Context matters. Look at what I was replying to

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thebirdmanTX@reddit

I imagine even this was just a result of post-9/11 patriotism

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More like The Shrub basically told America that if a Democrat got in office another terror attack like that would happen again. Nevermind the fact that plenty of people tried to tell Bush that something was brewing before the attack but he ignored them because they were holdovers from Clinton's administration, particularly Richard A. Clarke. Just think, if Gore had won instead of Bush it's very likely 9/11 could have been prevented. How much better a place the world would have been.

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RevealEquivalent3427@reddit

oh Gore, the guy who supposed invented the internet.. heh heh.

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noncongruent@reddit

He never said that, and he never claimed that. Republicans made that up out of thin air.

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RevealEquivalent3427@reddit

At this point, that is no longer a surprise...

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noncongruent@reddit

Gore is a tech geek and proponent of new technology, though. That's what led him to create and push through the High Performance Computing Act of 1991:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_Act_of_1991

The Gore Bill helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser in 1993, the commercial Internet's technological springboard credited as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s. Andreessen later remarked that 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened ... at least, not until years later.'

Gore reiterated the role of government financing in American success in a 1996 speech when he, as vice president, said, "That's how it has worked in America. Government has supplied the initial flicker—and individuals and companies have provided the creativity and innovation that kindled that spark into a blaze of progress and productivity that's the envy of the world."

Even today, based on the latest census numbers, the top-10 states (by population) would control the entire election (assuming uniform voting distribution). It is clear that the founders believed States, as separate entities, should have a heft say in the national government, per the design of the E.C. and original design for the US Senate.

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ImOswin@reddit

Here's the thing. I remember quite distinctly being taught in high school (in a rural town in northeast Texas, in the late 1990s at that, so not liberal education at all) why our founders designed Presidential elections that way. It is because they did not trust the common man to pick the "right" candidate. So they created the electoral college so electors could decide who to vote for if they disagreed with the vote of their people.

Since then, states have further changed that process. We're not even using the electoral college that was created at the damn founding. Winner take all states weren't the norm. Instead the elector represented the same region as the congressional district. So why shouldn't a district that votes different from the majority of their state not get a vote?

Some states don't even allow faithless electors like was envisioned. Which frankly nullifies the whole point of this system in the first place.

PrimarisShitpostium@reddit

In the last 35 years is stretching terms. There have only been 8 elections in that time frame, with Republicans taking four with two of those by popular vote.

So, a 50% win rate, with a 50% popular vote win.

PomegranateFamous947@reddit

It’s take illegals 3-6months to become legal citizens, so most of those who entered illegally probably already have legal status, and guess what, there’s a guy who keeps threatening to kick them out so yeah, I’d been voting for the party who was threatening to kick me out as well.

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Zealousideal_Guava85@reddit

LMFAOOOO tell me more about how you have no immigrants in your family ! 3-6 months in what world 💀😂 shit can take years you clown .

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PomegranateFamous947@reddit

lol it took me 20sec to google that I can even screen shot it for you, you wanna send me something of the latter I’ll happily look at it

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Naive-Significance48@reddit

OK then provide your source? Just so we are clear, greencard is not the same as full citicenship. You can aquire full citicenship through naturalization after holding a green card for 5 years. (I'm seeing this 5 year number in multiple spots here is a link to a law office, I feel like that is reputable) https://www.rosinalaw.com/inmigracion/how-long-does-the-naturalization-process-take/

Greencard is just a Lawful permanent resident. Lawful permanent residents cannot vote. (US government site) https://www.usa.gov/who-can-vote

You know I am going to be really upset with you if you just spewed misinformation everywhere... right?

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PomegranateFamous947@reddit

https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-citizenship-after-applying/#:~:text=The%20processing%20time%20for%20naturalization,several%20steps%20before%20becoming%20citizens. This was the first link I saw, there’s another that said 3-6

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Cold-Movie-1482@reddit

google does not actually reflect the reality. it absolutely takes WAY, WAYYYY longer than 3-6 months.

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PomegranateFamous947@reddit

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Deep_Razzmatazz2950@reddit

Most of the educated world leans left. Only people who grow up in isolated communities and are brainwashed by the people around them lean right

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squashua1983@reddit

This is the truth. Most conservative republicans I know are spending time with family not on social media. Most left liberals I know are consumed with social media because they fall for the climate change scam or whatever other big gov propaganda and think being married and having a family is bad for the environment

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Deckard2022@reddit

Most of the western world leans left. Even right wing governments such as the Conservative Party in the UK would be considered left by republicans.

Which is insane, and a warning just how demented Trump republicans are.

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PrimarisShitpostium@reddit

“Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity…in the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches, and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.”

Antonio Gramsci, his theory of cultural hegemony.

You have no idea how left you are.

The "Trump supporters" are largely not Trump fans. Other than a small minority, most Republicans are NOT siding with Trump but AGAINST KAMALA and the misguided policies she promotes.

Is it hard to figure out why states on the Southern East Coast are not getting the help they need in a timely way from the Federal Government? FEMA has plenty of funds for hotels, free healthcare, etc. for migrants from all over the world but, have NO MONEY for storm victims.

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beerme81@reddit

Non-citizens cannot vote in the election, and no disaster funds have been diverted. Instead, Trump and his allies are referring to the Shelter and Services Program that saw FEMA disseminate hundreds of millions in grants from Customs and Border Protection to municipalities that saw an influx of migrants.

That program was a separate funding source with a separate purpose covering separate years – and not relevant to the current hurricane recovery efforts.

