[der8auer] Overpriced, Loud and Slow - Geekom Megamini G1

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How is it overpriced? Because of his arbitrary sense of value that has no bearing on mine? Can we just stop with naming shit overpriced as a criteria for a review and, instead, just review the shit on it's merits. I'll decide if it's overpriced for me, not him.

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FuzzyApe@reddit

Value is not arbitrary lol, you can compare the numbers just fine. What's wrong with that?

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Crank_My_Hog_@reddit

$100 to you isn't $100 to me. For one one person, it's pocket change, the other, it's a significant saving. That's the point. That value is arbitrary because it's completely subjective.

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FuzzyApe@reddit

If one costs 500$ more than the other while having worse performance, it's overpriced, no matter if it's pocket change to you or not.

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Crank_My_Hog_@reddit

And what if performance isn't the deciding factor?

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FuzzyApe@reddit

Then what is, from a reviewers perspective?

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Crank_My_Hog_@reddit

How is it not clear that I don't care what the reviewer things is overpriced because it's arbitrary? Why would I give a shit about their value opinion based on their sense of worth? I don't. That's the entire point.

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FuzzyApe@reddit

That's some narcissistic bullshit lmao

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Crank_My_Hog_@reddit

No it's not. It's a difference of opinion on how value is determined. They have their lenses, I have mine. I'm tired of people telling me what is overpriced and what isn't because they think their view is the standard. It's not.

If I'm a narcissist, then you're a blind sheep.

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Sylanthra@reddit

If not price what other criteria is there? This computer gets compared to other computers with similar price or performance. How else can you judge if it is a good computer. If price is no object, I've got a great PC from a few years ago that you can have for $10000.

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Crank_My_Hog_@reddit

Where did I say price is no object? Can you give me a direct quote?

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constantlymat@reddit

Makes Dave does Tech look quite bad.

He was one of the reviewers who claimed it was whisper quiet whereas others pointed out the noise.

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snollygoster1@reddit

I do wonder about his review because where he shows 4 microphones pointed at the PC you can see airbubbles.

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Sylanthra@reddit

It's laptop internals in a gigantic (by laptop standards) case that somehow manages to perform worse than an actual laptop with those components.

I guess it looks cool. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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x3nics@reddit

With the amount of good sandwich/riser itx cases around, you can actually build something better, albeit aircooled at a similar size (Midori 5L, Velka 5, which fit some 4070's for example) for less cost.

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inaccurateTempedesc@reddit

I really like the idea of mini-PCs using laptop components, what a missed opportunity.

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404_Gordon_Not_Found@reddit

It exists. In my region you can get a miniPC with 12900hx + 4060 + 32GB ram + 1 TB storage for around $900 USD

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reddanit@reddit

If it was such a "missed opportunity", one of the many times this has been tried would have been at least moderately successful. Using a laptop GPU is just a huge compromise that genuinely matters. This kind of mini-PC with GPU is just stuck between two major market segments:

Gaming laptops are comparable in price and performance. At the same time they have the huge advantage of being a complete, moderately portable package with a screen, keyboard etc.
Compact PCs are notably larger, but they also are far less limited in terms of performance and upgradeability. Price for mini-ITX builds is generally a bit steeper, but still usually will fall below anything that tries to use laptop components. In terms of portability, technically they might be worse due to larger size, but neither has a screen anyway. And you ain't hauling your monitor places with any regularity.

Only place where laptop components for a desktop PC found some genuine use is NUCs and similar for office work. Compromises there aren't as severe so the pros of compact size and efficiency can be actually meaningful.

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decimeter2@reddit

In terms of portability, technically they might be worse due to larger size, but neither has a screen anyway. And you ain’t hauling your monitor places with any regularity.

I think the main benefit for ITX PCs is desk space and aesthetics anyway; very few people are actually moving their PCs around. And while going from a midtower to a typical ITX case saves a lot of space, you get very diminishing returns trying to go to a laptop-style compact PC. They’re just not worth the tradeoffs in performance and upgradeability for the vast majority of people.

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IC2Flier@reddit

just take the Minisforum stuff, much better for way less than this asks for

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NeonBellyGlowngVomit@reddit

I really like the idea of mini-PCs using laptop components, what a missed opportunity.

They're all over the place, bro. Beelink makes a ton. Minisforum, Bosgame, Trigkey, GMKtec, etc...

Have a 7840HS based Mini PC right now, 2 SODIMM sockets, two NVMe sockets. Powerful little beast.

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conquer69@reddit

But why? We already have SFF cases.

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Quatro_Leches@reddit

I mean most mini pcs do.

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1soooo@reddit

This is what happens when you lack the economics of scale. Many laptop parts are created in huge quantities on a large assembly line and thus reducing cost dramatically.

Custom projects like these that are produced in small quantities requires a much more expensive per unit manufacturing contract and the fact that new fabrication plants needs to be built just for the "non standard" case does not help at all.

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nisaaru@reddit

That sounds like a real technical achievement to do:-)

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yUQHdn7DNWr9@reddit

05:13 “It’s bleeding. Thanks.”

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MahaloMerky@reddit

This would go hard in a gaming man cave as an HTPC... that's about it.

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conquer69@reddit

Who wants distracting RGB right next to the glossy display they are watching?

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venfare64@reddit

Especially when they gaming inside deep dark cave?

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imaginary_num6er@reddit (OP)

I do not understand why they couldn’t add a clear reservoir over the pump block

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TheSpartanExile@reddit

Looks like a prop from Star Trek

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yacineKCL@reddit

it looks like a Bluetooth speaker, not that it's a bad thing

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gatorbater5@reddit

haha i thought it looked like those vacuum tube amps where they really want you to know it's a tube amp

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Drinking-League@reddit

I’m thankful for stuff like these I saw the adds and seriously was debating on getting one. After this video I’ll pass. It’s neat but not worth the price

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gatorbater5@reddit

was it just the looks?

i bought a minisforum version like this, and something associated with the gpu died and took down the whole system. can't get a video out even though it has an igpu. sucks. it also has a totally bespoke power supply that was a nightmare to replace.

i also have a SFF build that's not a whole lot larger, but it's a normal computer that i simply built with a reasonable power budget. it doesn't look quite as cool (it looks pretty cool tho), but it's much more functional.

i'm totally scared off the minipc+gpu model. i love the concept, but it's too compromised.

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gatorbater5@reddit

it looks cool as heck, and clearly a lot of work was put in to it. but they tripped hard at the finish line with the final tuning and no reservoir.

too bad.