Do you give money to homeless people?
Posted by ShampooandCondition@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 779 comments
I’m struggling myself at the moment a little and when I was asked by a person on the street for some money, I had to say no which I hate doing. I got home and felt awful so went back and found them and gave them some change I had on the bedside table. Does anyone else give to them?
uxhihq@reddit
if i have something to spare i'll always try to give, most people are really only a few bad days away from being in the same situation
royalblue1982@reddit
The charities that care about the homeless tell you not to give them money.
I'm not sure how it can be any clearer.
intenseskill@reddit
You say that like they are some sort of know all group who is always right.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
I mean, nobody is claiming to be omniscient… but if you’re a charity that cares for the homeless then I’m probably going to take it as gospel that they might just know a tad more about homelessness than I do personally
TotoCocoAndBeaks@reddit
Isnt the problem that it s a bit of a straw man that the charities actually say to not give money to homeless people? Ar very best you are cherry picking. A quick search shows thats not what the charities say
Togden013@reddit
Don't give them money give them food and water.
uglybett1@reddit
bcz they aren't human beings that should be able to do things with money just like other human beings?
Togden013@reddit
I think the homeless people where you live are wildly different to the ones near me. When I go to the city for work I see them high out of their minds barely conscious. It's very obvious they are not able to make reasonable choices any more. I'm sure they once were and could be again but living on the streets destroys a persons will to live and all that's left is pain avoidance.
Either you've not seen many homeless people or the ones you have are in a very different place.
poopoopoopoooooo@reddit
If you’re about to spend a night cold, alone, and going through heroin withdrawals, a sandwich isn’t going to help.
some1saveusnow@reddit
What are you suggesting they need?
minisrugbycoach@reddit
Money with no judgement or conditions attached to it's spending.
some1saveusnow@reddit
That’s going to drugs then
muskratking97@reddit
I'd rather be cold alone and going through heroin withdrawals than cold, alone, going through withdrawals, and hungry...
Illustrious_Cap_7969@reddit
That's because you don't have an understanding of withdrawals or homelessness. Not one thing is going to be on your mind except withdrawal while withdrawing
Dangerous_Day1911@reddit
Hungry will be the last thing your feeling. Withdrawal is without a doubt, the absolute worst feeling in the world. It's not just physical, it's mental. It's all encompassing, every atom of your being feels like it's dying an agonising death.
The thing is, if you were to pass someone in that situation, what realistically can you do for them? You can't house them, or give them the medication they require. You can't provide therapy to help heal whatever part of them is so hurt that even the hellish existence they're enduring is still preferable to just living as themselves. If you have money, and wanted to help, wouldn't aliviating the misery just for the night be a good thing? It might feel wrong and uncomfortable, but then you have to ask yourself, who are doing this for? Is it about helping another soul? Or the feelings you get for doing that? In that moment the number one priority for that person is not being sick anymore. It's the thing that might make that night survivable
Eayauapa@reddit
Mate if you're going through opioid withdrawals that sandwich is gonna do less good than tying to cure HIV with Calpol
FlippingGerman@reddit
Will heroin help?
Designer-Historian40@reddit
Some homeless people will throw away food and drink given to them because some not very nice people adulterate it.
I know you're not one of these people, but it only takes one bad experience for a homeless person to not trust anyone.
Katharinemaddison@reddit
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/12/alcoholic-patients-keep-drinking-doctor
TEFAlpha9@reddit
Just let them buy their drugs and alcohol they're already homeless might as well enjoy it lol
Changin_Rangin@reddit
Hasn't he just got one source same as you?
TotoCocoAndBeaks@reddit
Missing my point, I'm not the one claiming anything. I'm just pointing out that a quick google search for charities opinions on giving money to homeless doesn't return the consensus that OP suggested was the case. I didn't cherry pick, I just copied the opinions of the first two charities in the search results.
Also, that was two sources, not one.
feelinglofi@reddit
"a widespread misconception that is [...] partly true"
Is it a misconception then? Off topic, but I care about semantics
TotoCocoAndBeaks@reddit
Well yeah, if you are treating an issue with a huge deal of nuance as black and white, then you can be wrong for believing the black option.
Halbera@reddit
Lol, don't give the homeless your money, give it to us! We will use it wisely, promise. -Awareness charity #1283839 that's never helped anyone with anything but has directors taking large salaries.
recapYT@reddit
You think charities want to take the 10p you want to give to people on the street?
Halbera@reddit
Yes, and you don't need to look far to see how the charity company structure is abused.
There are some great charities out there, but most people aren't doing any fact checking when they donate to a cause.
There is a problem with 'awareness charities' that literally make leaflets and run ads as a means to increase their own income through donations, skimming salaries from the money and effectively doing nothing.
I personally donate to the air ambulance in our area because it's not funded by the government, which is mad to me considering how vital it is and how expensive it is. I put company profits into it and consider it a tax. Because of all the things we pay our tax for, the air ambulance isn't one?? Insane.
NSFWaccess1998@reddit
This sounds like it was written by ChatGPT if I'm honest. I'd be surprised if the charity which produced this statement put any thought into it. It's effectively the old politician special, "I think we should do what is right for the country", totally vapid and meaningless filler designed to offend nobody.
FlippingGerman@reddit
ChatGPT probably wouldn’t have put that weird unsentence right at the end, that’s a thing humans like to do.
marsman@reddit
That's a bit bizarre, both of those aren't really available on a cash basis easily, both are available free via the health service (certainly on an emergency basis).
I'd have thought that its more likely that food/bus travel etc..are more likely to be things that a rough sleeper/someone begging might spend money on.
intenseskill@reddit
Exactly, my main thing was the way the guy stated it "it couldn't be any clearer". Like who made them god. People acting like because I said that I am claiming I know e erything. Which is not the case
intenseskill@reddit
Well your quote from them makes me think the opposite tbh
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
I’m not quite sure what you’re arguing here… they’re not stopping you. Go give your income to a homeless guy, I’m sure they’ll be very grateful…
But I also think there might be a proportion which would probably just go on to spend it on booze and smack, as opposed to giving it to a charity which I’m sure provide things like healthy meals, shelter and bedding and whatnot, y’know, hence the charities asking to donate to them instead as they, too, likely know this.
But if ultimately you don’t really care then you’re free to give your money to who you like, which you are, so I’m not sure what the problem is
intenseskill@reddit
My point is that to say not to give them cash is just bad advice. Also they are going to say give to the charity instead because most charities are essentially a business that make money.
Charities will do good I have no doubt but that one piece of advice is just bad.
leashninja@reddit
The reason why is that it encourages more begging which is considered anti-social behaviour.
Homeless people in the UK can apply to have a homeless application and duty by their local councils, which will provide them with temporary accommodation if they’re past the prevention stage depending on their own personal circumstances.
Charities help provide guidance and supplies at times, however theres a sizeable amount of people who are considered “intentionally” homeless where they won’t accept a housing duty provided by their local council and some may even prefer to sleep rough rather than be housed. (Often a mental disorder is the reason). Some don’t have “access to public funds” which means supporting them will be an issue from a council PoV due to their immigration status. Charities can help aid in this area.
There is support out there but a significant amount of people may not like what they want. Outreach officers exist and are intended to help provide support. Sure some of these services aren’t great and homelessness is on the rise.
But giving money away only encourages them to ask even more. The solution really lies in placing them in the right environment and with the right support. Giving spare change is actually a form of enabling, if you really want to get into the nitty gritty of this.
barrythecook@reddit
Sometimes the Council does sometimes it doesn't IME (source have been homeless more than once and still know quite a few rough sleepers) they're if anything quite random.with it all especially since there's no one to complain to who will actually listen since the you in this circumstance is clearly just a tramp of no value to decent human beings.
intenseskill@reddit
Yeah that is a good point. I guess my pov is only from that of the beggar. It does encourage it but rather them beg than steal. I think you are correct though to have the government help. They need to make heroin substitute programs more available. Idk how it is now but it used to be they would only put you on a methadone program if you was taking 50 pounds worth a day.
escoces@reddit
Your local drug dealer thanks you kindly for the donation.
intenseskill@reddit
You say that like some sort of gotcha when I have literally said I fully expect the to buy drugs
escoces@reddit
Ok so your local smackhead thanks you kindly for more of the substance causing their misery.
intenseskill@reddit
You are showing you have no clue. You cannot force someone to stop. Denying someone drugs is just causing pain. If anything if you gave someone steady access to the drugs they take they are more likely to quit that way. The chase for drugs never let's you reflect
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
I mean, you’re talking like “pain” is objectively bad.
I don’t doubt chemotherapy isn’t exactly “comfortable”, but it’s a necessary path to health and normality. I don’t think the answer for drug addicts is to just keep pumping them with drugs for fear they’ll be in pain in the road to recovery. I’m sure an overdose is a lot more painful than a temporary discomfort which ultimately leads to being clean
intenseskill@reddit
Come on man. I am not saying we actually do that. I am just saying that would more likely be more effective than trying to force someone off drugs.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
But you kind of are saying we actually do that when we’re discussing charity and you say “Well I’d rather give them cash to buy drugs than a sandwich” - which, again, wasn’t the dichotomy we were talking about, but we certainly are talking about a choice between rehabilitation through charity or drug use, and you seem to be standing by the drug use
intenseskill@reddit
Hey man I just wanted to say ty for the kind words regarding my addiction and also after reading hat you and others have said I find myself maybe agreeing about not giving cash. Not all the way there but for sure giving it some though as people have made a few great points
intenseskill@reddit
No that is what you are talking about. Just you I made one comment about charity and I have since told you I have no issue with charity or what they do.
My one point is their advice is wrong. That is all. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
I am saying right here I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH CHARITIES AND WHAT THEY DO. THEY HELP PEOPLE WHICH IS GOOD.
escoces@reddit
I am not denying them drugs. I am choosing not to fund the drugs, which ultimately is the thing which is causing them to suffer. Giving them drugs outside of a medical setting is not good for them, and despite your patronising tone i imagine that one day you will think the same.
intenseskill@reddit
Are you really gonna act like am the only one patronising here?
Outsurgent@reddit
It’s really not - i worked with homeless people and unfortunately the truth is they are often suffering from complex issues that leave them unable to manage themselves, particularly money. If you give those on the street what they ask for you’re essentially enabling them to stay on the street and avoid seeking/accepting help that is out there. Often there is no overnight solution. Charities are best placed to find, build a relationship with those in need and safeguard them. Of course they need money to do this, it takes management and admin to coordinate this on top of the outreach workers. By allowing a person with complex needs the means to stay homeless you’re essentially keeping them from seeking/accepting help and ultimately doing more harm than good. Homelessness is more often than not a result of serious mental health issues, trauma and unfortunate circumstances that leave someone unable to deal with their life circumstances. Homelessness leaves a serious toll on someone, particularly women, whom will long standing aftercare when housed. Plus there is also a subset who fein homelessness just as they know they can make more begging on the street. There are also loads of scams/tricks those on the street will play to get cash. such as asking for food where they will simply go back and hand in the food in exchange for cash when you’re gone. Shops don’t want the trouble so they simply do ask. You should also know there are some who are in servitude/debt bondage and made to beg for larger organised crime groups such as traffickers. So not giving money to homeless is not just a bad idea it can actually be harmful.
intenseskill@reddit
Yeah what you say makes sense. I just cannot help but empathise with someone who is going through withdrawal. But honestly you make me think about it more long term. Idk maybe next time I may do sketching different.
CryptographerSmall32@reddit
Your point is wrong Mr Intenseskill. Off you go no lol
intenseskill@reddit
No it is not. If you think so then you have no clue
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
Yet again you’re failing to provide any evidence.
These people are writing out paragraphs of explanations and you’re just saying “No you’re wrong because I said so.”
Well maybe you are right! But we’ve got no reason to believe a word you say because “You have no clue” is not evidence. It just looks like a cop out because you yourself have no proof
intenseskill@reddit
There is no proof. Where is his evidence I am wrong? You have not even tried to tell me I am wrong. I speak from experience and if someone's argument is "you're wrong" then I will tell them the same based on what I know.
intenseskill@reddit
What? This guy has not written barely anything. He has literally just done the thing you are saying I am wrong for doing.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
I agree charities can be/are business-like and it’s common sense that a charity isn’t going to dissuade you from giving to them at all…
However, some homeless people will spend the cash you give them on drugs - whereas no charities will spend your money on drugs for the homeless.
I’m not saying all homeless people are irresponsible, I’m saying it’s a gamble of a risk that is eliminated by just filtering it through the charity first.
I’m still not sure what your basis is for “Not giving them cash is bad advice.”
intenseskill@reddit
My point is they will for sure buy drugs because they literally need them. No point buy an addict a sandwich he cannot eat because withdrawals are ripping his stomach to pieces. You cannot force someone to stop and once an addict they need that fix to feel even remotely normal. Being an ex addict I know what it is like so I will give cash and fully expect them to buy drugs.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
So your proposal for a homeless man full of heroin… is to give them more heroin - specifically in the context of a choice between that, and donating to industries designed specially to shelter and rehabilitate and detoxify these people to be able to renter them into society…?
Just for clarity, that is the choice you’re advocating we make in these circumstances?
And, if you don’t mind me asking, given that your an ex-addict (well done by the way, congrats), was it less or more substance that got you off your addiction?
intenseskill@reddit
Also I have not a aid don't donate to charity. This is what I hate about reddit. People just seem to make up stuff and act like you are saying stuff you never said
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
No, we’re having a discussion about charity and every response you’ve given has both implicitly and explicitly discouraged charity use and favoured direct donation to the homeless, specifically instead of charity donation and you have not once addressed either a reason why, nor advocated any kind of charity use…
This isn’t a Reddit issue, this is purely taken from what you have - or rather haven’t - said, as, believe it or not, we can’t read your mind and can only go by what you type.
intenseskill@reddit
No you was talking about charity. I was not except for the one point I made about their bad advice.
I replied about why they might say to not give homeless cash directly and that is all. I have nothing against homeless charities I merely stated it was bad advice and gave a reason as to why they might say that.
You have just talked a lot about charities and for some reason inferred a lot of stuff I never said
intenseskill@reddit
I don't understand how you got there? How am I saying give someone full of heroin more heroin? I have not said that.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
The choice we were discussing was not you buy them a sandwich or just give them cash. We’re talking about donating to a charity (who does not just hand out sandwiches either, but is equipped to deal precisely with addiction, on top of providing shelter and rehabilitating) or to give cash to the homeless directly.
You’re standing by the fact that you’d rather give to the homeless directly and know it will fuel their addiction, therefore actively plying them with more drugs and pushing them further from safety and health than give to a charity specifically designed to handle those issues.
You’re actively maintaining someone’s addiction over choosing to donate to a charity, which you are still yet to explain an aversion to
intenseskill@reddit
I was making a point about why cash is often preferable to buying food. I never said don't donate to charity. Only reason charity is mentioned is because someone mentioned advice from them like it is god give law or something.
Idk why you keep bringing up charity tbh, I have never even said give to homeless and don't give to charity.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
Look at the top comment of this thread.
This discussion entirely comes from a comment about someone saying “Charities say don’t give directly to the homeless.”… and you’re asking why we’re talking about charities…?
Narrow_Maximum7@reddit
He seems like one of the "system is against me" types that probably lives in a subsided house and ows csa. Could be completely wrong but has that rhetoric
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
Maybe he can’t hear reason over the crinkle of his tin foil blanket… who knows?
poopoopoopoooooo@reddit
Spoken like a man with a great deal of compassion for the homeless.
ThePumpk1nMaster@reddit
Which part of comment was offensive to the homeless? I’m quite clearly talking about people who are paranoid about industries misspending money… nothing to do with the homeless. Spoken like a man who hasn’t read the comment and jumped to conclusions
Narrow_Maximum7@reddit
Maybe he just likes to argue.
Ourkidof91@reddit
Well what did you think I was going to spend it on? They’re on the streets what else are they gonna do with a few quid? Save up for a deposit?
Weird1Intrepid@reddit
There is a very high chance that the money you give to a homeless person will be spent on tending their addictions, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Junkies and heavy alcoholics both need to feed their habits daily, or experience horrible withdrawal symptoms. So, one way or another, they are going to get that money. Most addicts aren't inherently bad people, but circumstances have already led them to making bad decisions and the addiction only makes things bleaker. What I'm saying is that if they can get money from begging, then they won't end up shoplifting or worse things like mugging people or robbing houses.
Charities and the council already provide food, shoes and clothing, sometimes tents and sleeping bags, sometimes winter shelter etc., so there's not a whole lot that they need money for. Cigarettes can be had for free by re-rolling fag ends out of ashtrays, so the only thing they really need money for are the substances that help them get through another day living at the bottom of the societal ladder.
I mean, as you said, giving to the charities certainly helps too, if not money then food donations or unwanted clothing and the like, I just wanted to point out that giving money to the homeless has a positive effect too, in a roundabout way.
Source: I was homeless for 15 years and ran the whole gauntlet of crack and heroin addiction, getting clean, trading that addiction for alcoholism, sleeping in shop doorways or passing out in bushes, always getting aggro from the police, from people who treat us worse than dog shit, from the council. Never being taken seriously by doctors because "it's obviously all self inflicted" etc etc. Not to say there aren't good people out there, but it's very easy to fall into despair when it feels like everything and everybody is stacked against you. Getting a bottle of rum just to be able to get some sleep can make a shit day a whole lot better.
