Any time someone new realizes how cooked we are
Posted by mastermind_loco@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 142 comments
Posted by mastermind_loco@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 142 comments
BBR0DR1GUEZ@reddit
A lot of people think they realize it but they don’t grasp the magnitude. The late, great, Michael B. Dowd said it best: failure to understand ecological overshoot will result in a failure to understand all of the problems associated.
The conservatives are hopelessly brainwashed beyond reason. No chance of them understanding our predicament as long as the right wing media slop keeps flowing. The liberals are living in a slightly more sophisticated fantasy. They think we’re on a path to millions dying. There may be hope for them to realize we’re on a path to billions dying. But by the time they do, it will be all over but the crying.
kupo_moogle@reddit
Ok, how long do I have and how can I prepare?
apwiseman@reddit
Copied from another thread I posted:
Currently, we are in the beginning of exponential WTF with the weather. I think 5-6 more "normal" years with manageable inflation and recessions is reasonable. The 2030s-40s will be interesting because nobody can predict how superpowers will wage war for resource rich areas. I think in that decade people will slowly be priced out of goods that will turn into luxuries because there will be less areas/stable weather to grow and cultivate things like wine, cheese, seafood, and coffee.
In the 2050s-2060s, most scientists don't know...they all the agree on one thing though, we will be fucked because we didn't pump the brakes on all our wasteful emissions and industrialization. Sea level rise, polar ice caps melted, Jet stream collapse, droughts/heat waves, etc.
dumnezero@reddit
They were always luxuries. People just take them for granted due to certain reasons... with one part of their mouth claiming that "the cost of living is going up" and with the other claiming that "we're not the rich". I just saw a comment yesterday pointing out how trillionaires are bad.
dumnezero@reddit
For context:
Reasonable_Swan9983@reddit
One more thing I’d like to add is that our greed is pretty much universal. From the bottom to the top of this graph, if we had the money and means to consume and spend relentlessly, we would. That’s why I personally don’t blame the rich—there’s only myself to change.
HelpUsMisterFoneBone@reddit
I blame those who were rich enough to be in a position of leadership and power, and used that power to buy governments who would look the other way and pretend climate change wasn't real, so they could keep making more money by killing the entire human race. How much stuff they consumed is beside the point. They wielded power which they abused to pull the wool over our eyes. These people are absolutely responsible and guilty and need to be punished and suffer. The FDA was created because it became clear that companies would absolutely poison people to make money, unless prevented by law. This is an example of leadership. That's the purpose of government. It's ridiculous to blame each ordinary ignorant person because they owned a car and an air conditioner, when owning a car and an air conditioner was legal. It's faulty logic. It's like saying people are 100% responsible for how they vote, when the hyperwealthy control the media and Elon can spend 44 billion to buy Twitter. It flies in the face of reality.
dumnezero@reddit
Universal, but cultural. Widespread like HSV1, but more so.
TrickyProfit1369@reddit
Idk if its greed in particular. All living things expand with plentiful energy and without predatory pressures. Like yeast in a petri dish they consume, overshoot, then comes population correction.
Reasonable_Swan9983@reddit
Of course, that makes sense. We have that animal in us, yet we're intelligent, more or less. And to that intelligence I speak to, and speak of.
Surely, if that intelligence would educate and lead the world (not rule) - we could live in balance.
Sinilumi@reddit
The lowest 9% of the richest 10% roughly means "ordinary person in a rich country". I suspect a lot of people greatly underestimate just how rich they are because they're comparing themselves to their neighbors rather than people living in some slum in India. The middle section of that graph probably mostly consists of people living in countries like Russia, Brazil and China.
dumnezero@reddit
Yep. If you can read this, you're in the top 10%.
BangEnergyFTW@reddit
TL;DR: We f**ed around and we’re about to find out.*
Big_Brilliant_3343@reddit
Thats the fun part. You do what you can and if we get to a point (ie more than 3C) were plants cant sustain life than its game over whatever you try.
Just garner resilience and dont go too overboard. Nobody will not survive if worst case happens.
