Harvest in England the second worst on record because of wet weather
Posted by Portalrules123@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 101 comments
Posted by Portalrules123@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 101 comments
porym@reddit
Can’t wait for the new season of Clarksons Farm
lavamantis@reddit
What's the deal with that guy? I thought he was a kind of amusing old curmudgeon who unfortunately came out with some pretty racist nonsense a while ago.
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Clarkson is a character, so you have to try and separate out the character from the real person. He is a faintly conservative tv personality, who is passionate about cars and farming. He has had some instances of bigotry and violence in the past. If you watch Top Gear, he also sometimes comes across as quite a sensitive and compassionate man.
BlackMassSmoker@reddit
The overall vibe in the UK is bad right now and has been for awhile.
People have had years of struggling and watching this country circle the drain, while politicians make empty promises of growth while paradoxically carrying on with the same neo-liberal policies since Thatcher: tax rises and spending cuts.
Check out r/ukpolitics and aside from our usual dry sense of humour, you'll see a lot of people feeling despondent, a sense of futility about the future. We're a nation frozen in time, unable to reconcile our loss of standing on the world stage along with a desire to keep things as they are while holding onto memories of 'empire'. Need to build new houses? The nimbys will have something to say about that. Invest in nuclear? It'll take a decade to build a plant for it so fuck that, long term thinking be damned. Infrastructure is neglected and our rivers are quite literally full of shit. Private companies have a stranglehold on every industry.
Meanwhile in the background we have crop failures, prices continue to rise while our economy stagnates. All while our leaders tell us working hard makes you morally righteous. A summer of far-right riots should be a reminder that we are exposed to fascism that's ready to tap into the anger that has been fermenting for decades.
There is very little hope to no hope for the future in this country. I dread to think how things will look here in 5 years time.
lavamantis@reddit
My understanding is the fascists have been hugely successful blaming immigrants (mostly Muslim, yes?) for all the problems. At least, that's the case in Austria.
Climate migration from the Middle East will NEVER decrease from this point forward. The amount we've seen is miniscule compared to the years ahead as that region becomes uninhabitable.
And if we have fascism on this scale now, even here in the US where immigration is much smaller, I don't see there really being any full democracies in 10 years. Not without a profound global shift towards "radical tolerance."
Stewart_Games@reddit
Everywhere in England outside of London has an economy worse than Mississippi (the worst American state). England is a third world country + London.
sunwarmedpine28@reddit
We just visited a few countries in Europe recently and England was BLEAK. We couldn't get out of there fast enough. Stayed in a cheap room in the home of an old couple. Their house smelled rank and they spewed racist drivel. The beautifully restored pub in this small Suffolk town was staffed full of young people with PhD's bartending while they waited for jobs to open up in London. I ate the worst meals of my life and shopped at a grocery store that made me feel like I was in a horror movie. Half off meat literally rotting on the shelves and mostly wilted produce. Ireland and France have their issues, but my god was it night and day. Even the standard greeting, "are you alright?" with a down concerned face, said it all.
arrow74@reddit
This right here is why our world is going to collapse. Size of the economy is not important, it's the quality of life of the people living there. If they have enough food, medical care, and housing who cares how big their economy is?
Stewart_Games@reddit
Well the problem right now is that England does not have enough food, medical care, or housing. The trouble really is less about how "big" England's economy is, and more about how unequally the wealth is distributed through the country. Londoners are fat and happy, but outside of that megacity the country is facing a housing crisis, grocery shelves are not getting stocked or if they are the food is in bad condition, and their medical system is on the verge of collapse with thousands of young doctors and nurses leaving it after years of neglect by the Tory government, meaning wait times for non-emergency care are getting so long that people are dying of treatable diseases like cancers for lack of basic annual checkups. It's bad across the pond right now!
nommabelle@reddit
I can't stand those UK subs anymore. There's just so much blatant racism, and it seems like everything is made to be the fault of immigrants
Shorttail0@reddit
Fascism might be the natural end stage of capitalism.
wulfhound@reddit
To explore that a bit.
Pre-civilisation people are naturally suspicious of outsiders.
