’s paid them in no problem. They get sent away to get destroyed they’re still worth a fiver.
Wretched_Colin@reddit
Would they not be worth more than £5 to a collector?
Would it be allowed for you to debit your current account for the value of the fivers and keep them for yourself? Or replenish your drawer with cash to the value?
Smidday90@reddit
Yeah I said that to them but they weren’t that bothered, it was their gran’s who died and they were clearing out her house and wanted rid of them.
I would sometimes swap my money for collectible coins but I’d ask the manager first.
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
If they were executor of the will they could get into trouble for not maximising the value of the estate.
PuzzleheadedLow4687@reddit
Most banknotes were very common and therefore of little value to a collector. There were millions in circulation, and probably still is a large supply of most banknotes that would have been in circulation for the past 100 years or more.
Awordofinterest@reddit
Our notes state "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of £5, £10, £20, £50 etc"
This is a fixed figure, no matter the value - it's fixed, to a bank - To a collector, it's art. The value would be whatever they are willing to pay.
The bank wont give you old notes. So if you wanted to keep them, just keep them? They will not add the value to your bank balance though just because they have seen you have it.
I've worked in shops, the say you can't take old notes, yet you can, quite easily. You usually get reimbursed (through insurance, Usually, the banks insurance, after a few months) for fraudulent notes that you might send to get banked.
Wretched_Colin@reddit
I’m talking about a bank teller who is working and a customer comes in to hand over a £5 note.
The customer will gain £5 in value for it, but, if the teller is a numismatist, at any level, he keeps the fiver and puts in £5 from his pocket.
wqzu@reddit
Yup. I also worked in a building society, people would swap out the Beatrix potter or King Charles 50p coins with their own
Revolutionary-Mode75@reddit
So people do that in shops. As long as they knew and you collect the entire collection and store them properly, they might be worth a substantial amount, in 2 to 3 hundred year lol.
Wretched_Colin@reddit
There’s a toll booth on the motorway between Dublin and Belfast. The toll is in Euro and they don’t take sterling. However, I’m told that people working there bring euros with them, a Northern car attempts to pay a €2.50 toll with a £20 note, it is accepted but they get €17.50 in change, then the toll worker swaps the £20 for €20 to keep their cash right. It’s a good side hustle.
Awordofinterest@reddit
Oh sorry I see what you're saying. I'm going to go with nah, there are more cameras on the bank tellers than on the customers. Pretty sure they aren't allowed any cash on them while in their booth area. Once it's in the thing, that's it, you can't ask your boss to hand pick them out for you, even if for an equal/fair trade.
Scotto6UK@reddit
That's because it's pre decimalisation I imagine. At least the bank that I worked at - post decimalisation notes said "I promise to pay the bearer" and so we'd swap. Coins weren't included.
Panceltic@reddit
Decimalisation only affected pence and shillings, the pound stayed the same. The only banknote not denominated in pounds was the 10 shillings (50p), issued 1928-1970.
welshlondoner@reddit
Notes have always had that written on them since 1694 which was a long time before decimalisation.
The promise only applies to the Bank of England, not every bank.
richdrich@reddit
I'm assuming there is a book/website to lookup historic bank note pictures when somebody brings them in.
slophiewal@reddit
There is!
Smidday90@reddit
Nope, if the queens heads on it and says £, feels and look real its good
hammelswye@reddit
My experience is that banks (other than BOE) will exchange old notes only if you are a customer. Assuming OP is from outside the UK, they’re going to need to make a trip to Threadneedle Street.
BartyJnr@reddit
For people out of country, yeah probably correct, however most banks will take them in and send them off for you if you bank with them no matter where in the country.
DubbehD@reddit
So if I live in Southampton I have to travel to London to go to a bank, yeah that's wrong
richdrich@reddit
Has anyone actually visited the BoE to change a note?
It might be an interesting place to see the inside of?
Interesting-Bus9989@reddit
Yeah this is totally untrue! I work in a bank at the moment and we would happily exchange these notes
Arsewhistle@reddit
This comment is proof that redditors will upvote absolutely any nonsense
Blaueveilchen@reddit
I was not aware that these kind of notes don't circulate anymore. I hardly use any cash.
theProffPuzzleCode@reddit
You can exchange it at any bank, no problem.
purplenut1@reddit (OP)
Thanks for everyone’s response!