Z3r0sama2017@reddit
Depends on your preps and your goals. If you want to have kids and set them up, tough shit. If you want to live out you remaining years in comfort, it plausible if unlikely, due to humans humaning.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
It's a crapshoot for sure but I've tried to tell others that if they live in a climate-sensitive areas like coastal areas and drought-prone areas they should move to avoid the rush. If insurance continues to be withdrawn from risky areas then those property values will fall and the rush to relocate will be on. It's taking place right now but under the radar. I still think there are advantageous areas to take up residence but who knows if those will change going forward. Serious research is needed as to climate patterns, stability and water reliability and availability.
Colosseros@reddit
It's actively happening in New Orleans. We're losing 50,000 people a year aggregate. We only have between 300,000 and 400,000 people, so I don't suspect it will continue at that rate, barring a major storm that acts like a flyswatter.
We've only just started to see a flinch on the housing market. As this trend started, the AirBnB investors descended on the city. So housing prices didn't drop with the mass exodus. Being a tourism town guarantees a high basement on demand.
But this year the housing prices have started to level out. So it seems the market is starting to saturate, even on the investment property front. Of course this will lead to more of the seesaw of people coming and going. There's always a list of people considering moving to New Orleans. When prices drop enough, they show up.
kupo_moogle@reddit
My house overlooks the water, but we’re 9 meters above sea level on a rocky cliff. Should be ok.
Positive-Court@reddit
Don't have kids and hope you die early.
breaducate@reddit
Based on the reaction of most people to COVID, I seriously doubt that.
Turns out most of the people who rightfully ridiculed and were horrified by anti-vaxxers just had a different threshold of acceptable human losses before mass denial kicks in if it enables them to continue BAU.
Goku34Legion@reddit
B.A.U 🍿R.i.p humanity 🌝
bristlybits@reddit
well just about everyone isn't bothering to even mask up now, in a surge time, while people are still dying of SARS-cov-19 right now there's nobody really giving a damn about mass death and disability. it's not just the right wing, it's not even the BAU people. it's all of ya
malcolmrey@reddit
As someone who was following it from the start (when it was "only in China"), then when it hit other countries and sites appeared that provided the statistics I was there to aggregate them for some people so I was "on top" of the information flow.
Then some countries decided it is no longer needed to share the number of cases or even deaths.
Now, almost 5 years since the start - there is nothing on our news. If anything, there are just quick remarks about a new strain but those remarks are delivered along the info about new Tailor Swift tour so nobody really notices it.
Which includes me. I have no solid info what is the current covid status in my country. How many deaths daily, how many new cases etc - even if you wanted, you can't get this information anymore where I live.
bristlybits@reddit
if you can't know, wear an n95 or the like
protect yourself at very least.
JonathanApple@reddit
I never stopped masking, not all
bristlybits@reddit
neither have we. but it's a rarity, us giving a damn.
billcube@reddit
I see people "masking up" by having these simple blue chirurgical masks and below the nose, when FFP2 are now widely available and very cheap. So even if the intent is commendable, the effect is still zero.
bristlybits@reddit
the one thing I will say is that surgical masks are good at source control; if that person is sick and wearing it over both mouth and nose it will limit the amount of disease they can spread with loud talking, coughing, sneezing.
to protect yourself you do need an n95 or better. a well fitted ffp2 or n94 is almost enough, better than nothing certainly.
any effort is an effort
ThrowDeepALWAYS@reddit
Narrator: Sadly, it was over already
Z3r0sama2017@reddit
Yep. Imo I wouldn't be surprised if their was a huge variance between early and later Millennials in regards to climate change acceptance.
Those born early like me(83) hit the internet when it was still basically the Wild West, so odds are you were getting the message unfiltered.
Those born in 93+ would have been getting on as it both exploded, but also when it began to be heavily censored and regulated, getting fed shit.
malcolmrey@reddit
I'm observing the collapse related topics for over a decade now.
Most people care about their well being in only a very narrow view and in a very short time frame. And you can't really blame them because why should they care about their whole planet when they are struggling to keep their lives afloat?
The actual combat with the climate change requires a big sacrifice in our current ways of living. Some are unwilling because they don't want to lose any conveniences but some can't afford to lose anything because it would be game over for them.
But most of them are either in denial (like those who believe that hurricanes were created by Biden and Harris), some are aware that bad things happen but firmly believe that The Powers That Be will solve it (giving the ozone layer as the greatest example).