Racism/fascism becomes dangerous when it's combined with power. People who are fascist but without significant power aren't much of a threat.
As power increases, early on it looks like tyranny, but eventually people learn to exercise it with restraint, nobility, justice, moderation.
The problem is that as power begins to decline, people tell themselves that they can no longer afford those virtues. (Whether or not that's true doesn't really matter).
This is why the first cry of the populist-fascist is "we should help our own, not those brown people", but why, when pressed, they also do nothing to help "their own". It's a scarcity/hardship mindset, but held by people who still have considerable power.
For me the more interesting question is why fairly wealthy people come to believe they're in a position of scarcity and hardship, that they, or we as a society, cannot in fact afford a little generosity towards people arriving on our shores.
HCPmovetocountry@reddit
Great comment, thanks.
I feel a possible answer to your question in the final paragraph is that it's often the boomer age group that seems to feel that way - and younger family members who look up to that behavior.
The boomers have had it very easy in North America. It kind of feels like a spoiled baby having a fit because they think someone is going to take away 1 of their 11 silver rattles.
Tough times are coming. I hear a lot of seagulls; mine .. Mine .... mine
wulfhound@reddit
Yep - the issue tbh isn't really whether they have one rattle or 11, but that they're still hungry for twelve, or twenty. And they lack the self-reflection to realise that they'll still be just as hungry when they get to twenty.
And to say to someone like that ".. actually, I'm not hungry today.." is almost taboo. Like "why not? what's wrong with you?"
I probably used to be one of those hungry people, to some extent at least, but the more I became aware of what's going on, it kind of killed my appetite.
HCPmovetocountry@reddit
I, too, have developed an aversion to the dirty taste of tokens.
DiethylamideProphet@reddit
It's the end stage of having more migrant arrivals than live births, year after year, and stubbornly ignoring the locals who feel that the land they were born in is their home, not the home of the entire planet.
Shorttail0@reddit
Thank you for proving my point, fascist.
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DiethylamideProphet@reddit
What point? That fascism is the end stage of capitalism? How did I prove that? lmao
The_Sex_Pistils@reddit
I’m sorry to say that I upvoted your comment.
BlackMassSmoker@reddit
I hear you. I despair at the idiocy of our country sometimes.
It's sad to see r/ukpolitics go down the same road. While the sub is still politically in the centre, I've started noticing posts appearing, talking about immigrants, questioning while they can't 'integrate' into our country and take on 'British values'. I don't even know what British values are anymore. And they hide behind the 'BUT WE NEED WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS ADULT DISCUSSION ABOUT IMMIGRATION' and yet no one brings up climate change or the destabilization of the global south.
But still, I go on there because a small part of me still enjoys the batshit psychodrama of politics. It's cheaper than the cinema.
pajamakitten@reddit
They went down that road when the Brexit referendum happened. It has always been a sub for right wing politics.
Tayschrenn@reddit
I came across an account in UKPolitics that had 50+ comments a day, every single one espousing alt-right adjacent talking points or policies. I couldn't tell if the guy had no life or is some sort of paid canvasser. WorldNews is even more of an obviously astroturfed sub.
Prospective_tenants@reddit
Sounds like paid Russian asset. Many ring-wing American online personalities are being paid by the Russians, it won’t surprising if they were also fomenting shit across the pond.
pajamakitten@reddit
The number of migrants we are taking in is unsustainable compared to the infrastructure we have. That is not the fault of the migrants but the fault of the governments for refusing to invest in our country in the first place.
EddieHeadshot@reddit
I'm left wing and the elephant in the room is not ppinting out that there's a big problem with the way immigration has been handled. Brexit was also a massive disaster and no one will take ownership or talk on that either.
That's 2 things off the bat that aren't being addressed in general.
PrizeParsnip1449@reddit
What would you say is the heart of the big problem with the way it's handled?
(There's certainly some dumb stuff like warehousing asylum seekers for years and not letting them work or otherwise integrate, but that seems fixable & in any case they're a small % of overall migration)
EddieHeadshot@reddit
In a 2 party system it's political suicide to address. The population is also so divided with an entitled older generation and a lot of young people have just given up on the social contract because there's no chance you'll ever own a house
PrizeParsnip1449@reddit
Agree house prices are deeply messed up, at least in places where there's work and the chance of a decent life.