My parents heard I was going to UK and passed me some notes to spend. That’s how I got this note!
SensibleChapess@reddit
Check it's not a forgery first before taking it into a bank! Hold it up to the light and check for the metal vertical strip and also a nice clear watermark.
£20 notes were very popular ones to forge!
Miglioratore@reddit
An Italian friend of mine came to the UK after over 10 years with this exact note and wanted to pay a round of drinks at the pub. Hilarious scene 😂
TheProfessionalEjit@reddit
How is such a ridiculous suggestion the top comment?
OP can exchange this very easily at ANY high street bank.
WelshBathBoy@reddit
You can only deposit old bank notes, meaning you need a bank account with that bank, a tourist is unlikely to have one. Some banks (Barclays and Lloyds) will exchange, but only if you are a customer. The post office will only exchange the previous iterations.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes
For the note in question and for someone presumably who doesn't have a UK bank account, BoE is the only option
TheProfessionalEjit@reddit
This is incorrect.
As a semi-regular visitor to Britain, I have had to deal with having out of date notes in the past. Last time was a fistful of old £20's.
I went to a Lloyds & exchanged them quite easily, no account required.
vizard0@reddit
Will the Bank of England do old Scottish/NI notes also?
nemetonomega@reddit
Was wondering that myself, as far as I am aware the Royal Bank of Scotland, the Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale Bank all issue their own bank notes. So would the notes have to be sent back to the relevant bank as there is not one central bank that prints notes like in England/Wales?
wildskipper@reddit
They all accept deposits using each others notes so I would think any would exchange them.
Millsonius@reddit
Correct, I am 28 and have never seen one of these notes. But any legal tender that isn't accepted anymore, can be exchanged at a bank
ConflictOfEvidence@reddit
I am 48 and remember this style from when I was a kid. It's from the 70s/80s.
hd_cartoon@reddit
The Post Office will let you put it into you're bank account. Not sure if they will just exchange it though.
Practical_Marzipan65@reddit
Don't take it to the bank you'll get less than it's worth...it's so old tho...like when I was a kiddo old
jd5842012@reddit
That's literally a Page signature replacement (M prefix) £20. Very rare items and definitely worth above face.
gogginsbulldog1979@reddit
As long as you also have a DeLorean, yes.
VerbingNoun413@reddit
Interesting. It's not the old paper note- I'm guessing it's a style before that. Probably by a bit judging by how young Liz looks
No store will accept it. Banks will, though I'd see if this is worth more than face value.
Where did you get it?
GaryJM@reddit
It's a Series D note, issued between 1970 and 1993.
Whoa_This_is_heavy@reddit
Going to be from the early 70s to 1980 given the signature.
marquess_rostrevor@reddit
OP is Doctor Who, confirmed.
bloodyedfur4@reddit
sorry to inform you things from the past end up in the present quite naturally
InfectedByEli@reddit
*The Doctor
verdantcow@reddit
Dre?
Haystack67@reddit
Who am I even talking to? Oh yes, you!
DrWhoGirl03@reddit
If he’s not called BBCtv’s Doctor Who, explain his exciting adventure with the Daleks? Checkmate liberal
InfectedByEli@reddit
Lol.
DrWhoGirl03@reddit
Yeah, yeah, we’ve all read the trial of doctor who
Round-External-7306@reddit
Dr Who?
Martipar@reddit
It depends, they might be Peter Cushing's character.
InfectedByEli@reddit
Oh no! I've been out-pedanted.
Touché mon brave 🤣😂
rabbidasseater@reddit
This note has been issued between 1970-80 as the chief cashier was john page between those dates
thegoosebelow@reddit
A great innings tbf.
pix1985@reddit
Majority of banks won’t take it, Bank of England is the only place to take them nowadays
jade333@reddit
They will, but might insist on paying into an account rather than just swapping it.
