Not in one with adjustable ride height. No one has. What are the chances this fancy system fails mid drive? In a shitty beatup 40year old Ikarus bus it's 0%.
Chattanooga, TN has been running electric shuttle busses since 1992, with air suspension so they drop down at stops to put the step almost onto the curb. They started with lead-acid batteries and have used NiMH, in 2016 most of them had been changed to lithium-ion. Might be going to LiFePo4 soon or perhaps they'll skip that for sodium-ion.
Every bus in my city has air suspension, so that they can "kneel" to make it easier for passengers to get on and off. They've been that way for at least 20 years that I can remember
Why does it need (huge ass) headlights and freaking WHY are those on everyone's eye level?
Design/Industry menz in the room can answer? I can't fathom it. And I'm sure that's not where you should position optical clusters in any vehicle and again, why does it need lights anyway, robots/autonomous stuff have low/no light sensors since forever AFAIK.
Several of the vehicles are just shameless copies of decades-old designs from legitimate manufacturers. The cyber truck looks like someone spent 45 years making a shittier version of an Aston Martin Bulldog. The cyber cab or whatever the fuck he's calling it looks like a Volvo YCC from 20 years ago. The original Tesla roadster was nice, but he had no part in that one.
After replacing a fuck ton of systems because it turns out that running everything off the flywheel and alternator makes way different power than a battery.
Just because the cyber truck also leans heavily into a hard edge, minimalist aesthetic, doesn’t mean it is a shameless copy of tge one-off, 2-door Aston Martin concept cars. The proportions are wildly different
Musk is almost entirely responsible for the first Roadster. Tesla basically hadn't even started on a car by the time he was running things, and they wanted to use an off the shelf propulsion system. Musk picked the Lotus, and the guys he brought on designed the propulsion system. The original owners had basically nothing to do with designing the first Roadster.
I hate Musk with a passion, but I'm tired of the dumb misinformation.
In primary school I was taught public speaking with the teacher holding a bicycle horn. Whenever you went "uh" and "um" the teacher would honk the horn to teach you it's distracting and that it's better to just stay quiet for a second instead of making that noise. By the end of it you had a classroom of 10 year olds with better public speaking skills than the world's richest man.
It's the continuous cycle of "I don't need to prepare, I've got this. I know everything" and then the deer-in-the-headlights moment of actually having to speak, but with no true faith in himself or firmly-rooted confidence. The funny thing is he hears from no one but yes-men and therefore never learns.
driving experience: constant sparks and grinding from construction crews cutting and grading to 1” below the road surface and then waiting 2 years to repave
Imagine Tesla just made a van in this art deco style for families instead of trying to showcase self driving cars that we know aren’t viable yet. I don’t like Elon, but I do know electric cars are important and Tesla with or without him could have had a slam dunk on re imagining the mini van here and it wouldn’t sell like a model 3 but would be more popular and less of a disaster than the cyber truck.
I'm all for the advancement of technology and moving to something that's (hopefully) better for the environment, but why do so many electric vehicles have to be so ugly?
As much as I dislike most of musky pits doing, this is actually rather cool. Like, 1920s peak steam age futurism cool, I can totally picture something like this in a "into the future" illustration waiting for passengers next to big streamliner locos, however these days, I'm 99% sure it's gonna remain a concept being shown every now and then with the rat explaining how it's so close to being released for real now guys
In my experience it's the personal vehicles that make travel in the inner city so rough. Running more public transit and discouraging cars in inner cities would go a lot further than more, smaller busses.
A bus this size is going to be pretty awkward with randos, as well.
It’s a little utopian but I think the idea is a good one, at least.
The biggest problem with it is I don’t believe that fully autonomous driving is a nut that has been completely cracked yet. Maybe they’ll get there, but I’m sure it will take a lot longer than Elon would like.
Another problem I haven’t seen a solution for: What happens when you summon a Cybertaxi on a Saturday night and it arrives filled with vomit, piss, shit and/or a comatose drunk person? The utopian vision doesn’t really account for how filthy and disgusting some people can be when unsupervised.
Fully autonomous driving is not there and never will be.
Construction zones.
Traffic shifts in a construction zone change frequently, multiple times a day sometimes. It's difficult for some drivers to navigate them. Autonomous cars will never be able to. Throw in nighttime and rain to make it extra hard...
I understand it’s the hip thing to shit on anything Elon Musk does, but I like this. The art deco futurism is cool and looks like something from a 60s Sci fi show.