Has more to do with dual incomes than anything else though, two salaries meant people could afford not 2x the mortgage, but 3x, sometimes 4x. And then the basics like food and energy went exponential, and we cut off our supply of inexpensive temporary workers providing childcare and suchlike which immediately jumped in price such that nursery for a 2 year old costs as much as private schools.
It's ultimately an open market though, so expect some correction as the boomers die off, 30 year olds are flat broke and can't afford the inflated prices. The question is whether Labour dares touch IHT on family homes, the fair thing would be to increase it so as to force sales which in turn will drive the market towards affordability, but that's a massive minefield - there's a lot of people who have housing wealth but not much else, and will resent having it properly taxed even on death.
nommabelle@reddit
I know little, but is it really an open market? My understanding was the ability to build more housing, whether dense or not, is not easy (especially in the UK iiuc) regulation-wise and is a large barrier to entry. We need more housing, boomers dying won't fix that as we've grown multiples since they bought their house
Is it correct its hard to build new housing, and if so, why? Surely there is profit for the ruling class to build more
PrizeParsnip1449@reddit
It's hard to build it where there are good jobs and transport links.
The cities are already built up, high density brownfield builds are expensive and therefore tend to be "luxury" flats. (Not a bad thing IMO but attracts opposition from the "no to towers" and "no to gentrification" lot. And eventually many people want more than a flat.)
The edges of cities, i.e. green belt, are the most sought after and contested bits of land (the people living nearby are rich and don't like change) and even then the transport links may not be exactly great. So they either build small patches of new-build with no facilities (schools, shops, buses, doctors), or they build a whole New Town which is much more difficult.
Then there are areas where land is cheap and planning uncontested, but it's half an hour drive from the nearest Tesco and the only jobs available are low paid.
Prospective_tenants@reddit
Same in Canadian subs.
hampa9@reddit
It was a couple of days, with a small number involved.
Outrageous-Scale-689@reddit
Well you have the Royals and half the country will suck their collective dicks for a loaf of bread so hang your hat on that? Kinda brought this on yourselves.
Double-Hard_Bastard@reddit
Get out while you can. I left in 2016, and going back is just depressing.
BlackMassSmoker@reddit
I know this is the part where people jump in and say it's bad, if not worse, in other places. But man, I'd love to to get off this grey ass grim rock of despair and just see some other places. Perhaps somewhere that is a bit warmer. Unfortunately it takes money and resources I simply do not have.
Double-Hard_Bastard@reddit
Do you have a degree? If so, you can become an ESL teacher in many countries around the world with just your degree and a TEFL certificate. That's what I did. I intended to spend a couple years in China, then move around, but I met my wife in Beijing and now we run our own little school together.
DarknessAndFog@reddit
This is spooky. Over the past few days, I fell down a rabbithole of getting interested in going for the TEFL to teach abroad, after seeing an ad online for teaching in China.
I don't suppose you might have any advice? I have a degree, working in healthcare right now.
Double-Hard_Bastard@reddit
Join r/eslteachers and have a read through stuff there.
DarknessAndFog@reddit
Looks like that sub is banned
jim_jiminy@reddit
Rarely is it long term though. Unless you’re a highly qualified teacher already, don’t expect to make much. Not enough to save for retirement etc. most people do it for a few years in their 20’s then come back.
cyvaris@reddit
Well, I've been teaching for well over a decade and it doesn't pay enough to save for retirement so...
traveller-1-1@reddit
I did just that. I teach in Asia. Not perfect, but certainly better.
U9365@reddit
Most other Euro type countires you'd be paiying a LOT more tax. The UK has the tax free personal allowance, other countries you pay tax on everythign you earn. No nil-band personal allowances
Beatnuki@reddit
And, thanks to our current economic swamp almost two decades stagnant in the making, almost impossible to earn without the cost of basic subsistence hurtling past you the moment you break your back enough to even consider you might be getting ahead of the curve
Cryticall@reddit
As a french who used to follow closely UK politics, I feel like the smear campaign on Corbyn really sealed UK's deal. It's depressing to see from an outside perspective, though I feel like we are next on the list seeing how Macron basically ignored the results of a whole ass election that he provoked.
