Someone tell me this is a bad idea financially before I buy it

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HomerDodd@reddit

Every car is a bad financial decision to restore. 40+ years of experience talking. And I do just about all my own work. Paying someone their shop rate is a disastrous investment. It’s like a sickness though. I think I have like 14 in the fleet right now…

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MSampson1@reddit

I could tell you, but it seems like you’ve already made up your mind. You see what it could be, not what it is. I have the same problem, just nowhere to put a project car. So, that said, buono fortuna!

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stinkpot89117@reddit

How deep are your pockets?

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GawinGrimm@reddit

Like all "project cars" it is a financially bad idea :D But we all do it. That one looks like a very bad idea.

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Hearthstoned666@reddit

for fuxks sake, man, there's nothing left on that body, you'd need almost a completely new body. Is it REALLY worth it?!

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IamNotTheMama@reddit

Unless you can get another one that has a good roof you will be old before you fix this one.

If you do get the other roof you will be only slightly less old

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powerhouse403@reddit

Run away, very fast!

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AbhishMuk@reddit

Good thing that car can’t chase him very fast!

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powerhouse403@reddit

It's a ford product, it has a hard time going down hill!

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Shienvien@reddit

Well, it's not likely to be road-legal in this decade.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Road legal? It's road legal the way it sits in my state lol

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Shienvien@reddit

Don't most US states require some kind of MOT/TÜV equivalent?

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spotdishotdish@reddit

It was close to half the last time I checked

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texan01@reddit

Not all of them

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Yes most. The inspections here are laughable. And we won't even need to get them starting next year

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gibby-is-a-unit@reddit

Unless you’re doing metalwork yourself thats a terrible idea. If you know what your doing and have done similar things in the past, send it!

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The1930s@reddit

There's more rust then car 😬

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CrudBert@reddit

Man… even for free … that’s a tough one. You have a shop, welding machine, fabrication tools? Do you want them? If so, maybe get the shop, welding machine, some metal fab tools, an engine puller, engine stand, a small repair rack to be able to lift a car at least a few feet. Take some welding/painting classes at the voc-tech, along with engine repair. THEN buy you a car to fix up.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

I have a shop and all that. Only reason I'm even thinking about this car

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CrudBert@reddit

Nice! Then offer the guy $50 and take it home! After getting it all repaired and covered in primer, have it professionally painted and then upholstered. Could be worth $40k, or sadly $8k.

So, just plan on keeping it / using it /showing it for fun, unless someone throws $40k at you afterwards.

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jpautohaus@reddit

Why in the fuck would you buy this LMAO

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jw-heiny@reddit

Yes, that is a bad financial decision, But as a person who makes poor financial decisions, I would do it.

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FabOctopus@reddit

Pilsnerbil

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Lizard_Man69@reddit

This is a bad idea financially before you buy it

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YUUPERS@reddit

You should spend that money on hookers and blow instead, that would be a more solid investment

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VANILLAxFROSTY@reddit

This is a bad idea financially

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Old-Spend-8218@reddit

If it’s just the roof cut it off get another- but that looks like it is mucho work

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69Bandit@reddit

if the car is free... sure.... Id personally tell them they are asking too much for the condition. maybe tell them "dents are easier to repair because there is stil metal there, if you want what your asking, you need to protect the car from rusting apart for another 10 years till all examples are this bad.

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DakarCarGunGuy@reddit

Tell me you want to become a master welder without saying it. Investing sheet metal and tetnis shots.

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R-Inferno@reddit

I think it really depends on your fab skills if you take this. Also your patience and obviously budget. This is definitely gonna take more than you think so you have to be ready for that.

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juniorl3@reddit

Chop the roof and turn it into a convertible

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crazyasjoe77@reddit

Make it a convertible🤣

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Restomodded@reddit

If youre gonna half ass it whats the point? Youll be lucky to break even

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Jlx_27@reddit

Walk away and never return.