LarryThePrawn@reddit
Yes because the homeless may spend it on substances if they have an addiction. But if they’re on the street, suffering withdrawal, it’s forgivable to want to appease that. The ‘homed’ spend their money on substances, living on the street arguably justifies the need for escapism much more.
Reasonable-You1809@reddit
Especially when their advice saves me money x
Django-lango@reddit
Ikr, I used to work at a homeless charity called Emmaus. Never heard that said lol
W0otang@reddit
And in the same tone organisations say don't feed animals at the zoo
Togden013@reddit
So I think its more that there is a range of types of homeless people. At one end you have the very sad situation where they are on the streets and staying drunk or high to numb the experience as much as they can and at the other end there is the type of person who just isn't compatible with the whole fixed place of living in a house who just kind of roams from place to place without ever staying in a house.
Unfortunately the kind of homeless person that actually asks you for money is typically the former. I don't think you are likely to ever meet the latter however I have heard these people exist. If you give someone like that money they will just pour it into drugs and alcohol and it makes it harder for them to ever escape the situation. If you give the money to charities, they are experienced with helping homeless people and you avoid making their situation worse. The other issue with it is that any money spend on illegal substances tends to be funnelled towards other illegal activates like producing the drugs and terrorism.
Its worth considering that their job is to help those people so they are going to have taken the time to understand it a lot better than people like us who have just read about it briefly on reddit.
Whipit-Whipitgood@reddit
They are right. They do have vast experience of and work with homeless people. There are many reasons why people become homeless but giving just money only perpetuates why they are in the streets. They need practical help not a few coppers.
Ambry@reddit
I mean, what do you think most homeless people spend the money on?
I-like-IT-Things@reddit
Compared to you who is always right?
Thandoscovia@reddit
Instead they’re just charities dedicated to helping the homeless, so what they know about helping the homeless?
Slag13@reddit
Not all charities are readily available to homeless people. And “them” seems a bit derogatory. One day you could be “them”. I certainly hope not. I speak from experience & want you to know, I am one of the fortunates of “them”. IT WAS THE MOST EXCRUCIATING TIMES IN MY LIFE & I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME OF THE BIGGEST TRAUMAS THAT LIFE CAN DELIVER: One being my dad was murdered. I know that’s somewhat frank but I am just trying to express THINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS AS THEY APPEAR WALK A MILE (WITHOUT YOUR SIGHT) ~
Rocky-bar@reddit
Do you mean you were homeless? If so, how did you feel about the being given money vs food thing?
Slag13@reddit
Yes I was homeless. I didn’t feel anything but unbearably grateful to get a cup of coffee (& had to relapse from being vegetarian for fvcking chicken nuggets). When you’re legitimately hungry it really is way past feeling ashamed.
Rocky-bar@reddit
It seems to me that money is the best choice, rather than just going off and getting random food e.g chicken nuggets for a vegetarian, at least with money you could have a choice.
Slag13@reddit
I was just hungry. I had never experienced hunger before. I was just genuinely grateful to put something in my stomach, to quiet that gnawing feeling: cos quite frankly it was irritating the hell out of me that it wouldn’t shut up. I mean people go on hunger strikes for weeks and don’t die…. I think money or food is good but only if a person can. They shouldn’t be made to feel pressured or guilty. Just my opinion.
Millefeuille-coil@reddit
You have quite clearly never been homeless, in the many guises of life i have been homeless finding food and somewhere moderately safe to sleep is a constant struggle and anything donated here and there really helps.
Personally i found my way out.
intenseskill@reddit
I have been homeless and anything is good but cash is king. You can stop your self from shaking from dts by getting your alcohol and then buy food also. People here have no clue about addiction. If you buy an addict food then he might not even be able to eat it without throwing up if he has not had his fix.
tommycamino@reddit
DTS? Sorry to ask
intenseskill@reddit
Sorry i Meant d.t's
tommycamino@reddit
What's that short for?
intenseskill@reddit
Oh again sorry it stands for dementia tremors and it is the shakes you get when you are an alcoholic and you don't drink
tommycamino@reddit
Thank you and no need to apologise :)
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
Yep. I do know. It’s why I give cash when I can.
There’s lots of moralising around drug and alcohol use. It’s easier to think it cant happen to you because you’re a good person. But addiction can and does happen on all life levels.
MacPuf@reddit
Yes and also half the people not giving are probably having a drink that evening themselves anyway - 😒
turgottherealbro@reddit
I think the point is they're having that drink because they can afford it
MacPuf@reddit
The point is why judge people if they do end up having a drink because someone gave them some change especially because your having one because you can afford it
turgottherealbro@reddit
I guess because most people wouldn’t have one if they couldn’t afford it? Eating out and Alcohol are the first things that go on my list if I’m having tight times and the homeless people in question aren’t having a night cap in the most cases, they’re struggling alcoholics and people feed bad about funding such a destructive addiction. I can see both sides. I personally give cash, but I also would prefer they don’t use it further habits that will keep them on the streets.
Millefeuille-coil@reddit
For me it wasn't addiction just an unfortunate series of events, Army taught me to be a survivor
tcpukl@reddit
Army probably screwed you over to start with.
SirThomssBombadil@reddit
That's one hell of an assumption to make about a person's life and circumstances
KeyImprovement5735@reddit
Which charity? I can't find any charity telling not to give money to the homeless. Please share source.
So far I found
Also a Guardian article: Should you give homeless people money? Absolutely - written by Tamsen Courteny, an author of a book on homelessness.
Interestingly, only advice I could find to not give money was coming from a city council member, police, and a business directory. (Public urged to give money to charity rather than to people who beg) Thought it was kind of telling that no charity rep was mentioned in the article.
AllOne_Word@reddit
Did you ask this question only to downvote people who gave you a straight answer?
lotus49@reddit
Thank you for this intelligent and well-researched post.
The post you are responding to was upvoted by people who are trying to assuage their guilt over not helping.
No-one is bound to help but a small amount of money can make a real difference to a homeless person's day, which is presumably hellish most of the time.
AllOne_Word@reddit
Founder of the Big Issue says:
“I have never met a healthy beggar who was healthy a year later. By our gifts, we give them a reason to be on the street rather than in an environment where they could be helped,” Mr Bird said.
“People who give are murdering whatever chance those people have of getting off the streets. By giving them money, you are effectively cementing them onto the streets because you are not giving them an alternative to street existence,” he said
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-10049325.html
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
Superb 👏👏👏👏
antebyotiks@reddit
They say generally to give money to charities instead so it's slightly different to the standard "don't give them Money"
KeyImprovement5735@reddit
None of the charities above say to give money to charities instead of giving money!
Giving to charities is a long-term solution but there is much more overhead and it is not helping the person in front of you who may have immediate need.
Giving to a beggar provide immediate help and makes you engage with the person (which is emphasised by all charities), but it is a short-term solution and the money might be used for alcohol, drugs, etc.
So clearly both have pros and cons. I personally find a good middle ground by giving regular donations to charities and only smaller changes or stuff on the street when I can.
antebyotiks@reddit
I'm not arguing mate, just saying they always say it's better to give money to charities as they help more.
BannedFromHydroxy@reddit
Who is "they" in this circumstance? That voice on the tube?
Sophie_Blitz_123@reddit
No but specifically which charities? Where can I find their statements on this?
jimmery@reddit
This should be higher up.
FireLadcouk@reddit
The same charities run by people taking a decent wack of those donations as their wages. Please. Why would they recommend you cut out the middle man (ie them?) they’d be out of a job 😂
Dont get me wrong. The charities do a lot of good but i still give individually. Honestly if they spend it on drink or drugs im not bothered. Lets give them some hours of escapism. Honestly i can’t imagine how shit it is. Anything that helps them. Naive to think they can talk into a job and house
batteryforlife@reddit
You are seriously mistaken if you think the vast majority of people that work for charities are living it up on big fat paychecks. A couple of big wigs at the top get a decent packet, the rest do it for the love of their fellow man. And dont forget about all the volunteers as well!
FireLadcouk@reddit
I would be. Good job thats not what i said 😂
You’ve mis-read or missed the point completely. If i gave £1 to someone in the street. They get £1. If i give £1 to a charity a fair whack of it (10%+) goes to funding the charity and paying wages etc
batteryforlife@reddit
Thats true. But a charity can do bigger things with your pound, and many others, than just your pound going directly to one person. Thats the point.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Sure. I never said anything different. You’re making different points every comment 😂. Im not arguing against charities. Just making the point that their advice is bias as they also want to protect their existence
Zabkian@reddit
I thought I was doing the right thing giving food instead of money. I was surprised when a friend's husband who runs such a charity advised not to give food or money.
I thought it was such a simple problem to solve an immediate need for a meal. Bbut apparently money/food gifts dissuade people from engaging with charities and getting help.
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
So let's all starve and freeze the homeless until they bend to the will of a charity?
IndiaMike1@reddit
This is it. They are not engaging with the charities for a reason - because many of them are dehumanising, are overrun, have unattainable standards and clearly do not work.
Absolutely fucking wild to suggest that we should make miserable people more miserable so the miserable state of the services there to help them will suddenly seem less miserable.
echocardio@reddit
The reasons the homeless people I regularly see and deal with in town do not engage with services are not because of the ones you just listed. It’s usually because they have significant mental health issues, or because they are prolific abusers of other homeless people, or both.
That isn’t to say what you’ve said about services is wrong, but the suggestion that you could solve homelessness by bringing services up to a specific standard is. My area has trialled dedicated no-strings single housing for homeless people - widely considered the best approach- and several have completely failed to engage with it.
Littlelindsey@reddit
Or they’ve got a dog and the charity will try to force them to give up their dog to go into a shelter
AussieHxC@reddit
Yep. It's sadly very common. British Legion are terrible for this, turning their backs on squaddies who come back and struggle to reintegrate due to mental health issues and/or turning to substances to cope.
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
Definitely. A new blanket, cash for a can of lager, coffee, chippy supper, a friendly respectful hello and wish them well. Take your pick.
antebyotiks@reddit
I'm sure these same charities are also the ones who complain about shops or councils for bringing in anti rough sleeping measures like arm rests on benches etc
TrashbatLondon@reddit
Worth nothing this person is unaligned with pretty much every mainstream charity who have no issue with people giving money or food.
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
Agree. It's basic humanity to extend a helping hand
Kaiisim@reddit
No, just stop treating addiction and serious mental illness as a problem that needs a sandwich or £5.
£5 to a charity will probably get a cooked meal not a shitty meal deal.
LegendEater@reddit
It's not a problem that needs a sandwich or a fiver, but it's certainly not gonna harm them.
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
£5 to a charity might get you a hot meal at some point in the future - but when the person is freezing in a doorway now - £5 is a lifeline to get them through the day.
Acceptable_Candle580@reddit
Reddit moment.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Exactly. Why are we ignoring this guy works for the charity. He gets paid. His opinion isn’t expert it’s bias. He’d be out of a job if we all helped without the middle man
Slag13@reddit
Precisely!
lotus49@reddit
The charities should be be able to poke them with cattle prods until the homeless do as they are instructed, shouldn't they?
There are a lot of reasons why people may not engage with charities. We should not stand in judgement over them but be compassionate.
Business-Poet-2684@reddit
Your friends husband probably received generous grants for feeding homeless and doesn’t want you, or anyone else taking a chunk out of his lucrative business!
Business-Poet-2684@reddit
I volunteer (unpaid) for a homeless charity in a major UK city. I get involved in raising funds for the charity and one weekend a month I take my turn on the dusk to dawn city walk, offering clothing and food to people sleeping rough! The ‘charities’ you refer to demand a level of sobriety and commitment from homeless people before they will help which in most cases is ludicrous - these people are living rough for a reason and the drugs and alcohol, although ultimately damaging them and even killing them helps blot out those reasons! So before you get on your sanctimonious high horse find out a little about the subject matter!
SmartOpinion8301@reddit
Isn’t the point to try to help these poor people out of their situation by offering a way out with their commitment? Rather than, like you say, dying to drugs and alcohol on the street.
I get that some of them will never and can never achieve this. That’s horrible and they would need donations from people passing by. But I imagine there are a lot of rough sleepers that can manage this, teenagers that have been kicked out, people that find themselves homeless due to situations other than drug addiction and a charity which supports these people can make a huge difference.
If you stop giving to those charities too then everyone loses out
Business-Poet-2684@reddit
I never said stop giving to charities - I said that by ONLY giving g to charities and not sometimes directly then there will be people, a higher proportion, that miss out! There are also the scammers (not as many as the Daily Mail would have you believe but they are around’ Believe it or not it’s not too hard to spot them - they aren’t around of a night, they don’t want food, they tend to avoid other homeless people. If you can afford £10 give £5 to the charity of ur choice and £5 to someone sleeping rough, preferably later on - or don’t! It’s your money, you decide!! All I started by saying was the ‘friend’ who runs the charity potentially doesn’t want the contributor to give them money direct is cos he misses out on his cut!!!
CryptographerSmall32@reddit
What do you do for the homeless exactly? The advice given is the same advice used worldwide to encourage engagement with organisations who can help long term and get people the support they need. Being homeless is very rarely a choice and charities provide mental health and drug support amongst other services to help people get back on their feet.
If you don’t have anything decent to say then consider staying quiet perhaps.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Please. If youre going to argue argue against the point. Dont change it. Noone is interested in what a random redditer gives or not. You can have critical view without saying you can single handedly solve the problem of homelessness
aycsdcfo@reddit
There's an Australian "charity" around the corner from me that gets loads of donations every day. Once when a homeless man asked for a blanket they said "yes thats $30 please". The man said "can i not get one without money " and they replied "the public donate to us for us to sell not give away". I was disgusted and have never donated to them again.
TrashbatLondon@reddit
There is precisely zero chance the man who “runs” a charity has any evidence to support this. He’s talking out of his arse.
nicdic89@reddit
That’s so dystopian though. There is no way if a homeless person said to me that all they need is something warm to eat and drink for right now, especially in these colder months, then I’ll be doing that, it’s the least I can do for a fellow human!!
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
Do you know why? Because many of these charities won’t help you if you’re in active addiction.
Where I come there is a policy of housing first. It’s so much easier to get clean and sober when you have a place to live.
antebyotiks@reddit
So make life harder so they are desperate enough to seek help. Weird.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Money is better. Or taking them into the shop with you and letting them order and u pay. Sadly some people give them poisoned or dodgey food
jpepsred@reddit
Anyone can get food from a food bank, so it’s true that they don’t need food donations. People generally beg because they have no interest in getting help from the system that’s there to help them get back on their feet. 99% of people who need it do take the help that’s available
gigabigga3@reddit
Businesses that survive on donations say not to give money directly to their “customers”? That’s shocking
lotus49@reddit
There couldn't possibly be a conflict of interest between charities for the homeless and the homeless themselves, could there?
Some homeless people will not engage with charities for whatever reason, often serious mental health issues. They need help even more. I may not do much but I do something to help people like that.
minisrugbycoach@reddit
I think that's because it takes money away from the charity directors that skim a percentage off every donation you make to them.
Not all, but some of those "charities" are very profitable businesses making some people a lot of money.
Wonderful_Formal_804@reddit
I give money to whoever I want, whenever I want, without regard to anyone's opinion.
Pink-socks@reddit
Except on Wednesdays?
random_invisible@reddit
On Wednesdays he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea
bife_de_lomo@reddit
When I get rudely awakened by the dustman
hochiho923@reddit
why dont you put your trousers on, have a cuppa tea. Then you will be thinking about about leaving the house.
Ok-Bad-9499@reddit
Good comment
Django-lango@reddit
How tf did this comment get so many upvotes. It's a load of shite.
aycsdcfo@reddit
Thats because the "charities" want to make money off them. In what world would anybody decent say dont help someone in need.
xnocox@reddit
Not every homeless person is the same though, I remember I gave this one woman 5 pounds before, after I finished work & was about to get on the bus to go home. She was a black lady, maybe in her mid 50's, and she just burst out crying and hugged me and I bent down to hug her and she kissed me on the cheek and just told me how she'd recently became homeless & stuff but she was just so genuine and sad I really just wanted to do more but wasn't in a position to do so. Then ofcourse there's the homeless that you offer to buy food and they turn you down & say they'd rather the cash. & the ones that get into expensive cars at the end of the day & have probably made more begging in a day than some people make in 2 or 3 days of work. Just saying though you've gotta be human & just go with what you feel sometimes. Often a bit of money for some food, or even giving them food & /or clothes, blankets etc can really help.
uglybett1@reddit
bullshit excuse to not do something you didn't want to do anyway. don't say the charities say it, just say what you truly believe
kawaiiyokaisenpai@reddit
No charity has ever said this to me. People just want an excuse not to hand over their money. Such greed. The same people who wont even talk to the homeless.
IzzyBella95@reddit
Yeh "Don't give the homeless money, give it to us and we will make sure they get the small percentage we are legally required to give, to maintain charity status."
