on that medieval nobleman diet

Also only really eaten in Russia because they weren’t considered toxic since most Russians did not have lead plates or silver plates in fact it was used as a filler for most soups

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werty_line@reddit

Medieval is a time period not a place, medieval americans had them.

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ICantLeafYou@reddit

But is there anything here that the medieval Americans didn't have at the time?

Looks like olive oil, did they have olives?

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TheNewPoetLawyerette@reddit

Cabbage, carrots, wheat, and peas come to mind, plus a lot of livestock like cows and pigs and chickens (though there is plenty of livestock native to the Americas), and horses of course

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freyalorelei@reddit

Olives are native to the Mediterranean and were cultivated 7000 years ago.

Yes, they had olives.

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SeanMegaByte@reddit

Olives are native to the Mediterranean and were cultivated 7000 years ago.

But is there anything here that the medieval Americans didn't have at the time?

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

Yeah but they had to drive 45 minutes to go to the fancy grocery store to get the.

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unfortunateclown@reddit

i believe tomatoes were thought to be poisonous for a very long time

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

They weren't even in Europe until the 1500s. A bit late for medieval.

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PacJeans@reddit

Google says Italians started eating them in the 1550s, and by 25 years later, Spain and England were doing so aswell.

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iamadventurous@reddit

Was this before or after the chinese taught italians how to make pasta?

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

I'm pretty sure pasta dishes existed before tomato sauce.

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ItalnStalln@reddit

They're referencing how noodles started in Asia (maybe China idk) before anywhere in Europe. Not sure if they invented them independently or if it was natural cultural exchange/food influence via trade routes

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

Yep. And the middle ages ended in 1453.

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For_All_Humanity@reddit

Potatoes as well! Particularly in France, people for a while had a superstition that they caused infertility.

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Skepsis93@reddit

Potatoes took a bit to catch on in Germany too. The king wanted them to catch on so he hired guards to watch over the field. He did this to make them seem fancy and expensive, thereby encouraging peasants to steal them. Which they did, and the peasants started growing them for themselves afterwards.

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grunkage@reddit

Nope - assuming OP is cutting off medieval times at 1500 AD, there were still 21 years to go before the first tomato got brought to Spain from the Americas. Took another couple hundred years before they became popular outside of Spain and Italy.

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

Even 1500 is generous. The way I've heard it is that the middle ages ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople.

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spaceporter@reddit

I remember falling asleep in Constantinople and then waking up in Istanbul.

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

If you've a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.

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ItalnStalln@reddit

Why'd they change it?

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ICantLeafYou@reddit

Just have to say I love that there's such a nerdy discussion happening in this sub lmao

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Xvexe@reddit (OP)

Ive actually decided that tomatoes existed in medieval europe in 600AD thank you

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PastaRunner@reddit

They would have had other vegetables / fruits. Serving whole was kinda common

This would be closer to a 'upper class' rather than actual royalty. Someone who could afford nice food but not necessarily staff a cook.

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socialistRanter@reddit

Tomatoes came from Mexico, which was not contacted by Europeans until the 16th century.

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BlankyPop@reddit

Oh, really?! Then how did they make wine?! Checkmate atheists.

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Zunderfeuer_88@reddit

You mean Ketchup?

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BlankyPop@reddit

Ketchup, wine…tomato tomahto.

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Wakkit1988@reddit

Should have had a Vino8.

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ParticularAd4371@reddit

grapes

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BlankyPop@reddit

Blasphemy!

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ParticularAd4371@reddit

Tell that to the wine making romans. See what they do to people who cry blasphemy:

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"wheres you massiah now, m'hah!"

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SpaceMan420gmt@reddit

Mmm tomato wine, how did they ever live without!?

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Same_Adagio_1386@reddit

r/prisonhooch can probably sort you with some cheap and easy recipes

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amuday@reddit

Otherwise known as vodka sauce

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DadJokeBadJoke@reddit

I prefer my vodka sauceless

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FillTheHoleInMyLife@reddit

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Russiantigershark@reddit

Obviously Jesus

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MisterMeanMustard@reddit

Maybe they meant a Mayan medieval nobleman.

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socialistRanter@reddit

Well that’s wheat bread there and wheats from the old world so not that

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Peripatetictyl@reddit

Maybe they meant Caladian nobleman

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Russiantigershark@reddit

They only reached Russian nobleman after the conquest of Alaska

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

How did conquering Alaska result in getting tomatoes?

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Russiantigershark@reddit

There was tomato plants that were living and surviving in Alaska so they took them back to Russia where they grew perfectly fine in Siberia and even the European steps of Russia

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I_might_be_weasel@reddit

I would not have guessed tomatoes would have existed naturally there.

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LegatusLabiatus@reddit

They didn't, this guy is either messing with you or Russian history textbooks are even weirder than one would think :)

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Uni900@reddit

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I see those tomatoes.

