Anyone here successfully navigated Spain’s long term visa bureaucracy? I have questions …
Posted by Theta_is_my_friend@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 15 comments
I’m in a weird spot career-wise where it’s unclear what kind of visa I should apply for. I have enough passive income to apply for a non-lucrative visa, but I’m working on several side hustle projects that aren’t making me any money right, but which will start making me money in 6-12 months.
I’m trying to be respectful and comply with Spain’s requirements but it’s unclear what visa I should apply for. When I asked my local consulate, they were of no help. Any suggestions?
Other questions include:
- Why would I secure a rental contract, purchase health insurance, and purchase a flight tickets there and back.x when I don’t even know if I will be approved for a visa and for how long. It sounds like a catch 22, no?
- Do I have to apply for everything here in my home country (USA) before going over to Spain? Or can I travel to Spain in a 90 day visa and then apply for a long-term visa once there?
- I want to fly there and immediately walk the Camino, then rent a flat … So what do I put on my visa application as proof of residency?
- Is it worth doing all this myself, or should I hire an agent to do the footwork and paperwork for me?
Thanks in advance for your input!
billdietrich1@reddit
I got a non-lucrative visa in 2015, showing enough savings (no income) to support me.
You have to apply from your country of residence or citizenship. You can't go to Spain and apply from there.
You can apply for the visa without first buying plane tickets, at most consulates. And in fact I applied for visa in June or so and specified a "travel window" of Sept to Nov to actually enter Spain, if I got approved. So the "window" for using the visa doesn't have to start the (unpredictable) day you actually get approved.
Proof of a place to stay: can't help with that, I had met a Spanish citizen and was going to live with her. Perhaps an AirBNB reservation would suffice, don't know.
I'd say do it yourself, much of it has to be done by you in person anyway.
See my web pages starting at https://www.billdietrich.me/MovingToSpain.html
ceaguila84@reddit
How much savings did you have yearly to qualify?
billdietrich1@reddit
I had around $1M in savings, so not an issue. I was unable to get them to name a magic number I had to have in the bank.
j_stanley@reddit
I didn't have to get a rental contract or plane tickets. I did have to get health insurance (one of the easiest parts of the process), the FBI report, financial statements, health statements, and all the various Spanish translations of those (which has to be official/certified, not just someone who happens to read/write English/Spanish).
Well, I'd call it more like a gamble: you might win, or you might lose. But you've gotta play the game. It is real work: I basically assigned myself the job of going through the process, and put a lot of other projects on hold while I was doing it. I started the work around October, I sent in the formal application in December 2021, the visa was issued in January, and I moved in March. There were a few hiccups that someone else might avoid, but on the other hand, you might have other hiccups. I'd assume 3–6 months work.
You've got to be well organized and keep up on things, pay attention to deadlines and timestamps (eg, the apostille can expire), and you've also got to be able to deal with uncertainty and waiting and bureaucracy. If you're not okay with that, you might not be cut out for doing this.
It helped me a lot to hire a lawyer (in Spain) to be able to:
As far as I know, an NLV is always for one year. Then you renew, which if accepted, gives you another two years, etc. So you shouldn't have a doubt as to how long the visa itself is good for.
I can't remember the details right now, but I think you have 90 days from the issuance of the visa to when you need to be 'done' with the process (have your NIE, etc.). That sounds like a long time, but believe me, there's a lot of work to do when you land. I don't know how long you're planning on hiking the Camino, but I wouldn't go off for two months doing that and assume you can wrap everything else up when you get back, before the 90-day deadline.
oo0o0f@reddit
tacking on here as well.. do you still have her info?
Theta_is_my_friend@reddit (OP)
Thanks! How much did the lawyer in Spain cost? Would you recommend any in particular?
j_stanley@reddit
It was about $1200, give or take. Very well worth it, in my opinion and experience. I'll PM you her contact info.
desconocido-_@reddit
Hello stranger. I’d love a lawyer recommendation too, please 💛
Interesting_Fly_1569@reddit
hi! my bestie is trying to get her visa - do you feel comfortable sharing your lawyer's name, if you still feel good about them? thank you!
Ok_Consideration_787@reddit
Hi, would you mind sending me a pm for this as well, please? Many thanks!
BreakingBurned@reddit
Can you please PM me?
zybq@reddit
PM me too thx
Independent_Gas_6213@reddit
Could you pm me the info as well?
CharleeBarker@reddit
If it's not too much trouble, I would also appreciate a private message with the lawyer contact info. I am just starting my process for travel in October. Thank you very much!
Aprelfalgout@reddit
Hello. Great info. I also would like the name of the attorney that you used for the visa. Thanks Aprel Falgout