Nixia64@reddit
=_= lookin ass
XxcOoPeR93xX@reddit
Looks like the Robo transports from iRobot
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
‘I, Robot’ Director Calls Out Elon Musk for Aping His Work: ‘Can I Have My Designs Back?’
XxcOoPeR93xX@reddit
I mean they're similar but bro cannot possibly think he coined the concept of near-future sci-fi. 😂
ZuStorm93@reddit
"You are experiencing a car accident."
"THE HELL I AM?!"
ZuybluX@reddit
and ironically Tesla has also been talking about their robots recently….
LefsaMadMuppet@reddit
I was thinking the head of a decapitated Iron Man suit.
porilo@reddit
The iRobot transport meets a clown car
Sea_Cycle_909@reddit
I,Robot flashbacks USR Robot Transport
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
‘I, Robot’ Director Calls Out Elon Musk for Aping His Work: ‘Can I Have My Designs Back?’
Sea_Cycle_909@reddit
Thanks didn't know about that.
Adventurous-Gift-863@reddit
Johnny Cab from Total Recall it’s not. https://images.app.goo.gl/b4qNxDevh8zptjMVA
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
Wrong movie lol
‘I, Robot’ Director Calls Out Elon Musk for Aping His Work: ‘Can I Have My Designs Back?’
Adventurous-Gift-863@reddit
Good point
Blackdogglazed@reddit
When did I end up in the world from I Robot?!?
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
‘I, Robot’ Director Calls Out Elon Musk for Aping His Work: ‘Can I Have My Designs Back?’
KingHauler@reddit
Felon Musk likes iRobot a little too much huh.
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
‘I, Robot’ Director Calls Out Elon Musk for Aping His Work: ‘Can I Have My Designs Back?’
Puzzleheaded_Bass581@reddit
what wheels
FiliPower7@reddit
That's Spenser from Thomas and friends
CriperBross@reddit
No.
proffessorbiscuit@reddit
Zero ground clearance. Can't wait for it to try to pull into a dunkin and get clobbered
american_wino@reddit
It has an adjustable ride height air suspension.
Benegger85@reddit
How high does it go?
We have some very aggressive speed bumps in my neighborhood
fulltiltboogie1971@reddit
Higher than giraffe nuts!
BuckManscape@reddit
In a high occupancy vehicle. That’s not incredibly stupid is it?
M1RR0R@reddit
You've never been on a bus before have you?
Soggy_Cheek_2653@reddit
Not in one with adjustable ride height. No one has. What are the chances this fancy system fails mid drive? In a shitty beatup 40year old Ikarus bus it's 0%.
GreggAlan@reddit
Chattanooga, TN has been running electric shuttle busses since 1992, with air suspension so they drop down at stops to put the step almost onto the curb. They started with lead-acid batteries and have used NiMH, in 2016 most of them had been changed to lithium-ion. Might be going to LiFePo4 soon or perhaps they'll skip that for sodium-ion.
MrDonDiarrhea@reddit
Every bus in my city has it too
Turbulent_Worker856@reddit
Every bus in my city has air suspension, so that they can "kneel" to make it easier for passengers to get on and off. They've been that way for at least 20 years that I can remember
Soggy_Cheek_2653@reddit
Okay, fine. You expect that fucking thing to work though?
Turbulent_Worker856@reddit
The Tesla garbage? Nah, it looks fucking ridiculous. I was just pointing out that air suspension in buses is actually very common
cateraide420@reddit
I think it’s a concept but nevertheless.
M1RR0R@reddit
Even by concept standards it's quarter-baked
fulltiltboogie1971@reddit
Monday morning quarter baked????🤣🤣
Angelworks42@reddit
Zero ground clearance and no windows - worst bus ever
Mackelroy_aka_Stitch@reddit
It seats like 9 people well.
_night_cat@reddit
It’ll be banned in Boston
1DownFourUp@reddit
It's ironing the streets
Stompya@reddit
I was waiting for the toast to pop up.
AnalogKid-001@reddit
Reason for that is when it hits people they just bounce and slide right over the top.
quad_damage_orbb@reddit
I love how it slowly creeps forward in steps because the driver probably can't see where they are parked at all.
Fabulous_Force9868@reddit
Reminds me of the garbage trucks in Robots back years ago
BicycleDense8021@reddit
Or ramp for ada
stroppy@reddit
That wouldn’t make it a mile in my hilly city.
fulltiltboogie1971@reddit
Quick, somebody throw a rock at it, if it's a real Tesla it should just bounce right off.
GreggAlan@reddit
It needs to have the Johnnycab voice.