Meanwhile, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson said Sunday he had no plans to bring lawmakers back from recess before the election to address requests for additional disaster relief as Hurricane Milton approaches the Florida coast as a Category 5 storm.

Once again, the Republicans could fix this issue by having Congress vote on more funding for FEMA. But they won't because just like immigration... They want to use it for political gain instead of helping the American people.

Shocked Pikachu faces all around...

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WizardryFather@reddit

Non-citizens are counted in the census, and provide electoral college seats to the states in which they reside. You know damn well they count in the election, or you’re just an idiot.

You also know damn well that those funds used for migrants should have never been approved, and should have been saved for the citizens that actually pay into our system.

But no, you’re going to blame it on the guy that said no, we aren’t going to vote to allow you to waste more money on more migrants so you can dangle a carrot to hurricane victims. Stop being such a disgrace.

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StormsOfMordor@reddit

Damn, it sounds like we should abolish the Electoral College bc that sounds like some 3/5ths shit. People are counted in an area, whether they can vote or not, and count towards electoral college votes, so we should just get rid of it.

It’s also crazy that we could have had more federal funding to the border in May with more agents and judges to process immigration cases, but the Republicans needed something to be failing to show the “incompetency” of a liberal government.

Also crazy that the bill they wanted granted an extra $10B to FEMA but instead of negotiating, Congress decided to go on recess.

If there’s another bill that did something else, link it to me but I know of Moskowitz’ bill before recess and the border act of 2024.

Good point about the Electoral College votes.

Most people don't associate the CENSUS count of migrants in the allocation of Electoral College Votes.

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WizardryFather@reddit

Right, most people don’t realize it’s a thing, because they were too busy calling Trump a racist when he tried to stop it.

Just another reason he really was an America-first president.

You do realize it takes two sides to disagree and block something right?

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KnotiaPickles@reddit

I don’t even know why this cursed Dallas subreddit is in my feed, thank god I never have to actually go to Dallas.

I have better things to do than argue with Texans. You guys are basically a lost cause. Our country is being ruined because of the incessant vitriol, bitterness, and arguing. I can’t wait for things to go back to the way they were before Trump.

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WizardryFather@reddit

You’re literally the reason for that, because you’re arguing without actually understanding what you’re talking about. That’s literally the vitriol you speak of. And I’m not a Texan.

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buckln02@reddit

These guys don't read

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Successful-Form4693@reddit

mega corporations and billionaires rain supreme while the poor and working middle class get enslaved.

Right, and you realize trump cut taxes for large corporations and increased them for poor folk like you and me? And he will do it, again as he's literally said multiple times.

But y'all will just blame it on the left. The amount of times we've saved your ass from some absurd policy change is insane. We'd actually be fucked if we weren't a democratic republic.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Right, and you realize trump cut taxes for large corporations and increased them for poor folk like you and me?

No. why would i realize something that never happened? I got my tax cut from trump and it helped me immensely. (You got it too, btw 😉 even if reddit tells you otherwise)

And he will do it, again as he’s literally said multiple times.

Yep! Cant wait. I need to keep more of my earnings to keep up with kamalas inflation.

But y’all will just blame it on the left. The amount of times we’ve saved your ass from some absurd policy change is insane. We’d actually be fucked if we weren’t a democratic republic.

yeah itd be horrible if we had 30% less inflation, 2 less wars, 1 less invasion at the border, less institutional racism, and first amendment rights. oh, the humanity 😱 what would we ever do without democrats?!

lol its always up to conservatives to drag democrats, kicking and screaming, into prosperity, justice, safety, and less racism.

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SmurfSmiter@reddit

Like the revolutionary war, where revolutionary progressives dragged conservatives into a new nation. Or the civil war, when progressives dragged conservatives into abolishing slavery. Or word war 2, when progressive democracies defeated the conservative Axis powers. Or the civil rights movement, where progressives stopped conservatives from treating minorities as second class citizens.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

isnt that astonishing? the last time “progressives” progressed was the civil rights movement: sixty years ago. since then it’s all been regressive. pretty soon there’ll be nobody left alive who remembers a time when progressives actually benefited society instead of working to plunge it back into darkness. fascinating how conservatives became the progressives in that way. conservatives are working to conserve civil rights, while progressives are working to regress society

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SmurfSmiter@reddit

Damn those regressive progressives with their universal healthcare and high quality educations.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

yeah damn them with their institutional racism and anti-science nonsense and anti-justice and pro-violence! if only california and new york could get their property crime and violent crime under control like iowa or florida!

actually it doesn’t matter though. people that live in California and new york can just move. that’s why those states are hemorrhaging so many people lately.

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SmurfSmiter@reddit

Rallying against “Institutional racism” by siding with the group that doesn’t believe it exists.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/09/01/trump-systemic-racism-ebof-vpx.cnn

Called anti-science by the group that doesn’t believe in science.

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2023/11/14/americans-trust-in-scientists-positive-views-of-science-continue-to-decline/

Called pro-violence by the states that solidly hold 6/10 of the most dangerous states (2/10 are swing states and 2/10 are solid blue including your beloved California).

Called anti-justice by the group who have a convicted felon running for President.

And California’s homicide rate is so close to Florida’s that it was lower for 2 of the last 5 years on record, and New York’s homicide rate IS lower than Florida’s. And California’s is lower than Texas’.

Conservatives don’t live in reality.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Rallying against “Institutional racism” by siding with the group that doesn’t believe it exists.