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WineCountry13@reddit

"Can you sing, Master Hobbit?"

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HerbaDerbaSchnerba@reddit

Come. Sing me a song.

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Scarytoaster1809@reddit

Home is behind The world ahead

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monkeyhitman@reddit

🍅💥💦

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ItalnStalln@reddit

There are maaany paths to tread

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DiceMadeOfCheese@reddit

"We have no songs for dark times and gilded halls."

"Come now, you must have a song to sing."

"Well...ok...THE ONLY BREW FOR THE BRAVE AND TRUE, COMES FROM THE GREEN DRAGON!"

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shneed_my_weiss@reddit

I was JUST about to reference this

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AbstinentNoMore@reddit

Home is behind. The world ahead...

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presvil@reddit

I know a cherry tomato hates seeing Denethor coming

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nmarano1030@reddit

LMAO! This is why i came to the comment section.

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Kitchberg@reddit

Mmm Denethor's Grim Feast.

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Late_Scale_6082@reddit

10/10

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wizardrous@reddit

r/stonerfood

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Xvexe@reddit (OP)

2pm on a monday brodie

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mothzilla@reddit

Nobody is judging you.

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lMagikarp@reddit

It's always a Friday night somewhere.

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Slash428@reddit

Meat, cheese, bread and vegetables. So tell me what part about this is shitty? This is like fine dining to the lower class.

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bologna-gravy@reddit

Oh my god it’s cheese 🤦‍♀️ I couldn’t unsee vanilla ice cream. Now I can go on with my day.

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McPorkums@reddit

Where the fuck is your tankard of ale?! That looks amazing btw 🤘🤘

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bologna-gravy@reddit

Please tell me I’m not looking at bread with tomatoes and either fingerling potatoes or sausages? And topped with vanilla ice cream and… honey… butter? I need my glasses

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PastaRunner@reddit

This is closer to upper class rathen that actual nobility. Someone that could afford high end food but did not necessarily have a staffed cook, or maybe only hired the cook for some days of the week.

Maybe a general or minor lord.

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MGermanicus@reddit

White bread? No barely? No rye? Tsk.

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LordCaptain@reddit

In medieval times white bread was the luxury bread.

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sk8ter_boi@reddit

Gout

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Sowecolo@reddit

Well, obviously no medieval nobleman ate tomatoes or potatoes because they are products of the New World and post-date the Medieval Period.

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ParticularAd4371@reddit

is that three blocks of cheese, or three blocks of lard?

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Blow-up-the-ocean@reddit

Vanilla ice cream

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Peripatetictyl@reddit

It’s cocaine

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Cloud_N0ne@reddit

Where’s the shitty part? This looks delicious

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Groovemach@reddit

There is definitely nothing shitty about this one

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Green_Collection_763@reddit

this looks so good

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kelppforrest@reddit

Are all your plates in the sink?

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John_Bible@reddit

mmmm d3LIciOuss

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Yabrosif13@reddit

Tomatoes weren’t in the Eastern hemisphere in the middle ages…

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Some_Syrup_7388@reddit

medieval

Looks inside

Tomatoes

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jtormeyx@reddit

Tomatoes. They never took off as a hand fruit

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Appycake@reddit

Love the Seinfeld reference.

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swervin_mervyn@reddit

When I was in primary school, I would have a tomato with my lunch instead of an apple.

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DadJokeBadJoke@reddit

Some neighbor kids would pick them green and add salt, but I wasn't a fan of that

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thewarfreak@reddit

So successful with the ketchup and the sauce, but you can't find a good one.

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endofworldandnobeer@reddit

Gout, a delightful experience only the rich and entitled ones got back in the day.

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GodspeedInfinity@reddit

Put this on a well-plated plate and you’ve got a 20 dollar Italian restaurant appetizer

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santosdragmother@reddit

terrible post! that looks delicious.

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darkwater427@reddit

That actually looks delicious. I don't know what you're talking about.

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HeyCarpy@reddit

Mash up those tomatoes and mop them up with the bread. I'd clean this whole thing right up.

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Blackarm777@reddit

Looks good tbh

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FlyingBurger1@reddit

This is easily a $20 appetizer in some restaurants

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FredSecunda_8@reddit

not a damn thing wrong with this

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schadetj@reddit

My guy this looks amazing, GTFO of here. Half the stupid food on this sub ain't stupid.

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Doneifundone@reddit

This looks like it slaps ngl

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spaceporter@reddit

When I lived in Japan, around Christmastime the local supermarket would sell two full roasted chicken legs for ¥450, and when I finished work they were half off. You could also buy a bag with 6–9 clementines for ¥100. That would be my dinner for basically the entire month of December and every night I felt like I was eating a meal made for a Medieval king.

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