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aBuzzedLife@reddit

If you have your own shop with all the tooling, a team of guys with years of experience, a discovery channel budget, and a reputation at Mecum for building high quality restorations, I’d say go for it. Otherwise, maybe try and find something with a little less rust at least.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Yes to that first part. It's not going to be a show car just a muscle car I can't fuck around with and not mess up something special. At best it'll be a hot rod/ratrod. At worst it'll be $500 worth of glass for my Cyclone GT

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VictimOfRegions@reddit

If you mean there's $500 of glass sitting in the trunk then it miiiiiight just be worth the gas money you'll spend bringing it home

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saxonchevy@reddit

That glass is already delaminating. I'd have to let that one rust in peace.

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leicester77@reddit

This. And get a tetanus shot first. Good luck.

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quartz-crisis@reddit

If you have all of those things you have the budget to know that to fix it up you’re going to pay like 10x what just buying a better car will cost, money that you’re never going to make back. That’s assuming this is a free car.

If this was some super super rare numbers matching car or something then it can be worth it. But this isn’t, and it is really really far from it.

Most of the people who spend extra on something because “the numbers match” are fools - numbers matching after a full rebuild doesn’t matter unless the car was already rare. And definitely nobody gives a shit about an 80hp slug of a 6 cylinder (I’ve owned many “Falcon” / little 6s- they fucking suuuuck. But forcing them to breathe with a junkyard turbo setup can be fun. Although still not really that fast for the money).

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Enough-Scientist1904@reddit

the only profit will be for the person who is tricking you into paying them to take this pile.

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mini4x@reddit

This is $40,000 away from being a $20,000 car.

They made billions of falcons, a decent runner/driver can be had for about $10k or less..

If you want o do a mild v8 build you'd be far better off just buying a nicer one to start with.

Something like this one>

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1872435/1965-ford-falcon-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601

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Partayof4@reddit

Thanks for the free advertising

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mini4x@reddit

It was just an example I got off Google, no affiliation.

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DKOS0@reddit

If it's me I'm running far as fudge in the opposite direction

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itz_mr_billy@reddit

She’s dead Jim

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wheelsmatsjall@reddit

Never buy a rusty car with holes in it there are so many unrested cars in the west that have never been restored waiting to be restored to have no rust at all buy one of those they're going to spend less money buying a clean car and having a ship then trying to mess with rusted out junk

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catsaresneaky@reddit

I have some rust for sale if you'd like to make an offer

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Daddy-o62@reddit

Financially, you’d be better off if you took the cash, shredded it, put it in a salad, ate that salad, shat it out, and put that shit in the spot you have reserved in your garage for this rust bucket.

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Zer0TheGamer@reddit

Why are you wanting to buy a rust block? Making shutloads of Thermite or somethin??

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Final-Top-7217@reddit

If it's a genuine Sprint it's a rare car and you've got to save it.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

It's a genuine sprint but I have a 67 Cyclone GT in muuuuch better condition ill probably just get that thing on the road

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Klo187@reddit

The windscreen is held in with chewing gum.

I’d stay away from

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vnummela1@reddit

If you have to weld around windows/glass, you better be good at making all the lines straight and accept weather-strips after youre done, also you'll need to atleast remove or change entirely the windscreen.

Not worth it. Get a body from California or some desert state where "rust" isnt a thing.

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pushingair@reddit

This is hell. Don't do it.

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MrCoochieDough@reddit

U should charge them for taking it away lmao

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PrinceGreenEyes@reddit

I sudgest geting something not rusted because rust repairs are really difficult and unawarding.

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The-Iron-Chaffy@reddit

Well someone has too put it back on the road honestly it’s a cool car…🤷🏻‍♂️

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rudbri93@reddit

Theyre charging you to take that?

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mostoftnmisundrstood@reddit

Me: well it looks sol (swipe) OH LAWDY

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Yeah that roof is baaaad. Floorboards don't scare me. Bad floors and a bad roof on a unibody. Fuck

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turtlewelder@reddit

Just cage/tube chassis it.