I dont care whether they think it exists or not. The only thing that matters to me is that they oppose it. Obviously we know it exists. Grutter v Bollinger was real. Disney’s “diversity standards” are real. Those leaked and we can see that private institutions are racist. Biden picked a scotus on the basis of her race and gender, so we know democrats are in favor of institutional racism. Republicans got rid of grutter v bollinger so we know they oppose institutional racism.

Called anti-science by the group that doesn’t believe in science.

They at least are more pro science than democrats. Hell, democrats dont even believe in the most basic biology anymore. They dont even know what a “woman” is! That science has been settled for a loooong time and democrats reject it. It’s also incredibly sexist so we know democrats are insanely sexist.

Called pro-violence by the states that solidly hold 6/10 of the most dangerous states (2/10 are swing states and 2/10 are solid blue including your beloved California).

They prosecute the crime! That’s more than new york and california can say.

Called anti-justice by the group who have a convicted felon running for President.

As opposed to the current President who should be a convicted felon but isn’t because he’s part of the protected class and is protected from justice by the justice system? That’s not the flex you think it is 😂

And California’s homicide rate is so close to Florida’s that it was lower for 2 of the last 5 years on record, and New York’s homicide rate IS lower than Florida’s. And California’s is lower than Texas’.

Now do property crime 😉

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SmurfSmiter@reddit

There it is. Question the beliefs long enough and they always devolve into bigotry and conspiracy theories.

“Racism is real but it’s against white people.”

“Trans people don’t exist.”

“Democrat states don’t have homicides because they don’t count them.”

And last but not least, literally: “I know you are but what am I.”

I do admit, it must be nice to live in a world where reality conforms to your beliefs and not the other way around.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

There it is. Question the beliefs once and you’ll find out they actually love racism… so long as it’s directed at the “bad skin color” they dont like 😉

“Racism is real but it’s against white people.”

Racism is racism. doesnt matter who the victim is. the fact that you think racism against certain skin colors is good shows how racist you really are.

“Trans people don’t exist.”

hey you said it, not me!

“Democrat states don’t have homicides because they don’t count them.”

hey you said it, not me!

I do admit, it must be nice to live in a world where reality conforms to your beliefs and not the other way around.

By most western standards the Democratic Party in the US is slightly right of center. The USA has a uniquely skewed view of what Right and Left is

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RyukHunter@reddit

By most western standards the Democratic Party in the US is slightly right of center.

Holy Eurocentrism...

Only by western European standards. They are a minority when it comes to the world population.

There are whole ass continents you are ignoring.

The USA has a uniquely skewed view of what Right and Left is

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-warnings-from-democrats-about-project-2025-and-donald-trump

okay heres my source, so lets grab some highlights... SHALL WE.

To distance himself from Project 2025 amid the Democratic attacks, Trump wrote on Truth Social that he “knows nothing” about it and has “no idea” who is in charge of it. (CNN identified at least 140 former advisers from the Trump administration who have been involved.)

so... he knows at least 140 people involved with it, but is not involved himself? i find that hard to believe when he 'completely handed over' the same batch of classified intel two times *that i recall

The Heritage Foundation sought contributions from more than 100 conservative organizations for its policy vision for the next Republican presidency, which was published in 2023.

AGAIN. over 100 organizations. not people. GROUPS. but he somehow 'doesnt know whats going on' in regards to something that would heavily benefit him if hes reelected?

However, Project 2025 contributors include a number of high-ranking officials from Trump’s first administration, including former White House adviser Peter Navarro and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson.

people trump is connected to just keep popping up, dont they?

I agree. Conservatives has always known democrats can control the weather and have space Lazers. It's crazy obvious!

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DrBIackout@reddit

How is that, in any way, relevant to my comment?

when it comes to misinformation and single issue voting... ima say the republicans are the big issue again. i have been watching this seasons political ads....

left: hey, this guys got a bad opinion on the border crisis. maybe elect me instead?

right: THEY WANT TO FORCE YOUR KIDS TO BE TRANSGENDER. THEY WANT TO FORCE TRANSGENDER SURGERIES ON SOLDIERS. THEY ARE KILLING BABIES. THEY WANT IMMIGRANTS TO- *insert awful thing here*.

these are all actual ads ive seen. its all flowery language and barely hidden, but EVERY republican ad ive seen has foxused on either: immigration, abortion, or transition surgeries, and attacking their opponents for supporting it

Meanwhile democrat ads are literally 'this is what my opponent believes in. this is what i believe in. please vote for me' compared to the rights 'LOOK AT THEM. THEY ARE MONSTERS. NOT LIKE US RIGHT GUYS HAHAHAHAHA'

on top of that, if you actually look at it, areas with higher education are vastly more likely to vote democrat than republican. are you really trying to tell me that people smarter than us are being fooled but somehow, someway, at our level of dumbassery (yes, OUR not YOUR, we are all dumbasses here) somehow managed to 'see through the cracks' and see their misinformation? hell, even republicans have, IN INTERVIEWS, outright admitted that gerrymandering was the only way they could win any more elections. do you understand what that means? it means dividing sections of the country up for the electoral college, into districts. these districts are wonky as fuck because ALL politicians are trying to cut the pie so that more of 'their' voters are in the district, so they get reelected

All of this said: im not just blindly ragging on republicans. i think the entire two party system is destroying our nation and allowing unqualified people like trump and biden to grab power. between gerrymandering, the electoral college, and reelections, politics in america is no longer about doing the job, but keeping the job. we really just need to eliminate the electoral college, gerrymandering, and general lobbying/gifts/donations to politicians.... anywho, yeah, regardless of what you believe, america is one of the furthest right countries in the world despite have so many left leaning individuals due to our fucked up election system

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Dick_Lazer@reddit

Intelligence is measured by IQ, and largely unaffected by education beyond even just partially high school. Any licensed psychologist can tell you this. So no, we do not "both know I would be wrong."