And there are us, a minority, still. We can't really do anything because the actions need to take place at government and corporate levels. If a person decides to stop eating meat or using plastic bags - it does very little in the grand scheme of things. Some are frustrated but know they can't do anything either and they just perform drastic crying of help by throwing paint in museum or gluing themselves to the street.
The best time to act is now, but we are not doing anything. I believe it is already too late and we can only lower the impacts or postpone it a bit - but event then - we are still not doing anything about it.
I heard the trump speech the other day and I've heard that when he wins, he will start with the fracking right away. And people cheered.
Biden promised to get away from coal, to be green. Those promises were broken, undelivered.
I'm not stressed about it though, I have accepted this some time ago. I'm here on that train that will collide soon and I'm here just to witness it happen.
Reasonable_Swan9983@reddit
Stopping eating meat, bringing your own bags for grocery shopping, eating less luxurious foods... it might not seem like much in the grand scheme of things, but you do it because it’s the right thing to do. When you're connected with nature and understand it, it’s like trying not to harm yourself—you just do it, without thinking of the bigger picture.
Before, when I was collapse-aware but still disconnected from what really matters, it only caused me anger towards society and depression. Now, I’m on that same train with you, but there’s no insecurity anymore.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
How'd you do that? I'm still at anger and depression.
dolphindefender79@reddit
Please look into changing what you can on a local level. I work with www.darksky.org We have the potential to decrease 30% of our energy. But we need action at the grassroots level. Save energy and stars for your community! It will greatly help you emotionally.
Reasonable_Swan9983@reddit
By discovering for myself that that I am the world, and the world is me.
I'll share a video with you that touches on this. It's just a small fragment of the tremendous work one must do to truly inquire about oneself. But, all the answers lie within you, so to speak. What's important is the message—not the speaker in the video or the person writing this to you now. If you find something worth exploring, there's plenty more helpful material on this same YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q97I0Xn1cLg
Taqueria_Style@reddit
It's always been all bullshit. All this history they throw at us? If it isn't a complete fabrication it's all just money-crazed monekys doing what they do for money.
The themesong to Airwolf was nice. Shadows and Tall Trees by U2 was nice.
... 'bout it really. That's the sum-total list of accomplishments off the top of my head.
malcolmrey@reddit
you made me play the airwolf soundtrack in my mind just now, thnx as it was an awesome one :)
Brru@reddit
I think there is a lack of understanding that the people in power have also decided it doesn't matter. They are used to throwing money at problems and getting fixes, so they plan on doing that by enslaving and buying us out. If a lot of people die in the process so be it, less to fight later. In their eyes this will be no different from the medieval era and they need to solidify their kingdoms now.
MariaValkyrie@reddit
I love your optimism here.
billcube@reddit
Depends on the time scale. We are mere mortals, all the billions of us.
billcube@reddit
Maybe they realised it was FUBAR and escaped into their own reality.
Pristine-Grade-768@reddit
I think some do understand, but they are framing it in their religion so they understand it. They essentially think we are living in the end times, but don’t realize their hand in it.
arseflower@reddit
No even in their last moments they will just say "insert current democrat leader caused the sun to merge with the earth".
On the bright side at least we won't have to hear anymore AAVE like cooked when humans are gone.
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Deep_Charge_7749@reddit
I knew we were fucked when the Kyoto Accords failed. That was the late nineties
Motor-Run-8595@reddit
I always find it so surreal that people keep saying “I knew we were fucked since whatever decade” and it was long before I was born lol. Really makes you feel the impending doom.
Pristine-Grade-768@reddit
I forget sometimes that some people don’t realize it. It’s astounding.
climate-tenerife@reddit
Some? The vast majority of people I know, if not all, are only mildly concerned and they all think we have decades before we'll really have to start worrying.
It blows my mind. The misinformation campaign throughout our lives really worked on most people. Heads are buried in the sand.
Pristine-Grade-768@reddit
My family is only mildly concerned because they want Jesus to return. It doesn’t matter how many catastrophes happen between then and the future.
Motor-Run-8595@reddit
The whole religion thing really gets me because in a lot of these religions there’s an end time/rupture that comes and takes away all the good people and damns the rest of us to hell on earth. I’m not religious(anymore) and it really is starting to look like nothing more than delusion to me.
Pristine-Grade-768@reddit
Total ill conceived delusional nonsense that they force others to participate in instead of just doing the stupid shit all by themselves.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
And we say they're not aware of how shit everything is?