SpongederpSquarefap@reddit
Shameless plug for my favourite recent video on this
https://youtu.be/b5aJ-57_YsQ
We're swirling the toilet - too many idiots are arguing saying Labour are worse than the Tories were
They don't see the bigger picture - we are fucked either way - the best labour can do is try to soften the blow, but the only way they can do that is with a huge tax hike
dumnezero@reddit
There's even a song ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_YtEb9zOck
Portalrules123@reddit (OP)
SS: Related to climate collapse as unusually wet weather in England (perhaps at least in part due to the early signs of an AMOC collapse?) is ruining crops, causing wheat in particular to decline by 21%, and threatening the food security of Great Britain as a result. Nowhere will be safe from the climate crisis, but expect the UK to be especially hard hit as the climate crisis accelerates. Cutting themselves off with Brexit doesn’t help matters either….
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Yeah, no. Looking at all the other countries with their issues in the face of climate change I'm pretty happy with the UK. Our food sufficiency is crap, but could be ramped up when things get really shit in a sort of WW2 chickens in every garden scenario.
Even just compared to other European countries, you've got the south which will be proto-desert and swamped with climate refugees, the same for much of the east, and the northern states will have the same issues as the UK but with a climate which is already worse for food production. We had a wet year, but none of the extreme flooding and heat that the rest of Europe suffered through.
The UK has a significant advantage in the form of the Channel, and when shit gets to the state that Brexit somehow matters, I doubt that the spirit of pan-European cooperation is going to be worth anything.
pajamakitten@reddit
What gardens? The Anglo-Saxon gardens people have filled with a monoculture lawn and non-native flowers? The ones with astro turf and where the front garden has been pave over for parking?
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Gardens vary hugely here. Mine was a big grass square a year ago, now it contains dozens of fruit trees and shrubs, raised beds, edible perennials, water catchment, and shortly chickens. The idea that growing food in gardens wouldn't happen in more desperate circumstances just because they aren't currently is daft.
U9365@reddit
If it gets to the stage that farmer's can't grow with all the tech and resources available to them - then sure as hell you the DIY home garden grower will fare even worse!
Cogz@reddit
I was looking at our self sufficiency a little while back. WW2, dig for victory, allotments in parks and chickens in the gardens era wasn't the high point in the last century, it was the early 80s.
Some ridiculous number, like 50%, of all crops grown isn't for human consumption, it's destined to be cattle feed, so the self sufficiency thing could be solved withing a season. I'd really miss meat feast pizza though.
Something less drastic would be to stop importing out-of-season foods. I'm pretty sure we don't need fresh tomatoes in the middle of winter.
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Exactly. I think we will see a crunch on food availability when climate change begins to really bite. We will then see a sort of national mobilisation. Allotments in public parks, a ban on feeding livestock food that could be fed to people, every garden being used to grow whatever it can, and maybe even the use of military force to secure food supplies from elsewhere. Of course, everyone else will be trying that as well and it won't guarantee actual freedom from hunger. It's also quite likely I think that the elite will still be happily eating steak.
I'm trying to get a head start, and learn how to grow as much as possible. I'm also going to get some chickens, and have turned my garden into a stealthy food forest with lots of edibles that aren't obviously edible, like hostas.
MycoMutant@reddit
Try tiger nuts, Cyperus esculentus. Stick them in any size pot and they will take it over entirely and just look like a boring weed. Pretty much unkillable. No pests issues, slugs have no interest in them, no wilting even when neglected through the heat of summer and no issue in saturated soil from heavy rain.
Lift them and you'll find hundreds of small peanut sized tubers which have a higher calorific value per dry kg than corn, rice, wheat or any grain. Dries easily for storage, can be eaten raw or cooked, very high in fat but healthy fat that lowers cholesterol. Can be used to make a drink, ground into flour or roasted like nuts.