Charming-Land-3231@reddit
Why does it need (huge ass) headlights and freaking WHY are those on everyone's eye level?
Design/Industry menz in the room can answer? I can't fathom it. And I'm sure that's not where you should position optical clusters in any vehicle and again, why does it need lights anyway, robots/autonomous stuff have low/no light sensors since forever AFAIK.
OkiDokiPanic@reddit
I wanna see it clear a speedbump.
the_jak@reddit
They’re truly great at designing hideous vehicles
PointyDogElbows@reddit
Several of the vehicles are just shameless copies of decades-old designs from legitimate manufacturers. The cyber truck looks like someone spent 45 years making a shittier version of an Aston Martin Bulldog. The cyber cab or whatever the fuck he's calling it looks like a Volvo YCC from 20 years ago. The original Tesla roadster was nice, but he had no part in that one.
LeroyoJenkins@reddit
The original Tesla Roadster was a Lotus Elise. Literally.
Tesla bought 2500 Lotus Elise gliders (the whole car minus the power train) and added its own electric power train and sold them.
SustyRhackleford@reddit
Pretty sure thats pre-elon though
Soggy_Cheek_2653@reddit
Elon became chairman of the board Feb 2004. No such thing as "pre Elon Tesla".
MrDonDiarrhea@reddit
He didn’t found Tesla
CookInKona@reddit
It's easy to tell because the roadster was actually a decent vehicle
LASERDICKMCCOOL@reddit
One of the most beautiful cars ever designed
the_jak@reddit
After replacing a fuck ton of systems because it turns out that running everything off the flywheel and alternator makes way different power than a battery.
Threedawg@reddit
"He" has no part in any of them
MaddieStirner@reddit
"He"?
Threedawg@reddit
Musk
MaddieStirner@reddit
Yeah, gathered but what do you mean "he"?
adotang@reddit
It's a quote from the comment being replied to, which didn't actually name Elon and only alluded to him:
MaddieStirner@reddit
Oh ok
Threedawg@reddit
Yes.
Hexagonal_Bagel@reddit
Just because the cyber truck also leans heavily into a hard edge, minimalist aesthetic, doesn’t mean it is a shameless copy of tge one-off, 2-door Aston Martin concept cars. The proportions are wildly different
Soggy_Cheek_2653@reddit
Yeah, musk hateboner is too insane. There's enough things he fucked up, pulling things out your ass just makes his detractors look like liars
Mein_Bergkamp@reddit
The original Tesla roadster was a lotus
Conch-Republic@reddit
Musk is almost entirely responsible for the first Roadster. Tesla basically hadn't even started on a car by the time he was running things, and they wanted to use an off the shelf propulsion system. Musk picked the Lotus, and the guys he brought on designed the propulsion system. The original owners had basically nothing to do with designing the first Roadster.
I hate Musk with a passion, but I'm tired of the dumb misinformation.
Frankie_T9000@reddit
Source?
Users5252@reddit
The roadster gen 2 design was pretty nice
the_jak@reddit
If you like that, I’ve got a hydrogen powered pickup from Nikola to sell you.
the_jak@reddit
This thing looks like they’re ripping off Dirt Devil
Thiezing@reddit
Looks like a toaster. Just add Pop-Tarts.
Saint_The_Stig@reddit
Hey it's less ugly than the Cybertruck, though that's a bar so low this thing might be able to clear it.
Upgraded from "car you draw in first grade" to "shitty movie prop".
iowajosh@reddit
You gonna think different when Judge Dred climbs out of there.
GruelOmelettes@reddit
I always wanted to drive a big electric stapler
Con5ume@reddit
He is such a poor public speaker. He says uh and um more than a recent graduate in their first meeting ever.
OkiDokiPanic@reddit
In primary school I was taught public speaking with the teacher holding a bicycle horn. Whenever you went "uh" and "um" the teacher would honk the horn to teach you it's distracting and that it's better to just stay quiet for a second instead of making that noise. By the end of it you had a classroom of 10 year olds with better public speaking skills than the world's richest man.
IknowKarazy@reddit
It's the continuous cycle of "I don't need to prepare, I've got this. I know everything" and then the deer-in-the-headlights moment of actually having to speak, but with no true faith in himself or firmly-rooted confidence. The funny thing is he hears from no one but yes-men and therefore never learns.
mc1964@reddit
Seriously, Elon watches waaaay too much sci-fi.
Saint_The_Stig@reddit
I'd argue not enough, lol. There are B-movies with better looking props to rip off.