TrustyJules@reddit
I did it back in May and it was no problem for a single note - incredibly long wait time though.
dm_about_my_8inch_d@reddit
They might do one, a suitcase full of them might provoke a few more questions.
slophiewal@reddit
A bank would exchange it but it sounds like OP doesn’t have a UK bank account and they would only do it for customers
North_Dog_5748@reddit
Golly. I'm 47 British, and don't even recognise that.
TheAgentWatchingYou@reddit
Don't know about collectors, worth checking. I'd definitely be surprised if you find a shop that takes them. You can indeed swap it at the Bank of England but I think their counter service is very limited, so do try normal banks and Post Office counters. I work at a bank and yes, most banks will tell you that you need an account, but honestly if you say it's just the one and you're a tourist... Most of us would happily just swap it if the boss isn't watching.
RepulsiveMetal8713@reddit
You would be better off selling this to a collector, it’s in good clean condition and no pen marking or stamps over it
Ambitious-Soil504@reddit
£20 went a lot further in 1985
Artistic_Data9398@reddit
Damn. Money so old queen look hot
LSBeasyas123@reddit
If you also Go back in time 30years you’ll be fine
martinbean@reddit
That makes two of us. And I’ve lived in the UK for all 35 years of my life 😄
Icy-Musician-6309@reddit
The new £20 notes also have Charlie on them
KRibbonz@reddit
If it were me I'd sell that
cap-nbutkiss@reddit
Are you coming in a Time Machine?
Electrical_Speech_73@reddit
keep it or sell it, i think the bank will only exchange it for £20 and that thing is probably worth more than £20 these days because of collectors. if it isn't worth more than £20, go on a life mission destroying all other notes the same to raise the value a bit/lot! good luck in your quest 🤝
sleepyprojectionist@reddit
What’s the story behind this note, OP? How did you happen across a bank note that has been out of circulation for over thirty years?
Opposite-Scheme-8804@reddit
Be very surprised if it wasn't a similar one to mine. My grandparents didn't believe in banks so when we were clearing the house after my grandma passed away, we found notes hid in silly places and there were a few like this
crucible@reddit
My Gran was a bugger for that - Dad and my aunt went through every book in the house page by page after she passed. Just in case there was £40 here, or £10 there…
Defiant-Dare1223@reddit
Why are all old people like this where they don't believe in banks but bizzarely do believe in central banks not inflating their cash away. My grandmother was the same
crucible@reddit
Partially explained by a reduction in local banking over the years - my grandparents could collect their pensions from their local post office until it closed.
Eventually they moved to things being paid into the bank, but they missed having to go and cash that cheque in.
Varvara-Sidorovna@reddit
My poor dad had to rock up to the the headquarters of the Royal Bank of Scotland with a rucksack full of pre-decimalisation and outdated banknotes from a deceased relatives house that had been squirrelled away between 1948-2015.
It was incredibly traumatic for my dad, incredibly time-consuming for him and the bank staff, and incredibly frustrating for everyone who knew the deceased. The relative in question had been pretty poor, had always moped about not getting to go on holiday, and being unable to replace carpets, etc, and all the while had £50,000 sitting in hat-boxes and tea caddies...
Wise-Hurry-4394@reddit
I really don’t understand people behaving like this. Or worse like my aunt who isn’t even old (51?) and she brags about how much cash she has in the house and how much she makes but she’d do things that make her look poor.
So she avoided paying when she’s dining with her kids, her husband (now ex) and my parents when it was her turn. When it was my parents turn to pay the night before however, she’d order really expensive items like lobster or duck. Or she’d get my cousin to buy her supplies for her salon, but not pay him. He asked nicely about the payment then she said my grandma would pay for it (like why????). Then gets mad at him afterwards. Considering she’s always bragging about how much money she has, she should have paid him and some more for all the trouble.
She also brings up shit from 20 years ago to rant about. Everyone avoids her like a plague 😵
fsv@reddit
I went to the US in 2014, my parents mentioned they had a bunch of American dollars from when they'd last been there - in the late 1980s. So it might have been something like that.
Thankfully, unlike the UK, US currency never is invalidated, so I was able to spend the money without any issues at all even though none of it (apart from $1 bills which still haven't changed since the 60s) were current issue notes.
okaythiswillbemymain@reddit
That's pretty cool to be fair. I'd like to be able to use old money.
cguess@reddit
A substantial amount of the budget whenever the US bank notes are redesigned is a massive PR and information campaign around the entire world to explain and assure people that old dollars still work, since it's such a rare policy, but $USD are used all over the world for day-to-day transactions and savings.
