W or L? | TheaterFire

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NightOfTheLivingHam@reddit

W if you want a family, L if you wanted more out of life.

Though she will be young enough to enjoy being a great or even great great grandmother.

I'll be lucky if I'll even be a grandfather. I'll probably be on my death bed when children of mine have kids.

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Khalixs1@reddit

Extremely cringe

Why is wageslavery always "more out of life" than having a family

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Travelling and seeing the world going to collage in a different state meeting new people going to party’s getting a lot of hobby’s are things you miss when you get kids young at least until they grow older

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ExistToDecist@reddit

Most of those things aren't worth doing anyways.

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proterraria@reddit

Then wtf are you doing with your life just sitting at home consuming media

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ExistToDecist@reddit

Creating and engaging in hobbies, building up my family and home, and consuming a healthy amount of carefully curated media.

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Khalixs1@reddit

Travelling is mostly done by retirees anyway young people might be able to go into a bunch of debt to spend a few weeks in Europe, but it's no great loss to miss out.

Meeting people and going to parties? Code for casual sex? Yeah every successful middle aged adult I know tells me they wish they had partied more and had sex with more random men

Hobbies? Hobbies are a way to fill extra time not a fulfilling part of life. Only a man-child thinks video games and Warhammer collecting are meaningful parts of life that will be lost when you have a family

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proterraria@reddit

Idk how is it in your country but over here it’s expected for you to go for a trip for a few months after the army usually to India or south America where everything is cheap you can go with 15k$ and travel at least for half an year

Believe it or not some people do regret that they didn’t spend their youth better and enjoyed themselves more also You are arguing here about getting a child at 18 how many successful woman do you know that got pregnant so early

Everyone does what they like but you took the most useless ones hobbies can be playing an instrument surfing working out painting woodworking and much more hobbies make you a more interesting person and fulfilling your creative side

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Khalixs1@reddit

You are a model consoomer congratulations

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-FL4K-@reddit

ur the one who automatically assumed that by “more out of life” he meant wageslaving

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Khalixs1@reddit

That's what they always mean, they just frame it as "a fulfilling career in social media marketing" or one of the many woman-jobs that keep them entertained as our society withers away.

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ImprovisedLeaflet@reddit

34 y/o grandma

Holy fuck that’s a hot gilf in heat 😛🐶😛

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Hyena_Utopia@reddit

W or L?

Hmm, so is being sexually successful and surrounded by little versions of yourself that you love a win or a loss?

Yeah, she should’ve probably chosen the path of a dry, depressed, and lonely career woman without kids. That would’ve been a truly meaningful existence—imagine how much FIAT currency she could've made for her employers.

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laniuscollurio1@reddit

r slash childfree would unironically see the latter as preferable

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seastatefive@reddit

It's sad to voluntarily choose to be an evolutionary dead end.

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WolfShaman@reddit

I think it depends on the situation. Someone so stupid that they're practically braindead? They probably shouldn't breed.

With the mental and medical issues in my family, I would have been perfectly fine being a dead end.

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seastatefive@reddit

You could be the one to buck the trend, to prove that nurturing, upbringing and hard work can trump over genetics.

I do agree though that for some people with severe hereditary diseases, they might not want to have children of their own. But then why not foster? There are so many children who need a good home.

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ImprovisedLeaflet@reddit

You could be the one to buck the trend, to prove that nurturing, upbringing and hard work can trump over genetics.

NO, I will TEACH MY KIDS about how hard life is, and if they think I’m abusive, I’ll just tell them about their shitty grandmother! I will pass on the family traditions!

circle of life

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SuckEmOff@reddit

I’m actually glad that they’re taking themselves out of the gene pool. Less terminally online self loathing Redditors in the world.

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realdevilsadvocate@reddit

You become an evolutionary dead end after ~8 generations regardless

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--n-@reddit

Only about as sad as smashing a million years old rock.

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DraconianDebate@reddit

Hopefully they are successful and such ideas can die out at the same time.

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Nicktendo1988@reddit

Incels look sad too :(

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schmitzel88@reddit

OP has a stronger family unit than anyone who has ever posted in that subreddit

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mooimafish33@reddit

Maybe instead of giving our entire lives to a child or an employer we can seek a little self actualization.

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Aurosanda@reddit

For some people, self-actualization comes from having children. You heal the childhood wounds and are able to see the bigger picture between generations.

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mooimafish33@reddit

I think it's a little wild to bring a human being into the world in the hopes that it might fix your personal issues.

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Aurosanda@reddit

It's a little presumptuous to assume there's only one reason to have a child or that the reasons should only be altruistic. Its a boon to you and your childs life to be able understand your own behaviors and values and being able to see yourself through the eyes of a parent. Thats how you foster positive change for the next generation.

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luckac69@reddit

Not everyone is part of the nobility

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kjcaps010@reddit

But I wouldn’t be a good Mom? Would you be a good Dad if it happened to you unexpectedly?

