Anon has political opinions

Yet I think I've once read some political scientist say that for the individual, voting is pretty much irrational because your vote won't count anyway. He acknowledged that if everybody thought that, this would be problematic but still, it's irrational for the individual.

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HeightAdvantage@reddit

Maybe, but voting is a proxy for political engagement. If you want to start convincing others or complaining about political issues, the very first question anyone will ask is, who did you vote for?

If you want to change anything then voting is the foundation from which you can build advocacy. Though if you want to seriously change the outcome of anything, local democracy is the only place you can get consistent results.

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FalseTautology@reddit

As an accelerationist I just want to watch the world burn asap and I honestly can't decide which candidate will immanentize the eschaton quicker so I'ma just abstain and trust my fellow Americans to make the worst choice.

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HeightAdvantage@reddit

Let me guess, you think you'll be totally fine and insulated from the fallout?

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FalseTautology@reddit

Uh no I plan on mad maxing it as a wasteland preacher, using my universal donor blood to barter with warlords to stay safe. In the short term I plan on putting my humanity on hold for a couple years and doing things to survive that haunt me forever.

Beats this soulless corrupt perpetual hell of enslavement and slow meaningless death.

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11711510111411009710@reddit

How does your vote not count? Politicians are elected by votes. If people don't vote, they don't get elected.

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PikachuKiiro@reddit

If you knew the majority of your peers intend to vote someone you don't approve of, what is the point of your vote? What if the election wasn't close at all. You're relevance/choice whatever to the system is statistically nil.

This is just the reality of the current voting systems we use. Veritasium put out a good video on it recently.

To add to the problem, imo the majority of the voting population doesn't understand how governments work at scale, the problems we have and how to fix them. Most of the people running probably have no idea either. You are asked to pick between red and blue when neither is the "objectively" right choice if there was one. There's maybe a yellow and pink out there who are maybe better but most of the voting populace will never know that's a viable option.

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ghost521@reddit

But that’s the thing, if you don’t participate then your opinion can never matter. Even if you vote for the pink amidst a sea of red and blue, that’s you making good on your opinion and what you believe is right for you and others around you.

Voting as a civic duty isn’t really about “winning”, it’s your right as a citizen in a system that lets you exercise your political opinion. The outcome isn’t really the point (especially in a system like the US where things may not be representative of what the people want, but that’s a different can of worms altogether) but in an ideal world, it’d be your own share to shape the society around you. It would be kind of self-defeating and bandwagoning if your vote is decided based on who’s winning/losing, just doesn’t seem to be the right way of thinking/going about it.

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GothaCritique@reddit

It depends on your level of analysis.

If you look at the individual level of analysis, your vote only effects the outcome in case your favored candidate falls short of a win by one or two votes. That has a very low chance of ever happening. And if you consider voting "counts" only if it makes a difference in the final outcome, then yeah at an individula level your vote doesn't count.

Obviously this doesn't carry over to a society-level analysis.

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ElectricSnowBunny@reddit

That's fucking stupid propaganda extrapolated from the very true concept that your vote doesn't decide an election. But it still matters.

Turnout decides elections, especially in 50/50 counties and precincts. If you don't vote, you're mathematically making other people's votes count more. It's the same mathematical concept that postulates whatever grocery line you're in will be the longest one simply because you factor into it.

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T4NJ1M@reddit

voting gives you the right to complain. if you didn’t vote you can’t complain

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Negrom@reddit

What if you hate both candidates equally for different reasons? Are we allowed to complain then?

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T4NJ1M@reddit

vote third party.

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Mothlord03@reddit

NOOOOO if you do that then you're basically voting for the fascists!!!

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Negrom@reddit

I do, basically every election.

Though I’ll openly admit it’s just a protest vote and not all that different from not voting for a POTUS at all. So I won’t shit on those that just vote on state level stuff and omit voting for a presidential candidate at all.

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T4NJ1M@reddit

Yeah, that’s fine. Protest vote is better than no vote.

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JSmith120102@reddit

Voting for president is pretty irrelevant unless you live in a swing state.

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keeleon@reddit

I have successfully not cared who is president for about 40 years.

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jackcabral90@reddit

Ahh i see you enjoy paying taxes, specially to support the ones that rape ur children.

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keeleon@reddit

Huh? Taxation is theft.