SiteRelevant98@reddit
the charities that take all the money and pay their managers. Did you know that homeless youths pay YMCA charities extortionate amounts in rent my local Milton house charged over 180 per week rent 15 years ago when a full week on minimum wage got me around 280 factor your bills into that and tell me who is a charity. Anyone who has been through the system knows half the charities are scams. If you give money to a homeless person they may buy drugs but they may buy food if you have any to spare you should share because one day your chips might be down and if your selfish you won't deserve peoples care. We can all hit rock bottom now matter how high in the chain you are and the charities care about themselves not sure how you get upvoted for not caring about the poor but then again I have had comments taken down for speaking up for the poor. Meanwhile encouraging dismissal of the homeless is fine? They are people
Dawuuud@reddit
Please give one example of a homeless charity saying not to give money to homeless people - surely a myth to justify feelings of guilt - no?
chrisodeljacko@reddit
What? Shouldn't I be videoing myself giving money to the homeless then posting it to TikTok?
theoldsnitcheroo@reddit
I’ve worked for charities in homeless hostels and I give money to homeless people. It’s not like if no one gave them money they’d stop being homeless.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
They also report them to the home office.
Missbhavin58@reddit
Does the home office help homeless people now??
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
No, they deport them them if they possibly can.
Missbhavin58@reddit
This is non uk homeless. Not local ones
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Oh, that makes it ok then /s
rocc_high_racks@reddit
Of course it does. This is how visa rules work literally everywhere.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
So, these homeless people can’t approach a charity for help, as they risk deportation, and the charities state we should not give cash donations to them. So in that case, the only option left open to them is crime or starvation. Sounds like a well thought out plan. Even Liberty agree it’s fucking stupid.
rocc_high_racks@reddit
Frankly that's a risk they chose to accept when they immigrated illegally.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Ok Nigel.
rocc_high_racks@reddit
Same generic, low energy response you gave to everyone else that pointed out that your position doesn't have a legal leg to stand on?
poopoopoopoooooo@reddit
And yours doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on. I know who I’d rather be.
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Yes it does
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Yes of course it does, because homeless people who are foreign are sub human and don’t deserve charity /s
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
No, because money pots are not endless and as a small island our money pot can not fund whoever decides they want to use it from around the world.
It’s completely reasonable to expect people who have gone abroad to support themselves in that new country.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Yes, we should leave them to die of hunger in the street for being so irresponsible, we certainly shouldn’t be giving them cash donations out of kindness, whatever next /s
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
No, we should deport them to their home countries so the tax payers in those countries can support them.
Giving cash donations would frankly be ridiculous. The majority of people who are long term street homeless aren’t there through bad luck.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Yes, we should show them no humanity or kindness. Kindness is weakness /s
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Maybe you can live with yourself knowing your cash caused someone to die, whatever their poison may be, but I can’t.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Did they choke on their sandwich or something?
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
In London 83% of homeless people used drugs in the last month, 50% use heroine. Drug use isn’t exactly known for being safe.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
In Bristol 100% of homeless people eat food. Starvation is pretty unhealthy too. Which heroine are they using specifically?
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
This is ridiculous. If they are hungry give them food. But they don’t want food, every-time i gave food they get aggressive so I stopped. Money only.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
They can almost certainly sense the contempt you hold them in, or they are not hungry. I have no problem giving homeless people food, I ask what they want, and then buy it for them. Everybody is happy.
Unlucky-Jello-5660@reddit
I mean why should the UK be funding homeless people from other nations? They aren't positive contributors to our society.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
The point was raised that charities state we should not give homeless cash donations, yet if they approach a charity they risk deportation, so out of humanity, if you have any left, give homeless people cash and ignore the charities.
Unlucky-Jello-5660@reddit
Seems very inefficient
solnyshka@reddit
I mean. Unironically yes.
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
Ok Nigel.
Missbhavin58@reddit
I don't understand your question
EpicFishFingers@reddit
Probably because they made a statement and not a question (had to be done, sorry!)
_Maid3n_3ngland_@reddit
Deport them?... Not every homeless person is from another country!! Haha
EpicFishFingers@reddit
They deport them anyway
They're the Home Office, not the homeless office!
_Maid3n_3ngland_@reddit
That doesn't make sense tbh.. If they can't deport people from another country then why would they deport our own for?
EpicFishFingers@reddit
I was joking, it's news to me that the home office deport homeless illegal immigrants
Idk who I thought would do it... foreign office maybe
YellowSubmarooned@reddit
They only deport the foreign ones.
Next-Project-1450@reddit
Quite a while ago now, I was on my way home late one evening and went to get something to eat from a takeaway place. And I'd had a drink, so maybe that had mellowed me.
Some guy outside the shop asked me if I had any change, so I gave him £1 (at the time in question, that would have nearly bought something).
He took it and ran as fast as he could to the nearest pub about 200 metres away (which was about to close - they closed at 11pm at the time).
I'd never hand over cash again. Maybe food. Maybe. But as much as I'd like to, that experience showed me they aren't just after a crust, but trying to fund something that in a lot of cases (not all, I know) is at least partly why they are begging.
And the charities know a lot more than I do.
TrashbatLondon@reddit
This is absolutely not true. Please do not believe this nonsense.
AMthe0NE@reddit
If someone needs some alcohol/drugs to make sleeping on the street more bearable, then they can have my money for it.
Ahouser007@reddit
Poor is solved by money, somebody saying something different is a dick. Money always gives you options.
yourlocallidl@reddit
Why is it their business?
pullingteeths@reddit
No they don't. They might say it's more effective to give to a charity but that doesn't mean it's wrong to give a struggling person some money to make their day a bit easier. It's ok to not give them money you don't have to make up fake reasons to justify it.
Kooky-Ad-4322@reddit
Which charities? I couldn’t find anything online which says don’t give money to homeless people
pappyon@reddit
I wonder who they say you should give your money to instead.
TooStonedForAName@reddit
Which charities and where do they say that?
therealhairykrishna@reddit
I have heard that advice before. Why though?
jpepsred@reddit
99% of homeless people aren’t beggars. They go to the charities that are there to help people get on their feet and they get back on their feet. The 1% who beg are addicts or part of a gang which probably also runs brothels and people trafficking operations. Giving money to the second type is definitely harmful. The money isn’t going to them, it’s going to the leaders of the gang
therealhairykrishna@reddit
I'm dubious of your 99 percent figure. I fully accept that most are addicts.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Being an addict isnt ideal. But whats the direction of causality here?
After a while living in the streets im sure id lose hope and just want a moment or two of escapism too. It’s rich to deny people that from high horse without being to offer them an alternative
therealhairykrishna@reddit
I don't disagree. I think the whole "they'll spend it on drugs" as a reason not to give them money is tricky. I think they'll be forced to get the money for drugs in other ways, not give up drugs.
Slag13@reddit
Actually the addiction comes after becoming homeless for a good percentage.
Slag13@reddit
You are ill informed
No_Arugula7027@reddit
Otherwise they might be out of a job, is that it?
rustynoodle3891@reddit
I knew a homeless fella who had a dog and he used to beg. He explicitly said to us don't give money to homeless people, especially if they have a dog.
He stayed with us on occasion, was a really nice bloke, just through me off when he said that!
antebyotiks@reddit
They say give to charities instead don't they, so slightly different
Floral-Prancer@reddit
The charity I volunteer with do not do this and increases the risk of harm to the community with hostile environment regarding money and homelessness.
The charities that often advocate that aren't in the realm of harm reduction or reintegration to society but to paternalism towards people they deem unfit to make their own decisions.
Dizzy_Werewolf1215@reddit
That is because they usually just buy booze or drugs with it is it not?
glasgowgeg@reddit
Probably because the charity employee wages are paid from donations.
Muted-Reaction-2752@reddit
No, most of them are begging outside shops only because they’ve already been banned for shoplifting from them. I don’t think they’re actually homeless as such anyway as there’s a nice halfway house nearby (but you have to be clean to be given a room there).
Purple-Salamander-33@reddit
“Reddit just attracts the bottom feeders who want an excuse to spew hate” That was you no?
Firm-Detail-9140@reddit
Never. Frankly, fed up of every time I get on a train I've gotta listen to someone reeling off the same story about how they're ex military and need money for a hostel for the night.
I give to charity but I never give directly to homeless people.
Intruder313@reddit
There was a guy who ‘just needed 50p for train’ seemingly stuck in town for many weeks. He even once tried it on with me at the other end of town the same day - ‘just needing 50p for the bus’. I just said ‘liar’. He was back at the train station the next day.
clownexpresslol@reddit
Mateeee, years ago I had a woman approach me frantically begging for money for bus fare to see her daughter in hospital. I gave her £3, which was more than enough at the time, then she went on her way. 2 hours later, I walked through the exact same area and I saw the same woman trying it on an old couple. Like wtf.
Howzitgoanin@reddit
I used to live in Greenwich, London. A guy approached me saying his car had broken down and needed money for the bus. He actually seemed legit and didn’t look like a beggar but I had doubts so said I had no cash.
A few years later I went back to Greenwich and the same guy approached me. This time he up’d his game - he had car keys and an Oyster card to back up his story. I just laughed and walked away.
WantsToDieBadly@reddit
i have the same on a town near me, for the past year i've encountered the guy 4 times and the story is a variation of 'i need x amount for the hostel' but it has changes every time
Marscracks@reddit
Was this in Liverpool?
EllieCakes_@reddit
By charity, do you mean a large charity or a smaller charity like a local shelter.
Cause one is paying some ceo's wage and one is actually helpful
uglybett1@reddit
you're disgusting honestly
Ayyyyylmaos@reddit
Hey mate, don’t mean to be the fuckin… charity police, but non-profits are better to donate to, as charities are still profitable businesses, and take a % of every donation for profit
oldtrack@reddit
although i admittedly don’t give to the homeless very often i would never give money to someone who begs aggressively by giving speeches, such a dick move
PatrickStardawg@reddit
Yea that one something that I didn't know happened til I moved to London and a group of squatters decided to do a whole show for donations and passed around a manky hat for us to donate to
tobiasjenieve@reddit
999/1000* are homeless by lifestyle choice, or not homeless at all. I won't take the risk in supporting this type of individual, sadly this means I also won't ever be helping the 0.1% genuinely in need.
pullingteeths@reddit
So you've invented ridiculous stats in your head to justify it to yourself? It's ok to just not give you're not obligated to.
tobiasjenieve@reddit
I 'invented' a percentile that gives an overall approximation of my feeling/opinion, and marked it with an asterix as I know it to be inaccurate... I work with those without homes and the real statistic is impossible to know. The number helps others to quantify my view, and reinforces my opinion. That's all.
pullingteeths@reddit
Your "feelings" about things that are a matter of statistical fact are useless
tobiasjenieve@reddit
Well aren't you pleasant. There are no factual statistics, we can't get inside everybody's head. But if you have said numbers, and believe them, then live by them. I shall keep my own opinion and the accompanying feelings, whether you think them useless or otherwise.
pullingteeths@reddit
So you make up extreme ones to justify negative judgement of homeless people
tobiasjenieve@reddit
The vast majority* of people without homes.
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
No. I’ll buy them a coffee or a sausage roll or whatever but one of my brothers is an addict and giving money doesn’t really help
No_Temporary8344@reddit
Some homeless people are not addicts. I’m shocked by how many of these responses assume addictions.
It’s just not so.
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
Where I live the street homeless are. As I’ve already said we have a hidden homeless population with folk sofa surfing or living in vans and caravans but the rough sleeping population here have issues with substances.
No_Temporary8344@reddit
You don’t know that. I assure you that there are a lot of other reasons for homelessness. Battered women who can’t get into a shelter. Mentally ill people. Hurricanes. Etc. etc. etc.
If you want to keep telling yourself that they’re all homeless because they’re addicts, I can’t stop you. But it isn’t true. So many other reasons.
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
Babe, my community is around 700 people. I’m blood or marriage related to a whole fucking lot of them. I get what you’re saying in big cities but in tiny rural communities like mine you know each other. You know their cousins and their grannies and who they lost their virginity to.
ScroobiusPup@reddit
A few months ago the guy who sits outside my local Greggs asked me if I could buy him something- I said no worries and asked what he wanted. Bought him a steak bake (which he asked for) and got a thank you very much.
Turned round when I was about 50ft away to see him chucking it straight in the bin next to him. Not sure why he asked for it in the first place...
Extreme-Football8335@reddit
I did that once and now I see the guy all the time and get him drinks and food and food for his dog lol
ChampionshipOk5046@reddit
Guy I knew used to keep his dog scrawny so he'd get more booze money
lotus49@reddit
And how do you know that he had a choice about it?
ChampionshipOk5046@reddit
He told me
lotus49@reddit
Fair enough.
20127010603170562316@reddit
That's grim.
You don't even have to feed a dog that much to keep them a healthy weight. Dogs always want more, but a scrawny dog is constantly starving legitimately.
EpicFishFingers@reddit
Imagine the devastation of discovering that he's also throwing it all in the bin once you're out of sight 😂
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
I mean it’s greggs. I’d have to be starved a week to eat that shite. We don’t have many of them in the highlands and none where I live coz McLeans out prices and outclasses them coz it’s dog shit.
weregonnamakit@reddit
Maybe it was the empty packet?
weregonnamakit@reddit
Maybe it was the empty packet?
Andagonism@reddit
Homeless people are paranoid about opened food, as people could have spat on it, or put something in it.
You also shouldnt give them money, in case they use it for alcohol.
There is also the possibility, they are not homeless but dressing up, pretending to be.
pajamakitten@reddit
But he asked for food they would have known would be opened to begin with. They could not have been that paranoid.
Andagonism@reddit
Think he was hoping for say, a wrapped up sandwich. But you are right, I dont get why he would ask either...... Unless he was vegan/vegetarian lol
ScroobiusPup@reddit
He specifically asked for a steak bake though. I'd have happily bought a sandwich if he asked for that.
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
It was a greggs, it was probably cat food inside lol.
With my brother he asks for money for food or the bus or a taxi etc but it’s not. It’s just for crack and street vallies. He gets annoyed when I order him a pizza or put money on his electric if he phones rather than give him the money.
PatrickStardawg@reddit
Hope he gets the help he needs I'm a recovering smack and calls addict and it's so difficult. Good on you for helping where you can
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
He’s forty mate. I’d love to be proved wrong but he’s done nineteen rehabs and just cannot stay off it. A lot of it is lifestyle related. He’s dyslexic to almost illiteracy so he didn’t do well in education so struggled to hold long term employment. Ended up working for dealers then down the road on the gear himself with some shady people he just can’t stay away from. I’d love to have him in my house without hiding my kids piggy banks or games consoles and phones, I’d love to be able to take my kids to his and not worry about who is there or what they might find there. I love my brother. I cannot stand the person he becomes when the drugs take over.
St00f4h1221@reddit
And Good for you my man for kicking it!
Willr2645@reddit
It looks like you made a misteak.
Or maybe the steaks were too high?
GREENK87@reddit
Call bullshit
Electrical-Leave4787@reddit
He asked to be seen by other people as “asking for money for food only”. I don’t give money, but used to go out ‘all the time’, all over London city and the boroughs with lots of toiletries, underwear, clothing items, food, dog food, etc for them. Those orange ‘hand warmer’ 10+ sachets hikers use. I’d advise them to put them on their midriff area, not their hands. It’s foolish thing trying to foster them, tbh.
What we need to do is work on preventing this situation in the first place. To tackle drugs, booze and gambling. To find out how people get into those situations and focus our energy on eliminating them.
I used to spend my own money doing this. I’d give them organic snacks from Holland & Barrett.
MeanCustardCreme@reddit
It's because asking for food is the "opener". If you have the money, it's difficult to turn somebody down who is asking for food, and of course it gives the passer by the impression that they are "genuine". Reality is that a lot of the time asking for food is a tool to get cash, particularly once people have let their guard down.
AvatarIII@reddit
Maybe it's a long con, he asks for food this time and is grateful, next time you're a bit more trusting and just give him cash, knowing he was happy with food last time.
Why he would actually waste free food is beyond me though. I can afford my own Greggs but if someone gave me a free steak bake I'd still eat it.
Happy_Trip6058@reddit
That’s a liberty my friend. What a prick.
FiveFruitADay@reddit
I'll offer to buy them a coffee and if I'm not in a rush then we'll sometimes have a chat. I usually offer women any tampons or pads if I have any extra on me
HamFistedTallyrand@reddit
Well I certainly hope you're a female!
imissbreakingbad@reddit
Why?
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
Oh I don’t have to do that. We’ve got free sanitary products here and they’re in our public toilets and library and some of the supermarkets too. Bloody lifesaver when you’re perimenopausal too
Pen_dragons_pizza@reddit
Bought what I assumed was a refugee girl I see on the way to work most mornings a coffee, then started giving her a bit of money now and again and tried to give her a bit of convo, didn’t speak much English but was always thankful.
Just so happened to be out for the evening a town over from the city I live in and come across her in a bar, all dressed up.
She totally recognised me and as soon as she did, looked really sheepish and almost guilty looking.
Everything was a lie, even down to her not speaking English very well.
plantmic@reddit
So... did you?
throwmeinthettrash@reddit
That was clearly a joke, we not allowed a sense of humour now?
I laughed - as a former homeless woman
dkdkdkosep@reddit
not all homeless people are addicts
Agreeable_Fig_3713@reddit
They’re not but in my area the vast majority of ‘street homeless’ or as it would be termed ’rough sleepers’ are. Ones like my brother. We’ve got a hidden homeless population of people who sofa surf or live in vans or caravans while doing odd jobs or agricultural work (I’m in the north of Scotland) but predominantly our rough sleeping population have substance abuse issues.
