Zimbabwe orders cull of 200 elephants amid food shortages from drought
Posted by chromazgympartner@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Reason for Cull:
Severe drought has led to food shortages.
Overpopulation of elephants in certain areas, particularly Hwange National Park.
Details of the Cull:
Zimbabwe plans to cull 200 elephants.
The culling will occur in areas where elephants have clashed with humans.
Current Elephant Population:
Zimbabwe has an estimated 100,000 elephants.
Hwange National Park, which is designed to support fewer elephants, currently has about 65,000 elephants—more than four times its capacity.
Historical Context:
The last elephant culling in Zimbabwe occurred in 1988.
Comparison with Neighboring Countries:
Namibia is also conducting a cull due to drought, having already culled 160 animals, including 83 elephants.
Criticism:
Concerns that the culling could negatively impact tourism.
Ethical objections regarding the killing of elephants, who are major tourist attractions.
Critics argue that more sustainable and eco-friendly methods should be employed.
Support for Cull:
Some conservationists argue that managing elephant populations is necessary to prevent habitat damage and maintain ecosystem balance.
Supporters claim that uncontrolled elephant populations can lead to significant environmental harm.
Broader Context:
Southern Africa, including Zimbabwe and Namibia, is experiencing widespread drought.
About 42% of Zimbabweans live in poverty, with around 6 million people expected to need food assistance during the lean season.
boracay302@reddit
Zimbabwe President is worth 50 billion. Stealing money. And the people are stupid to understand this.
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/us-sanctions-zimbabwe-president-for-corruption-and-torture-against-his-people
OrDer1A@reddit
And this is why you cant ‘solve’ world hunger.
Kinder22@reddit
Is stupid the word?
boracay302@reddit
Yes as in low education and low awareness
whhe11@reddit
Yeah TF are they supposed to do about it? You know how much security and intelligence 50 billion can buy?
4stars@reddit
too many nig gers to substain themselves. Sooner or later there will be a huge collapse.
lofixlover@reddit
fantasy time: when mugabe jr gets held accountable for his crimes, I really really would appreciate it if someone staked him thru the heart with a big old tusk. that way the curse gets finally broken!
magobblie@reddit
People are starving. If preppers can't stand the thought of killing animals so that humans don't starve, what are you even doing here?
Vesemir66@reddit
We have more people than elephants. Killing a sentient a d extremely intelligent species is murder imo.
Kinder22@reddit
You think an elephant wouldn’t squish you if you were between it and it’s next drink?
Vesemir66@reddit
Irrelevant commentary.
eveebobevee@reddit
Western countries provide aid and as a result, mortality rates drop significantly and population booms.
Maybe we should look how certain aid can cause a destabilization of a particular area in regards to human population.
ReturnMeToHell@reddit
Murder
Trevelayan@reddit
That's incredibly easy to say sitting in an air conditioned western country.
mirkywatters@reddit
Considering the known intelligence of elephants, I agree with the person above. Elephants aren’t dumb animals, and they’re capable of teaching which humans did what bad things to them to other elephants. This isn’t too far off from the Zimbabwe government choosing to cull a tribe of aboriginals because they need to plant more food.
Hairy-Situation4198@reddit
Why wouldn't you do a hunting lottery? The money could then go back into the local economy?
CatastrophicLeaker@reddit
You can’t eat money
Hairy-Situation4198@reddit
Money can buy food and aid.
xdemilitiaman@reddit
Ah fvck.... There is no way to do this where the entire herd isn't devastated for weeks/months after witnessing the tight bond broken by a slug to the heart.
Far_War_7254@reddit
So what does this have to do with prepping?
HighVulgarian@reddit
Rare opportunity to obtain elephant meat
Ber-r-fk69420@reddit
I just got back from safari and this makes me sad. I understand the reasoning behind it but it still blows. These are smart animals with individual personalities.
There is no good solution here.
Turbulent-Tortoise@reddit
I don't actually believe the cull has anything to do with overpopulation and instead has everything to do with starving people.
Frankly, I view the elephants as more valuable. We got over 8 BILLION people. We can spare some.
melympia@reddit
Well, why don't you volunteer to "be spared"?
Turbulent-Tortoise@reddit
Because I was lucky enough to not be born in a 4rd world shithole.
Far_War_7254@reddit
Why are you in a subreddit theoretically meant to aid people in maintaining a good quality of life through turbulence if you think human life is expendable? Seems counterintuitive?
beltalowda_oye@reddit
This is so stupid. Why don't they sell elephants to other countries? I know this is controversial but there would be a lot of reserve/sanctuaries and zoos that would take them in.
boracay302@reddit
Because the politicians will keep the money.
BigJSunshine@reddit
This is very angering.
v-irtual@reddit
Why?
Street-Owl6812@reddit
We know elephants are some of the most developed mammals and they are self-aware and have human-like emotions. So presumably they will be aware that they are being mass murdered and that is very sad. It would be like executing a bunch of dogs. It may be necessary from a conservationist standpoint but its still super upsetting.
Potost@reddit
It would also be like executing a bunch of pigs or cows, they all have similar awareness and emotions. That should be equally upsetting.
v-irtual@reddit
I understand and agree with your points. Thanks for taking time to reapond! How do you not allow it to get to this point? Run around castrating bulls or something?
Sad-Needleworker-325@reddit
They’d have better luck thinking and feeling like a rational adult instead of an emotional child.
v-irtual@reddit
I'm being down voted for simply asking why....
raerazael@reddit
This is depressing
FenceSitterofLegend@reddit
Sounds like two hundred awesome grill outs!
wheelsk7@reddit
This sounds narrow minded, but can they relocate them? I bet there are plenty of places that are trying to repopulate
Dry_Catch7310@reddit
Perfect thing to do during a mass extinction event, no notes
GWS2004@reddit
We deserve to be held accountable for our crimes against nature.
SweetStrangles@reddit
I get elephants are amazing creatures but if it was you and your community looking down the barrel of starvation, I think you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Curious_Donut_8497@reddit
Sadly, humans in general don't care about it, they only cry and rage if they themselves are put in the chopping block, then they rage about government, companies and so on while ignoring that they are also do that, only in a smaller scale.
Immediate_Penalty680@reddit
If there are 50k excess elephants over the national park's capacity, I am susprised they are only culling 200. Sounds like they should be doing two orders of magnitude more.