I hate the fact bullpups get hate. I love this thing.
Posted by FelineRetribution@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 93 comments
Posted by FelineRetribution@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 93 comments
moshdagoat@reddit
I love bullpups so much. I can’t resist buying all of them.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
I am in a spot.. so I have this, an FPC, and a Sig cross. I’m thinking of sacrificing one so I can take the others to the next level. The unmentioned AR is filling the mid range. FPC is just fun as fuck to use. And the Cross is my first bolt rifle. Told my friend, I paid just over 8 for this, looking for 7, but I’ll do 550/5 for you.
He don’t care. Hahah
Internal_Chemical_39@reddit
Wish you was my friend I would have took it off your hands I don't have any friends really 😕
SOUTHPAWMIKE@reddit
Same. I wish I lived in a free state, because I've been salivating over the VHS-2 (a.k.a. Hellion) for a few years now.
moshdagoat@reddit
I’m in California and have a hellion, you can get them. Honestly if I’m choosing my favorite bullpup I actually take out of my safe and shoot it’s my mdrx in 7.62. It’s heavy as shit but I love it.
SOUTHPAWMIKE@reddit
Ah, I guess I forgot that it accepts standard AR-15 grips. So if you stick a "paddle grip" on it, you're good to go?
moshdagoat@reddit
Yeah and a 20 inch barrel
-E-Cross@reddit
I want one of these. They are priced just right
grahamcrackerninja@reddit
Check out Lucky Irishman handguards. I put one on my RDB and it looks and functions much better now
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
I want to but I’m trying to get it off my hands. Focusing on other builds.
Pitiful-Pepper2021@reddit
Can't wait for the rm277
TXboyinGA@reddit
I like 'em. Only holding onto a KSG-12 at the moment (the original design, not the one I keep seeing now with the extended barrels. Looks odd to me.) Next month, I'll be snapping up a Springfield Hellion.
jsmoovewhoru@reddit
I've been wanting one... Just haven't made the leap yet
wolfenkraft@reddit
I love my tavor.
Diablosis-@reddit
Pullpups are great, I think the real issue is that we don't have anything like the ar-15 in the bullpup world. Something that's cheap, modular and reliable. Maybe that PSA bullpup will change things up a bit but it's kinda ugly imo 😬
Neon-Horse@reddit
I like bullpups. I never disliked them, but I waited until recently to try them.
SchuLace13@reddit
I love the idea of bullpups. The triggers not as much. That is where a lot of the hate comes from
sequesteredhoneyfall@reddit
/u/itsjeffreywayne
There's no reason triggers have to be bad on bullpups. Sure, there's a linkage, but plenty of aftermarket products exist which make them at least on par with a "good" AR trigger. There's no reason that we can't innovate and have it that way from stock.
The RDB in particular has a $15 aftermarket part which takes the trigger to the previously mentioned quality.
SchuLace13@reddit
That’s my issue. The ability to make them decent is there for most bullpups but the factories still put mush triggers in them.
left_write@reddit
What's the part?
itsjeffreywayne@reddit
Thanks, that’s what I was wondering.
tycoge@reddit
The rdb actually has a pretty good trigger, blows every bullpup out of the water.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Ahh. Yeah that is why I am excited for the la rue straight trigger I got on sale the other day. I’ve heard a lot of good things. Which is why I got the canik as well.
itsjeffreywayne@reddit
Does a straight trigger change the trigger pull? Is it the actual trigger people have issues with bullpups or the pull and weight due to design?
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
From what I read, you get a faster and somewhat more responsive fire because your finger isn’t moving those extra few mm to make contact with the trigger. With the straight one. With bullpups? I cam only imaginethat it was a flaw of design. But i don’t know for sure.
ZaneThePain@reddit
It is a “flaw” in that the trigger needs a longer linkage to get to the sear because it sits in front of the chamber by a few inches. Bullpup triggers have to move more mass further to disengage the sear essentially.
itsjeffreywayne@reddit
Right but shape of trigger doesn’t change the distance of a much longer trigger-sear linkage. That creates the mushy heavy trigger. But I have no idea if more modern iterations have done anything to remedy that issue
Khaden_Allast@reddit
If someone made a cheap, reliable .22lr bullpup, I think a lot of the hate would go away. Most people who hate on them haven't actually tried them, or have only tried a 10/22 in a cheap plastic shell. Something purpose built as a bullpup, that doesn't cost as much as a decent AR, would be a lot easier to get people to try.
VanVetiver@reddit
Picked up an RDB when PSA had them for $700 and I’ve got no complaints. Huge caveat, though - I’ve only used it as a range toy so far. Can’t speak to drawbacks when used in training scenarios.