The best way to help the hidden homeless we have in my neck of the woods is when they chap the door asking if you want a hedge cutting or gutters cleaning or grass cutting etc is to let them. Pay them and give them a cuppa and a peice and have a wee blether while they’re at it. Give your neighbour a wee chap and see if they’re wanting their wisteria cut back by the boy coz they’ve been moaning about it climbing the drop wire for weeks etc.
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
I can assure you, as a former addict, not having money doesn’t stop the addiction.
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Tiggy_67@reddit
Do I hell!!
BumArse321@reddit
Nah, it'll just go to drug dealers, who fund illegal arms dealers and who manipulate and exploit vulnerable people, including women and children, directly contributing to poverty and a further fractured society.
Sober_Runner_111@reddit
No. I volunteer at and donate to food banks and homeless shelters.
Important-Constant25@reddit
Nah, because its not just once is it? I work here so I see the same one's everyday. So now you just have an extra subscription service out of guilt? Fuck that shit I'm fucking homeless as well and I'm not gonna be any closer to finding a home by giving away every spare penny! 🤣
Personalpriv78@reddit
I do sometimes. Gave a fiver a couple weeks ago few quid week before, and a couple weeks before that now I ain’t giving any for a while.
Who knows if it’s the right thing to do no one does gonna be a case by case scenario probably.
Additional_Apple5837@reddit
I did once, at the door of my local supermarket - £20 note!.
The following week they were there again. 2nd time I said no, and they had the cheek to ask why - so I told them "I gave you quite a substantial amount of money last week and it clearly didn't help your situation. I suggest you try something other than begging" - Then they attacked me.
So no, I don't give money to homeless... And before anyone tries to judge me, I've been homeless so I do understand exactly what it's like.
Historical_Bug1062@reddit
Yes, they are human, they are struggling more than we will ever know. Do something out of the normal, be kind and give.
DarthKrataa@reddit
I used to.
I don't now and i have some pretty solid reasons i think.
First thing was once i have a homeless guy £20 at Christmas because he was sitting in the pissing rain late a night. Next week am on the bus, recognised him and he's sitting with his mate talking about how he's been onto the council about getting moved to a new flat because his neighbour is a twat, then his mate asks him if he's still making good money on the streets. Basically this was like a job for this guy he wasn't even homeless.
Now you might say "ahhht thats just one example though" yeah your probably right but....
My £20 probably went on some kind of vice, the other issue is that it encourages more people to do it, more sit on the street begging. So the practice of giving them money starts to have some pretty bad social impacts, it could be getting fed into criminal enterprise and it encourages the practice of begging on the streets.
Really i just wanted the guy to go get a nice bit of food somewhere, so actually what a better use of my money is to donate to a soup kitchen. I give money to the homeless now indirectly through a monthly direct debit.
SlightProgrammer@reddit
all the ones round me are professional beggars who swap shifts and have homes
Extreme-Football8335@reddit
I can’t believe there are so called professionals at this!
itsableeder@reddit
This is something I've been hearing for decades and I've never actually seen any evidence of it
AberNurse@reddit
When I was in school in the 90s everyone knew someone who had seen the local big issue seller driving a merc. I’ve never seen any evidence of professional beggars. But as a nurse I’ve seen lots of evidence of the shit that people I’ve seen living rough and begging are going through
itsableeder@reddit
Yeah I've volunteered in soup kitchens and day centres off and on over the years and seen a lot of real suffering. Funnily enough you see the same faces in there as you see on the streets, which would be an impressive level of commitment to the bit if they were actually faking it.
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Can you define "professional beggar"?
I ask, because I've responded to several on here that claim there is no such thing
itsableeder@reddit
Did you reply to the wrong person? I've never claimed I've seen any "professional beggars". Literally my post above this one says "this is something I've been hearing for decades and I've never actually seen any evidence of it". The post you're replying to is also saying that I've worked with homeless people and I believe them to be genuine.
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
No, replied to the right one. I thought you were suggesting there are no professional beggars.
I wasn't picking a fight, at all.
It was whilst typing I thought I may need to revise my definition of professional beggar.
I've come across many.
itsableeder@reddit
Well, I'm saying I've never seen any and that all of the beggars I've worked alongside over the years have been genuine, yeah.
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Professional is a term that sounds too grand, though is perfectly accurate. We'd have to define professional.
I've known "professional" beggars,.in the way I assume the term to mean
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Plenty of them.
From personal experience.
cari-strat@reddit
Yeah it was common by me for a while. The shopkeepers would actually come out and say "Don't give him anything, he's lying, he's got a flat in x-street!"
There were quite a few of them but as we're a fairly small community, begging so close to home backfired, they were recognised, word quickly got about and they moved on to pastures new.
kopeikin432@reddit
in central London it's pretty easy to find a bunch of them with the same signs, same handwriting and everything
LurkerInSpace@reddit
On some level it's just saying the right words to get money for nothing, so there is always an incentive for fakes to try their hand at it.
And in general someone who has had a good night's sleep and doesn't suffer serious health problems (like addiction) will be in a better position to get money than someone who really is homeless.
Hyper5Focus@reddit
There are a few documentaries done about this, but most of them aren’t English. These focus mostly on large cities such as London where they have it down to a precise business and most beggars report earnings of 200-400£ per day.
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HamFistedTallyrand@reddit
Have some friends who are coppers and they know the local ones and move them on constantly. They do exist. I suppose if you want evidence you'd have to follow one home.
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
There 100% are.
keg994@reddit
There was a guy I used to see all the time sat with his shar pei. We'd buy him food and his dog some treats then one day I saw him walking past my work with wearing designer clothes/shoes playing on his iPhone. Pissed me off
Chordsy@reddit
Some where I work literally have the same sign down to the same rips and tears. Kneel in the street and physically beg, hands together and everything trying to get your attention.
Someone literally stopped me in the street once and asked me to get a tenner out of the atm. Had a rogue fiver in my wallet, gave him that to get him off my case and he got really fucking shitty with me.
Then there was one young guy just sitting outside greggs minding his own with his dog. I stopped to talk to him about the book because I'd read it and it was a favourite. I asked him if he wanted a sandwich or something from greggs and he almost cried. Grabbed him a cold drink, sandwich, crisps and a doughnut for us both, a couple of sausage rolls for his pooch and we chilled on a bench just talking for 30 minutes. Just fell on hard times, no addictions, just lost job and house and spare change was spent on food and charity shop book finds. I was only visiting for the weekend sadly so never saw him again I hope he got back on his feet.
rumade@reddit
Was finishing some fries outside a pub in Soho a few weeks ago when a guy came up and asked for money. I said I don't carry cash (which is true generally), and offered him the fries. He called them trash and then asked for a bank transfer!
WantsToDieBadly@reddit
i've had a homeless guy ask me for a bank transfer it was so jarring, next they'll start having card mschines
punekar_2018@reddit
Wait until they ask you for bitcoin
GiftOdd3120@reddit
Sime already have them
Emotional-Web9064@reddit
They do in Soho!
Serafita@reddit
They're gonna copy the beggars overseas like in China and have QR codes so you'll have no excuse short of just saying you got even less money than them haha
lemon-fizz@reddit
My friends cousin does this. He’s got a council flat and benefits but he’ll sit outside fucking Tesco begging all day.
plantmic@reddit
One of them drives a beemer
JT_3K@reddit
Huddersfield Sainsburys. They share a dog and a guitar, and swap every so often, asking each other how they’ve got on.
Used to commute in to our London office every Friday, and the site just up from the station (Euston?) was “managed”. One of my colleagues saw a new Range Rover stop outside and well dressed people remove the legitimate homeless, placing their own (from the back of the Range Rover) there, threatening the original guy. They were busted and were raking in over £2k per hour.
tcpukl@reddit
Near me they get the bus to our village because we're better off. They literally commute in.
aredditusername69@reddit
I work on New Oxford Street and usually get the train to Bond Street and walk. You see all the pros having their coffee and fags outside pret at 7am before moving on to Oxford Street at 9 to start their begging shift. Hate it so much.
Ambry@reddit
There's a bunch of them in the centre of Bristol, with very similar signs, sitting in the same spots.
I've seen the exact same people literally throwing parties with tonnes of food, all wearing nice clothes, in the park near my flat.
WarmTransportation35@reddit
I see people holding the sign saying "I am hungry" which I think how they have not been given the direction to a soup kitchen or religious place who serve food indiscrimitarily.
Intruder313@reddit
Some in the city I see have a dog they share like any other prop.
St00f4h1221@reddit
Yep. There’s 4 of them in Liverpool who all have exactly the same sign. Seen them arrive in a car in the morning then get back into the same car in the eve
arfski@reddit
I used to live right in a town centre, and the local "homeless" would gather in the Market square on an evening when the shops were shut, discuss takings for the day, use their mobiles to organise taxis and what booze to bring up home and if anyone wanted a takeaway.
Bownzinho@reddit
Same here. I’m not going to give them money cos they used to hang around where I worked, pestered people endlessly before stealing from us and selling it all at the local pub before going home afterwards.
Starlinkukbeta@reddit
No. I give to the local charities that support them.
Substantial_Home_931@reddit
Idk if you’ve heard of Crisis but they’re a great charity. They helped me when I was homeless and also with my confidence building and with uni financial stuff once I was housed
EllieCakes_@reddit
The problem with large organisations that claim to be charity, is that they are a business. A lof of donation money doesn't go to the cause, but paying some ceo a huge salary.
Meanwhile the smaller, local charities actively struggle, help people all year round, even xmas day and nobody gets paid there.
I'm not saying these large organisations don't help people, but that some of your money isnt going towards helping
DullPhrase7571@reddit
Thanks for this! I've always wondered about whether they're worth supporting. May I ask (if you have a chance to answer), what did they do to help you?
Substantial_Home_931@reddit
They’re a great charity ! Unfortunately the local one where I used to live got shut down due to lack of funding I assume. They do many things, they even helped people to access bikes and taught them how to maintain them. They do all sorts of classes too, I did a “renting ready” course which gave me priority council house banding and taught me my rights and responsibilities as a tenant. I did a confidence building and budgeting course with one of the staff members, who also provided 1 to 1 practical and emotional support. She continued to meet me after I had my own place, and then I had another worker who helped me with looking into a maintenance loan for uni and having assistance for DSA. They also did weekly cooking classes which I didn’t go to personally, but the weekly arts and craft sessions were brilliant. I’ll be honest the crisis worker I saw once a week, helped me way more than the 24/7 staff at the hostel when I lived there for 9 months
EllieCakes_@reddit
This is a good way of doing it. Thank you
wr0ng1@reddit
Same. Who gets money shouldn't be based on who finds the best spot. Some homeless people are too physically or mentally unwell to get to a prime begging spot.
20 quid a month to a charity has a chance of benefitting way more people.
Effective_Horror_972@reddit
https://youtu.be/Qm6kl17HH9s?si=ZtlY436vVTiMjZkI
Rtaway999@reddit
Well, speaking from experience - I was actually homeless. Genuinely homeless with no place to go. I spoke to numerous charities and was actually told once "A single male with no dependants? Honestly we have nothing to help you with at the moment".
Since that moment, I've been involved with numerous "homeless charities" and the majority are amazing - lots of places open to help etc.
What a lot of "normal" people don't realise about these places or the situation of homeless people is that they are scary. It's not a society that most people can understand. People are exploited and used by OTHER homeless people. Maybe you have to hold something for someone, maybe they want you to steal something, maybe they give you some food but then you "owe" them. These people go to the same shelters, the same food banks and the same "help" that they expect you to. You can't go and tell on them. Check the waiting times for accommodation.
Some people begging aren't really homeless. Sometimes money you will give will go on drugs. Sometimes the people begging really do have no other option.
Keeping in mind my own personal experience, I have to walk past and judge. If I have £2 in my pocket and a guy has been sitting to 6 hours in the rain with holes in his shoes and a backpack nearby then yeah - that £2 is going in the cup.
Until real help exists at the complete trench level then I always will. Most people won't understand and frankly, until they live it I don't expect them to.
EllieCakes_@reddit
Jeez the complete lack of compasion is insane
EllieCakes_@reddit
No... I am pretty poor and can barely afford my own food but I volunteer at two different homeless kitchens.
It is hard, homeless people need money to eat but if you have issue giving money due, buy them some food/drink if you still want to help. Some won't be greatful for this, but most will be incredibly receptive and appreciative.
These aren't bad people, they're just like the rest of us.. genuinely, could be your future if a couple things go wrong.
humaninspector@reddit
No matter what, and no matter how little, always give what you can to those less fortunate than you. Even if its a smile and a couple of quid, thats something.
RideForRuin@reddit
Is it crazy that I only give to those that don’t ask?
Fluffy_Cantaloupe_18@reddit
Nope, the majority have the same sob story, almost script like.
NoswadtheInpaler@reddit
Not anymore. In the UK they get the same benefits as others. In my area there are places that give the hot meals and another that gives them a bag of food everyday. They are housed in hostels if they need a roof and bed for the night until the council find them a flat to live in paid for by housing.
They get the help if they want it so staying on the streets is a choice now. They do take the piss when they are sorted with a home and benefits by still going for all the free food and services plus begging on top. I know several supposedly homeless folk from going in warm hubs in winter as can't afford heating now. I've seen them fight over good spots for begging and they admit to taking £200 plus food and drink home a day. The cheeky B's even try and scrounge bus fare money to get home. They do all the above simply to stay in the same "wo is me" attitude and drugs and drink routine. These so called homeless took over the local charity cafe where mental health sufferers and learning disabilities used to socialise and get help if needed. They forced them all out and used some for extra money till the place closed down because of course these "homeless" wouldn't buy any of the cheap meals to keep the place running.
They really don't need your money or sympathy. The services are there for them. It is the sick, old and normal working families that are struggling with almost no help.
SleepFlower80@reddit
Nope, never. Last time I did, he looked in my purse as I fished out £3 for him, and then said, “can I have the other fiver in there as well?”. It pissed me off so now I don’t give anyone anything.
punekar_2018@reddit
Capitalist mindset, I tell ya
suiluhthrown78@reddit
They probably needed it, that fiver is like 20 minutes of a shift for you, for them its another day of survival in a society that has abandoned them
Ambry@reddit
Ove honestly become really freaked out by aggressive homeless People coming up to me in Bristol (walking alone at night).
One was outside Tesco shouting 'EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!' whilst I had headphones in. Fuck off, honestly. Don't shout at people. Anything anyone gives you is charity, don't be so entitled.
I'm just done giving them money to be honest as I see the same homeless people in the city centre constantly and they are regularly completely strung out on god knows what, so I assume the money will just go on drugs.
Ambry@reddit
Ove honestly become really freaked out by aggressive homeless People coming up to me in Bristol (walking alone at night).
One was outside Tesco shouting 'EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!' whilst I had headphones in. Fuck off, honestly. Don't shout at people. Anything anyone gives you is charity, don't be so entitled.
I'm just done giving them money to be honest as I see the same homeless people in the city centre constantly and they are regularly completely strung out on god knows what, so I assume the money will just go on drugs.
HeatheryLeathery@reddit
Once my friend gave a fiver and they asked if she'd swap it for a twenty. In some ways you gotta respect the gall.
Happy_Trip6058@reddit
Cheeky what? Ffs
txteva@reddit
Money, no. I have in the past brought a meal from a shop or a hot drink but not cash.
I'm often out without cash but honestly, even in the before times I didn't give cash.
I do regularly donate directly to the food bank and to the food collection in supermarkets.
echocardio@reddit
No. I’m a police officer and know all the local faces in my town centre. Almost none of them are actually homeless, and the ones that are, are rough sleeping due to either their prolific abuse of other homeless people resulting in them being asked to leave their last accommodation, or occasionally because the offered accommodation didn’t meet their standard and they wanted to be placed somewhere else.
This last is not presented with any judgement - some people are afraid of being preyed on by other residents or on behalf of dealers, some wait longer for dog friendly accommodation (or accommodation that can support their specific dogs behaviour) and usually is resolved once that placement comes up.
I’ve got a lot of sympathy for someone with no recourse to public funds, as they are completely reliant on charity. However they aren’t the ones who approach me in the market or sit with a sign on the pavement. Those - the ones we most think of when we think ‘homeless’ - are in my area at least entirely there due to substance abuse and seeking money to fund that substance abuse.
That does not make them undeserving of help, but it means direct donation does not assist in the same way that direct donation to those in poverty via GiveDirectly would, and so my money goes there instead.
Fast_Singer_8308@reddit
That’s really sweet of you to go back and give what you could! I think we all have those moments where we wish we could do more, but it’s all about what feels right in the moment. Sometimes I give money, sometimes I offer food, and other times I just have a quick chat. Every little bit helps, and the fact that you cared enough to go back shows a lot of heart.
zombiezmaj@reddit
I will give food but I don't give money. I see too many get up end of the day and walk to a better car than mine, not filled with stuff to indicate they even live in the car, using their key to get in and drive off.
Unfortunately that's made me suss of every person claiming to be homeless.
BoomerKaren666@reddit
There's an old saying that says, "There but for the grace of God, go I." I'm not even remotely religious but with a little bad luck and some poor judgement I could be holding the pan the wrong way and getting myself burned.
I don't have a large disposable income, but I can slip a few dollars to someone who needs it. Sometimes I don't have any cash on me but I don't make a trip back to give them some. I understand that some folks beg who don't need to, and I've heard the stories of beggers who go around the corner, get in a nicer car that I have and go home at the end of the day.