IQ is actually malleable throughout a lifetime and positively correlates with greater education.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6088505/

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DrBIackout@reddit

Correlates, yes. Like any muscle, the more you use it, the stronger it can become, but education isn't the only thing that can accomplish that. That's like saying "only pushups can strengthen your chest," but we all know very well, there are multiple ways to exercise your chest muscles.

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neolibbro@reddit

lol okay bud. If that makes you feel better, have at it.

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Dick_Lazer@reddit

Kamala Harris' schtick is literally getting dumb, uninformed people to vote for her.

Did he not suggest nuking a hurricane?

Did he not sell beans from the White House?

more than half of the crap you spouted is easily proven to be utter nonsense

Well then surely you are prepared to disprove it. If it's easy to disprove then do it.

Care to share the republican plan to increase taxes on low income families and defund social programs increases my purchasing power?

It sounds like you disagree.

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LevelDry5807@reddit

This would also make my point. Times they are not a changin

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MithranArkanere@reddit

If conservative subreddit mods didn't ban anyone who disagrees with their easily proven lies and they didn't keep spreading misinformation to the point reddit admins have no choice but to quarantine or ban their subreddit, maybe there would be more of them around.

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Vegetable_Cry_1912@reddit

Or maybe it’s the fact that this is one of the deep corners of the internet liberals hide in and this is a liberal dominated platform every sub Reddit bans people for stupid shit I got perma banned out the barbering subreddit for “not being professional” when I was asking how to blend and I’ve for sure been banned from other subreddits where libtarted people hide and have been banned for calling them out nothing special or different about what happened with you this is the only platform I’ve been on where there’s enough of you to shit on trump and conservatives go outside there’s not that many of you just seems like a lot cause yall are huddled up in the same place

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MithranArkanere@reddit

You have not used a single punctuation sign in your entire diatribe.

It’s definitely a liberal echo chamber. Anyone who supports trump is a fascist, racist homophobe.

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DFWRailVideos@reddit

Anyone who supports trump is a fascist, racist homophobe

A claim that is mostly false as far as his tenure in office is concerned. And the $5T estimate is just that, an estimate (from people that don’t like him very much).

Regardless, I agree that conservatives need to practice what they preach as far as government spending. They tend to be just as bad with unsustainable corporate welfare as the liberals are with unsustainable social welfare.

"They're eating the dogs, they're eating that cats," Trump regarding the Hatians in Springfield Ohio. And multiple Republicans spewed this racist rhetoric.

How is this not racist?

Before you say, "The ducks, the grilled cats," here are some links debunking those claims.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/13/are-haitian-immigrants-killing-ducks-in-springfield-ohio/75207072007/

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-vance-trump-ohio-6e4a47c52b23ae2c802d216369512ca5

My one side is the truth. I get all my info as divine providence. You trust people that wish they could tickle the orange man’s balls.

ALoudMouthBaby@reddit

On Reddit the times are not a changing. 9 out of 10 opinions slant liberal

You must be new here to think that, Up until four years ago Reddit hosted one of the largest communities of Trump supporters on the internet. It was one of the most highly censored spaces on Reddit where only pro-Trump opinions were allowed, yet despite all of that its members constantly screamed and threw site wide tantrums about how it was actually them that were being censored. And as if the heavy censorship wasnt a problem they used there rather substantial echo chamber to spread some of the weirdest misinformation you can imagine.

Dallas-ModTeam@reddit

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The homeless aren’t homeless because they don’t have a home. They’re homeless because they can’t take care of themselves, or refuse to. Do you understand what happens when you just give homeless people a house? It becomes destroyed. Every single time. I encourage you to read anything about the topic and maybe you’ll have a realization.

Further, how do you propose to get people those things. That’s my point.

You say taxes. Okay, what that really means is every American citizen is threatened with violence and incarceration if they don’t abide by the government’s made up rules. And that sounds like freedom to you?

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Reddituser183@reddit

That’s why prevention is key. That’s why we house and feed the body and minds of children and give them ample opportunity to live and thrive and produce. And frankly many are born into poverty. So it needs to start there. But I’m not saying everyone gets a house. But they should not go without shelter. Not only that but again healthcare and an education system and mental health system that works. These will all be funded by taxes. The opposite of these policies will only increase the number of homeless. So you think that eliminating social services will cause people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

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WizardryFather@reddit

I think eliminating social services leaves people with the option of taking care of themself. It is not the responsibility of your neighbor to take care of you. And if you want to use the argument of oh, then my neighbor better watch out because I’m poor and hungry, then yes, the logical conclusion is your neighbor should protect themself and their family against you, even if you’re starving. Planting food isn’t hard. Building shelter isn’t hard. People are fat, poor, and lazy here. How do you explain that?

I'm borrowing this forever!

I've noticed lately every post now has "people" complaining about the left slant of reddit.

lmao his own party said they wouldn't vote for him because he isn't white

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Educational_Bed_242@reddit

Did you miss Vivek’s huge run?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

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WizardryFather@reddit

Oh I’m sorry do you guys only acknowledge Indian people as minorities when they pretend to be black?

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Educational_Bed_242@reddit

You might want to stretch a bit before jumping to such big conclusions, you're gonna hurt your poor self.