AlienOzz@reddit
Looks easily breable
Hoovooloo42@reddit
Looks like that plastic Pontiac minivan finally completed it's transition into a dustbuster
Gagthor@reddit
The guys losing their shit about this thing confirm for me that loving Elmo is a sign of mental illness.
jabbadarth@reddit
What?!?!!
neophlegm@reddit
Today I learned people yell "What is happening right now!?" in real life with no sense of irony and now I'm sad.
that_guy_scott1@reddit
Looks like that safe ship from Futurama.
SatanakanataS@reddit
“I’ve got the need for speed!”
“Well I’ve got the nafety for safety.”
That was my first thought, too.
M0joMo3@reddit
E X T E R M I N A T E
badbatch@reddit
I looks like a rollie pollie bug.
rlnrlnrln@reddit
DeathBus!
DeltaGammaVegaRho@reddit
Like cyberstuck but in addition you get sick because it doesn’t have front windows? Count me in! NOT.
Solo_is_dead@reddit
It's a F'ing monorail
ImNotAlpharius@reddit
They've got one in North Haverbrook.
UrDeAdPuPpYbOnEr@reddit
I’ve heard that they are awfully loud?!
GruelOmelettes@reddit
Robo = robotic
Van = van
And that concludes our intensive six-week course
WideFoot@reddit
Monorail in that it is a worse way to do trains and busses.
For the love of God, can we please just build trains and busses.
GruelOmelettes@reddit
I mean sure, I don't disagree. I was just quoting the Simpsons
Candid_Royal1733@reddit
I think if you own any Tesla shares these days get rid of them asap..
this is kind of sad
Bavid_Dyrne@reddit
Why the fuck are the headlights so high up?!
flecksable_flyer@reddit
That's going to bottom out on everything.
Whole-Debate-9547@reddit
Get in now. Taking orders for delivery in 2050
FogduckemonGo@reddit
Was fully expecting some killer robots to come out
CarbonReflections@reddit
Elon Musk is a fascist traitor.
Busterlimes@reddit
Can't wait to see these on the road in 15 years
oyog@reddit
And then recalled six months later! What fun!
4000grx41@reddit
How many times though
Puffball973@reddit
Yes.
Kone9923@reddit
Elon is living in a Total Recall reality.... That bus is hideous
dreamweaver1313@reddit
Hol up ..... Fuck elon musk
BicycleDense8021@reddit
A minibus with a driver would create more jobs and be much more reliable. This is hot garbage.
Strategory@reddit
Movie prop bs. Supposed to look like it is floating?
Melodic_Turnover_877@reddit
Looks like a toaster from the 1930s.
Soggy_Cabbage@reddit
Being a Tesla product they could only dream of achieving the build quality that toasters had in the 1930s.
Camarupim@reddit
Probably about as safe too.
rationalcrank@reddit
And just as capable of driving through traff.
Important_Plum1858@reddit
At least those are wanted by collectors
LemmonLizard@reddit
One pothole and it's cooked
ADAMSMASHRR@reddit
driving experience: constant sparks and grinding from construction crews cutting and grading to 1” below the road surface and then waiting 2 years to repave
patheticflesh@reddit
wow looks like shit
sriva041@reddit
Is this mounted on model X battery pack?
sriva041@reddit
Looks like ifs out of the Judge Dredd universe
V4_Sleeper@reddit
looks cool in a closed setting. on the roads this shit will look hideous
Thatguy468@reddit
On its way to a fancy dinner at… Taco Bell of course.
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
The only restaurant to survive the franchise wars…
Thatguy468@reddit
This guy 👆 knows how the three seashells work!
Benegger85@reddit
Is nobody going to mention the ridiculously high headlights? They will blind anybody not driving an SUV
radiationcowboy@reddit
That's the vans from TimeCop.
Mountain-Struggle531@reddit
Every pothole will get this stuck
YourFriendPutin@reddit
Imagine Tesla just made a van in this art deco style for families instead of trying to showcase self driving cars that we know aren’t viable yet. I don’t like Elon, but I do know electric cars are important and Tesla with or without him could have had a slam dunk on re imagining the mini van here and it wouldn’t sell like a model 3 but would be more popular and less of a disaster than the cyber truck.
Skwidz@reddit
Fanboys are gooning because Elon built a bus What's next, trains?
Weneeddietbleach@reddit
I'm all for the advancement of technology and moving to something that's (hopefully) better for the environment, but why do so many electric vehicles have to be so ugly?
flanksteakfan82@reddit
Where were they presenting this? It looks like a neighborhood/movie set.