United-Advertising67@reddit
I think the RDB is probably the best thing Kel-Tec ever made.
B4ND4GN@reddit
"I hate the fact that small dicks get hate. I love mine"
Sorry, I couldn't help it. It just seemed like the right place for this comment.
Siganid@reddit
Could you guys stand closer to the target at least?
I'm tired of mopping.
appealingrelic@reddit
My aunt used to have a sign over her toilet that read "stand close, it's shorter than you think" and until I was a teen, I always thought the sign referred to the toilet and was just sorta confused by the logistics of that. It finally clicked one day
B4ND4GN@reddit
I see these signs all the time by urinals. Then look down at the puddle from dudes missing.
CMR30Modder@reddit
I’ve heard that it is how you use it but not the size.
Hope that helps you bro.
Practice makes perfect and all that. Good on you for being body positive!
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
HEY AT LEAST MORE THAN NOBODY HAS. Plus, I don’t need to spend 100k on a 2 story truck to prove the same point!
binkobankobinkobanko@reddit
I love bullpups. I've got an X95 and PS90!
Beebjank@reddit
I regret selling my PS90
TheBrownSlaya@reddit
OOTL, why do they get hate
StrongChance4812@reddit
Eh To each their own. Only one that does it for me is the Aug.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
I loved the aug when I was young- the integrated rail. The overall design just looked like nature birthed it in the woods. Slim, sleek and not bad on the eyes. Then I was playing battlefield 4- years ago at a friends house. Found the RFB DMR. I shit bricks because it was in essence the halo BR. When I realized this was the same- but a slimmed down version that ran on 5.56- had to have it.
stevenrodgersBCB@reddit
It sounds like you need a KelTec RFB as well
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Well, I realized that I feel that way about things. Even for instance- people from the past. But over time, you realize you may not NEED that - but you’d be a lot happier with it.
Which is where I’m at right no trying to figure out which one to cut from the gang. I know I will sell the kel tec because I already have a self built 556, meaning that role is taken.
definitelynotpat6969@reddit
Funny, I fired a 7.62x51 Galil and fell in love with nearly a decade ago. I was always so sad playing BF4 that they didn't incorporate them into the game. So I settled for using the ACE DMR.
Fast forward several years later, I realized that I'm an idiot.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Although the Hellion is beautiful too. I just love how wacky and innovative kel tec is.
jexempt@reddit
you got no idea what you’re going to do, do you.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Fuck no. I wing it and tend to be lucky. But In this case.. ehh… it’s so hard to let the FPC go. Kinda like dating a woman that is super hot and always down for whatever- is fun yet doesn’t ask for a lot. The Cross is like a high class bitch who gets along with your friends, family, you, but if you can’t support it at a dollar a piece, she gets mad. Says you can’t provide for her because you can’t. Mainly because you’re also blowing money on 9mm because it’s fun and not so serious. And 556 because that’s the most capable.
jexempt@reddit
you live in centex?
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Nooo, where Robocop happened
jexempt@reddit
shit man good luck up there thanks for the laugh and the deets maybe see you on down the road.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
You too bro! If I find a way I may be south to help with the Floridia shit. Just need to find a way to find low volt contractors. (Cough * I don’t know where to go to sell these things )
jexempt@reddit
keep me posted if you do. i’m central texas and want to help but prob 20~30 hr commute before even available. have tried to help w several houston/louisiana hurricanes but always meet same prob-1. how to get there when essential highways closed/ flooded. 2. how to get close enough to launch boat and be effective. 3. how to get truck in water off edge of road to launch boat. 4. how to get boat back in trailer a few miles down from where you launched it. it’s an absolute shit show. 100s of other trucks and rigs doing same thing, following same weather updates/word of mouth police station updates on best routes to take that aren’t flooded. meanwhile the roads behind you are beginning to flood. there were 2 different people in houston we “rescued” while they were chest deep in flood waters trudging down a street, and couple hours after dropping them off at whatever gas station they asked us to, we happened across them again, trudging chest deep in in the same street, heading back towards their home. said they got coffee and called who they knew to call but nobody answered so they wanted to go back to their house. first floor was underwater but the second floor and roof were where they felt the safest. fucking nuts.
jexempt@reddit
dude im picking up on what you’re putting down 💯 rn😂
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Hahaha MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. I was hoping I could continue to draw the other two parallels once I started to realize what I was saying was done unconsciously.
anothercarguy@reddit
Pistols are almost all bull pups
Karukaya@reddit
I love bullpups. I don’t love bullpup prices.