Jesus, come back
AI, save us
Put us all in a simulation
Whatever -ism philosophy that basically equates to mental dissociation
It's all the same thing. There's some difference in intelligence level. Not enough difference to make a difference to what's coming so really the distinction is trivial in the end.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Even if we did it's musical chairs time, economically speaking. The homeless never went away, the higher ups just figured out that threatening us so overtly was producing negative consequences so they shipped them to the glue factory.
Where are all those people in NC and FL going to go?
climate-tenerife@reddit
And to think how many people are already poisoned by the belief that immigration is the cause of all their problems.
These people need to learn to chill out because there's only two futures: you're getting more immigrants; or you're becoming one yourself.
ClassicallyBrained@reddit
My dad, who very much believes in climate change passionately, tells me I'm overreacting when I talk about collapse stuff. Says it wont happen in my lifetime. Then I tell him not only will it, it'll happen in his too.
idk-idk-idk200000@reddit
Unrelated but what career path should I pursue that would be helpful during the collapse? .
ClassicallyBrained@reddit
Anything in medical, agricultural, electrical, plumbing, welding, construction, or cooking.
Tidezen@reddit
My dad recently turned 80. So it may not happen in his...maybe his narcissistic ass won't still be alive...and maybe Mom will die before then.
But my sister, and her husband...and their two kids, my niece and nephew...
https://youtu.be/t6Y-w75aJuc?si=1dEOtVqhIEoCMrez
I am here with them, and you.
I will love them until the day they die, because it was never any of our faults that we were here, to begin with.
(and yes, i said "they" on purpose...because i am a ghost, and can traverse worlds.)
My niece and nephew will die, and probably go to their graves, without ever knowing this.
But I will live, even in the final chapters of this world.
live4failure@reddit
Every time I look it’s worse so that’s like talking to myself in the mirror at this point.
idk-idk-idk200000@reddit
I want to go back to school. What education should I pursue that would be useful during the collapse or maybe help make it less bad?
alltoohoax@reddit
tbh i avoid thinking about it in a daily basis otherwise i can’t enjoy life
holydark9@reddit
Cassandras get a bad rap. People tend to forget that Cassandra was correct.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
James Hansen has not been afforded a meaningful platform since he addressed Congress in 1988.
PowerandSignal@reddit
Fucking A.
You know, I got so excited when he did that. I thought, "Finally! Now we can all wake up and fix this problem."
I've been in kind of a bad mood ever since. It definitely did nothing to change my opinion that the 80's were a shit decade in general.
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
I feel like Cassandra all the time. Earlier this year I mentioned hurricanes in the gulf would get crazy and Tampa would be in trouble. My dad assured me the “geography” meant that wouldn’t happen. Kind of freaks me out that within a matter of months Tampa gets a near miss of a weakening cat 5 hurricane. Maybe I should stop saying things. Everyone thinks I’m crazy for saying I think Israel might use their nukes, especially if they’re backed into a corner. Perhaps I’ll never say that again.
apwiseman@reddit
I think the US will occupy neighboring areas like Lebanon and Syria before resorting to nukes. I suspect that their probably plan would be let the other side "coincidentally" have a suitcase nuke and let it go off in a non-critical area, have the media spin it that terrorists have nukes, are taking it to the next level and then the US war machine can escalate and mobilize.
Vietnam had Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq had WMD rumors, it's only a matter of time before another "major threat" gets manufactured.
dumnezero@reddit
You forgot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
fedfuzz1970@reddit
Following the attack, I evacuated wounded from the USS Liberty. My ship the USS America as well as the USS Saratoga launched nuclear-armed aircraft with Egypt as the target. Israel misled us into thinking it was Egypt that attacked our ship. When the ship didn't sink, Israel admitted its "mistake" (sound familiar?) and LBJ recalled the aircraft (while the Israelis were still attacking. LBJ and Israel then covered it all up.
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
Seems LBJ did a lot of covering up for bad actors much to the detriment of the US population. He decided not to tell voters that Nixon had made a deal with the Vietcong to not negotiate until he was in office. Extended the war and cost the lives of many more people. Essentially treason.
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
It’s not the US using nukes, it’s Israel. And as we have seen with our eyes the current administration is not capable of holding the leash on Netanyahu. If the republicans win their plan is to cut the leash completely. They even have a policy, the Samson Option, in which they will nuke the whole region if it looks like all is lost.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
WOW!