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JohnBGaming@reddit

Best day to learn was 10 years ago, second best day is today

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mooimafish33@reddit

I believe that there is a 0% chance that someone with a reddit username that contains the word gaming can be a good parent

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JohnBGaming@reddit

The name is a joke reference within a YouTube community, but I'm sure following specific naming conventions are very important to you "mooimafish"

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kjcaps010@reddit

Don’t be mean for no reason. He’s right in saying that if parenthood were forced onto you, for whatever reason, you would try your hardest to be a good parent. You would, too.

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kjcaps010@reddit

Very true. We can all try as hard as we can. We can have hope, and make things better if we care enough.

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FlexViper@reddit

Which is better working for someone you love and a family

Or slaving away to a corpo company that gives you high monthly slavary and make money for your CEO Inorder for them to buy their next yatch

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seastatefive@reddit

To your employer you are replaceable.

To your family you are irreplaceable.

Spend more time with people who treasure you.

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Doctorjames25@reddit

How about spend more time doing what makes you happy. If it's having children, do that. If it's being child free, do that.

Money isn't everything but financial security is fantastic. Having kids and having financial security don't always go hand in hand.

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seastatefive@reddit

Happiness alone isn't everything. You could spend your entire life paying video games and not make a positive contribution to the world and be happy. But that would be a wasted life.

True happiness lies in making a difference in someone else's life. We only have maybe 60 to 80 years on this world and then we're gone. The only legacy we will leave is the imprint we have on others.

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KettleCellar@reddit

You don't get to define what true happiness is.

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seastatefive@reddit

I'll define it how I like. I don't care. You don't get to define how I define happiness.

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KettleCellar@reddit

Now apply that to 8 billion people and you'll see my point.

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critsonyou@reddit

They're on 4chan, the happiest place on earth

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ExistToDecist@reddit

Except when you get a partner you realize that when you get sick, the laundry still piles up because everyone except you is a lazy PoS. Living alone in my 20's taught me to be brutally efficient with managing my space, but it seems most women never learn that lesson for obvious reasons.

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FlexViper@reddit

Sounded like a friend of mine who recently got a married to a women whom he met when he's trying to get his degree in Animation and digital arts. Dude has to teach her how to mop the floor and clean the bathroom and cook is basic human functioning on how to live

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Iron-Fist@reddit

sexually successful

Very national geographic wording here.

Surrounded by little versions of yourself

If this is what you expect from children boy are you in for a surprise.

Still young

Yes, she has about 1/2 the life experience of your average grandma, as well as seemingly no education beyond high school. She'll have to play the role of mom for her grand daughter and the role of grandma will still be left open. This is not a good thing.

Career woman without kids

The vast majority of "career women" end up having kids, they just wait until they are secure, with an education and some savings and (most importantly) a stable marriage. Without these it is a gamble.

It is good that things worked out relatively well but gregnant at 15 is a dangerous situation, physically but also socially/financially. A lot of risks taken here, now being repeated by the daughter. Hopefully things keep working out but it's not a great idea to roll these dice when minor delay (can be a super young grandma at 48 if you both have kids at 24) to get an education, build a nest egg, and ensure strong relationship with spouse can alleviate a lot of risk.

As it is, if you support teen pregnancy I hope you also support universal provision of healthcare, childcare, food, and housing to ensure those kids grow up in a safe and nurturing environment.

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RashFever@reddit

Supporting your husband and family as a mother and wife: fascist patriarchy 😡

Slaving your entire life away for your employer: feminism 😇

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mollygrubba267@reddit

based and great life advice-pilled

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AWOOGABIGBOOBA@reddit

this isn't even a blackpill this is darker than that

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HussainKegel@reddit

blackholepill

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AgitatedKey4800@reddit

Ultraviolet or infrared pilled

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Lukthar123@reddit

Voidpill

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depressome@reddit

Vantablackpill

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Treq-S@reddit

I'm not a super leftist or rightist but holy shit you're so that they should keep you in the museum as pecimen

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laniuscollurio1@reddit

redditor for 9 years

fascinating how you can always tell

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ooahupthera@reddit

“people with values are weird like just stop caring bro”

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

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placeholder-123@reddit

This is so based it loops back to cringe and then to gigabased again

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DiCePWNeD@reddit

based beyond belief

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jimnez_84@reddit

Normal across the entirety of human experience... Modernity has f'd our perceptions.

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Mexer@reddit

Antinatalists literally foaming at the mouth reading this

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Cuntilever@reddit

Whenever that sub comes to mind and remember the shit they type there, I always wonder why they just don't off them selves since the world is full of pain and suffering, according to them. Earth is literally not suitable for humans and your kids will just die from either cancer or a random accident, dying from old age and being surrounded by people you love is just a myth spread by the Illuminati.