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WizardryFather@reddit

Just calling it like I see it. Someone in 2024 Vivek is a white supremacist and Kamala is a strong black woman. Those are the words of the left. Make it make sense for me

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Educational_Bed_242@reddit

Someone in 2024 Vivek is a white supremacist and Kamala is a strong black woman.

Those sure are words.

I don't know what point you're attempting to make. You're saying somebody online had an opinion you didn't agree with? Is this your first fucking day on earth?

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WizardryFather@reddit

Apparently you have a hard time understanding the views of the modern left. No one would blame you for that, because none of their views make any sense.

Tell me how Vivek is a white supremacist and Kamala is a black woman.

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yeah, it’s just a bunch of overpaid gen Z being told to say anything they can, true or false, to make “magats” (what a shit nickname) look “evil”.

Not really when you consider that millions of people support a litteral treasonous felon.

Donald Trump's involvement in the fake electors scheme and efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results constitute several high crimes against our country, including:

Treason (18 U.S.C. § 2381): Attempting to overthrow the government or impede its lawful functions.
Sedition (18 U.S.C. § 2384): Inciting or engaging in rebellion against the United States.
Conspiracy Against Rights (18 U.S.C. § 241): Conspiring to deprive individuals of their constitutional rights.
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding (18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)): Interfering with the certification of electoral votes.
Conspiracy to Defraud the United States (18 U.S.C. § 371): Engaging in deceitful schemes to undermine the electoral process.
Subornation of Perjury (18 U.S.C. § 1622): Encouraging false testimony or statements.
Attempted Election Fraud (52 U.S.C. § 20511): Interfering with the federal election process.
Violation of the Electoral Count Act (3 U.S.C. §§ 1-18): Attempting to alter the electoral vote count.

These allegations are based on Trump's actions and statements, including:

Pressuring Vice President Mike Pence to obstruct the certification of electoral votes
Promoting false claims of election fraud
Supporting the fake electors scheme
Inciting the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot

Investigations and potential indictments are ongoing. Trump has maintained his innocence, but the evidence gathered by various committees and investigators suggests serious wrongdoing.

Sources:

Department of Justice
House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack
Various court filings and testimonies

No project 2025. I'm voting Jill Stein, actually. Green party. Anti-genocode party.

But anything non project 2025 is extremely hopeful.

These allegations are based on Trump's actions and statements, including:

Pressuring Vice President Mike Pence to obstruct the certification of electoral votes
Promoting false claims of election fraud
Supporting the fake electors scheme
Inciting the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot

Investigations and potential indictments are ongoing. Trump has maintained his innocence, but the evidence gathered by various committees and investigators suggests serious wrongdoing.

Sources:

Department of Justice
House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack
Various court filings and testimonies

Twitter is a private entity and could regulate itself as it sees fit. And, while a political party pushing censorship on such a platform is wrong, it's not only democrats who do such things, sadly. Arguably, Republicans take it a step further in terms of banning books, as one example. However, I will read more into the Twitter files because you have piqued my curiosity.

What is more disconcerting is this statement, from the then-president (Trump): “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution..."

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Twitter is a private entity and could regulate itself as it sees fit.

when people reference 1A rights, they’re referencing government censorship, not private companies.

And, while a political party pushing censorship on such a platform is wrong,

correct.

it’s not only democrats who do such things, sadly. Arguably, Republicans take it a step further in terms of banning books, as one example.

if “book bans” = “banning some books from elementary schools,” like republicans are pushing for, then book bans are supported unanimously by both parties. i dont know of any democrat that would support stocking Mein Kampf or “The Poor Man’s James Bond” or “The Terrorists Handbook” in elementary school libraries. That would be an insane policy to support.

However, I will read more into the Twitter files because you have piqued my curiosity.

Its wild to me that some people still aren’t familiar with the twitter files. To me, it’s the biggest scandal of my entire lifetime. It literally dictated that truth couldnt not be posted online. The twitter files are just the tip of the iceberg. It gets really dark once you find out about the trusted news initiative, biden’s failed “ministry of truth,” and zuckerbergs latest testimony about his regrets about censoring speech.

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Door2DoorHitman@reddit

Do you have any good links on democrat leaders or officials specifically coercing Twitter to censor or ban info? So far, what I have read indicates that nothing was super out of the ordinary because both political parties routinely have takedown requests and such.

“It was strange to me when all of these investigations were announced because it was all about the exact same stuff that we had done [when Donald Trump was in office],” one former top aide to a senior Trump administration official tells Rolling Stone. “It was normal.”

"In interviews with former Twitter personnel, onetime Trump administration officials, and other people familiar with the matter, each source recalled what could be described as a “hotline,” “tipline,” or large Twitter “database” of moderation and removal requests that was frequently pinged by the offices of powerful Democrats and Republicans alike."

https://archive.ph/RJa9d

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

yep: https://x.com/jim_jordan/status/1684957660515328001?s=46&t=hkjamlWeQ4BorIpWV6__ig

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Door2DoorHitman@reddit

Interesting! Im definitely torn because I think misinformation is not good, but if the administration was trying to exert such influence, then that is not great. While Meta could have refused or approached it differently, having the president's administration breathing down your neck might not feel like you have a choice, so that can definitely be problematic.

Any from the "Twitter Files" regarding things like Biden's laptop and whatever else the GOP was saying was censored?