Holy shit there goes the Evangelical voting bloc. To say the least. Ever think you'd join a Bible thumper in a riot? That'd do it.
Might want to re-think that one.
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
Rethink what? The policy that Israel has where it will nuke the Middle East if they feel like Israel is lost? That’s just a fact. I’m not on the same side as the evangelicals, they prop up Israel through fascism and genocide precisely because they hope the Israelis die in fire to being about the end times. Only psychos look forward to that.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
Israel false-flag attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 to get us into the 6 Days War. They killed 34 and wounded 171. LBJ helped them cover it all up. It has never been investigated.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
That's going to go well for them. /s
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
That’s kind of the point. If they see Israel as basically forfeit they’ll just destroy the whole region and take it with them. Given international sentiment and how belligerent Israel continues to be, they’re not far from ruining their ability to keep statehood.
malcolmrey@reddit
Have you confronted your dad about the geography and how does it work out for him?
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
He’s an old boomer that has always had a temper and lack of self awareness and it has not gotten better in his age. He argues just to argue to I usually don’t bother. I’m not sure if he meant because it’s on a bay and that little peninsula blocks hurricanes or if he thinks they won’t hit from the gulf side, either one has been debunked by past hurricanes.
malcolmrey@reddit
Ah, makes sense to just let it be. I know the type.
Cheers!
popcornsnacktime@reddit
I've been having this recurring feeling that I'm going to see nukes used in my lifetime. We're not there yet, thankfully, but the idea of witnessing a mushroom cloud on TikTok feels too real. At some point, we're going to have a nuclear power with nothing to lose. The worse conditions are overall, the less power mutually assured destruction holds.
Fr33_Lax@reddit
Israel will only use their nukes if leadership feels legitimately threatened. So far they're annoyed and using any excuse to start small wars.
holydark9@reddit
Saying it doesn’t make it happen, just makes us unpopular with the “this is fine” crowd. Hang in there.
SunnySummerFarm@reddit
Nobody likes the people who are right a lot of time because they can see the patterns. Including the people themselves. 🥴
pajamakitten@reddit
It also means we force people to confront reality. People live in a fantasy of their own making, often choosing to believe what they read in the media as the truth. The media says it is fine and they happily nod along. We then come along and show them concrete proof they are being manipulated and lied to, which causes them to freak out because it gives them a glimpse behind the curtain.
endoftheworldvibe@reddit
This is so fucking true.
P_mp_n@reddit
I told you so doesn't even feel good. It fucking sucks
malcolmrey@reddit
Spit it out. That's the only thing we have left!
yourtub5@reddit
Watching the full pivot into geoengineering weather conspiracies after the hurricanes has been quite the blackpill
walkinman19@reddit
The cognitive dissonance of the right is mind bending.
MAGA: Human activity does not affect the climate!
Also MAGA: The dems have hurricane making machines and are aiming them at red states!11!!!!
PowerandSignal@reddit
YEAH BABY!!!
rainydays052020@reddit
This is the dumbest timeline.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
This is the dumbest species. I include myself in that statement.
Brru@reddit
I've seen claims the DNC controls the weather since 2001. Nothing is new. Its all just click bait politics.
ven-dake@reddit
Nah they pivoted right at the time when covid wasn't an issue anymore and people needed something else to replace that void w its agenda 2030 and geoengineering now
breaducate@reddit
COVID isn't not an issue any more unless you're only referring to the narrative.
Barleyandjimes@reddit
I think many people have realized for awhile but they have to get up early for work tomorrow, the dog has a vet appointment this weekend, parent teacher conference next week, gotta get the car inspected next month, then the election, shit…it’s thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, rinse and repeat ad nauseam
Prospective_tenants@reddit
It never fucking ends until it does.
FuhrerGirthWorm@reddit
The fire fades
Taqueria_Style@reddit
It does the second we stop masking. I knew this from childhood and finally it pissed me off enough to test the theory.