I only did one small pot of them last year as I forgot I planted them but estimate that I got around 500 calories from a 20cm pot. This year I've tried lots of different pot sizes and substrates with and without companions so I'll see what the yield is like in a month or so. Everything I've read on them sort of amazes me as the estimated yields are so high. Only downside is I don't think they'd be viable to plant directly in the ground here as I'd never be able to harvest them in the heavy clay and they would take over everything in time.
Live_Canary7387@reddit
I've just had a look, they're absolutely fascinating. I can't wait to try growing them next year.
My other experiment is going to be Jerusalem artichoke, which is similarly stealthy.
MycoMutant@reddit
Sunchokes are great. I started with one plant I think two years ago. Now I have 20 odd pots full of them. Most of the ones in the 30 litre pots are pretty short and haven't reached their full potential and about half the ones in 50 litre are similar. In a few of the 50 litre pots the plants have reached 6-8ft tall though and are starting to flower. Those ones seem to have grown through the drainage holes and rooted in the ground which is why they managed to get so tall. At that point I would say they are anything but stealthy as they're taller than the fences and clearly something interesting and cultivated.
I haven't compared the yield on the tall plants vs short yet but all will have produced something at least so I think it would be viable to limit the depth of soil they have to produce shorter, stealthier plants. I think there are some dwarf varieties you can get also.
Only issues I've had with the sunchokes is that in the Spring the slugs go for them more than anything else, same as they do for sunflowers. So half my plants were getting eaten back to the root every single night for weeks and that stunted their growth a lot. I had to resort to going out every night and collecting all the slugs to give them a chance to grow. Other problem was they spent most of the Summer wilting and it did not seem to matter how much I watered them. Only after heavy rain did they stop wilting though none of them actually died due to lack of water. Not sure if I am going to bother with them in pots next year or if I'll try them straight in the ground or in beds.
You can plant tubers in October or November and leave them in the soil to overwinter and they'll grow next year, though you may need to stick some thorns or netting on the pot to stop squirrels digging them up.
Sweet potatoes seem to grow very well here too. I never have any success with potatoes and just get yields that are too low to bother with but the sweet potatoes are easy and I suspect most people would just mistake the leaves for something like bindweed. They store for much longer than potatoes too.
Zestyclose-Ad-9420@reddit
i wouldnt bet on that happening in time to prevent a food crisis though, the way british politics and government has gone.
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Oh absolutely, which is why I'm prepping for food supply issues. Relying on the British government to do anything useful is a doomed hope.
PrizeParsnip1449@reddit
It's the second one - reducing animal agriculture, and beef especially - that makes the big difference.
Home food gardening will be more about growing things that mainstream agriculture can't or won't provide, rather than a major contributor of calories for 70M people.
Closer to the 1950s diet in other words. A lot less out-of-season produce, a lot less meat generally, and swapping out beef for lamb: sheep farming is viable on lots of poor-quality land which won't produce much of anything else.
ThunderPreacha@reddit
Dream on!
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Sure, good luck in Paraguay.
ComicCon@reddit
I'm curious what evidence you have that this is AMOC related? Reading the article it could be climate change related, but they don't talk about that at all.
DirewaysParnuStCroix@reddit
I'd argue that it's more related to the downstream effects of the aerosol termination shock crisis, which has resulted in dramatically high sea surface temperatures in the North Atlantic. Ironically, when the North Atlantic is much warmer than average, this results in wetter and cooler summers in northwestern Europe due to the feedback of higher evaporation and subsequent heightened precipitation rates. Basically, more rainy weather. This is essentially what's been happening since last summer.
Some arguments state that as the AMOC slows, it can result in the mid North Atlantic seeing a warming effect. However, it's theoretical at best.
There's a widespread misconception that a slower or collapsed AMOC results in colder summers in the UK and that's simply not the case at all, there's no viable academic conclusions that irrefutably demonstrate it as a hypothetical outcome. The academic consensus is pretty consistent on specifying that the cooling response would be a winter phenomenon.
PrizeParsnip1449@reddit
The UK did not have an anomalously cool summer. Temperatures were about average.
What we did have was endless cloud (resulting in less sunlight for growth) and unusually high rainfall in prime agricultural areas.
