Handley Page Victor with a window of the visual bomb aiming position
Posted by Aeromarine_eng@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 66 comments
Posted by Aeromarine_eng@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 66 comments
Ruin369@reddit
"The Navigator-Plotter of a Handley Page Victor B.1 pictured in the window of the visual bomb aiming position, RAF Cottesmore, June 1959.
© IWM RAF-T 1010"
The picture quality is great for 1959!
Mobryan71@reddit
We were making chemically and mechanically INCREDIBLE film at this point, remember it's the peak of things like film based aerial reconnaissance and spy-sats with film return capsules.
The problem with old images are two-fold, poor archival procedures causing damage to the prints, and (primarily, IMO) bad scans/transmissions/digital conversions/image formats from the first big push to preserve and digitalize content like this.
Worst part of that initial push for digital preservation is that it both caused people to get less diligent about physical archive procedures, and gave governments/organizations an excuse to cut costs by disposing of the negatives and prints since "we have them on CD now" without considering how quickly the tech would improve to create even better scans. Scans we have lost the chance to ever see, because the original media was binned immediately after the first mediocre scans were created.
_leg@reddit
I work with an archivist; the issue is even worse than improved scanning options now. The problem is that everything was thrown on CDs or early portable HDDs and we’re losing so many things now because 1) the CDs have completely degraded 2) so few computers even have disk drives anymore 3) the early hard drives are failing and no one backed up on multiple drives and 4) the connectors to these old drives are obsolete. There’s a terrible digital void from the late 90s through the early/mid 2000s and we’ve already lost so much.
particlegun@reddit
I love that image of the bombardier glaring at the person daring to take the picture.
SpeakerGood8938@reddit
British
SvenMainah@reddit
What is the plane in the background?
Dramatic_Round4452@reddit
One of my favorite Cold War bombers
Burphel_78@reddit
I know the nose is the ideal spot for radar and other electronics. But I also mourn the possibilities of a big glass-nosed observation lounge in airliners. Of course, I couldn't afford the ultra-mega first class ticket to sit there anyway.
MiguelMenendez@reddit
Dirigibles would have been awesome!
cb_cooper@reddit
Man, whatever happened to blimps?
Vfrnut@reddit
They get shot down in war really fast.
wildskipper@reddit
Looked this up the other day as it was mentioned in the Horrible Histories I was watching with my son. Germans had 115 zeppelins in WW1 and 77 of those were shot down/disabled in air raids by 1917.
Vfrnut@reddit
14 balloons and 4 defender planes by pilot Frank Luke jr. 18 kills in 10 days , before being killed himself . A record for WW1.
Harpies_Bro@reddit
Hydrogen fires, mostly. R-101 burnt up after crashing in France and Hindenburg went up on landing in New Jersey, and those two basically doomed passenger airships.
Luname@reddit
Speed.
12lubushby@reddit
They are faster than most people think. The Hindenburg got up to 78 mph / 135kph
brownhotdogwater@reddit
Still slower than 400+ of a 737
obnoxioustwin@reddit
I would not mind travelling at the speed of a car but with much better views. Also being able to stand up and walk around.
12lubushby@reddit
It's 3x faster than an ocean liner, but they were used until the 60s. There are other reasons why they stopped making them
cb_cooper@reddit
“Uh hello, airplanes? Yeah, it’s blimps. You win.”
Gene--Unit90@reddit
"Jesus, Lana, the helium!"
Beli_Mawrr@reddit
big helium muscled em out.
Regular_Working_6342@reddit
It's a helium filled rigid airship!
vonHindenburg@reddit
Indeed.
JimboTheSimpleton@reddit
The idea for the nose cone came to the designer in a dream.
3rr0r-403@reddit
I really love the cockpit of the Tu-134. With the glass nose must have been an amazing view and experience flying in that seat! And the Tu-134 had an bump on the belly near the cockpit to put electronics there.
cstross@reddit
Agreed, the ringside seats for the bird strikes would be amazing!