Falstaffe@reddit
We have just folded space from Ix
Riverrat423@reddit
Looks like a retro futuristic locomotive.
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
Yeah, this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/cIliCe9ojK
And this: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/dizajn—671036413214763856/
Riverrat423@reddit
Yeah, at least it looks better than the Cybertruck.
-NickFlores-@reddit
Looks like a retrofuturistic locomotive
Viperking6481@reddit
What the hell are they cheering for when the thing stops?
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
… that it CAN stop?! 🤷♂️
85_Draken@reddit
Your Daft Punk helmet has arrived.
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
Finally!
humakavulaaaa@reddit
Oh no
ScottaHemi@reddit
oh god it's real... i thought this was just a render...
DSP27@reddit
Saying it's real is perhaps too much. Let's say it's a mock up
Macroft@reddit
it's as real as a movie prop, only its a shareholder prop.
y2leon@reddit
Futuristic Art Deco, like the vehicles from Tim Burton's Batman the Animated Series, I love it
MomsAgainstGravity@reddit
Looks like what they thought Alien ships would look like in the 60's, something out of Dr Who maybes.
T5-R@reddit
"Moving along citizen"
kdsekira@reddit
Like a bus but for stupid people
Zhaopow@reddit
The crowd screaming is exactly the kind of person who I picture being an Elon fan
xheist@reddit
Tech bro invents the tram
AnthrallicA@reddit
I like how the headlights are at eye level for a seated person. Oncoming traffic hates this one simple trick...
racoon1969@reddit
So, like a bus, but worse.
roaringbasher66@reddit
I kinda like it, looks neato but I'm worried about it's interaction with curbs and speedbumbs it looks pretty lowdown
ateaplasticstraw@reddit
As much as I dislike most of musky pits doing, this is actually rather cool. Like, 1920s peak steam age futurism cool, I can totally picture something like this in a "into the future" illustration waiting for passengers next to big streamliner locos, however these days, I'm 99% sure it's gonna remain a concept being shown every now and then with the rat explaining how it's so close to being released for real now guys
Suspicious_Fail_2337@reddit
Let's try it on the belgian Roads...
IFYOUWOULDPLEAZ@reddit
Tesla Robovan
NikkolaiV@reddit
So he stole the Monorail from Epcot?
n3w4cc01_1nt@reddit
don't like what he's doing but still like the concept of smaller autonomous public transport vehicles.
could make inner city travel a lot better.
KerPop42@reddit
In my experience it's the personal vehicles that make travel in the inner city so rough. Running more public transit and discouraging cars in inner cities would go a lot further than more, smaller busses.
A bus this size is going to be pretty awkward with randos, as well.
DMala@reddit
It’s a little utopian but I think the idea is a good one, at least.
The biggest problem with it is I don’t believe that fully autonomous driving is a nut that has been completely cracked yet. Maybe they’ll get there, but I’m sure it will take a lot longer than Elon would like.
Another problem I haven’t seen a solution for: What happens when you summon a Cybertaxi on a Saturday night and it arrives filled with vomit, piss, shit and/or a comatose drunk person? The utopian vision doesn’t really account for how filthy and disgusting some people can be when unsupervised.
Dr_Adequate@reddit
Fully autonomous driving is not there and never will be.
Construction zones.
Traffic shifts in a construction zone change frequently, multiple times a day sometimes. It's difficult for some drivers to navigate them. Autonomous cars will never be able to. Throw in nighttime and rain to make it extra hard...
_NauticalPhoenix_@reddit
I understand it’s the hip thing to shit on anything Elon Musk does, but I like this. The art deco futurism is cool and looks like something from a 60s Sci fi show.
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
Yeah I'm a sucker for Art Deco, so I like the look also.
Sweet_Concept2211@reddit
It looks like a Roomba for kidnapping prospective blood boys.
blacknova84@reddit
Insurance companies are already dropping the truck. WTH would you make a even more hideous autonomous vehicle that probably wont be covered?
MiracleDreamBeam@reddit
imagine being seen coming out of this thing...
possumK@reddit
To quote Neo, Jesus Christ that thing's real?!?
BadWolfRU@reddit
Tesla Robovan
YanniRotten@reddit (OP)
That's it's real name.
DMala@reddit
Pronounced ro-BO-van according to Musk.
Ultimate_Gamer7@reddit
cybertoaster
Important_Plum1858@reddit
What in the 50s LED toaster over hell is that ugly thing?!
swampboy62@reddit
Coolest thing it could possibly do would be to park on Elongated Muskrat's face.