Adventurous-Ad5262@reddit
It sure is, it was nice receiving a 25¢ coin from the 60s
fsv@reddit
There's always the last-ditch option to exchange old banknotes at the Bank of England, who will exchange any note for a current one, no matter how old it is.
Many regular banks will accept recent-ish ones to pay in.
Even though the US system is convenient, I think our system is better overall. Imagine you're a counterfeiter in the US, it'd be so easy to ignore current series notes with all their security features and produce faked notes from a generation or two back, knowing that they were still (imitating) legal currency.
With our system, you've got that fallback but you're only relying on one institution to inspect notes that might be decades old, and not relying on individual shopkeepers from knowing the nuances of ancient notes' security features.
RikardOsenzi@reddit
The closest the United States has ever come to invalidating currency were the Hawaii overprint notes during World War 2.
fsv@reddit
Fascinating, I'd never heard about those. Thanks for sharing!
alloftheplants@reddit
Probably just not from the UK and either them or a relative visited yonks ago and kept it from then. Slight possibility of being from a country with a very unstable currency where people try and buy foreign currency because it keeps its value (like Argentina).
I had a job for a bit in an airport coffee shop and it was really common to get tourists trying to pay with old coins or withdrawn notes.
purplenut1@reddit (OP)
Quite on the contrary. I’m from Singapore. Back then this would have been around 70 SGD, but now it’s about 34 SGD as the pound of devalued quite a lot. We just keep foreign cash lying around lol
3lbFlax@reddit
Some time in the 80s our grandparents gave me and my sister a collection of unused notes and coins from some old holidays - can’t remember where but Malta or Yugoslavia would be my guess. We checked in the paper and found it was about £50 worth, meaning we were both rich, rich I tells ya. We bussed it into town and queued up at the Bureau De Change with big plans - we could see it on the board! - only to learn of course that what we had was defunct and worthless. A harsh lesson in economics, but our grandparents’ generosity made more sense at least.
purplenut1@reddit (OP)
Got it from my parents! No idea where they got it from but our family keeps foreign currencies in case we travel back to the country. I’m guess this was somewhere at the bottom of the drawer
Hulbg1@reddit
It’s actually worth more to a collector
veexdit@reddit
You’ll need to get a bigger wallet for those old notes, or screw it up and put it in your pocket like the good old days. It won’t fall out like the new plastic shitty ones do! I think it might even be worth £20.01 by now
nels2812@reddit
Definitely sell to a collector that's worth much more than£20 in todays money!
bucknubian@reddit
Was expecting it to read twenty poonds
Few-Surround-7289@reddit
Ready to buy for 21 pounds. Bargaining is accepted)
dazlees@reddit
Just take it to a bank and change for a new one
Agitated_Expert_4694@reddit
Nah you’ll have to exchange it. Also, a heads up mate, she’s dead.
PineappleNerd66@reddit
I was behind a French family getting onto a bus and they tried to pay using a similar aged note and the bus driver was very apologetic but had to refuse it.
SensitiveLobster3896@reddit
That’s worth about £100 fyi
Old_Promotion_4227@reddit
I could give you £20 note that you can use - if you willing to sell it me
Bill_Zeebub@reddit
Serial number M04 makes it collectable, its a Replacement note for one that didn't make it through quality control at print. Has value if in good condition. EBAY it and see what happens.
BlueDrPepper@reddit
Don’t use it. Keep it
National-Dealer-9350@reddit
I'll pay you £20 for it 😂
bt1789@reddit
Bruv... Judging by how young our late queen looks on that note, I doubt you'll buying anything with it.
Best bet is to stick it in a frame and pass down to the grandkids
PralineUpset7888@reddit
That actually looks like a replacement note due to the M04 serial number. Definitely worth something to a collector in that case, but not in fantastic condition. Don’t have access to my reference books at the moment, but can look later to check.