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

yeah it’s definitely scary.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/former-twitter-execs-house-committee-removal-hunter-biden/story?id=96979014

https://x.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857649153413120?s=46&t=hkjamlWeQ4BorIpWV6__ig

what’s interesting to me is that “misinformation” and “disinformation” were never issues before the 2020 election. up until that point, the government allowed free speech and it was up to the people to do their own research and determine what is true and not. 2020 marked the point where the government decided to step in and determine for us what is acceptable to talk about and what is banned.

hell, i still remember when the “lab leak” was banned. now we know it’s most likely true of course… but i definitely got banned back then just for mentioning it. not even claiming it was true.

it’s frightening how much damage democrats are able to do once they reach for the proverbial censorship gun. sometimes i wonder if the 2020 election wouldve gone differently if free speech had been allowed at the time. hell, maybe we wouldn’t have so much inflation and the invasion at the border and multiple wars and all that. or maybe we still would. regardless, i dont see a scenario where government censoring free speech leads to a better society.

Misinformation might be bad, but not as bad as the distrust sowed by government censorship. We’ve entered hyper conspiracy theory territory now, and I gotta say, I totally understand why. If you spent the last 4 years wondering why the government censored all the true information you wanted to discuss online and deemed it all “conspiracy”… welp, now you’re gonna get way wayyy more conspiracies. Hell, over the last four years the conspiracies have had a more trustworthy record than the government and the biden/harris administration.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Prove it. Prove it or be quiet and just support the treasonous pieces of shit in silence. It's funny how you all "know" all these things but can't prove shit in court. Even with Trump's appointed judges.

He was declared an adjudictaed rapist in the E. Jean Carroll case. That means that a court found him to meet the evidence needed to be declared a rapist. That's why he had to pay her millions of dollars.

You are experiencing cognitive dissonance, so it doesn't matter how factual what I say is.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Prove it.

special counsel already did. you just wont acknowledge it because it would destroy your fragile world view youve curated in the echochamber.

Prove it

special counsel already did. you just wont acknowledge it because it would destroy your fragile world view youve curated in the echochamber.

or be quiet

no

and just support the treasonous pieces of shit in silence.

no

It’s funny how you all “know” all these things but can’t prove shit in court.

special counsel already did. you just wont acknowledge it because it would destroy your fragile world view youve curated in the echochamber.

He was declared an adjudictaed rapist in the E. Jean Carroll case. That means that a court found him to meet the evidence needed to be declared a rapist. That’s why he had to pay her millions of dollars for saying she was lying.

then why wasn’t he charged with rape and sentenced? you probably never asked that question because it would destroy your fragile worldview youve curated in the echochamber.

You are experiencing cognitive dissonance, so it doesn’t matter how factual what I say is.

and more importantly, it doesn’t matter what you say because you’re a delusional fascist cultist who has no concept of reality outside of what the Benevolent Cult tells you to think.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

The special counsel investigation by Hur, who was requested and appointed by the white house, ended with no charges being reccomended because Biden returned all of the documents that he took.

Trump, to this day, has not returned all of the documents. That is the treasonous part.

You need to look into the E jean carrol case yourself, because you are grossly misrepresenting it like everything else. He wasn't charged with the crime of rape, because that's not what the case was about, and it was past the statute of limitations.

The case is about whether or not Trump slandered Carrol by calling her a liar. In order to rule on that , the court first ruled had to find is Trump rsped her or not. It was proven that he did. That is why he's an adjudictae rapist but was never charged.

You are just simply wrong on every point. You ahevnithibg but words and opinions on your side. I am simply telling you what Trump has done.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

The special counsel investigation by Hur, who was requested and appointed by the white house, ended with no charges being reccomended, and Biden returned all of the documents that he took.

bingo. the report concluded that he was guilty, and recommended no charges.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

During the investigation, Biden was helpful, open, and invited them to his home. He also returned EVERYTHING that was missing.

Trump stonewalled his investigation. It took months for him to actually start addressing the requests.

Furing the actual retrieval of the documents, Trump repeatedly lied about having returned all of the documents, and to this day he still has not returned all classified documents. He stonewalled the government every step of the way.

How can you honestly say these two situations are the same? Trump literally still has not returned the classified documents and was uncooperative. Biden was cooperative and returned everything.

Let's say that we lock up Biden for this, how much longer should we lock up Trump since he lied and obstructed the investigation all while NOT returning everything?

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

During the investigation, Biden was helpful, open, and invited them to his home. He also returned EVERYTHING that was missing.

CORRECT. Clear admission of wrongdoing. Clear evidence of wrongdoing. no charges.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

https://apnews.com/article/trump-justice-department-indictment-classified-documents-miami-8315a5b23c18f27083ed64eef21efff3

How can you think the two situations are even remotely the same?

Trump is a treasonous pos. You're not a bad person for supporting him.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

because it’s literally the same exact crime. If trump is supposedly guilty of obstructing, what is he obstructing? what crime did he commit? careful how you answer… because if you say “withholding classified documents” then im immediately going to ask you why biden wasn’t charged.

think about this logically: 2 different people are guilty of murder. one obstructs and hides the evidence and flees the police. the other person turns himself in. you’re literally advocating for zero charges and zero sentencing for the murderer because he… cooperated with the investigation? when has that ever been the standard? since when have crimes gone unpunished because the suspect cooperates with the investigation?

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

The crime is not returning the documents. That's why your shitty example of a murder scenario is shitty. It does not translate.

Why is it so hard to understand that?

In regards to the documents, Trump is still breaking the law at this very moment. Biden is not. That is the difference.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

The crime is not returning the documents.

no. the crime is having the documents. that’s illegal, correct? careful how you answer. because if you admit that it’s illegal - which it is - im immediately going to ask you why biden wasn’t charged.

Why is it so hard to understand that?

Because you’re deliberately ignoring biden’s crimes

In regards to the documents, Trump is still breaking the law at this very moment. Biden is not. That is the difference.