Not at all good for wheat or grapes, should however be a fine year for apples and potatoes.
U9365@reddit
They have none - anymore than the very hot and dry summer of 1976 was related to climate change or the very cold and snowy winter of 1962/63 heralded the next ice age.
BTRCguy@reddit
It was not listed in the article, but I eventually found elsewhere that the detailed recordkeeping for harvests began in 1983, so it is the second worst harvest in the past 41 years.
FREE-AOL-CDS@reddit
Only since 1983? Surely they kept detailed records long before that!
Uncommented-Code@reddit
They may have, but data tends to disappear when not looked after carefully. There's fires, carelessness, accidents, wrongly assuming data will have no future use, malicious destruction, theft, lack of technology for preservation, etc etc
Or maybe it was just not something aggregated at the national level before that. I'm sure individual farmers kept records, but if no one collected them, then the safekeeping would be up to the many individual farmers. And I doubt farmers have data preservation as their highest priority.
BTRCguy@reddit
Afraid that all I know on the subject is what I could look up. Specifically, the only published detailed records are from 1983 onward:
https://eciu.net/media/press-releases/2024/england-set-for-top-three-worst-harvest-as-impact-of-wet-winter-continues-to-linger
Footnote 6 from this link:
misfitx@reddit
I definitely thought the data would extend back a couple centuries.
majortrioslair@reddit
“It is clear that climate change is the biggest threat to UK food security. And these impacts are only going to get worse until we reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.”
'Reducing' today's emissions isn't going to stop tomorrow's disasters. Sick of seeing this dumb shit in nearly every article.
TheBroWhoLifts@reddit
I call it the Solution Delusion Fallacy. We falsely belive that all problems have solutions. Some are simple solutions because the problems are simple. Complex problems beget more nuanced and complex solutions.
What about problems that aren't necessarily complex (carbon emissions = warming planet) but whose ramifications are now so ubwieldy and out of control, there actually are no feasible solutions. The dimensions of the climate collapse are so vast: technological, social, psychological, economic, humanitarian, ethical, hell even moral... And I'm leaving a bunch out. These types of problems have no solution. To think otherwise is delusional.
Another example where we see the Solution Delusion Fallacy is gun violence in the US. There are more guns than people. There is no solution to reducing gun violence. It's here to stay. We can tinker around the edges, but that's about it. The fundamental problem remains. It's the same for climate, overpopulation, social media misinformation, capitalist wealth inequality...
odc100@reddit
And everybody needs to reduce, not just the UK, who have actually done a pretty good job decarbonising.
IntrepidHermit@reddit
This is what annoys me. The UK has actually done way more than a lot of countries, but the other countries dont give a crap and are still financially taking advantage of systems that polute, etc.
So why even bother.
The UK is such a small country in comparison that if it sunk into the ocean tomorrow, it would only be a 2% difference in pollution/carbon impact (if I remembered that figure correctly).
wulfhound@reddit
UK has done a genuinely great job on production-based emissions - we're mostly deindustrialised, North Sea oil/gas is gradually winding down, and much of our remaining manufacturing is small-volume, high-margin: defence, luxury cars and so on. On a consumption basis it doesn't look quite as great, lots of carbon-intensive imports and a lot of aviation per capita.
But we also industrialised a lot earlier (like 150 years earlier) so we've had a lot longer to get rich by burning coal than the populous Asian countries.
nommabelle@reddit
So this will make grocery prices (particularly, and maybe only, in Britain) more expensive right?
ShyElf@reddit
The wheat harvest the article is about is going to do virtually nothing. Grains are a global market, barring shortages in exporting countries, and Britain doesn't seem to have significant import duties. Prices are down. They're stacking corn outside in Illinois because nobody wants to buy near recent prices.
Vegetables, on the other hand, are mainly local to Europe, and Spain has drought.
dumnezero@reddit
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https://www.world-grain.com/articles/19974-country-focus-the-united-kingdom
I'd guess that breads and pastries are going up a bit, while pasta not so much.