TheNaasti@reddit
It reminds me how my dad gave me shillings amongst a bunch of other coins when I first travelled to England on a school trip
Gulbasaur@reddit
Shops will not take it; it was withdrawn from circulation about 30 years ago.
Banks will also generally not swap it - they may let you pay it into an account, so if you're staying with someone see if they can pay it in and give you the cash back.
You will technically be able to exchange it at the Bank for England, although it's almost certainly not worth the hassle and the time if it's just £20.
www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes
locklochlackluck@reddit
Occassionally shops will take it, as they can just deposit it like normal currency at the end of the day and the bank will do whatever it does with old notes. The risk to the shop is fraud really, as it's more likely an old note will be fake.
jodilye@reddit
You might be able to spend it if you find a newbie!
I had a colleague take a ten pound note of this style, around 2012. He was a SMART kid, very academic, but had no idea this note wasn’t legal tender. We had a good laugh and stuck it in the banking for the main cash office to deal with.
I still think about it because it was before I started collecting coins/notes and I definitely would trade it for a current tenner now!
Organic_Chemist9678@reddit
If they are in London it takes about 5 minutes, if that, to swap the note.
parkylondon@reddit
Yes. Go early for even quicker result.
gwynevans@reddit
You can exchange at the BoE by post, although it’ll take 3 months or so!
tak0wasabi@reddit
These are from the 1970s. They’ve been out of circulation since the 1990s. Go to the Bank of England by Bank tube station and exchange them. It’s a lovely day out and you can go to the museum for free when you’re there.
Ok_Cable7358@reddit
I’d try to sell to a collector will get more then £20 for it
Just_Bluebird_5268@reddit
give this to a bus driver
SingerFirm1090@reddit
As others have said, exchange at the Bank of England, while there visit the museum, it's free. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/museum
K1ngJabez@reddit
I'll meet you in London to trade it for a modern £20 happily.
HoloDeck_One@reddit
Sell it to a collector, you’ll get more then the face value
heatdapoopoo@reddit
you can't buy anything with that, not just because it hasn't been legal tender for years either.
tetsu_fujin@reddit
The queen looks so young in that picture.
False-Freedom@reddit
Judging by the signature, that's a 1970 note as John Page was Chief Cashier between 1970 and 1980. You won't be able to spend it anywhere as it's no longer in circulation, however you can take it to the Bank of England and swap it. I wouldn't recommend that though, as banknotes from the 70s are wanted by collectors and whilst they may not make you a fortune, they go for more than the £20 the BoE would give you.
WBCSMFer@reddit
I think you'll find pal, that's legal tender
Flat-Package-4717@reddit
Exactly. Even though that's supposed to be a £20 note, if you actually buy something with that you're paying possibly thousands of pounds just for something like a pack of cigarettes.
Flat-Package-4717@reddit
When was that made? It belongs in a museum at this point.
JuniorSentence@reddit
Here’s a bit of info about what you’ve got there: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes
KeyCress9824@reddit
No! Did you not hear she died. This would be seen as utterly disrespectful. Only currency with the face of the ruling monarch is legal tender.
iiS4R4HxXx@reddit
I don’t think I’ve seen it either, but go to the bank and get it swapped i still get people trying to pay with the old pound coins and kicking off when I tell them we can’t accept those anymore
FredH3663@reddit
That note is outdated and no longer accepted
TinyMeanPotatoo@reddit
how old is this
KindLuck4543@reddit
That note is so old Ronnie Kray probably snorted chico with it
Tokus_McWartooth@reddit
I would hold on to this and sell it. I'd imagine it'd be fairly valuable when queen face notes are more scarce
lucasadtr@reddit
If you can't be bothered, put it in a charity box. Same goes for British people with left over holiday money you won't get enough for to make it worth your while. They'll still get money for it
bgBoosho88@reddit
Aint nobody seen that mf for 50 years💀😭
Evilnight007@reddit
Man’s got a piece of history
NORFIE1234567@reddit
What year is this from? I don't recognise it.
bollockstoreddit@reddit
Anyone old enough knows how to fold that to get the queen doing something very rude.
Future_Direction5174@reddit
I worked in a supermarket, and I would accept Kiwi 20p coins. I would then swap them out when we counted up the till at night and keep them. I even accepted farthings as 1p coins, cos I liked them.