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trex_racecar@reddit

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There’s still plenty of meat on that bone. Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato. Baby, you’ve got a stew going.

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justananontroll@reddit

I buy all my cars at police auction.

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Jades5150@reddit

10 second car, the weight reduction is already done

Gone in a cloud of ~~dust~~ rust

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velowa@reddit

I like this idea.

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rudbri93@reddit

I bet it doesnt make it onto the trailer in one piece.

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GreenFullSuspension@reddit

Even the license plate can’t stay in one piece.

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ImNoAlbertFeinstein@reddit

a magnet wouldn't get it all.

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rudbri93@reddit

call up the magnet from 'the brave little toaster'

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Busterlimes@reddit

You'd be lucky if you got it on a trailer in less than a dozen pieces

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652jfTz3@reddit

Run run away and take your trailer empty with you.

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thisucka@reddit

This guy knows

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Onecoolsaab@reddit

You should sell it in jaws to the reddit community.

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bobbyjones2222@reddit

Convertible?

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mikeeru@reddit

Everything's convertible if you're determined enough

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pawelwny1@reddit

Nothing that can't be done. BUT a pain in the ass regardless. I've done both on my 72 mustang.

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Ok_Dog_4059@reddit

Exactly the same here. I wasn't worried until that second picture then it was over.

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Derpeldingo@reddit

My eyes stuck out of my head like a bugs bunny cartoon lmao DAAAYUUM

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rudbri93@reddit

looks like they took all the lead off the car and ate it.

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iamDonJohnson@reddit

You'll have more fun with something else. That roof looks like it'll take your soul

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Interesting-Cup9214@reddit

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MrP8978@reddit

It’s an absolutely awful idea. I’d still buy it though!

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Not_banksyy@reddit

Just dont

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GNARBEQUE@reddit

DONT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT,JUST GET IT. GOOD ENOUGH TO GO DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY

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BaconLucifer29@reddit

I’ve bought a lot of pieces of shit before. But this? I wouldnt even think about it, and when I do I’m getting a headache thinking about it. I could pull up 29 pictures of psoriasis and find less flaky skin when compared to this rust. This is, quite possibly, the worst project you can start that won’t be finished

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Imilkgoats70@reddit

Just say NO!

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Justacanuckhere@reddit

This is a bad idea financially .

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rtwpsom2@reddit

Nah, looks great, I am sure it won't take more than 50-60k to fix it up.

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Dmau27@reddit

What are they paying you to get rid of this POS?

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moonandmorel@reddit

Bro said profit

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BrainSqueezins@reddit

So, have you ever had this inner monologue:

”Man! I’ve got far too many of these $100 bills lying about. I tried lighting my cigars with them, the doctor told me to stop smoking. I tried doing lines of coke with them, the wife said to stop OR ELSE. I tried flushing them down the toilet,my plumbing backed up. They don’t compost well. What the HELL am I going to do with them?”

If you have lately thought those thoughts, go for it. It’ll solve all your problems.

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shotstraight@reddit

OMG, the Titanic has less rust and would be an easier fix. FUCK!!!

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HelloYouSuck@reddit

How much are they paying you to take it?

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swanspank@reddit

The roof and other stuff is all repairable. But you see that A post rust on the right of the windshield? That’s a bitch to repair and nowhere to buy the sheet metal parts.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Yup it's like that around the whole windshield and both drip rails. That's the thing that scares me.

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chris_rage_is_back@reddit

Bro I'm a really good fabricator and even I wouldn't touch that unless it was free so I can scrap it after it crumbles when I go to move it

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swanspank@reddit

You might search around and see if the 65-66 Mustang parts fit that. It very well may. I doubt you can find a roof skin but patch panels for that are do-able from 18 ga sheet metal. The problem is that upper edge by the windshield has a header beneath the roof skin that attaches to the A post and to the header that goes over the top of the doors. Then the bottom attaches to the front door jamb and the cowl. Like I said, lots of stuff going on in that area.