I'm ok with being wrong sometimes but most of the time I'm sure it was someone who needed the money more that I do. If they spend it on booze that's their business. I refuse to judge. I behave nicely and am not responsible for how anyone else chooses to behave. I am sure my few dollars have helped some people. What they do reflects on them, not me
I look at it as wearing a mask so as not to infect other people. It doesn't hurt me and it might help someone else.
xZxuko@reddit
I go off my instinct but mostly only give to elderly or women for safety reason. Not saying all homeless men are bad. I've had uncomfortable experiences growing up and even now as a grown woman.
I understand a high % are homeless due to unmedicated mental disorders and cope thru alcohol or drug use. Volatile emotions can easily lead to aggression so I take precautions
skybluepink77@reddit
You sound a really nice, humane person and imo, you did the right thing.
If we all gave to homeless charities, AND we gave to people we encounter in the street, who need a bit of compassion and human connection, we wouldn't have the enormous homeless problem that we do have.
I get the argument 'they'll only spend it on drugs.' Possibly, yes. But they might spend it on food, or a stay in a hostel. Better to give, I think, if you can spare the money. Let them make the choice as to how to spend it. Giving food directly - sandwiches, a Costa coffee - is good too.
The only ones I don't give to are the ones begging aggressively ie shouting, swearing at passers-by.
Prestigious_Dog_1942@reddit
I was watching a youtube interview with a homeless guy in Birmingham, he was saying how he averages £100-150 a day by asking for change
Doing the maths, that puts him at around 40k a year, untaxed
While that's obviously a best case scenario and not everyone is gonna be so fortunate, it does highlight how people aren't always homeless for lack of money, it's addiction that's the real issue
I'll always get someone a food or drink, but i'm uncomfortable helping fund an addiction
Thestickleman@reddit
Never
MachinegirlvsWolfgrl@reddit
No, I offer to buy a meal instead.
Spocks_Fat_Cock@reddit
Yes, but only if I approach them first or if someone asks for something to eat or drink.
If I’m approached and asked for money I say no.
Gungadin34@reddit
Yes, always.
I have made many mistakes in my life. If it wasn’t for the strong support network and privilege that surrounds me, I would be homeless. So I give them money, not a lot, but something. I don’t care what they spend it on. Once you have given someone money, it is their money not yours so you can’t control what they spend it on.
VickyAlberts@reddit
Yes, I do. And I don’t mind what they spend it on. This infantilising attitude of ‘’They might spend it on drugs’ really annoys me, as if the public suddenly gain the right to dictate every aspect of how someone else lives their life, just because they are currently homeless.
If I was in such a dire situation, I’m pretty sure I would self-medicate with drugs too.
TEFAlpha9@reddit
Hell no they are aggressive vultures round here so I've stopped giving a shit
o_sooperstar_o@reddit
No because the last person straight up insulted me by going into the corner shop and buying beer. Instead I will offer to buy them food or drink instead.
stevie842@reddit
I used to but come to realise that the man I gave money to was getting a lot more money a day than I earned a day. He sits outside the same busy supermarket 7 days a week from basically opening time to late in the afternoon with most passers by gifting him money… I know this for a fact as he’s there on my way to work and still there when I’m going home . I’ve got a family to feed .. bills to pay and a mortgage so what’s stopping him using the extra money to better himself and make something of his life while he hasn’t got nothing bills to pay out . Not saying he isn’t homeless and has problems getting a roof to live under but doesn’t even look like he’s trying. Would also like to add that I started offering to buy food for him but he was adamant he needed the money instead which just made me stop helping completely and it doesn’t help when you see him both a big bag of cans . Donate to shelters and food banks …. If people genuinely need help there’s nothing stopping them going to find it in the right places
knuraklo@reddit
I do but there are so many homeless people round here now, I haven't got enough for all of them :(
MsUncleare@reddit
Absolutely. And the amount of times I've been told "you shouldn't do that, they'll just spend it on booze." My answer is always... "that's exactly what I was going to spend it on."
TheocraticAtheist@reddit
My answer is, "They might not though"
Django-lango@reddit
Love that! Hate all the judgement around them using substances. I mean if I was in that situation then I'm grabbing me some mind altering substances
Embarrassed_Yak_5053@reddit
A homeless guy was playing a tin whistle really beautifully when I walked past him one evening when I was staying away with work and had been to a pub for a meal and a drink. He didn't ask for money.
I went and got some cash out and gave it to him. Had a chat with him, said I like the music, asked him what he'd spend the money on - he said whisky - I said fair enough as I'd just been in the pub spending the same on brandy. Can't judge someone for buying alcohol if I've just done the exact same thing.
Jebble@reddit
I've given money to a homeless person twice. Once in Amsterdam when the man came up to me and said "Hey, I really feel like a joint, can you spare some change?" So I gave him money and told him to enjoy. The second time was in London and the lady saw I had another fiver in my wallet and said "Can I have that one as well?" To which the answer was no
CalenElanor13@reddit
Bought a homeless guy a 4 pack once. Got chatting to him after watching a spice zombie try nd steal his rucksack. Came up in conversation that it was his birthday (showed me his licence and everything) and when I asked him if he wanted anything from the shop he said he was an alcoholic and honestly he just wanted a drink. Not gonna let a man go through withdrawals on his birthday!
WonderSilver6937@reddit
If I’m ever forced to sleep rough on the streets, I’m not doing it pissing sober.
pajamakitten@reddit
Not to mention that alcohol withdrawal can kill.
Boring_Loquat7037@reddit
My thoughts exactly!
AXX-100@reddit
Exactly 💯
MsUncleare@reddit
EXACTLY. I have a pint or 7 after a rough shift. Homelessness is the roughest, longest shift of all time.
Slag13@reddit
I THINK THIS THOUGHT PROCESS SHOULD BE AWARDED WITH GREAT RECOGNITION... Being cold, hungry and unsafe… there is absolutely no rest from the nights or the “inexperienced social spit” of the days either. It’s absolutely brutal beatings every single minute of every single day.
GuyGardner69@reddit
Haha, reminds me of Steve Hughes talking about giving money to the homeless in one of his stand up bits
Abby_JaackMaate@reddit
Because they stole it from that
dtudeski@reddit
Good on you. Some of the odd lil cunts in the comments here who seemingly take pride in not ever giving them money are so tiresome. I used to work for a homeless charity and I still give them money when I can.
MsUncleare@reddit
It's the weird, skewed view that homeless people should be held to higher standards than the average person that irks me.
imafuckinsausagehead@reddit
I agree, as long as I'm sure they're homeless I don't care what they spend it on, I'm an alcoholic, only difference is I'm not homeless and I know if I was I'd want it to numb how depressing it must be, none of my business what they spend it on
MsUncleare@reddit
And thats why thats always my answer. I live in a really affluent area and drinking is rife. Why is that not frowned upon, but someone genuinely trying to escape pain is?
CryptographerSmall32@reddit
You are a sad fucking sausage head 😢
ATSOAS87@reddit
I literally bought a homeless man booze once when I asked if he wanted anything. He probably wasn't expecting 4 bottles though.
Otherwise_Living_158@reddit
Bill Hicks: “Well drugs are pretty fucking important to a drug addict”
T33FMEISTER@reddit
Hell, that's a really good point! I used to have a local guy, outside Tesco. On Friday's Id buy him a full meal/food. I'd also give him a beer as I'd just spent a tenner on beers myself.
TheocraticAtheist@reddit
If I have change then yeah, all the time.
pjberlov@reddit
I used to in younger days, on principle. Unfortunately have had more than enough different individuals verbally abuse me for not giving them “enough”, have been followed down the street, nearly mugged etc etc. If I didn’t have any loose change on me at the time when asked, I’d normally offer to get some food (often rejected). Had one guy once after I said I didn’t have anything on me demand that I transfer him money to a bank account…
You come to a point in your life where you realise you simply just have to not make eye contact and keep walking purely for your own safety. I don’t really care what they do with the change. I just don’t want to be assaulted.
Big_Cheese16@reddit
I live in Cornwall. During COVID they housed every single homeless person in all the out of us holiday parks.
Seems like a lovely thing to do expect most of them moved back out and back to the streets when they discovered drugs and excessive alcohol consumption was not allowed on the sites.
Not all - but quite a lot of them are happy in their situation and do not want it to change.
fundytech@reddit
I used to buy them a meal, and I found most of the time they were so picky about what they want it was almost like they’re entitled. So I stopped. If you were really starving you’d lap up anything on offer. Also, the same beggars in my area have been around for years. Clearly not doing anything to help their own situation. I know I sound up my own arse but if you really really dont want to be in a hole you’ll find a way to crawl out of it. I don’t mean days or weeks or months, I mean I’ve been seeing the same people sat outside Tesco for years now.
ClaretNBlue@reddit
I've had this happen to me before even down to a specific brand of lemonade they liked as the other one tasted like ass or whatever he said lol. But whatever.. it was one of those few times I could actually give a little to someone worse off than me.
__Game__@reddit
No, because unfortunately there are too many that don't need money to find housing for that night, despite what they say. It's a horrible situation but there are a lot of semi professional beggers, along with people who could access the things they claim to be begging for. The amount of times a beggar turns down food for example is a bit of an eye opener.
MDL1983@reddit
There’s a homeless chap who I often see sat outside my local supermarket. I normally have a chat with him and ask him what I can get for him. It’s usually a hot chocolate or a milkshake lol.
CodTrumpsMackrel@reddit
Dont give money, feed them.
Wrong-Pizza-7184@reddit
A bloke came up to me in London and asked for a pound. " I promise I'll only spend it on alcohol". How could I resist a line like that?
baechesbebeachin@reddit
This might be bad, but I only give local-homeless people cash. Too many scammers from other cities and countries.
-Count-Olaf-@reddit
You're doing great for helping your local homeless people!
lotus49@reddit
Yes, I do. I don't always but it upsets me to see someone having fallen so low that they are homeless and begging in the street. I am fairly affluent and £5 means nothing to me but it's a meal to a homeless person.
I know that a lot of affluent people attribute their affluence entirely to their own hard work. I don't. I've been very fortunate and despite the fact that I am very well-paid, I really haven't had to work that hard for it. I'm lucky. Some people aren't. I like to do at least something to even that out.
jenniferschlong@reddit
It's either junkies or Romanian gypsies shaking cups and waving at people in my area. I give them heehaw
cari-strat@reddit
As a rule I don't, simply because we have an insane amount of fake beggars where I live, who are just trying to con people into handing over money and then going home to a nice flat and blowing it at the boozer.
I also rarely have actual cash on me. If I'm going into a shop I will offer to buy them something to eat or drink though.
PubCrisps@reddit
Never money but I'll ask them what they want from the supermarket.
Hunter-Ki11er@reddit
Money can buy drugs, food cannot
Street_sweep9@reddit
I give them nothing.
bettypgreen@reddit
Most of the time these people are not actually homeless
Boring-Tangerine-589@reddit
Yes. However, I do not donate to charities. Corrupt, self-serving sector. Personal experience of this on multiple occasions.
Cythreill@reddit
No, I ask them their name and what food they would like. I go into the supermarket, get them their sandwich and drink, and give it to them and say goodbye, using their name. I have never given them money.
In terms of money, I fundraise for Shelter/St Mungo's.
ballsosteele@reddit
I don't carry cash any more. If someone is outside a tesco asking for coin to get a butty, or starbucks for a coffee, or whatnot, I'll get them that.
The amount of people that say "no, I want the cash" or similar (even the "no, it's alright mate" when I'm already entering the shop) when I offer that blows my mind, though - I've been taken up on the offer just once.
giraffe_cake@reddit
No. I can barely afford to live myself. If I gave money to every homeless person who asked for it, I might as well be working for free.
I will buy them a meal deal if they're really desperate and hungry, but I am not paying for god knows what.
emerixxxx@reddit
No, would buy food or reload their phone for them. But never cash.
IReallyLoveNifflers@reddit
I never do because there are a lot of scammers in my city as it's very touristy. I have overheard people talking about swapping patches for better footfall, seen people switch out and get into a car. Awful behaviour.
LoveTravel0803@reddit
No, I give them food.
Django-lango@reddit
Not cos I need it just as much myself atm
pm_me_your_amphibian@reddit
No. For a start, do they take contactless or something these days because I don’t carry cash or my cards unless I have a very specific reason to have my wallet with me, which is maybe once every couple of months.
Also for all the reasons in this thread.
I have and would buy someone a hot drink or food in the cold weather though, although some of the stories in this thread are making me reconsider that too.
throwmeinthettrash@reddit
In the nicest way possible, not if they're asking for it. The vast majority of people begging on the streets are just beggars, homeless people don't tend (in my experience) to hound you down and ask you for cash in fact they're normally not trying to be in the middle of busy streets because a.) they get harassed by shitty teenagers and adults and b.) they're likely to be arrested.
9/10 times I've been approached/asked for money it's those annoying charity pushers or beggars.
Being desperate is much different to being a beggar to be clear.
Plane_Cry_1169@reddit
Only to old people that are trying to sell small stuff to make a living. I usually "buy" some of their stuff but leave it there so they can sell it again.
I used to give money to all kinds of people before, until I gave a pretty big sum to a young girl that really seemed in trouble. It was a few days before I was leaving to study abroad and I desperately needed the money as well, but I was impressed by her story. Even if I was really worried about going abroad with little money, I still felt like she needed it more than me.
I found out the next day that she was actually lying and was making fun of all the "idiots" who fell for her lie and helped her. That was the last time I helped a young person.
aycsdcfo@reddit
Yes i am broke myself but give what money i have, and clothes too.
runs_with_fools@reddit
I do. Sometimes I’ll get a hot drink and something to eat for them, but having worked in a shelter I now prefer to give them autonomy to use it for what they need. So what if it’s alcohol or drugs. They’re coping with living on the streets, I bet most of us would probably use some kind of substance to warm us up/takeaway the pain/forget how shit life is.
uglybett1@reddit
yes whatever i have i give. it's disgusting how many people think it's okay to not give directly to the people in need and believe it's a more dignified practice to give through a third party. it shows how disconnected we are from one another. i hope everyone who says no reflects on the austerity approaching us in the UK & sees that we are not far from the position of the homeless. we need to have each other's backs. you're not any more special or more amazing than a homeless person you're just lucky and in a better position (for now)
DigLow5178@reddit
Do they have chip and pin? Don't carry cash
delicious_angel@reddit
I buy them food. Usually I’d ask them to follow my into mcd, pret, wasabi/ wtv is around. The genuine ones will accept my offer and follow me in. I find that they’ll order simple food / usually the cheapest option and ask for permission if they wanted to top up their drink (ie from soda to coffee).
I’d then ask if they needed anything else. Usually it’d be articles of clothing like socks or shoes. If it’s within my normal route and they’re normally there, I’d purchase these clothes myself and ‘drop it off’ the next time I see them. If not, I’ll estimate the cost of these items and give them some money.
When I encounter what I think are genuine needs like that, I’m happy to give. Sure, I may be scammed but I’d like to think that even if I’m scammed, at least I did one good deed and it’s not on me, it’s on them. Karma works that way, not something I’m looking for but I’m sure will hit them if they’re not genuine.
Either way, I’m not out of pocket because of it and it’s better to be positive instead of skeptical.
delicious_angel@reddit
Wow I just read how many people have encountered homeless people chucking food they ask for in the bin thus making it a long con cos people trust them a bit more if they accept food……. I guess, yes I fall in this category.
Butttt they difference for me would be that I bring them into the restaurant. And I do see them gobbling down the food. Restaurants have asked them to please leave thinking that they’re in there to beg but I then tell them he’s with me and a customer. I do so to enable them to at least get some warmth and to use the washroom should they need to.
suckmyclitplss@reddit
When I’m back home (overseas) yes. In the UK no.
yourefunny@reddit
I have always given money to homeless people. I recall my wonderful Irish mother have a massive argument with a gay couple who were horrible to a homeless guy outside a theatre. My mum has seem some shit over the years being a nurse who worked in many countries around the world.
She told me that even if the homeless person goes and buys some booze or drugs if doesn't matter to her. It gives him or her the ability to escape their life and feel good.
I have changed it to grab a bag of food and drinks from a nearby shop.in recent years.
beanschungus@reddit
I don't, and I feel bad about it.
My sister works in the homeless sector in our city and I stopped buying food and giving change to the homeless when she told me most of them have homes and help available, but prefer to live their own lives on the streets. Not all, but most.
I give to charity in other ways, I buy all my clothes from charity shops, whenever my friends or family do fundraisers, I donate a generous amount. Unwanted clothes and furniture go to charities, never the bin.
Me and my boyfriend are currently abroad in a poorer country. We were approached by a guy just yesterday, he was first asking for money, and then for food for his family. We didn't have any cash, card, or food on us, so said sorry but no. He was quite insistent, and to be honest we would have if we could have, but when we explained no, he started insulting my boyfriend calling him greedy fat man, he isn't even fat.
You never know who you are giving to, I really think it's best to donate to homeless charities instead. Though it doesn't make saying no to a human being any easier.
mattyMbruh@reddit
I’ve bought food for them but never outright given them money
Connect_Boss6316@reddit
There's a youtube channel of a guy exposing begging gangs. I forget the name. Many people are genuinely homeless and in need of help, but there's a dark underbelly to this industry too.