You would be surprised how much some coin collectors will pay for old or unusual coins. The same goes for old notes. Worst comes to worst, you can exchange notes for face value at a bank so you don’t lose anything if they are “no longer valid tender”.
I will admit that the 1,000 ruble note my son was given by a classmate in 1994 is possibly worthless. But hey! It’s different!
wantsomebreakfast@reddit
When I was a kid and had the occasional pound note I’d pay attention to the Chief Cashier signature, to check if it was Jo Page or DH Somersett (I think?) - the former was on the older, fluffier notes and the latter was on new, crisp ones. Ah, the days before the internet.
CaleyAg-gro@reddit
Take it to a coin shop, they will give you more than £20 for it. There is one at 20 Cecil St. just off Charing Cross Road, opposite Leicester Square.
MechGearRex@reddit
Probably still easier to spend in a shop than a Scottish note.
Gta_xbox___@reddit
Will the bank there ever take the old pound coins lmao i have so many
Bungeditin@reddit
Ask on r/paper money before getting rid…. I know a little bit about coins/tokens but nothing about notes.
DMMMOM@reddit
BoE counter is your only real choice unless you know someone with a UK bank account as you can still pay these in. It's only 20 quid though, won't even cover 2 west end pints.
BitcoinMoonLanding@reddit
Sell it on eBay to a collector.
fr3yababii33@reddit
Can deposit these into your (Uk) bank account at the post office. Saw a fair few when I worked there. Even saw a couple of pre decimal notes.
Brave_Wish_4725@reddit
That will be with a lot more if you keep it
Timtom1230@reddit
Holy shit, I thought the dinosaurs were extinct?
That things ancient 😂
DandyLionsInSiberia@reddit
According to the bank of England "withdrawn banknote" database, The above iteration of banknote was issued originally in 1970 and remained the standard bank of England £20 note until around 1991..(It ceased to be legal tender in 1993)
They're selling for around 40-70 GBP (depending upon condition) on eBay..
Setting aside the complete phasing out of more recent paper notes in favour of polymer notes.
The above ceased to be legal tender 30 years ago. No shop or business has accepted it as an acceptable mode of payment for over three decades..
You can either exchange it in a UK bank for a more recently issued note of equivalent value , sell it to a collector or keep it yourself to serve as a memento of the era it was originally issued.
Confused_Gengar@reddit
OP is either trolling or unaware that note is useless tender to shops
Cautious_Grapefruit4@reddit
very old nice 🙌
danger0usd1sc0@reddit
JB Page! How I remember him from my £1 notes!
insana_4@reddit
Exchange with me, I will be happy to have one of those for my mom!
turboRock@reddit
If you're in london anyway, check here https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes Theres a pretty decent museum in the bank too. Has one of those 12.5kg gold bars that you can try to lift (at arm's length).
Alternative_Injury17@reddit
if you live in the north east area i would swap a new 20 for it a straight swap
rs-heritage@reddit
It is a series D £20 note that was introduced 9 July 1970. It was withdrawn on 19 March 1993, but like others have said it is exchangeable at the Bank of England.
medlilove@reddit
Jesus Christ 🤣
Ancient_Context_3538@reddit
I can’t work out whether the queen is annoyed or about to crack up.
They are being sold on eBay for above face value.
DinosaurInAPartyHat@reddit
Sold or listed?
A lot of stuff on ebay sits for weeks, months, even years.
Ancient_Context_3538@reddit
Sorry to clarify I meant being sold rather than have sold.
InfectedByEli@reddit
She doesn't look amused.
Top-Bet1435@reddit
Prince Philip was making faces behind the photographer
unskathd@reddit
Yeah no place in the UK will accept the note. Bank of England on Threadneedle St in London will easily exchange them. I did this and it was a very smooth process; it's a heavily secured building though so you may have to go through layers of security!
bobothegreek2@reddit
Money?
piper_perri_vs_5guys@reddit
I will be happy to pay you £50 fir that £20 note
enositis26@reddit
I would try putting on ebay for collectors on a bid. Minimum price £20
lorekeeperRPG@reddit
eBay saying 100 odd quid for collector
Gazuba@reddit
Call into any UK bank branch and ask to swap it. They may not if you don't have an account, but it depends entirely on who you speak to at the counter. These notes are rare nowadays, so I'd recommend that you look to sell to a collector though, as you'll likely get above face value. There's no need for you to send it directly to the bank of England yourself.
inide@reddit
Put it on ebay, you'll get more than the face value.