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quartz-crisis@reddit

Then why are you even fucking around the thought of trying to rehab this. It’s gone dude.

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traumatic415@reddit

This makes a bad idea look brilliant in comparison.

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sh1ft33@reddit

Dude... some things aren't worth the pain, financially at least. These are beautiful cars but if you aren't fluent in welding, fabricating, body work, and painting, you may want to skip this one.

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Papercut_247@reddit

Body swap it with an s10 or something narrow. Keep the floor and firewall from donor. Put any engine and transmission combo. You like boom!

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its_just_flesh@reddit

Parts car

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Justprunes-6344@reddit

These don’t have a frame when built ?

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OkDot9878@reddit

It’s a bad idea financially.

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tacomeat247@reddit

It’s a bad idea for free

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classless_classic@reddit

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StartwithaRoux@reddit

That's a horrible start to a project unless you have 2 cars to make one solid one.

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ilikeperkyboobies@reddit

They had better be paying you a few thousand to take that heap.

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WheelSnipeCelly33@reddit

yes

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truthfullyidgaf@reddit

Don't do it. T(rust) me.

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cryptic_culchie@reddit

That’s a shell for a silhouette car at best, and it’d need a lot of work for that. It’s not even scrap because it’s all rust leave it there. Don’t even bother

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OldSkoolKool666@reddit

Runnnnn awayyyy

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coyoteatemyhomework@reddit

First thing you need to do is research availability of body parts and aftermarket support. I know from experience falcons/comets and even fairlane are pretty much non existent. This car doesn't even look like a donor car. It would be a NO from me

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tato_salad@reddit

Swiss cheese is jealous of this thing. Stay away.

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fmlyjwls@reddit

You can’t weld to air.

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CauseyOfItAll@reddit

Looks like a bad idea to me

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BelAir1962@reddit

The rust is severe . And that’s just what you can see. It’s barely a parts car . Find a better one .

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404-skill_not_found@reddit

Kinda looks like the rally rims might be serviceable. About all of this that I might try to keep.

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Jades5150@reddit

DONT

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IntheOlympicMTs@reddit

That’s a parts car at best.

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AgitatedNewt3617@reddit

A fool and his money are soon parted.

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fnordfnordfnordfnord@reddit

Buy? That?

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HighKneeGrows@reddit

Buy it life is short

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Tr0z3rSnak3@reddit

Maybe make it into a convertible?

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bluenosesutherland@reddit

Dalton, is that you?

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SemiproGrandeur_TMS@reddit

Oh buddy I wouldn’t touch that with a 20 foot pole

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no_place_like_gnome@reddit

Oh jeez dude why? There’s more rust that steel there

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Due-Organization7707@reddit

It won’t be worth anywhere near what you’ll have in it. Find something in better shape.

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thisucka@reddit

This car isn’t worth its weight in scrap.

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soedesh1@reddit

Patina!!!

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fakecarguy@reddit

What is it you’re even buying here? Rust particles vaguely in the shape of a car?

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Opsdude@reddit

For now. In the shape of a car FOR NOW.

Talk to me when the shape hasn't changed after getting on and off a trailer.

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RBuilds916@reddit

This is a bad idea financially, emotionally, mechanically, spiritually, medically, psychologically, and maritally. When are we getting started?

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Obvious-Dinner-1082@reddit

That body will fall apart once you put torque to it. Ie: your big fat motor. The pillars are structural. The body will twist. Now think about what happens if you get hit by some chump running a stop sign? Dead.

The only thing that car is good for is parts, or maybe a demo car on a closed track with a roll cage.

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wsfrankm@reddit

That's no longer a Ford Falcon, it's a ball of rust now.