I live mostly abroad in developing countries, and I give money every day to the many many genuinely in need people I see on the streets.
queen_of_potato@reddit
I don't give money because I very rarely have cash, but if I'm not in a rush I'll always ask if I can get them something from a nearby shop
Cottonsocks434@reddit
In the past, I wouldn't ever give money and I'd ignore them too. But after going through some pretty rough mental health crap, I absolutely give whenever I can. If I have cash, I'll give it. If I don't, I'll apologise - I try to at least acknowledge their existence though. It must be so hurtful being ignored every day, feeling like a ghost or something. If they're outside a supermarket but I've got no cash, I'll ask if they want anything from the shop.
I give hundreds if not thousands of pounds to shitty evil corporations every single year by buying stuff I both do and do not need - I can afford to help a fellow human every now and then. Sure, they may be faking it, but considering all the money I've spent in my lifetime on frivolous things I don't see why should I withhold a few quid from someone who might genuinely benefit from it more than me in that moment.
kawaiiyokaisenpai@reddit
A charity has NEVER told me not to give homeless plp or rough sleepers money.
Usually it's the general public who says, "dont! They'll just spend it on drugs." Which I feel is a pathetic way to release them from the guilt of their 'do nothing' bad attitude Miserly and selfish.
I give homeless money. I give charity money. I talk to the homeless, and I talk to charities. Just DO kind things. That includes giving money. If you're still unsure, give them some food or a warm drink, waterproof shoe covers, waterproof gloves, some thermal long johns. Just do good.
ffxivneet@reddit
I don't know about other parts of the UK but in London you either have the most aggressive beggars, like I'm talking straight up grabbing your arm or blocking your way or the ones who get mad for not getting "enough money". The worst are the ones that come in shops or stores begging.
GiftOdd3120@reddit
Sometimes. I try to make basic conversation first, ask their name, how they are, if they need anything from the shops ect some people have asked me to buy then food and drink instead of having the cash, some prefer cash. I don't often carry cash so can't give much even when I do have it anyway. If I give them cash I ask them to make good choices and then move on with my day. Because, I've been lucky enough to never be in a position where I've needed to "beg", but I have come close to homelessness and I would have absolutely no clue how I would handle it. Given my mental health, probably not yet well, so who am I to judge what they need to do to get them through another probably really shitty day/night? I have no illusion that they always make good choices, but maybe speaking to someone who didn't ignore them and showed them a bit of kindness, helped them in some small way. And that matters. Saying this, I don't give to anyone I don't feel comfortable talking to first.
spicyzsurviving@reddit
I never have coins or notes on me, and if I do it’s for a specific purpose so no I don’t give money, but have offered to buy a meal deal for them before, and will usually try to direct them to shelter or a food bank. Unsurprisingly many of them totally lose interest in being helped unless that takes the form of cash in hand.
RoyalTomatillo1697@reddit
If I have a dollar or 2 in my pocket I will give it..it's unconditional ..they can buy whatever they want
belody@reddit
If they're the same homeless person who looks like they genuinely need help and I have seen them around for a long time then I might buy them food or a drink. Mostly no though because I'm pretty poor myself lol and I don't trust most of them. I've had homeless people get angry and rude towards me for 'not giving enough money' etc more than once before which put me off being kind towards most of them
Anon_777@reddit
I don't usually give them money but I do usually either share food or drink that I have with them or I offer to buy them food or drinks or something else useful. Like last December I bought one dude a cheap warm blanket and 3 pairs of thermal socks, which he asked for, and a bacon butty.
YvanehtNioj69@reddit
Kind of you to go back tbh. I don't have much money but almost always give homeless people some or more recently cause I always see them outside the supermarket I get them a yoghurt drink or some sort of healthier snack. I try to avoid things with a lot of added sugar because you don't know if they are able to brush their teeth often do you. If I ever got rich I think I'd go and book homeless people a hotel room for the night get them lots nice nice food and drink or do something idk would research first. Sometimes it's a bit frustrating if people don't say thanks or whatever but then I think this person may be going through serious mental issues or drug addiction my pound coin or grocery item probably isn't a main priority. But yeah knowing alcoholics and people with serious mental illness who are lucky to have supportive family around them I just think these people on the street could be my mates and they're doing their best and have it harder than most of us could ever imagine so always be kind to them surely.
stemmo33@reddit
On the rare occasion I have a quid in my pocket, I ain't gonna have anywhere to spend it so may as well give it to someone that will.
WillNotShitPost@reddit
OP is the kind of person who will get scammed out of their life savings
stemmo33@reddit
Not really, if they had change they weren't going to use it very around then what's the issue?
TheBlueDinosaur06@reddit
stupid thing to say really - a bit of compassion doesn't mean they're especially susceptible to scams
IzzyBella95@reddit
Some yes, some no. Depends on the person.
Pvt_Patches@reddit
I've always been told not to because it's more likely they will buy drugs or cigarettes rather than food. It's better to give them food or drink.
Most of them are homeless because of addictions and poor financial choices. Giving them money will not help.
Only_Amphibian3107@reddit
I was drunk once and I gave a homeless man £10 to get food… I know that’s very silly but my drunk mind believed he was really going to buy food. He ran off down an alley and absolutely did not get food. I was just like “oh well, that was predictable, why did I do that?!” But I was so angry he didn’t have food… so I went into KFC and bought him LOADS of popcorn chicken. Went back to him and gave it to him and he just fed it all to the seagulls…
God, I was so pissed off 😂
Remarkable-Ad155@reddit
I rarely have cash tbh but will sometimes give some money if I do.
I always buy a Big Issue from my local seller every Saturday though for some reason, enjoy chatting to the guy tbh and the magazine is actually quite good sometimes.
tommycamino@reddit
The Big Issue is very underrated.
Remote_Motor2292@reddit
You're a very good person for doing that.
rbcsky5@reddit
NO! Don't give to ANY of them please. They use them on drug
IIgardener1II@reddit
I always offer to refer them to the local homeless agencies. They usually say no.
awkwardandroid@reddit
I do if I have change on me. Why wouldn’t I
samuel199228@reddit
I never do I always expect the homeless in my area to spend it on drugs or alcohol things they don't need rather give it to a charity that helps them.
But then you could get people pretending to be homeless as well
SundaePuzzleheaded20@reddit
Yes because idgaf if they spend it on cigarettes or booze. If it makes them happy it makes me feel good to know I've helped them.
BCS24@reddit
Nah, we already pay taxes our whole lives into a welfare system that is meant to support them. Obviously it’s not perfect but I think the problem is better dealt with by councils and charities.
Ok-Cut-2730@reddit
The problem is the system is overloaded and has huge waiting lists. The majority of genuine homeless people will be men. As they're bottom of the list for housing, woman and children and refugee's are fast tracked for housing.
fell-destroyed@reddit
Obviously - because women, children, and refugees are so much more vulnerable living on the streets than men, considering men pose the most violence to homeless people.
kayzgguod@reddit
truth
TeaCatReads@reddit
I have given food and drinks but won’t give money as with many it will go on drugs or alcohol
Famzlifts@reddit
I usually don’t, mainly because I don’t carry any cash with me. However, I’ve bought food for people on multiple occasions.
The last time, a Polish guy was outside a Burger King in Lewisham. He wasn’t asking anyone for money, and he didn’t even look like a beggar, but he was wearing very old, worn-out clothes. I could see the misery in his face, so I approached him and asked if he wanted something to eat. His expression changed immediately, and, almost in tears, he responded, 'Yes, please, food, my friend'.
Everyone was looking at me like I was doing something wrong 🙄
GayAttire@reddit
Just a note to say that if you're going to buy them food, do ask first. I worked with the homeless a while back, and it was very common for people to be given more sandwiches than they could eat in a day, while they still couldn't afford a night in a shelter.
GetNooted@reddit
The shelters are all free though aren't they? The issue for most is they need to be sober to go into them isn't it?
barrythecook@reddit
Not always, weirdly if you get a job you effectively get.punished for it aswell, one I was in was 200 quid a week if you were in full.time.work I left just before it became time to.kick me out after saving the money for a deposit on a hmo room instead of paying them still got garnished out my wages but saved quite a bit of money compared to what staying there would have cost me.
GayAttire@reddit
I worked with them in 2008, so I can't answer that, I'm afraid.
Semi-On-Chardonnay@reddit
I tend to give food or money, depending if I have cash.
I'm with Steve Hughes on not taking the moral high ground:
https://youtu.be/Qm6kl17HH9s?si=zCsQM-VnUntXDI8h
ItsDominare@reddit
No I don't, but that's only because I haven't carried cash on me for many years. Back when I did, I did.
canceltheparty@reddit
I don't give money, but I do buy them food and drink, especially coffee's when it starts getting colder.
AdThat328@reddit
I will on the rare occasions I have some change. I usually don't have any cash on me so I'll just offer to buy them something to eat or whatever.
eastcoastseahag@reddit
I have not always had this rule, but now my general practice is that I do not pull my wallet out in wide open public spaces (for context - I'm a small lady & have had experiences that prompted this practice). I did work in the affordable housing/housing stability/homelessness world for about 15 years, and this I think is what gave me peace of mind when I wasn't able to help an individual in-person and in the moment. Otherwise, I'd struggle with not doing something, especially if they've got a pet with them.
There was a comedian probably like 30 years ago who was commenting on criticisms of people who are homeless that accept donations... something about people don't want to give them money because they think they will just spend the money on drugs or alcohol, but what are any of us spending money on? Probably some alcohol, at the least.
I think people should do what feels right and safe and that doesn't create a hardship for them.
Rocky-bar@reddit
I certainly used to, but I don't seem to see any lately. I live in a small town, hopefully the local homeless people have found housing.
Maxxxine_Payne@reddit
No. Absolutely not. And I was informed not to by my university Psych staff and also by Homeless charity heads at my old job. Buy them a sandwich or toiletries, sure, but NEVER money. It just goes to pimps or drug dealers. People make serious money off panhandling and you never know who's fake and who isn't. Never invite them into a shop with you to choose what they want (it always turns into more; a lift, money, money, money, alcohol etc). You can drop off a couple of Greggs pasties or whatever next to them, but that's all. There is sooooo much help and support available to those who are homeless, loads of charities working the streets, help and support, but they're out there for a reason and it's usually nefarious. They'll give you a sob story, but there's always more to it.
Also, don't give to charities lol (I worked for them. All the money goes to the CEO's. Just don't bother).
scorpius69@reddit
No, although I will offer to buy them a item if choice (within reason)
Rocky-bar@reddit
OP congratulations for going back out with your change from the bedside table, you're obviously a decent person, well done.
Slippy901@reddit
I’d rather buy them a burger or something than hand out cash for more tenants super tbh
ConeSlingr@reddit
Yes of course. Too many people are like “tHeY WiLl JuSt SpEnD iT oN dRuGS” but who cares? If I was living on the street I would probably do drugs too to help forget about my life.
Different_Math_304@reddit
The last time i gave a homeless person anything was in 2002, a bottle of vodka as we couldn't finish it before going in a night club.
RepresentativeCat196@reddit
No. I’m not silly. Used to work as an outreach volunteer with rough sleepers. They might spend it on drugs/alcohol. You are better off referring them to homelessness outreach services via Streetlink if it still exists and buying them food.
raccoonsaff@reddit
I do, but I do worry as occasionally I have had someone when I opened my purse just take a £20 note out.
BackgroundCarpet1796@reddit
I'm not from the UK, but I saw the post and found it interesting. The answer is no, I don't. I simply don't carry physical money anymore. I used to, but now I can't.
Either_Reality3687@reddit
Don't give money if you're not comfortable you could give them socks or gloves or a hat etc. I knew a man who had two dogs he acted homless, and my son asked if we could give him some money for the dogs. I said, "Let's go get some dog treats." Then that way, we know he's giving the treats to the dog when I handed the treats to the man he started swearing at me he knew he couldn't do anything other then give them to.his dogs. I've heard so many people fake homeless.
annihilation511@reddit
If I have coins on me I give, if only notes I don't.
CheapVinylUK@reddit
Always buy them something to eat or a hot drink. I never chuck them money.
Majestic_Staff5486@reddit
No , I totally understand how awful living on the streets must be & how it could lead to a drug or alcohol dependency. But I don't want to give money to enable this as it's really not helping the individual in the long run. Also I've offered to buy food/drink for people before instead and basically been told to f**k off, and have them become verbally aggressive. I tend to not engage now beyond saying sorry & apologizing.
Sad_Difficulty_7853@reddit
I don't give them money because I don't carry change, but I will occasionally buy them something to eat and drink if I'm able to, usually only the ones sat besides food places, they're usually there for actual food.
gillemor@reddit
I tend not to give money but invite them to a restaurant for food. Money will probably be spent on drink or drugs.
GlassOfWater001@reddit
I will usually buy them water if it is a hot day
Moppy6686@reddit
Usually food. We had a regular with a dog in town when I was growing up and we always brought him a Xmas plate and some meat off the bone for his dog.
TheCitrixGuy@reddit
Not anymore, I ask what food or drink they want and get them that
KingofCalais@reddit
No. I dont carry money and they dont carry card machines. I used to give them a fag when i smoked if they asked, but ive quit now so cant do that either.
MyNewAccountx3@reddit
No because I don’t carry cash on me ever! I heard someone say on a podcast that if you’re on the streets and drink and drugs is what gets you through every day, really made me think differently and I thought that yeah, I’d want the alcohol to warm me up and keep me going too. So my perspective has shifted, but doesn’t change that I don’t use cash or even carry anything more than my phone with me now.
XibanyaR@reddit
I never give money, but I never refuse to get a drink or smt to eat if its asked for
Many-Following1846@reddit
There's a guy who's always outside my local co-op. I give him a 10er every Friday. He can treat himself to whatever he wants. I chat to him most days, and he seems to be a decent bloke. A relationship breakdown has landed him on the streets.
Acrobatic_Ad7088@reddit
No. I don't talk to homeless people. Been burned too many times.
FlatTyres@reddit
Currently no - never have cash - not even an awkward "haven't got any cash, sorry" despite having a £20 note as I don't have notes either. Spent a lot of time in my overdraft this year struggling myself, but on only 3 occasions did I help out - 3 separate people. 2 got a meal deal and one got a burger and coffee from McDonald's which I paid for by card.
Would I give cash if I had it in current times? Very hesitantly. If I was doing well? More likely yes, but I'd still rather get them food.
The harder one is people begging for money for a night in a hostel. I don't see myself earning enough to be able to make an impact on their ability to afford a night in a dorm.
I do feel a bit shitty for my answer being pretty much no in most cases though.
MustNotSay@reddit
No. I’ve seen too many go home.
PositiveLibrary7032@reddit
I don’t carry cash its cards and Google pay.
StanleyChuckles@reddit
No. I don't carry cash any more.
Silver_Switch_3109@reddit
No. I have seen so many people begging for money that I no longer see them anymore.
Geord1evillan@reddit
No, because I don't carry cash anymore unless it's for a specific purpose. BUT.... this is always a quandry for me. My son is very generous, and I've raised him to appreciate altruistic behaviour, but also try to find the line between altruism and gullibility. So....
I've been homeless 7 times in my life - due to ill health and a refusal to live with drug dealers whilst babies are present, and a refusal to have my brain warped by predatory religious freaks - and only one time did I ever ask for £.
Kwik Save in Byker was about to close on a Sunday afternoon and I was 2p short of buying one of those cheap rolls they used to do. Cheapest food in there, and I'd not eaten that day.
Asked a guy for that 2p, he berated me for a good 5minutes - following me down the street to do so...
He was an ignorant cunt, convinced I wanted money for drugs (never done drugs in my life), and I would NEVER want to be like that prick. He could have simply said 'no'. Would have been fair enough.
I bring it up because I've given far too much to the homeless and hapless over the years. Taken in a lot of strays, and inevitably been screwed over each time. That's fine. Sometimes people aren't ready to be helped. I've also lived with a LOT of people who have been homeless /been in and out of hostels etc, and one thing we all have in common?
Not the abuse, which differs person to person. Not the addictions, or sacrifices, or hard luck, which again differs person to person. No consistent personality traits. No consistency kn physical ability.
No.
Only thing we all had in common was that nine of us ever begged for £ on the streets.
When you're homeless - and I mean actually sleeping rough - the main problems are sleep (deprivation) and safety. You don't stay awake all day, in public where the danger is, begging for money.
Just doesn't happen.
Trying to get your life back together, making sure you can get clothes washed, hot food, making sure your friends are all OK, that shit takes up ALL your time.
You don't have time to sit around begging. ...
Which leaves me stuck sometimes. Because I'd happily help - and often buy warm food and drink for people on the streets (I can't offer a roof over their heads anymore, i'm a single dad with a disabled & autistic kid now so it isn't just myself I'd be risking) - but I just do not believe that any of the people who approach me / I come past are homeless.
And that's fucking offensive to me, tbh.
I've known too many people who are willing to begging for a living, or just for drugs. I'd be more likely to give them cash if they were honest about why they wanted it.
Ofc, it doesn't matter as much this year, as I don't carry cash any more... but grrr.
Anyway... have a great night.
Foxglovenectar@reddit
I've always given them food. Meal deal, bottles water, hot drinks. Seems a better idea than money.
ItchyAd7409@reddit
Yes, the government/royalty and they aren’t homeless.
TrashbatLondon@reddit
Yes, I give money. There is an immediate need many rough sleepers have that cannot possibly be satisfied by the state or charity sector.
Yes, charities also do important work.