Moraiz90@reddit
Whats the value of 20 when it was printed till now ? If you know what I mean im a silly goose
Gits-N_Shiggles@reddit
This makes me feel old
New_Original_Willard@reddit
The Queen looks young.
InfaSyn@reddit
I'm in my mid-late 20s and I've never seen that style of note in my life. Im guessing that was pulled from circulation in the 80s. Youd need to either go to a bank and exchange it or sell it to a collector
Glockass@reddit
Most likely not, that's a Series D £20 note, they were introduced in 1970 and withdrawn in 1993, so 30 years too late. You could exchange it with the Bank Of England, but you'd likely be better of selling it to a collector.
Fun fact, this series of note was first issued just before decimalisation, so it's subdivisions wouldn't have originally been just pence, but also shillings and farthings. And £20 in 1970 would be worth £266.61 today.
verminV@reddit
Ok so, try to use in in pubs/shops, and just plead ignorance and wind them up.
"Oh, but its £20, I thought I could use that in England? Do you guys use Euros now?"
PharoahZCurse@reddit
Don’t trade it in, sell it online.
Pattoe89@reddit
You an have it exchanged for a £20 at a bank but it's best kept at this point or sold to a collector.
£20 will buy you next to nothing in London. Maybe a shop will let you look at one of its products for a few seconds for £20.
Nearby_Acanthaceae_7@reddit
Idk how accurate but with a quick search it's worth a bit of money. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155291263858
bezostinks@reddit
I’d keep it that’s pretty cool
hartlandking@reddit
Haven't seen one of those for a long time! When £20 was a significant amount of money....
sf-keto@reddit
OP, the UK is largely cashless now. I've lived here for 3 years & have yet to touch any money other than a £1 coin I use for museum lockers.
99.5% of everything is tap to pay.
Enjoy!
ubiquitous_uk@reddit
Stick it on eBay, you'll easily double your money.
18havefun@reddit
I doubt you could use this when I born over 30 years ago but the bank may be able to exchange it.
DandyLionsInSiberia@reddit
Paper bank notes were phased out a number of years ago, the deadline beyond which they became absolute tender was in 2022..
They're no longer considered legal tender and conversely would be refused by shops or business as a mode of payment.
You can however either exchange it in a UK bank for a note of equipment value or sell it to a collector. (Or keep it yourself as a memento from a past trip abroad).
BalianofReddit@reddit
Not a chance, this is what? 4 iterations of the currency ago?
FreddieMiles2024@reddit
Yes, but only at this one Greggs in East Croydon
J_Scottt@reddit
Honestly, save that thing, it may have a huge value in many years.
Nipplecunt@reddit
If u send it to me I can verify it
DandyLionsInSiberia@reddit
Paper bank notes were phased out a number of years ago, the deadline after which they were no longer accepted as legal tender was in 2022..
It's no longer legal tender and won't be accepted in any shop or business.
You can either exchange in a UK bank for a note of equipment value or sell it to a collector
Dwengo@reddit
Christ, look how young our sweet queen is in that
Ollie2220@reddit
Sell it to Baldwin and Sons on the strand! They’re coin collectors
Competitive_Pool_820@reddit
There’s been about 3 notes issued since then.
Mighty_Buzzard@reddit
Old £20 note. William Shakespeare on the reverse side. Hold onto it or sell to a collector.
tykeoldboy@reddit
That looks like a fake £20 note with a picture of Danny La Rue on it. Take it to bank and they will exchange it for a new £20 note or give it a William Hill, they take notes and coins
No-Alternative-4850@reddit
Sell it on eBay or exchange from bank
gazchap@reddit
Unless I'm being blind, that's old enough that it doesn't even have the EURion constellation on it, amazing.
Kat8844@reddit
I think you’d have to swap it at a bank, that note is very old!, I can’t ever remember seeing one that looks like this.
cookj1232@reddit
Could see if any collectors will have it. It hasn't been legal tender since 1993.