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Evee862@reddit

Don’t even touch it. Roof rust like that isn’t cheap to solve and that’s IF you can find a donor roof

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Fredneck_Chronicles@reddit

They’re all bad financial decisions lol it just depends on how much you like the car and how good your skills are to fix the issues. Personally I’d pass on that car unless it was just insanely cheap, mainly because I think fixing that too would be a nightmare for me. I’m sure some other guys who are used to those kind of repairs wouldn’t flinch at it and would have it fixed in no time.

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Nouseriously@reddit

You will never financially recover from this

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texan01@reddit

5 lug wheels so it was originally a V8 car.

It shares a ton of Mustang parts, so aside from unique body panels, the mechanicals will be easy.

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mini4x@reddit

It shares a ton of Mustang parts

Other way around but yes. The falcon had been around for 4-5 years before the mustang hit the street.

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texan01@reddit

Yup.. the humble Falcon was the origin for a whole host of Ford cars including the Maverick and the Granada.

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mini4x@reddit

The most bizarre i think is the Econoline, mid engine unibody van..

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texan01@reddit

Yeah that’s a Falcon in name only though… I do t think k it shares much with the car.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

Yeah og owner pulled the 289 and slapped it into his mustang and put in a 200 or something. Not great at identifying the old inline 6s.

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maxman090@reddit

That thing gon crumble to dust if you so much as think about moving it

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SirRonaldBiscuit@reddit

My buddy in college had a 64 ford falcon and I loved it, the interior was minty and the outside looked pretty good too but it will always be one of my favorite cars. Wasn’t fast and it drove like a boat (swaying into turns) but holy shit was it dope to ride in.

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rovch@reddit

There’s not enough bondo in the world to make me say yes to this

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rustbucketdatsun@reddit

Who hurt you.. this should not take any convincing man 😅

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tulipdaydreams@reddit

You're going to spend more money restoring that thing than it is to buy one in good condition. Don't do it. But if you do, keep us updated.

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Fabulous-Stretch-605@reddit

Falcons are cheap enough that you can find another. Even for free I don’t think it’s salvageable. It’s not a Mustang where they sell everything in a catalog….

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

I think everything but the body and some parts of the steering is all mustang stuff.

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7thgen13@reddit

True 90% of the mechanics are mustang but the suspension body interior is falcon only now you can install the front strut towers and cut the floor to make it mustang but falcons are cheaper to find and tou can find one better

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joeyjoeskullcracker@reddit

I love those cars. I had a 64. You can definitely find something better to start with. I wouldn’t waste my time on that one. And of course, anything can be done but that’s a ton of work.

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CrazyTechWizard96@reddit

I mean, if Your Heart is really in it and You love to have one?
Go for it, try to do most Yourself and else wise, pay someone to weld up the rest of the fucked stuff.
Wouldn't be cheap else wise but... Scare Metal Tubing exsists, same with some thick Diomond plating and Hell, a Carbriolete would look sweet too.
...
Also, is anything a Good Finnencial advice?
No.
Life Itself is the Worst Finnencial Mistake anyone could do by Joining it.
Eh, just gotta make the best out of it, Win Some, Loose Some, it's all the Same to Me.
About to Sing Ace of Spades by Motörhead

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hindey19@reddit

You serious Clarke?

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MagicOrpheus310@reddit

Oh, dude... It's a project car... ALL project cars are a bad financial decision...

That's not why we do it though...

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gregsmith5@reddit

She’s over the rainbow brother

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300GTP@reddit

That's Yard Art.

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loquedijoella@reddit

It would be a lot of work, but far from impossible. I repaired a 64 Impala that was worse than this. I think a 65 Falcon is worth saving and I would def take a crack at this. If the price is right, I’d do it. I’m a self taught guy who has done metal repair, dent repair and color sanding / polishing on other people’s cars but not a pro by any means.

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Boilermakingdude@reddit

I got a car in better shape than that for free. You'd have to pay me to take this. By the time you buy all the panels etc you could have a decent rolling one without all the rot

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Hey-buuuddy@reddit

I’d snag it and give it the Road Warrior treatment. Roof off, mud tires, flamethrower right in middle.