I'm here to tell you the theory holds. Harder than you think.
reason_over_passion@reddit
The only question I have yet to answer for myself is at what point is the right point to end my life. I don’t want to take valuable resources away from those younger than me, and I don’t want to live through the incredible torture of watching the death tolls climb around the world. Starvation, thirst, heat, the inevitable wars. It’s unimaginable, the scale and injustice of it all. But: I have a wife and a young son. I love them both beyond measure. I feel responsible for making sure that he in particular has a shot at a life. What that shot actually means (will he be conscripted to a war?) is another question. But he deserves a chance, even in the new world. So, when the big winds come, do I stay for him? Or do I go for the rest of us, and me? I don’t know.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
As someone that lost their parents recently, you're sticking around as long as possible.
Sorry.
Call_It_@reddit
You’re cooked the moment you’re conceived/born. Why is that lost on everyone?
IndieStoner@reddit
That's the ticket.
Most people spend their entire lives running from an absolute certainty: We are going to die.
The entire story of humanity is no different than a typical human life. The brief illusion of permanence followed by an inevitable return to the void.
Life is but a dream.
mangafan96@reddit
To cope with reality, I've embraced (Absurdism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism) with heavy influence from Taoism/Dudeism
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Dude-ism??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Mbj06Ns2Y&t=87s
IndieStoner@reddit
Ah, yeah nothing wrong with that.
I definitely tried my hand at absurdism, and briefly passed through my own interpretation of epicureanism, but I think sheer curiosity is what keeps me going more than anything... which I supposed is absurd in its own right lol.
I've always loved True Detective Season 1 for Matthew McConaughey's character, despite his worldview being deeply seated in anger and despair, the writers did well in describing some of the poignant truths we find in nihilism and its children.
Rust Cohle: I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, this accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing. Walk hand in hand into extinction. One last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
Marty Hart: So what's the point of getting out of bed in the morning?
Rust Cohle: I tell myself I bear witness, but the real answer is that it's obviously my programming. And I lack the constitution for suicide.
BowelMan@reddit
My thoughts? Okay. I think... humanity is a thin layer of bacteria on a ball of mud hurtling through the void. I think if there was a god, he would've given up on us long ago. He gave us a paradise, and we used everything up. We dug up every ounce of energy and burned it. We consume and excrete, use and destroy. Then we sit here on a neat little pile of ashes, having squeezed anything of value out of this planet, and we ask ourselves, "Why are we here?" You wanna know what I think your purpose is? It's obvious. You're here, along with the rest of us, to speed the entropic death of this planet. To service the chaos. We're maggots eating a corpse.
Call_It_@reddit
Terror Management Theory…everyone is just distracting themselves from their mortality. Some are better at distracting themselves than others.
ethree@reddit
This. "The Denial of Death" book is heavy. Life changing.
InvestigatorOdd2885@reddit
I’m reading this book right now.
It’s crazy coming up with your own thoughts regarding your existence. Thinking about the pieces regarding life and how they affect one another, and then this book putting the same thoughts into words.
It’s as if I’m apart or some cult. A cult of people separate from normal society. People more aware of the nature of human existence.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
What really keeps me sad is, maybe they ARE aware.
They're also aware what happens if they're the odd chimp in the bunch. We only symbolically rip your arms off and beat you to death with them but it's the same intent.
InvestigatorOdd2885@reddit
Exactly! I have a few friends who are aware. It seems like a subject people are scared to talk about if they have come to this conclusion.
I wish we would normalize death instead of running from it. That way we would all be a little less terrified of it.
I honestly feel like the reason we fear death so much is due to societal conditioning. I think it’s a scary subject regardless, but if we all kind of accepted our mortality and pointless existence, we’d probably get along a little better.
comadrejautista@reddit
That damned book. Read it recently. Mentally it felt like being repeatedly kicked in the balls and then stabbed a few times for good measure. Worth it, 10/10 experience would recommend if you wanna see some truth. Slightly outdated/somewhat wrong in some stuff but I'm talking like 5% or less of the book. Everything else is still relevant 50~ years later
PimpinNinja@reddit
I'm at peace with mine.
Call_It_@reddit
I’m trying to be, but everyone spazzing out around me with distractions is making it really difficult, lol.
Majestic-Bowler-6184@reddit
Life is a dream All dreams must fade Wash the spears!
Safewordharder@reddit
How do you want this dream to end?
You've gotta feel it.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Bingo.
dumnezero@reddit
It's not lost, it's a useless observation in this context.