ARobertNotABob@reddit
From Wikpedia : John Brangwyn Page (died 2 February 2005) was a British banking executive who served as the Chief Cashier of the Bank of England from 1970 to 1980. The signature of the Chief Cashier appears on British banknotes.
So this was printed between those dates.
robinbg88@reddit
They’ve been out of circulation for over 30 years, you’d need to send it to the Bank of England for exchange.
Thehitmanhoops@reddit
Cash? Can’t use cash in england buddy!! CARD ONLY - didnt you see the sign?
Same_Ad8783@reddit
Unless you go to your local takeaway then it’s cash only as it’s easier to track for the taxman ;)
ColtAzayaka@reddit
I'm a collector in London, would gladly swap it out with a new one for you hahaha. Probably a new one and a bit!
angel_0f_music@reddit
No, you won't be able to spend it. It's probably from the 70s (judging by Google Reverse Image Search) so the bank won't accept it either.
SpaTowner@reddit
Your note is a ‘Series D’ £20. From what I can see on the Bank of England website, this must date from the period 1970-1984. Although that design was issued until 1993, after 1984 it was issued with a visible metal strip as an anti-counterfeiting feature. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknotes
You can exchange them, but you will have to do so either at one of the 47 Post Office branches that do exchange rather than deposit into an account. You do seem to be able to exchange by post also. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes
I see people are suggesting they may have value to collectors, but I’ve not (in a very quick search) seen any valuations. It might be worth your exploring that.
ServerHamsters@reddit
That's an OLD ONE
cmzraxsn@reddit
Don't use or swap it, definitely try and sell. It's not in good condition so won't fetch masses of money but you should be able to get more than £20 for it.
biggusdick-us@reddit
Del boy will give u a tenner for it
Tharrowone@reddit
Hey OP I will legitimately buy that off you. I don't have an old £20 only a £5 and £10.
MysticalMaryJane@reddit
Exchange in a bank over here, I would preface it with I have no idea if it is real or counterfeit to avoid any bs. If they ask you were given it by parents/grandparents/family when they heard you were going here. 20s are very commonly faked over here so just incase
sal_lowkie@reddit
U can sell that
Working-Limit2504@reddit
No but can I buy that off of you for £50?
GenericRedditor7@reddit
Don’t use it or swap it at a bank, try to sell it first. There’s people that pay good money for antique notes that aren’t in circulation anymore.
augustandyou1989@reddit
Maybe keep it for a collection to sell it at a later time. I wish I kept mine.
Snoo3763@reddit
As long as you're also travelling back in time about 40 years you'll be golden.
Thin_Formal_3727@reddit
You can, but you will need to exclaim "this is legal tender" to complete the transaction.
Humble-Astronomer396@reddit
Yeah you can use that 40 years ago
Stuffedwithdates@reddit
Let me guess you used an American bank. They are clueless.
HeartyBeast@reddit
If you are time-travelling, sure :)
FcukTheTories@reddit
I’d be very surprised if any shop accepted this.
You could probably make a few quid selling it on ebay.
AubergineParm@reddit
Keep it! That’s collectible now and not useable in any store.
You could trade it in at a bank, but it’s worth more than face value now so many as well hang onto it.
eu_b4_uk@reddit
Just change it at the exchange bureau at the airport when you arrive in the UK. They’ll take it and swap it for a current £20 note without any charges.
Picnata@reddit
Does anyone know when these were in circulation?
Ok-Mud6955@reddit
Series D (1970-1993)
7ootles@reddit
Within that, the Chief Cashier's signature is that of John Page, so 1970-1980.
JimmyBallocks@reddit
you can use this if it's 1983
DeapVally@reddit
Probably worth more than £20 tbh. Worthless to a shop, or anyone besides collectors, but I'd probably sell it if I were you.
simmyawardwinner@reddit
lovely picture of liz
Greatgrowler@reddit
You can’t use it but they go for about double the face value on eBay, depending on condition etc
Accomplished-Salt797@reddit
Lol yeah sure
Zolana@reddit
You can swap it for a new one at the Bank of England.
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