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IWantToCobainMyself@reddit

Every candidate for a high position of power is cherry picked by the big companies and rich people, no people's man who's honest will EVER actually have a chance in winning

When a guy who's actually decently qualified to actually win tries to run, they literally rig the system and rob him of his opportunity, e.g., Bernie Sanders

Your vote is absolutely useless in a presidential level, you're choosing between several puppet masters who hold both candidates behind the scenes, it really doesn't matter.

Your voting only matters on a regional level, beyond that you're not actually choosing anything, you're given the illusion of options

I'm not American, so on top of everything that I said my country has an electronic voting system without any paper checking method and everything is counted behind closed doors, so I have absolutely no faith in the system

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DrKoofBratomMD@reddit

decently qualified

bernie sanders

Yeah decently qualified to take your donation and buy another mansion with it. He’s not even a champagne socialist just an outright grifter. No wonder he’s been quiet this election cycle, old fuck probably realized capitalism is pretty tight after all and being old and rich in America is fun

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IWantToCobainMyself@reddit

i didn't say he is a perfect candidate, but it's miles better than anything that americans have as an option right now, he literally got robbed

also, isn't he a senator for almost 20 years and has another decade in politics? if you don't get rich by just receiving your salary and investing you're legit braindead, not even taking any donation or illegal money into account.

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Passance@reddit

To be fair, it's not inconsistent. They're not voting because they vocally hate both candidates. They will continue to vocally hate both candidates after not voting.

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LnDxLeo@reddit

As a russian I can say one thing:
If your president changes on a regular basis - voting isn't dumb.

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sink_pisser_@reddit

When was the last time we voted Israel out of power?

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sillyyun@reddit

Hope you survive once they ship you to Ukraine, for your statements on the democratic superiority of the USA

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LnDxLeo@reddit

Huh? Who would ship? They only grab those who dumb enough to come to draft office.

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AlfaSurgical@reddit

I should've never signed those draft papers!

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FluffyMcKittenHeads@reddit

So every Russian?

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GiveMeAKnober@reddit

Where can I find more images of that girl

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AlfaSurgical@reddit

inside out rule 34

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Aozora404@reddit

Irrelevant time wasting question

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k605@reddit

Lust provoking image

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Big-Secretary-7515@reddit

The 4 and the Chan

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Evening_Constant6644@reddit

The infamous hacker

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MrFoxpin@reddit

Sage in all fields

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Pola2020@reddit

4chan classic

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i_hate_scp@reddit

Yes that was the joke.

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k605@reddit

Thank you for confirming

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PeksyTiger@reddit

Many such cases

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thEldritchBat@reddit

>look at image

>lol list provoking ima-

>something about it is off

>face of AI chick is familiar

>stare for a while

>suddenly realize why the face is familiar

>it’s the little girl from inside out

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TomaszA3@reddit

If something made by "ai" looks good, it's only because it failed not to straight up plagiarize the thing it's supposed to make.

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sand_nagger@reddit

oh wow, you ask for specific thing in prompt and you get specific thing ai bad 😡

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C_umputer@reddit

Coincidently, the other version is also called "Inside out", but for whole different reasons

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victor4700@reddit

That chick with prolapsed anus? Blossom?

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GandalfTheGimp@reddit

Why you watching childrens movies bro

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PreviousWar6568@reddit

Inside out is a good movie not gonna lie

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Track607@reddit

Isn't it kind of woke?

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sillyyun@reddit

Not really, it’s just about feelings and growing up

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Track607@reddit

So, before the Kathleen Kennedy days then

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sillyyun@reddit

What

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Track607@reddit

You don't know about Mrs. Kennedy?

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Turbulent-Music5471@reddit

Has nothing to do with fucking PIXAR

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Track607@reddit

But Disney own Pixar

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schmitzel88@reddit

If you think that movie is woke you need to recalibrate yourself lol

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Track607@reddit

But I was just asking

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thEldritchBat@reddit

I have kids I take care of

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iPlowedUrMom@reddit

That's not how you do it

Pump and dump

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Track607@reddit

But then who will succeed me?

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RadaRAW@reddit

not noticing the six fingers

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sillyyun@reddit

I thought it was meant to be cartoon sydney sweeney

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Robber_Baron44@reddit (OP)

ye

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Tight_Assignment_949@reddit

The image looks generic af, if you hadnt mentioned it i wouldnt have made the connecrion to that movie.

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YouCantStopMeJannie@reddit

I don't understand how with the idiotic system of not direct democracy, there isn't a “fuck the vote” movement in the US.

Are they silly?

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that image

I’m glad to see my Riley posting machinations on /pol/ are spreading to other anons muwhahaha

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