Yes, (functioning) local authorities also do important work in this area.
No, it is none of my business what someone chooses to spend money I have given to them on.
Should you give food instead? Maybe, but only if someone asks for it. Direct provision removes autonomy from people and over a long period of time, reduces people’s ability to learn how to live outside of entrenched homeless patterns.
Is “spending it on drugs” a bad thing? No. Sometimes the physical effects of withdrawal can put someone in serious danger, and even lead to death in certain environmental conditions. Sometimes, a heroin addict needs a bit of heroin before they need a sandwich. It’s an uncomfortable truth and it really triggers people’s victorian attitudes to charitable giving, but facts are facts.
fr3yababii33@reddit
Not money, no. But the vast majority of McDonald’s free food stickers from monopoly etc I don’t like, so I always give them to them. They get to eat something warm, they don’t go to waste, and I feel like I’ve done a little good in this horrible world.
alico127@reddit
I always used to until someone I cared about developed a serious drug addiction and now I never do.
It’s every family member’s worst nightmare worrying that your money might buy the drugs that finally kill my friend/son/wife etc.
jimmy19742018@reddit
they are alcoholics or druggies so don't get a penny from me, i have saw people offering them food and got abuse!!!
limitless247x@reddit
I prefer buying them a hot drink or food but I make sure I always do
Zealousideal-Gold280@reddit
I don’t usually give money, especially since I’m broke student. But if it’s a good week and I have some spare money, I’ll ask if they want something from the shop, and then buy them whatever, usually a drink, chocolate bar, crisps and sandwich.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
No. My partner does and now they come round to the door begging for money which is not great when home alone. We also can't eat out locally as they come in and demand money from him.
baechesbebeachin@reddit
Tell them to fuck off
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
I do - I get called a bitch a lot. He doesn't and it has led to too many issues.
UK-KelpieGuy@reddit
Why are you dating someone who gives money to people that call you a bitch ?
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
Because they aren't dumb enough to do it when I am with him. He's pretty worried they came round a few nights ago. But we live near an busy street and it has its regulars.
UK-KelpieGuy@reddit
You’re missing the point though, aren’t you?
It doesn’t matter when he gives them the money. It doesn’t matter if you’re there or not. He is giving money to people who call you a bitch.
I mean, you do you honey, but I’ll tell you for free that most people who found out their partner was giving cash to people who verbally abuse them would tell that same partner to fuckity fuck off down to a cliff edge and then fuckity fuck off a bit further.
“Oh you called my partner a bitch ? Lovely job, here ten quid.”
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
You are assuming he knew. I don't tell him every time I encounter street beggars because it is a given in our area and he does what he wants with his change. It took a while before connections were made. Also UK, just impressed I wasn't called a tight cunt.
Also I've been with him 25 years - it seems a little stupid to dump him because a street person is abusive when I don't give money. He has stopped mainly giving.
UK-KelpieGuy@reddit
Hmm. You’re really just not that bright are you ?
JackDrawsStuff@reddit
Not to mention endangering her by drawing the attention of unknown quantities who want cash.
Big red flag for me that like.
Difficult-Broccoli65@reddit
You partner needs to grow a fucking backbone.
Thandoscovia@reddit
The fuck? Your partner loves homeless, violent and aggressive beggars more than you
Tell him to become an adult
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
No, he just a bit naive. They don't call me bitch when I am with him but because I don't give money.
imafuckinsausagehead@reddit
Your partner needs to
Littletap27@reddit
did he bring them to your house? Why did he bring them to the house ? I'm assuming thats why they know where you live? Either way I'd be so scared and that no way to live in your own home.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
He didn't - they worked out where we live. Pandemic was bad for street begging so they moved to door-to-door scams which led to an interesting night where police had to be called. He's never brought anyone to the house but do you really think they don't know the local area?
PoinkPoinkPoink@reddit
Very occasionally I will, but I’d rather buy them something they want, mostly because I rarely carry cash. I see a homeless guy every morning when walking my dog, we chat for a few minutes if he’s awake. I’ll sometimes bring him a bottle of water or maybe a bit of cake or something if I’ve made one at the weekend, usually we just chat but once every couple of weeks he asks if I’ll buy him a bacon butty or a hot drink, which I do.
Plasticman328@reddit
Give money to someone like the Salvation Army. They work with people on the street to provide them with food and shelter. If you give them money directly they will probably spend it on the drugs that will kill them.
yellowc1trusfru1t@reddit
Myself and friends have been verbally abused many a time, often with the threat of violence so my playbook is to ignore or very assertively refuse.
Trudestiny@reddit
We don’t carry cash but we always stop when we can & do something.
Had an encounter near Warren St Tube with my daughter last week . Homeless man offered me money to go into Tesco as he saw us entering the store . He wanted us to get him a plastic bag , they don’t let him in because he has 2 dogs , one was a little puppy.
We didn’t tell him reason we were going in was to get him a meal deal & dog food . Of course didn’t take his money . Came out with food , drinks for him & his dogs . Stayed & chatted for a little , petted his dogs , seemed to make him happy .
MyAwesomeAfro@reddit
I live in England.
Where I live is considered usually to be one of the worst areas in the country outside of London.
When homeless people ask me for money for the most absurd reasons I usually just walk past and feel a little guilty before doing my best to forget it.
Couple of weeks ago, a man about my age asked me for exactly £3.25 so he could buy a 3L of Frosty Jacks and some DRUM.
Gave him a fiver, all I had on me in cash. The honesty made it feel different to me, the guy was upfront and honest and just wanted to get out of it for another night.
I felt just as guilty enabling him but idk. I'm not him.
andyff@reddit
One asked me to buy her a coffee last year. I said sure go on then. She asked for some expensive toffee latte thing. I was like ugh okay then. Expected her to just ask for the most basic thing haha.
Lonely_Cod3080@reddit
Yes I do....what they do with it is up to them...Either give without terms and conditions or don't give at all
Naykon1@reddit
Don’t give them money, most squander it on gambling or drugs.
Buy them food/drink and give that to them if you feel the need to give something.
amintowords@reddit
I spent 10 years writing the cryptic crossword for The Big Issue and highly recommend donating to them or another homeless charity if you want to do something to support the homeless and be sure it's money well spent.
kitknit81@reddit
Nope. I cannot trust that they are actually in need as there are too many scam artists out there.
bosscockuk@reddit
I give to big issue sellers, but don’t take a mag..
Ok_Help516@reddit
I don't give the homeless anything as in my area the people that are begging are professional beggers with their own houses and they are known to get aggressive if they are given small change or food, and because of that now I'm very sceptical towards homeless people as nowadays you can't tell the difference between the true homeless and the fakers.
HisLoba97@reddit
I refuse simply because I'm also struggling. If I had more money I'd buy them food amd drink rather than give them cash
BannedFromHydroxy@reddit
I do all the time. It's not for me to judge what people do with their money, esp when I get on it quite often. At the same time I also volunteer with homeless charities. People can do both.
KitchenPractice5106@reddit
Whenever I go into town I usually get a sausage roll or something from shops so I always buy an extra sausage roll, coffee, sandwich etc to give anyone on the streets nearby as i always hope if the roles were reversed, someone would do the same for me! Though I never give money, only food/drinks! :)
NorthLondoner1976@reddit
If they have a dog; then 100% yes!
ChampionshipOk5046@reddit
There's no way to tell which are scammers, and everyone hates being scammed.
Give the money to homeless charities.
delpigeon@reddit
Nope - I've had some bad experiences with people then harassing me for more money, following me down the street etc. I'll sometimes give some food, especially if they're sat outside a supermarket or something and I'm going in anyway. Many of the faces of the 'homeless' community near me are familiar and I also see them riding almost-certainly stolen bicycles etc.
I specifically visited my local shelter once and asked - night shelters (or at least the one near me!) doesn't cost money to stay in. So anybody in the area I live holding a sign saying they need money for the shelter is telling porkies.
It feels so heartless, but it's impossible to know if people are scoundrels, and there are routes to get support - it's just a lot of people don't take them up because fundamentally their lives are erratic secondary to drug problems.
ReciprocatingBadger@reddit
Nope, never.
More likely than not you're enabling an addiction or some sort of organised crime.
Better off donating to charities such as Shelter.
Ayyyyylmaos@reddit
Every so often I go round with like, £15 worth of Greggs and ask them what they want. The ability to actually choose food seems to make them so happy, as opposed to me just being like “do you want a sausage roll”
What I will say, is there’s a few “fake” homeless where I live, and I feel you can weed them out by not offering money. Why anyone who is homeless would reject food, I’ll never know. I’ve got a couple trust issues, so giving straight cash is difficult for me, as I always assume they’re gonna buy drugs; selection of food is my way of helping out.
Luke11enzo@reddit
Yeaa if I can afford it I do. If they use it to buy food or necessities great, if they use it to buy drugs, I get it, takes them away from their awful reality for a while. I just wish I could do more.
wouldilietouou@reddit
No I pay enough tax already for them to get their free methadone so f that
zero_rc@reddit
Used to.
Now if I see one outside a shop I sometimes, very rarely buy them one of whatever I'm going in to get - chocolate, smoothie etc.
N30NIX@reddit
The only times I have seen that advice was on council sponsored posters around towns and shopping centres. I work with quite a few homeless people and also liaise with charities and social services all across the country regularly. Not once has a caseworker advised against giving cash. What you have to bear in mind is that you have to give the cash, no strings attached, no expectation. Whenever I give cash, I acknowledge that the person may use it however they see fit, if that is for alcohol or drugs (because that is what they NEED in that moment) - so be it. My withholding a few £ is not going to cure addiction or homelessness, me giving a few £ is not going to “keep” someone addicted or homeless. When I see that the person has a dog, I will most likely go and get easy to open dog food and treats.
straightnoturns@reddit
No. I used to and then I realised this person was lying through their teeth to me daily, it was really disappointing. I felt a mug. A friend of mine is the local homeless support officer and he enlightened me that they all have housing provided but they still sleep rough to be closer to town because it’s easier to buy and sell drugs.
Dannypan@reddit
No, but I also don’t ever carry cash so I can’t. If someone asks for food though, sure.
jareer-killer1@reddit
No I do not almost ever. I’ll give them food and the sort but never money as majority of the time (not always) you are funding their drug habit
chiefgareth@reddit
Never. I don't think it helps them. Offer to buy them food or a drink if you feel bad and see what response you get.
Longjumping-Land1748@reddit
I have given in the past even when I diddnt have much myself, afterwards I just hoped that the person actually uses the money on something useful as I'm practically giving them the little I have, its even harder now with everything going up I've taken on a second job and I still don't feel like I have room to give in that sense. People ask me everyday for spare change whilst walking to work I tell them I haven't sorry I think to myself I barely have spare change for myself and my own responsibilities! by the end of the month I'm scrimping and borrowing from family. So unfortunately it's shit but no I don't give much these days because I don't have much. When I do I definitely would like to help others where I can it makes me feel good. Any of us could end up in that situation. The recent times I've helped people out was buying them something like a sandwich or coffee rather than giving money.
manic_panda@reddit
My husband offers to buy them fags if they need them, I usually offer food or dog snacks for their pooches. It's hard though because the last few years our town has gone from a handful of familiar homeless people with well known quirks to essentially a non stop parade of spice heads, I'm afraid to approach a lot of them now, even to offer food to.
laaldiggaj@reddit
No, then the woman became verbally abusive towards me, so no. Never.
Healthy-Grocery6055@reddit
I bought a ham and cheese baguette for a homeless guy outside a Tube station once. He told me he was vegetarian and threw it in the bin. So beggars CAN be choosers. Amongst all the professional beggars I see in my home town (one which I saw get into a BMW at the end of his "shift" once) I do know one that is genuine, and I've been known (although somewhat drunkenly) to give him change. I've had a chat with him before although I really don't remember what it was about as I was 3 sheets to the wind.
Macca_321@reddit
I always give to homeless people. And the argument about them spending on drugs or alcohol doesn't sit well with me, as it's just justification to not do something you don't agree with/don't want to.
Have I had bad experiences with homeless people? Sure. But overwhelmingly, most homeless people have reacted with genuine gratitude and thanks when I have donated.
DevSiarid@reddit
I avoid giving them money. I usually ask them would they like a hot meal and what would they like and then get them that.
Forever-Fallyn@reddit
Yeah I will absolutely give money if I can afford to.
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
I do sometimes yes.
And yes I know it might get spent for them to get high. I’d do the exact same thing if I was homeless.
rlyfckd@reddit
Nope, giving homeless people money enables certain behaviours and really it adds to the problem rather than helps. A lot of charities tell you not to give them money.
I do offer to buy them food or water though when they ask for money, if I'm able to. Most where I live refuse it though.
stevedavies12@reddit
No, I don't - and it is something that does bother me. The problem is that I have not used cash in a long time, so I just genuinely do not have any cash. And I am not the only one and there are more and more like me.
kenma91@reddit
Yes. Always. They are miserable whatever they do with my money I give them is upto them. Whatever helps them through the day. Im an addict in recovery and struggled to get right in the warmth of my own home. Imagine what they go through
Abby_JaackMaate@reddit
Not in a million years, give them food or water if you want to
FreemanMarie81@reddit
Not money, but I’ll buy them food and/or a drink.
Sea_Pangolin3840@reddit
I give them food
Beanruz@reddit
No never. Literally homeless charities tell you not to.
kizty@reddit
I ask then in a matey way "cut the story you have rehearsed, is it for drugs, tell me honestly" most of them actually own up to it and say yes.
I give spare change to homeless people in set ups and tents and will always buy food or water or milk or literally a coffee i dont care, when asked.
Most people you can tell its to buy drugs, you see them another day saying the same thing and then talking to their mates in parks shooting up.
I once gave £20 to a 'crying' guy on the train when i had literally no other money but i had a home to go back to and he didnt actually ask, he spoke very loudly on the phone begging the hostel to let him stay even tho he lost his key. To replace the key it was £20, so i went up to him and gave him the money. Its mid winter and so cold out i felt terrible.
2 weeks later i was sat in a coffee shop with my dog and there he is. He walks in and sits there loudly saying exactly the same words and someone got up and offered him money. He got up to leave and saw me and dashed out. He then the week after came in to that same shop again doing the same thing and i realised id be scammed and was fuming so i shouted hey you. Mysteriously the phone call somehow was over and i told him what a piece of shit he was. Everytime he came into a shop pretending to be on the phone and saw me hed run out. I soon spread the word. Now i offer to buy the room for anyone who is cold and struggling. They usually say "do you not have any change then" and that tells me all i need to know. These junkie scammers really ruin it for genuine folk struggling.
kizty@reddit
I have and will buy a homeless man or women booze at christmas. Its so cold out and id be miserable and want a drink too. The addicts who get shitty when you say sorry i dont carry cash and then get mad at you and storm off, they can do one.
itsheadfelloff@reddit
Not anymore, I just have a direct debit for a homeless charity. Unfortunately a mixture of no longer carrying cash and some beggars being super rude, aggressive and outright racist has made it an easy decision.
Connect-Election4162@reddit
I'm way too late to the party but yes, even more so if they want to get fucked up on alcohol because I like honesty an, I completely get it.
officialslacker@reddit
When I first moved to the city, I'd walk to work. About half way through the walk I'd come to an intersection and would meet a friend and we'd walk the rest of the way to work together. There was often a man sat at the corner begging for money. Id give him spare change sometimes.
One morning when waiting for my friend, the begger wasn't there. I'm just chilling, watching the world go by while I wait, and noticed a car pull up on the other side of the road. The begger jumps out, grabs some bags from the boot and as he's running across the road to my side, shouts something like "I'll see you at home" to the driver and process to sit down next to me, gets his sign etc out.
TheNam3l3ss1@reddit
Aren't you an angel
manufan1992@reddit
I can’t afford to give money to homeless people.
GhostMassage@reddit
Don't be guilting people for saying no.
If you want to give to homeless people you need to give to a homeless charity so you know the money is definitely going to helping homeless people. Otherwise you could just be feeding someones habit.
blizzardlizard666@reddit
Most beggars in my area aren't homeless but they are on crack and heroin, and look homeless (I have friends in the same predicament who know them)- so no I personally wouldn't give money but if someone asks for food I will give food. Crack addiction is an expensive bottomless pit and I can't fill it.
blizzardlizard666@reddit
They actually refer to it as "tapping people" for money, which I find very distasteful to be so derogatory towards the people who are helping them, most of who may be struggling themselves. Unacceptable and since I discovered that I never felt bad not giving these men my money again.
JoeyJoeC@reddit
No. Especially the ones that hobble along the cars at some large junctions around London, those ones are not even homeless.
firerawks@reddit
to be honest in 2024 i don’t carry cash. ever. unless they start getting contactless i can’t give them money even i wanted to
New-Arm6963@reddit
I sometimes get asked for food and then when I give it to them they want the receipt so they can take it back. I don’t get receipts so I’ve had a few cans of drink, bottles of milk and bags of crisps thrown at me
WarmTransportation35@reddit
I used to feel bad for them but now I don't bother. There are charities, food banks, religious places, government support programms available to them but they are refusing it all so they can sit down and ask for spare change in the most touristy place they can find.
mikiex@reddit
No, I'll give food or drink (Even though the homeless around where I am often have pretty good access to free food). There is a local food charity completely run by volunteers and I will give money to that.
Professional_Rice990@reddit
No, but your heart was in the right place. So be proud of that.