Ridit5ugx@reddit
I’ve been poor my entire life and working a good portion of my life. So I already know what it’s like and what it means to be “cooked.” It’s just that most people started to experience that first hand at the start of the pandemic.
baconraygun@reddit
I remember the amount of people who were so flattened by "Oh I have to stay home? ALL the time? I can't go out to eat? I can't go to a movie or a concert?!!" when I hadn't been able to afford those things for quite some time. I said to my friends, "have those people never been poor before? Never had to go without because if you went to the Depeche Mode concert, you couldn't make rent?"
mastermind_loco@reddit (OP)
My feelings, as well.
RedRune0@reddit
Heh, "cooked". Nice one, I chuckled.
Psychological-Sport1@reddit
Elon musk needs to attach giant sunshade reflective foil umbrellas to each of his satellites (to reflect the suns rays into space)
Top-Construction4795@reddit
RemindMe! Eight Years
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Hilda-Ashe@reddit
"I hate it when I'm right"
-Doomers everywhere
glasshomonculous@reddit
This is what hurts the most. I am a bit of a doomer in that I know we’re cooked. Probably literally, but I try so hard not to think about it so I can live as “normal” a life as possible. And everyone is like “yeah doomer a love collapse” etc. um, no, we don’t love this, we just happen to be aware of it.
I’ve only ever wanted to be proven wrong on one thing in my life and it’s this. I am begging to be wrong.
Reasonable_Swan9983@reddit
Being sensitive is literally the opposite of being a doomer. Unfortunately we're so desensitized we're killing ourselves without realizing.
BowelMan@reddit
My thoughts? Okay. I think... humanity is a thin layer of bacteria on a ball of mud hurtling through the void. I think if there was a god, he would've given up on us long ago. He gave us a paradise, and we used everything up. We dug up every ounce of energy and burned it. We consume and excrete, use and destroy. Then we sit here on a neat little pile of ashes, having squeezed anything of value out of this planet, and we ask ourselves, "Why are we here?" You wanna know what I think your purpose is? It's obvious. You're here, along with the rest of us, to speed the entropic death of this planet. To service the chaos. We're maggots eating a corpse.
Hollocene13@reddit
I say ‘welcome to America’ a lot.
trickortreat89@reddit
I get unreasonable angry with people like this. I feel I should be happy each time a new person wakes up, but I can’t help thinking that it’s too late and it annoys me somehow
sgnsinner@reddit
It's the multiple ways we're fucked too 😅
apwiseman@reddit
We have to survive the next 10 years of crippling inflation, before the gangbang. My girlfriend pointed out the other day...Oil for an oil change was 15% more expensive, and Toilet paper bought at a discount was 22% more expensive...and those aren't food items. My salary hasn't increased by 15% FML.
dumnezero@reddit
Bidet time
bistrovogna@reddit
For myself, the blow was that I realized nothing substantial would be done to avoid consequences laid out by science. My thoughts on humanity's potential changed.
To react to something you can see and feel yourself is exactly how I think most operate. The majority will act according to recent history, which will not prevent further degradation of everything.
TheGisbon@reddit
We're gunna wish we had the cyberpunk dystopia when this ball starts literally killing us.
mastermind_loco@reddit (OP)
Submission statement: I've been experiencing this a lot lately as a result. I think the genocide in Palestine and the unfolding conflict in Lebanon, in addition to recent catastrophic weather events, is making the general public a lot more aware of our civilization's fragility. How will the public handle climate chaos and increasing wars?
Playongo@reddit
Fascism unfortunately.
KnowledgeMediocre404@reddit
Sure looks that way, socialism would have been so nice…
merikariu@reddit
Where you live greatly influences how collapse-aware one is. Some places are already collapsing in meaningful, permanent ways, even in the "imperial cores" of Europe and the USA. In the USA, it's fentanyl, homeless, and extreme weather events, with a dash of mass shootings.
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/mastermind_loco:
Submission statement: I've been experiencing this a lot lately online and in real life. The genocide in Palestine and the unfolding conflict in Lebanon, in addition to recent catastrophic weather events, is making the general public a lot more aware of how fragile our civilization is. How will the public handle climate chaos and increasing wars? And what will be the political consequences of these new realities, as awareness continues to set in with the public?
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1g1k0pv/any_time_someone_new_realizes_how_cooked_we_are/lrh0o9i/
Playongo@reddit
Fascism unfortunately.