Ok so if you admit that Biden committed a very serious crime, why isn’t he being prosecuted?

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Dude, for the Nth fucking time, Biden and Trump BOTH committed a crime in keeping documents. Nobody is denying that. Nobody is ignoring Biden's crimes.

You are ignoring that Trump went several steps further and committed high crimes that amount to treason. It is not the same no matter how much you feign ignorance.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Dude, for the Nth fucking time

can it.

Biden and Trump BOTH committed a crime in keeping documents. Nobody is denying that. Nobody is ignoring Biden’s crimes.

YES, the justice system is ignoring Biden’s crime and paying attention to Trump’s crime. Like you said, they both committed a crime. Either they both get charged for it, or neither of them get charged for it.

There is absolutely zero scenarios in which i will support one of them getting charged for that same exact crime, but not the other. It’s not happening. Equal justice, or no justice.

You are ignoring that Trump went several steps further and committed high crimes that amount to treason. It is not the same no matter how much you feign ignorance.

You literally just admitted as much. Scroll up lol. You literally just said they both committed the crime. If Biden isn’t being charged, then neither should Trump. If you want to charge trump, you have to charge biden. Equal justice, or no justice.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Both Biden and Trump kept documents. Neither of them were charged with a crime regarding this. Where is the favor?

Trump went further and stole some documents which still have not been returned. Trump has not been charged with a crime. I would say the favor is for Trump.

Please explain how the system is favoring Biden when Trump hasn't gotten charged for anything even though he did something way worse when he decided to not return all the documents.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Both Biden and Trump kept documents. Neither of them were charged with a crime regarding this. Where is the favor?

? source? trump wasn’t charged for each one of the 32 documents he had, via the espionage act?

Trump went further and stole some documents which still have not been returned. Trump has not been charged with a crime. I would say the favor is for Trump.

I would disagree.

Please explain how the system is favoring Biden when Trump hasn’t gotten charged for anything even though he did something way worse when he decided to not return all the documents.

why? there’s no point in explaining hypothetical scenarios. trump got charged, therefore biden should get charged.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

This is what I mean whey i say that you don't address anything. You are simply showing what you tell yourself to keep being able to support a treasonous felon. You are showing us the mental gymnastics you go through, but you do not address anything of Trump'd wrong doing.

We've established that Biden withheld documents. We also establish that Trump did the same BUT HE ALSO STONEWALLED THE INVEATIGATION, LIED ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS, SHOWED THE DOCUMENTA TO PARTY GOERS, AND HE STILL HAS NOT RETURNED ALL DOCUMENTS.

Please, for the last time. What do you think should be Trumps punishments for obstruction Justice and still not returning documents?

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

This is what I mean whey i say that you don’t address anything. You are simply showing what you tell yourself

To be fair, i didn’t tell myself. The report told me.

to keep being able to support a treasonous felon.

Youve got your treasonous felon and ive got mine.

You are showing us the mental gymnastics you go through,

To be fair, i didn’t do the mental gymnastics. The report did.

but you do not address any of Trump’s wrongdoing.

and i wont until Biden’s wrongdoing is addressed. equal justice or no justice.

We’ve established that Biden withheld documents. We also established that Trump did the same BUT HE ALSO STONEWALLED THE INVEATIGATION, LIED ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS, SHOWED THE DOCUMENTS TO PARTY GOERS, AND HE STILL HAS NOT RETURNED ALL DOCUMENTS.

then WHY ISNT BIDEN BEING CHARGED FOR THE SAME EXACT CRIME TRUMP COMMITTED? If withholding the documents isnt a crime for Biden, then it’s not a crime for Trump. If trump committed no crime, then what is he supposedly obstructing?

Please, for the last time. What do you think should be Trumps punishments for obstruction Justice and still not returning documents?

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

The crime of treason is not returning the documents and showing them to people. Why do you not understand that? This isn't my opinion. It's a matter of legal statute.

You are under the impression that I am calling Trump treasonous because it sounds good, but he fits the legal definition due to his actions surrounding jan 6th and the election. Biden does not. No matter how shitty of a president he is, he cannot be proven to have violated high crimes as Trump has.

If you like AI, go and ask them about the fake electorate scheme and if Trump knew it was illegal. This is really why I call Trump treasomous.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

The crime of treason

What about the crime of having classified documents unlawfully at a private residence? couldnt help but notice you cherry picked crimes you trump is guilty of and ignored the crimes the report concluded biden is guilty of.

If you like AI, go and ask them

well there it is ladies and gentlemen. Lol good God no wonder… i was like, “how can somebody be this delusional?” welp, it turns out his source is ai chatbots 😂 hey while you’re at it, ask AI if it’s more damaging to say the N-word or murder 6 million innocent Jews lmao.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

For the last time, why hasn't Trump returned all of the documents and why did he show them to people at parties?

All you can do is laugh and resort to what about isms while once again not addressing the issue.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

For the last time

can it. you lost all credibility with the “last time” nonsense the last time you said “for the last time.” this aint the last time and you know it. it’s just “another time” 😂 🙄

why hasn’t Trump returned all of the documents and why did he show them to people at parties?

how am i supposed to know? im not trump

All you can do is laugh and resort to what about isms while once again not addressing the issue.

if you’re not approaching the justice system with whataboutisms, then you’re the problem. equal justice or no justice.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Wow. That's your answer to defending a treasonous individual? Idk I'm not Trump.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

nope. that’s my answer to the question you asked. you didn’t ask me why I’m defending a treasonous individual. you asked me why trump showed the documents to people and why he didn’t give the documents back. try to keep up please

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-special-counsel-b5589ea8f066ede51c8138665f108f7a

Here, since you're not able to think critically when it comes to Trump

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

i already read the report. you should too. although i doubt youre able to comprehend what it says. you’re reading comprehension is bad.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Also, an old man withholding documents, as Hur put it, is not the same as an old man trying to overturn an election that he lost and enact a fake electorate scheme to steal the presidential election.