Blue_Brindle@reddit
Bullpups are something that I always want to buy and always want to see more of on the market, it's a shame the prices on most of them make them compete direction with the other bullpups & high end ar's.
There's several I'd love to be manufactured.
Epyphyte@reddit
That one is very cool.
popeye44@reddit
I don't hate em, but as a mostly left handed shooter.. they are problematic. (I can shoot right handed but not as comfortably)
snuffy_bodacious@reddit
I love my RDB Defender.
thereddaikon@reddit
Well they are all compromised in one way or another. For the keltec my local gunsmiff told me to avoid it because he's had many with parts breakages come in and they aren't as easy to deal with as an AR. But if it isn't unreliable then its very expensive and annoying to work with like the AUG.
kwend54@reddit
Butt ugly!!!
chuckfinley79@reddit
Is the stock adjustable at all? I know it couldn’t move much because of the ejection port, but does it adjust and inch or 2 for length of pull?
Deleter182AC@reddit
I use 100 round 308 drums on it and 150 round drum in the 556 version . Loved it since battlefield 4
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
YUP. THAT is why I went for it. Weight distribution is… well thought out. It’s kinda dense but it’s balanced and close to the body. I can see why urban militaries would want a design like this. Do you have photos? I can only imagine..
Deleter182AC@reddit
I only got photos of my drum there both not here with me bec 556 had a issue on the chambering out of spec . And other I traded it bec I wanted a gali instead of it ( it’s a Gali feed mag well instead of ar 10 which I’m getting on Friday the drum )
Lord_Larper@reddit
The AUG is a dream gun of mine. Mostly as a collector
WombatAnnihilator@reddit
What’s the w sticker?
mchnikola1@reddit
Weyland-Yutani from the Alien series.
I dig the RDB, not sure what the round count is on mine, but it's run like a clock.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Whatchu mean, it is an aliens reference. I’m not at war lmfao
WombatAnnihilator@reddit
Ahh. Never seen any of those movies. I just knew the logo referenced something like that, and didn’t know what
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Ah fuck. So because Im uncultured swine who loves the intimidation of the unknown yet the action heroes of the 80’s- say Arnold and Robocop- of the I’d watch alien, watch aliens (2) , skip 3 and 4, watch 2 two more times. 3 is the same thing as 1 just reskinned as something new. I was immensely disappointed at the opening few scenes when I was a kid and thought.. this is gonna suck.
smokeyser@reddit
4 wasn't that bad. I never liked 3. 2 was by far the best in the series. And then there's Romulus which was just the studio going "let's make one more and put kids in it because adults were already sick of this 20 years ago".
On a side note... I wonder if you're being downvoted by people who actually thought 3 or 4 was best? The world really is full of weirdos!
specter800@reddit
Stolen Weyland-Yutani property.
there_was_no_god@reddit
needs laser etched instead of cheese stickers
Beebjank@reddit
This was my first gun that I bought the night I turned 18. 👍
armorylarpster@reddit
AUG supremacy entered the chat
RAMRODtheMASTER@reddit
I loved my RDB. Honestly one of very few I regret selling over the years.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
That’s not what I wanted to hear 😢 I mean… there this one !
DocMettey@reddit
The RDB is awesome
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
You are a prophet of truth. A seer of reality. May you be loaded from the rear forever. 🙏
ningenito78@reddit
Loaded from the rear? Please never pray for me
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Too late. The mechanism of willpower turns.
jexempt@reddit
LMAO
DavianElrian@reddit
I love bullpups. Wish I could afford my dream rifle.
ifunnywasaninsidejob@reddit
Solution in search of a problem ahhh gun.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
I just wish it could turn into dollar. Or it could turn things into dollars . Oh wait. That’s.. hahaha
Happily-Non-Partisan@reddit
People can think what they like, but right now an RDB Hunter (RDB C) may be the key to me fulfilling a promise to a friend in Washington.
Right now, I'm trying to save up to buy one so I can weld on a linear compensator and ship it up there.
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Oh yeah! That’s dope. I think I know which trim I are referring to. I know Ol Barry told me to pop a molly and that I will be sweating. And 10 years later I have terrible ADD.
MisanthropicNun@reddit
🤮keltec
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
That’s fine, I feel the same way about misanthropic nuns who VOMIT AT INNOVATORS- whom causes legacy manufacturers to amp up their creativity and create something new like the FPC.
Unless they’re blowing up in peoples hands.
Single_Currency8554@reddit
Is that a 40rd mag?
FelineRetribution@reddit (OP)
Umm… it’s 2 40 round mags attached via coupler. Kinda beats my D60 that I can’t find…