Donttellhimpike1979@reddit
Amazing aircraft!
fear_the_future@reddit
Best seat in the house.
Longjumping-Dog9476@reddit
Do ugly :D
Ok-Bar-8473@reddit
What's the pipe for?
Hajmish@reddit
Refueling?
Adamp891@reddit
No, once the air to air refuelling probe on a victor was mounted above the cockpit, I'm not sure Mk1 victors had the capacity for in-flight refuelling. Either way, it's not fitted in the image.
I'm not sure what the probe on the tip of the nose is. My guess is it's a pitot probe for instrumentation.
Foreign_Athlete_7693@reddit
If I remember correctly, it's actually the pitot for the artificial feel feedback system
Hajmish@reddit
Yes I think I've seen them with the probe higher.
Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit
looking at the first picture after reading the title of the post... no way.... it can't be.... going to the second picture, and of course it is just as amazing as I thought.
Feisty_Anteater_9580@reddit
Such a cool looking bird!
Stormwatcher33@reddit
prime viewing spot for nuclear blasts
vonHindenburg@reddit
What is he actually using to aim with? Where's the site?
NotAnActualPers0n@reddit
There’s a small hole they spit through and gauge the trail as it falls.
Setesh57@reddit
It's called the visual bomb aiming station for a reason.
Zealousideal_Cod6044@reddit
Laughed at your reply, it makes perfect sense to ask where's the sight because it isn't apparent. I imagined him saying "Left a bit, Pilot. That's good, hold it there. Steady. Now here it comes, yes, ok, right... about... there should do it. Bombs gone. Let's head back for a cuppa."
Setesh57@reddit
In all seriousness though, there's probably a Norden bomb sight that can fold away.
Zealousideal_Cod6044@reddit
Thanks, in all seriousness it was the H2S based Navigation and Bombing System (NBS). Probably better than the often atrocious Norden bombsight which, by comparison, wasn't very serious at all.
DOOM_INTENSIFIES@reddit
"Yeah i can see the ground, bombs away!"
bubliksmaz@reddit
I guess when you're dropping nukes, that's pretty close to reality. Cross the Baltic then bombs away
LurpyGeek@reddit
100% hit rate
Captain_Gropius@reddit
My fav V-bomber, always liked the looks of it.
nafarba57@reddit
There STILL has not been a more futuristic, absolutely wild-looking aircraft, seventy-plus years on❤️❤️
frodfish@reddit
Painted in "anti-flash white" to reflect radiation.
frodfish@reddit
At least that was what they were selling...
Average-_-Student@reddit
First image makes the aircraft look like it has a 'stache and mouth.
Professor_Smartax@reddit
I hadn’t seen that nose position before.
Where’s t he radar
AccomplishedGreen904@reddit
In the chin
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
Below and behind the glassed-in section. It didn't need to be in the extreme nose because it was primarily ground-mapping and station-keeping wouldn't need much upward coverage.
https://www.key.aero/article/handley-page-victor-cutaway-get-under-skin-v-bomber
TraceyRobn@reddit
And it was a descendant of the H2S/H2X radar they used in WW2 in the Lancasters.
Reddit_reader_2206@reddit
I think that guy is the radar
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
"I don't see him"
"He's right over there for fucks sakes, do I have to drag you down here to have a look?"
Despairogance@reddit
jacksmachiningreveng@reddit
First Lieutenant Ray Dar
teversnen@reddit
Imagine having a window seat with a view... of dropping bombs. Talk about a unique perspective!
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
It's surprising to see vortex generators so far forward on a fuselage.
Shankar_0@reddit
My all-time favorite aircraft.
It's Darth Vader's grocery getter
MrOatButtBottom@reddit
Oi!
Sivalon@reddit
What a gorgeous airplane.
Cesalv@reddit
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