Also, if you believe that the election was stolen, maybe you should look into the fact that 64 of 65 cases were defeated and failed when it came to questioning the results. As I said, your party is a party of lies and deceitful who can't stand in a court of truth and law.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Also, an old man withholding documents, as Hur put it, is not the same as an old man trying to overturn an election that he lost and enact a fake electorate scheme to steal the presidency.

Correct. How come an old man withholding documents isn’t the same as an old man withholding documents? thats the big question on society’s mind.

Also, if you believe that the election was stolen,

Sorry I dont believe in nonsense conspiracies with zero evidence to support the claim.

As I said, your party is a party of lies and deceit who can’t stand in a court of truth and law.

So is yours. the difference is my party comes with 30% less inflation, 1A and 2A rights for the people, a secure boarder, and no wars.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

Trump has literally committed high crimes against our constitution, and you all don't care. You are defending a felon who only wants to be president to not go to jail.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

biden/harris have literally committed high crimes against our constitution, and you all dont care. you are defending a tyrant who wants to destroy the rights of the people so that democracy and America can be destroyed forever.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

First of all, fuck biden and harris. If they committed high crimes, send them to jail too!

Why can't you say the same about Trump?

You can copy what I say and repeat lies over and over again just like fox news, but it doesn't make it true.

Trump has been found guilty of several crimes and more to come. When he flees to Russia after losing the election and it comes out what he did. You remember this conversation of when a true patriot tried to warn you. I support the 2A, but I would never support a treasonous piece of shit like Trump. And if Biden is the same, he can choke on a phallus as well.

No matter what you say, no democrat has done anything like January 6th or the fake electorate scheme. Trump is a traitor to our country to the highest degree and a rapist to boot.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

Why can’t you say the same about Trump?

Because no democrat in a position of power is saying that about Biden/Harris. What’s good for democrats is good for republicans. Either we hold everyone account under the law, or no one. no special treatment for democrats. remember, trump and biden committed literally the same exact crime when they kept classified documents at their private residence. trump got charged, biden did not.

You can copy what I say and repeat lies over and over again just like fox news, but it doesn’t make it true.

Correct. What makes something true or not is whether or not it actually happened. you’re so caught up in watching fox news you forgot about reality.

Trump has been found guilty of several crimes and more to come. When he flees to Russia after losing the election and it comes out what he did.

Looking at the polls, im thinking we’re headed for another 2016. Not because trump is some charismatic populist that people love. Just because democrats have ruined our lives over the last 4 years. When trump is elected, it’ll be important to hunt down and prosecute every guilty democrat to the fullest extent of the law. Joe, Hunter, and Hillary all deserve life sentences. It’s time to makeup for our two tiered justice system. If trump can be found guilty for his crimes, then so can a democrat. That’s what i think. Equal justice.

I support the 2A

Dont forget about 1A. Democrats are taking away so many of our rights now that it’s hard to keep track!

but I would never support a treasonous piece of shit like Trump. And if Biden is the same, he can choke on a phallus as well.

well, those are youre only two options: two treasonous pieces of shit. Take your pick. I am lol.

No matter what you say, no democrat has done anything like January 6th or the fake electorate scheme.

You sure? 2 assassination attempts by Biden/Kamala supporters. Over 4 billion in damages from BLM rioting. A congressional assassination attempt. Democrats are the party of violence and extremism.

Trump is a traitor to our country to the highest degree and a rapist to boot.

If he was a rapist then he’d be charged with rape. Nobody believes he’s a rapist outside of the democrat cult.

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NothingButTheTea@reddit

You haven't addressed a single thing that I said.

Have a nice day.

Maybe consider not voting for a convicted felon rapist.

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Slight-Imagination36@reddit

i addressed everything you said.

Cute-Gear-6774@reddit

Love him

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250oldguy@reddit

The Media run by Russian oppertive Democraps are an extensional THREAT to the freedome of all Americans.

We don't see mega doing what now??? That comment is absolutely insane.
My god if this sub actually let me post pictures.

pargofan@reddit

It's hard not to, based on his rhetoric.

Any Democratic candidate would've been toast with any of a hundred statements that Trump makes.

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jeffreyj1970@reddit

DEMONCRAP, LEFTIST, GLOBALIST POLICIES

He’s so fucking stupid, he is advocating for his own imprisonment

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Fearless-Blueberry17@reddit

I'm peacefully sipping coffee and laughing at magats lol.

Godfoppi@reddit

Russian bot

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ADHDFart@reddit

Calls someone a bot

less than two month old account with little else.

The irony is astounding.

Bad bot.

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Godfoppi@reddit

Very bad bot

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WhyNotCollegeBoard@reddit

Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.99993% sure that ADHDFart is not a bot.

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bOfE SiDeZ!1!

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stayathomejoe@reddit

Thank you. Between this and referring to this guy as a “hero” is gross.

SiriusSlytherinSnake@reddit

... Because your algorithm and probably location. There's plenty on this sub that has nothing to do with politics. It amazes me how people are so upset to see political posts during an election year when all you have to do is scroll past or ignore the post with flairs for that purpose

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