BUT, if we look at this article from last year (can't find a new one for 2024): https://ahdb.org.uk/news/domestic-wheat-consumption-on-the-rise-grain-market-daily
so almost half the wheat is being diverted in order to create value added second-hand proteins, fats, and calories. I expect that those prices will go up more visibly. So... https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/how-go-vegan
SpongederpSquarefap@reddit
Oh yeah we are so done
dolphone@reddit
Check out Atomic Shrimp's YouTube channel. Lots of UK foraging and economy shopping there!
tedsmitts@reddit
carefully weighs and slaps a price label on one grape
Beatnuki@reddit
Moreso than they already have been getting!
have_pen_will_travel@reddit
I left the U.K. 13 years ago to move to the U.S., and while I was convinced the writing was well and truly on the wall during Theresa May's campaign for the premiership, it is truly incredible and heartbreaking in equal measure to see just how far we've fallen, so rapidly. A nation with antiquated delusions of grandeur in terminal decline, increasingly defined by its naked hostility to its most vulnerable, and there's no end in sight to the potential cruelty we're likely to see in the coming years.
My heart breaks for my countrymen who didn't have the sheer fucking luck I did to escape before the worst of it.
Ok_Main3273@reddit
An excellent description of your adoptive country.
Double-Hard_Bastard@reddit
Join r/eslteachers and have a read through stuff there.
redditmodsRrussians@reddit
Niander Wallis has entered the chat
disasterbot@reddit
Watercress futures are through the roof!
znirmik@reddit
Not to be that guy, but what time span does the record cover? There were dozens of famines in British isles in the medieval period. Including the Great Famine in 1315 (caused by wet and cool weather) when even the king was struggling to source bread for himself and his entourage.
Stewart_Games@reddit
I love the Extra History episodes on that. Some interesting parallels with our modern struggle against climate change. Strong historical example showing how all the delicate webs that sustain our civilization start to unravel very quickly with even a single degree change in temperature, even if for them it was a degree lower than normal rather than a degree, or two degrees, or five degrees...hotter. Oh yes, we are verified fucked.
whereismysideoffun@reddit
That wad in the early parts of the Little Ice Age.
DirewaysParnuStCroix@reddit
Interesting fact: the "Little Ice Age" was almost exclusively a winter phenomenon as was discussed by Wanner, Pfister et al. (2022) as well as Ó Gráda & Kelly (2015). The majority of summers in the CET records were notably hot and dry across England, with the cooler and wetter summers coinciding with heightened volcanic activity. The Great Fire of London, which occured in 1666, was largely triggered by the incredibly tinderbox conditions created by the preceding hot and dry summer. July 1701 remains the 10th hottest on record, and June 1676 remains the second hottest in CET records. The Thames frost fairs, often held as an icon of the Little Ice Age, can be attributed to the fact that the medieval London Bridge created a substantial backlog effect that allowed for the water to pool and freeze.
It's for these reasons that the Little Ice Age subject is considered contentious.
s0cks_nz@reddit
Going by the article it says "on record" so it probably means from early 20th century. I also think it's talking about largest drop in harvest over previous year rather than volume as a whole.
coinpile@reddit
Meanwhile it’s barely rained at all here in Texas in months. October is supposed to be our second wettest month and we haven’t had a bit here, or anything meaningful in the larger area…
ShareholderDemands@reddit
First major region to go 3 days without their daily bread is where the party pops off from. Food chain cascade failure from there as we consume ourselves to the end.
"Colony Collapse"
Zestyclose-Ad-9420@reddit
which is a shame bc its easy to have a couple weeks worth of stored food for the average brit.
Ok_Mechanic_6561@reddit
Slowing AMOC
dolphone@reddit
Faster than expected?
dumnezero@reddit
Slowed AMOC is different from stopped AMOC.
StatementBot@reddit
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Portalrules123:
SS: Related to climate collapse as unusually wet weather in England (perhaps at least in part due to the early signs of an AMOC collapse?) is ruining crops, causing wheat in particular to decline by 21%, and threatening the food security of Great Britain as a result. Nowhere will be safe from the climate crisis, but expect the UK to be especially hard hit as the climate crisis accelerates. Cutting themselves off with Brexit doesn’t help matters either….
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