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Coronabandito@reddit

The world if we can finally get femboys pregnant

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Scary_Nail_6033@reddit

Yea because just like this post "femboys" are young teens who have been groomed by older men into sex

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SandaWarrior@reddit

My adult femboi boyfriend would like to disagree with you

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AgitatedKey4800@reddit

My bad

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sink_pisser_@reddit

I hate you

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KingofTheTorrentine@reddit

As long as the family is financially secure but also lives fulfilling lives. It's never good when you love the child but can't provide for them, which is why doing it so young can be a problem. However sometimes these things just fucking work. Either by God or just matching personality, they work.

there is definitely a difference between enjoying your role as a mother and being in destitute marriage slavery somewhere in rural India where all your talent and dreams went to waste for a man half as intelligent as you with equal sense of entitlement and Insecurity.

If it's love. W

If it's resignation on life. L

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TalkingKoalaa@reddit

You understand the cons of child marriage better than 90% of india. This country which practiced child marriage regularly about 50 years ago, now considers it a taboo subject, and since no one talks or teaches about why it was banned, people build up their own interpretation and counter arguments. Unfortunately this leads to much harm due to ignorance of the subject and you occasionally find parents in remote villages marrying their daughters before age, justifying it by speaking out of their arse.

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Coolguy123456789012@reddit

Is 90% of India unable to do basic reasoning? It's not complex.

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TalkingKoalaa@reddit

Its so easy to shit on a country without understanding the underlying problems. I didn't build up those text walls for no reason y'know

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sink_pisser_@reddit

Is it genuinely banned across the country? Is it enforceable? I assumed it was still a thing but maybe they do it more quietly now

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TalkingKoalaa@reddit

Valid question cause your prob not indian. Yep its banned and if the cops or childs protection services catch a sniff of any such ceremony, the parents of both kids are persecuted/sent to prison. Things are actually okay in western areas as far as i know, but some states and most villages across country have instances of child marriage. The most common cases are when the parents, due to a desire to have boy child, keep on conceiving, and as Female Infanticide Prevention Act is an even bigger thing, some parents end up with 7-8 girl childs. If the family is poor or even middle class, they try to marry off their daughters asap. If you have any indian friends, ask them how many siblings their father/grandfather/great-grandfather (or mother) had, and it'll be an absurd number. India aint got the highest population for no reason. Yet the male-female ratio is poor. Man how did we even come this far with problems like this.

Ahhh man i downloaded reddit for catgirls not to spread info about current state of india. Oh well.

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sink_pisser_@reddit

Thank you saar

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TalkingKoalaa@reddit

Sir your computer has virus please venmo me $200 to remove the virus /jk

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KINGodfather@reddit

Lock the thread. This man cooked so much, he served a whole dinner.

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NightOfTheLivingHam@reddit

that's why I held off on having kids, I do not want them going through what I went through.

I want to have a shared roof over my head with my fiance before I introduce them to the world.

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Entoco@reddit

tbf thats how it should be. have kids when you are ready

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judge2020@reddit

But how will we keep putting downwards pressure on wages without continuing to churn out children??

Well at least poor and uneducated people don’t use contraceptives.

/s

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goblue142@reddit

Got married at 25, we wanted kids asap but held off until 34 because we wouldn't have been able to give them a better life until then. Waited until we had a house to live in instead of a tiny apartment, money to spend on them and their activities. Now I have two and I think I'm giving them a better life than I grew up with which I honestly didn't ever think I'd be able to do.

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seastatefive@reddit

Having a home is a basic requirement that all animals need before having their young. It's of course without a doubt the first thing that a couple will try to set up before having children.

The lack of children these days is as much a lack of housing as anything else.

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LOJABE@reddit

Best take.

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depressome@reddit

This, all of it

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LowOwl4312@reddit

But she's missing out on her career in social media marketing!!!

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Throwawooobenis@reddit

Dude that or she could be busy tending to the 24/7 of three needy as fuck and undiscoplined dogs.. and all the consooming of the latest goods and services via taxable transactions..

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ban_imminent@reddit

When is she supposed to find time post on LinkedIn??!?

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TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit

that reaction image

OP has no womb, he has no ovaries

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WillNotFightInWW3@reddit

Win

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DownRUpLYB@reddit

Top W

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IamHereForThaiThai@reddit

If you consider the goal of life is to spread your genetics (as all living being's goal) then this is a W.
If you believe in human social construct then this is an L since they contradict the way of normal human
Personally? This is a W for she spread her genetics

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SinghStar1@reddit

"Contradict the way of a normal human" - Define a “normal human” for me, would you? Is it the guy grinding away in his 20s, failing anyway, then scrambling to marry in his late 20s/30s only to find a dating pool full of divorced and damaged people who only know short-term gratification? Or maybe it’s the “normal” one who can’t have kids because they’re either too old or too broke after burning out in their 20s? Then what - staring down the barrel of a lonely death, with nothing to look forward to except the cold comfort of material stuff and maybe their dog for company because they can’t face the crushing loneliness?

Yeah, hard pass. I’d rather “contradict” that life path and chase something deeper than the so-called “normal human” Western treadmill. Relationships, real companionship - that’s what makes life worth living. The guy with all the toys might look good on paper, but he’ll never know the warmth of genuine connection.

Give me people over things any day. At least I won't be hugging my TV in my 50s wondering where it all went wrong.

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