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No-Youth6582@reddit

Scrap that POS LMAOOO

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Alasus48@reddit

Its a bad idea financially. It's also cool as hell. Do with this what you will

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DocTarr@reddit

I restored a 65 falcon about 20 years ago.

This one is too far gone, no way will recover from the rot. Even floor pans, rockers, etc you can get reproduction skins to fix but the raim gutters in the roof are so so bad. Run away.

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David1971V@reddit

Well, if the roof is that bad, how bad are the floors or lack of floors.

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saves313@reddit

This thread is made for people who gamble with biting off what may be more than they can chew, by those same people.

You're not going to here a rational answer, and people are still telling you no.

Personally I think that would be a very wise investment....for someone else.

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jw7991@reddit (OP)

I have the money,skills and shop to do it. Do I have the time? Probably not? Do I have 20 other project cars? Yes.

Just wanted some sane people to tell this is a mistake lol

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mini4x@reddit

Go work on one of the 20 you already have then, let this one go.

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saxonchevy@reddit

It's a mistake! I love Falcons too, but there are better candidates.

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CAM6913@reddit

I believe someone once called me I was normal but my first name isn’t Abby, no it’s not a profitable project, parts car maybe,could it be resurrected? Absolutely but you could buy a driver for a lot less than you’d put into it

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saves313@reddit

Should probably ask somewhere else then 🤣

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RojerLockless@reddit

Rofl Terrible decision

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telmesumpm@reddit

$30,000 in paint and body….IF you do a lot of it yourself.

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mini4x@reddit

And you can get totally mint ones for $20k.

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IHaveComeForMemes@reddit

Its too far gone, worth parting out and sending to the yard

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tk8398@reddit

If it's near free and you just want to practice welding and have the equipment already then why not, if you don't want to just use it to practice fixing a rusty mess then find a better car.

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Rasp75@reddit

It has a VIN you can use to build something with.

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Which_Ad8594@reddit

We scrapped a half dozen falcons because we could give them away. None with a roof this bad!

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themissing10mm@reddit

If you want a convertible buy a convertible 😂

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PunchClown@reddit

It's a no from me, dawg.

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Own-Opinion-2494@reddit

You can find a better one. There’s a reason it has sat there so long

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Own-Opinion-2494@reddit

Yep

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ok-milk@reddit

It looks like someone started doing body work on it 20 years ago and stopped 19.9 years ago. That’s stage IV rust, just keep it comfortable until it is returned to the earth.

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Accordingly_Onion69@reddit

2 weeks its like new

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NoGnewsIsGoodGnews@reddit

You’d be hard pressed to make a more careless financial decision than buying this pos.

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realsalmineo@reddit

That is a parts car.

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1895red@reddit

I enjoy automotive necromancy as much as the next gal, but those bones are dust.

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PervYass@reddit

Buy it for 100$

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Lichenbruten@reddit

Lawn art. Maybe a rain barrel.

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Mimcclure@reddit

There is a way to make it work.

Cut off everything from the firewall, then build a new race car from it.

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Comrade_Compadre@reddit

Man rust is car cancer, if the surface looks like that imagine just below it

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Wide-Jellyfish-2950@reddit

If you decide to do it، do YouTube video With it.maybe you become famous

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Smokey_Katt@reddit

If you want to bend up a nice tube chassis car, this is a great start for a body to hide the race car chassis.

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melow-malody@reddit

I bought a 73 Malibu with what was left of a vinyl roof that looked way worse than this pic. Basically nothing stopping rain but I was able to find a roof in a similar (Buick I think) top from a junkyard, had it cut off, had the new top welded back on and the whole cost was less then $800. Granted that was a number of years ago, but it is possible on the cheap as cheap today is relative. I guess it depends on how dedicated you are to the project.

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Best wishes - Reality

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