If the person spent it on drugs, food, hostel then so be it.
gowithflow192@reddit
Never, anyone begging is an addict (drugs, booze) You're feeding their habit.
Slag13@reddit
Ill informed.
w1gglepvppy@reddit
lol, and you think you're going to cure their addiction by not giving money to them, do you?
JackDrawsStuff@reddit
No.
Despite your best intentions, giving cash to a homeless person is carries with it a high probability of it being a harmful act (wherein it enables them to access drugs, alcohol etc…).
Could help them, sure, but the potential damage that cash could do is devastating. It’s not a dice I’m willing to roll.
ATSOAS87@reddit
I have done. I haven't done so for a while though.
Vinegarinmyeye@reddit
I was briefly homeless years ago, and I have a few short days left in my current place before I'm evicted by bailiffs and will end up on the streets again for the first time in about 20 years.
Pretty terrifying I'm not gonna lie, as it stands I'm determined not to beg for money from anyone. I didn't have to last time around but the world was a very different place back then, remains to be seen whether I'll be able to get the same kind of support to eat / shower / wash clothes etc.
In the past if I've had change in my pocket I've given it, with the exception of the folks I know are professional beggars. Likewise I know some of the genuine rough sleepers in my area so if I'm going into the shop and I don't hsve change I'll offer to get them something.
It's going to be weird to be on the other side of that situation. As said I'm determined not to ask for anything and hopefully pull myself out of the situation relatively quickly like I did last time, but I guess I won't turn it down if some kind soul offers.
Slag13@reddit
I absolutely only wish you the best and hope something turns a different direction for you.
Vinegarinmyeye@reddit
Thank you for the kind words, sincerely appreciated.
Very wholesome from u/Slag13
(I'm not being sarcastic, just gave me a chuckle. Very much a r/rimjob_steve moment).
ATSOAS87@reddit
Good luck, mate.
Jchicc0@reddit
No I don’t but I will often buy them a drink and sandwich
lufcwill@reddit
Nope, I never have any cash on me.
Interstellore@reddit
No I don’t even carry cash.
If I’m feeling like it I will offer to go buy food and water for them or even a blanket but often times they don’t want it and I have to assume they’re after the next hit of booze or drugs.
Extreme_Ad4838@reddit
Never.
antebyotiks@reddit
Nothing I can buy with odd change means anything to me as much as it does for a homeless person, sure they might buy crack or heroin or they might even be a random fake homeless person scamming for money but I don't care because I'm sure one of the times I given a pound or so it genuinely helped them.
Or if it's outside a shop im going I'll buy a sandwich or coffee
Percypocket@reddit
Occasionally yes. I essentially got lightly mugged at London Victoria a few months ago by a man who asked me for a McDonald's which I agreed to buy, then it was £10, so I went to the cash point, then it was £20 which would get him his week at the hostel and his food included. I felt too awkward to say no by that point so he got his £20. I thought to myself afterwards even if he did just go on to spend it on drugs or booze, who am I to judge how people choose to cope. If it made one more night on the streets more bearable for him then so be it.
Equivalent-Turnip629@reddit
I literally never carry coins or cash on me any more, so no.
I did use to though.
Cheesy_Wotsit@reddit
No.
Unfortunately there are too many around here, be them real or fake, that want the money over the food/hot drink I'm willing to offer. I get it that drugs help them escape from their shitty world for a while, but getting my money out in front of you is dangerous for me as I don't know you from Adam and whether you're going to mug me for it or what.
Sad_Appointment1477@reddit
Yes, I give them money. They are humans who deserve the right to make their own decisions, it's none of my business. I can't imagine the loneliness, psychological and physical hardship they face day to day, and I don't want to take away yet another basic human dignity from them.
AtillaThePundit@reddit
I don’t carry cash. But if I find money on the floor within sight of a hobo I give it to the hobo. £50 so far weirdly . 2x£20 notes and a tenner
Jasambeli@reddit
Absolutely.
It doesn’t matter what the fuck they’re spending it on imo as that seems to be anyone goes on about…they’re homeless they’ve barely any happiness in their life. You’ve no idea why they’re there and if you can give someone a snippet of happiness and they’re already an addict and drugs are what they’re using it for… so what? Unless YOU are going to take them to drug counselling personally and sponsor them and go through the process of healing a person of their addiction which is incredibly straining then go you, but if you’re not… then get the hell off your high horse about people who do what they want with their OWN money.
HerbertWigglesworth@reddit
I used to more when I had cash - im giving someone the opportunity to spend it as they please, not doing so with conditions attached
If I donate to charities I do so because I want the guarantee of the money being loosely used to supporting that charity and its beneficiaries
Slag13@reddit
CONCISE & WELL THOUGHTS ! Bravo!
kliccit@reddit
Agree with both points. But I believe we will be in the minority.
EatingCoooolo@reddit
Only if they’re going to buy drugs with the money LOL
grouchybarx@reddit
No not anymore after an incident a few weeks ago where I gave a ''homeless'' person some money and about half an hour later I saw them in traffic driving a brand new camper van at the other side of us.
I no longer carry cash now unless I know I will need it.
Monkeytennis01@reddit
Now and then if I have a quid or two in my pocket which is rare. Having seen ‘homeless’ people change shifts, I have a dose of scepticism about whether people are actually homeless or not.
hundndnjfbbddndj@reddit
The shift change might just be that it’s a good spot and they have an agreement that one person takes it at a certain time. I know that’s what happens with the dude outside of my local Morrisons - they have an agreement he gets the evening, and another dude has the day.
Must be lonely that way. They don’t tend to hang out together because you’re more likely to be moved along, and less likely to make donations.
Monkeytennis01@reddit
Yeah, that sounds legit. I saw a bunch of people and the majority were dressed in sportswear - spotless tracksuits, trainers and jackets, with one of them dressed ‘homeless’ style. Swapped blanket, sleeping bag etc with the ‘homeless’ person who’d been begging previously then walk off together.
Intruder313@reddit
I never carry cash but would not anyway as several of the regulars I pass are professional beggars rather than actually homeless
Less_Mess_5803@reddit
Many many yrs ago I saw a lady take a 'beggar' some food, he threw it across Liverpool Lime Street station shouting I don't want your fucking food I want your fucking money. The poor lady looked like she was about to cry. Never given to homeless.
Ok_Rabbital@reddit
No, I don't, I don't feel bad about it, because they can buy drugs, alcohol or this can be part of an organisation bigger than we can see and with sinister motives behind. I prefer to buy them food, if they're genuine, they will be happy. I know, I would. With giving money and facilitating drugs and alcohol intake, you can actually do more harm. If someone sleeps on the street, you can offer anything, like a warm blanket, pillow, a jacket...food, a warm drink...you'll feel better. Cheers!
txakori@reddit
No. I work in that sector and I am aware that all it does is fuel addiction. I’ll give them a fag though.
Temporary-Zebra97@reddit
I cant solve a homeless persons problems, but if have a few quid spare I will give, and I don't care if they spend that on booze or drugs, god forbid they escape their reality for a few hours by getting high or shitfaced.
KeyImprovement5735@reddit
Yes. I get £1 and £2 coins just for that purpose. I also buy Big Issues and donate to related charities.
It's totally ok not to give money. But it's not ok to needlessly justify that with lazy stereotypes and prejudices.
toonlass91@reddit
No. I might buy them a drink and a snack but never give money. I feel anyone genuinely homeless would be grateful of that and anyone just begging for money won’t be
particlegun@reddit
No.
My dad had an encounter with a homeless type begging for money (she started by asking him for a cig). They went on 'Surely you can spare a pound or two'. The old man gave her one, then went into the corner shop where they were pestering people and told the owner they had beggars outside. The store owner told him she had just drawn 80 quid from their terminal.
My dad has gotten into trouble by being too nice to these people. One time he gave them money, and the next thing he knew, they were banging on his door demanding money.
I've told him until I'm blue in the face to say no to them, or even better ask them for a cig. I bet 99% of the time they'd tell him to fuck off.
Just look at r/choosingbeggars
Material_Break3593@reddit
If I lived on the street I’d want cash for drugs too
Solid-Spare1194@reddit
I’m grew up in different countries. I saw homeless mother with little child begging for money, food or everything asked elderly woman gave money note them. I felt bad for old woman. I’m still remember.
Grand_Variation9745@reddit
I am sick and tired of all my money getting spent on drugs and booze so i give some to the homeless.
FireLadcouk@reddit
Of course. That might be me one day and i wont judge them however they want to spend it
gregy165@reddit
Personally struggling Myself so I don’t feel bad not giving them money. I can understand the guilt of your better off though.
RegularWhiteShark@reddit
No. I usually report them (StreetLink - if you’re in Wales or England to hopefully get them some help.
I used to give away those loyalty card things from Cafe Nero or Costa when I was in uni once I had enough stickers for a free drink.
flashback5285@reddit
No because most (if not all) are professional beggars.
snapper1971@reddit
I gave a tenner to a homeless girl in the tube in London many years ago. She's been on my mind for a few days recently. That was thirty-four years ago. No idea why she would pop up in my mind. I hope she's doing well these days. She had such lovely red hair.
evertonblue@reddit
Never feel bad for not doing so - I rarely do, as most police advice seems to say they are scams nowdays
One time I did always sticks with me though. I was working in Westminster, and there was a girl - maybe 30 I had seen every day outside the Tesco express for about a fortnight. It genuinely looked like she lived there. I gave her £20 and she just burst in to floods of tears - I felt quite bad as it didn’t mean much to me but obviously meant to much to her.
I don’t even care if she spent it on drugs. If I had to sleep on the streets I am sure I would turn to drugs.
Dizzy_Werewolf1215@reddit
I pass a guy every week in my town and I always make sure I have a fiver for him. He’s not always there but his things are so I just tuck it in under his blankets for him. He sits in an alleyway on step landings so it’s usually safe enough to leave it for him. I gave him a wax jacket/coat one winter too. My brother had outgrown it so I snapped it up for the poor guy, he was soo grateful as it was absolutely freezing.
Ok-Feeling-9313@reddit
I never do.
However, a young professional sounding man approached me in a carpark. He was just made redundant and explained in detail the hardware he worked on at a local car manufacturer. Very smart man. He sounded VERY convincing I ended up giving him £50. He even gave me his phone number and dropped me a text a few hours later to say thank you and to arrange to meet up for a coffee in a few weeks to pay me back.
My partner then saw a post about the guy on Facebook with his face and phone number. Turned out he’s known for pulling that trick and does it very often.
That was the only time I have ever given money to a stranger. I’ll never do it again.
ohioisonfiar@reddit
I once brought one food as that is what he was asking for “Money for food”, but was always told don’t give money. So I gave it to them and they just said “I didn’t really need another sarnie” and I have not since but I do try to donate to charities instead directly
Mysterious_Soft7916@reddit
The way I see it, I know how that money is getting spent. I also know they will be getting that money one way or another. If I have some loose change, I'm happy to give it. Change usually gets spent on crap anyway, to be fair. If a few people do, it avoids the inevitable of shop lifting (we all pay for it through higher prices), burglary, muggings etc etc. I know we're told we shouldn't, but the charity money doesn't seem to filter down enough, and governments just don't care. I see more issues now that councils have moved them from town centres, and dealers now have homeless people grifting like it's a full-time job working in shifts.
Astin257@reddit
No
I always acknowledge their existence if they do ask but don’t give them money, a simple “sorry mate” etc.
I’ve been shouted at once before for not doing so, I then started acknowledging them before they even ask me anything now but recently was shouted out for doing this, “I don’t remember asking YOU anything”
It’s a damned if you do and a damned if you don’t situation
Easiest to just not get involved or if you do, buy them food
Naedangerledz@reddit
No, absolute waste. Goes on either, drugs, booze or fags.
StrangeKittehBoops@reddit
No, I don't give cash. I usually buy them a meal and a drink or a bag of food for their pet if they have one. In my town, they're usually sitting outside one of the large grocery stores.
I used to volunteer for a local charity that helps homeless and vulnerable people. Not all were homeless. Some were in accommodation and getting help. Many had issues with addiction and were on a plan to help them. Cash would often be spent on their addiction instead of food or bills.
ThatCaterpillar4460@reddit
In my town we have a hot breakfast project and an evening meal available everyday. I don’t give money because of this
Paperboy63@reddit
Sure. I’ll give a few pound coins, they can get a drink in a cafe or buy a sandwich, couple of cans etc. There are a few cafes around here where you can pay it forward. Pay an extra pound for your food or drink, they put a Scrabble tile in a jar. A homeless person can have a cup of tea and a slice of toast by going in and using a tile to pay.
shaneo8668@reddit
Absolutely Yes, if you found yourself on the cold streets one day you would see different, Yes they will likely spend it on alcohol and trust me... you would too.
nervous_veggie@reddit
I never have cash but sometimes would offer to get them a hot drink.
Gazz1e@reddit
Does this include people that sell the Big Issue?
frusciantefango@reddit
Very rarely. A good friend of mine has been working in greater Manc. police for over 20 years and told me the majority of people begging in Manchester are not homeless. They make a decent cash income begging and it's easier to do than anything else they can think of.
On the one hand I think well Christ if that's your best way to earn money, sitting on a paving stone for a few hours or walking round people drinking outdoors annoying them with your sob story then you must need it a lot more than I do. So if I've got spare change then I give it. But mostly I don't as don't carry cash and I'm too cynical about them being in any real need now.
ungratefulimigrant@reddit
I do, and I add "if you want to spend it on drugs or alcohol, that's just fine with me" lol not really. I do stop for a chat if I have the time.
Naive-Interaction567@reddit
Absolutely not. I’m a social worker and I know what support is out there. They need to access support. Giving them money makes it worse.
Rumhampolicy@reddit
Yes, pretty much always, or if I don't have cash, I'll buy them something. (I'll ask what they would like)
laddervictim@reddit
When he pulls out his mobile and asks for 2 browns and a white, he's not talking about new curtains
TheArtfullTodger@reddit
Only once when i was a kid. I'm more likely to put a few coins in a charity donations pot. So I suppose in some ways I'm helping homelessness especially when that charity is there to help such causes.
Izwe@reddit
You didn't not give money to a homeless person, you did not give money to a begger. Those are two different things. Beggers can make more in a day than you do, and most homeless people don't beg as they sleep during the day.
kajosik@reddit
I buy them food, never give money.
icelolliesbaby@reddit
After working in homeless shelters, no. The majority of them in my city have access to plenty of services, receive benefits and have a roof over their head. They're jot begging b3cause they have no money, they're begging because they've spent all of their money on drug
InternationalRich150@reddit
No,I don't carry cash and if I've got cash,it means I've a use for it. I have been known to buy a drink or food before but I so rarely go to the city now and there's no obvious homeless in my town
JEZTURNER@reddit
Occasionally I do. But I also have a monthly direct debit to Shelter so even when I don't, I remember that I am helping indirectly.
YogurtAmazing2995@reddit
I only give money to junkies
ResolutionNumber9@reddit
I used to, and I'd like to. But I can't remember the last time I paid cash for anything or had loose change in my pocket.
0oITo0@reddit
I was working in a remote office on Tuesday and has a view of a road coming off a motorway junction. There was a "homeless" guy sitting at the side by the lights. Every time the lights turned red on average one stopped car would give him a note of some sort. Every hour he would walk to his car down the other side road by my building to deposit his cash. The guy must have been making over £100 per hour... After witnessing this the next day I got in early to watch. Around 8am the same car arrived. The guy got out in geans and a teashirt. Changed in to his "homeless clothes" and went and sat in the same spot. So now I'm very skeptical when I see "homeless people" making more in a few hours than I do in a day.
rocc_high_racks@reddit
Hetty-Hedgerow@reddit
Yes I do. I hear the advice and warnings about them spending it on drink and drugs or being part of a begging gang.
I use the street link app when I can to potentially start a ball rolling for future support.
However I'm not a homelessness volunteer or activist, governments have done little nothing for them.
Their life is shit, now, in this very moment. So who am I to judge how they get through their day? Winters coming, shelters are scarce so why not keep the cold out or drown your pain in a can of cheap lager in a derelict doorway? Here have a couple of quid.
MapleLeaf5410@reddit
Back in the day, my father used to be asked for change to buy a cup of tea. He'd go and buy the cup of tea for them. The abuse he used to get was incredible.
Unlucky-Jello-5660@reddit
Food sure, money no. Money is better spent given to charities that can affect wider change.
WishfulStinking2@reddit
I used to but generally don’t have any cash on me anymore
Remote-Pool7787@reddit
Absolutely not. If you want to help the homeless, donate to a local charity that does outreach work. Or if you have time and not money, volunteer to help
Dismal_Composer_7188@reddit
Yup
If they wanna spend it on drugs who am I to begrudge them a few moments of happiness in this garbage, shit stained country.
If they spend it on food or somewhere to sleep then good on them, but if not, I gave the money to them, it's up to them what they do with it.
I certainly won't be listen to any officials that say not to give money. I've seen them confiscate their tents and belongings and burn them. Charities these days are little more than a business, with a vested interest in ensuring money given to homeless people flows through them.
Give money, food, whatever you want. At this point, it's not like anything you could do will make this place any worse.
PersonalityTough6148@reddit
The comments on this post are grim. These people are humans. Even if there are "professional" beggars you surely have to ask yourself what sort of a suck society we live in where people feel pushed to do this.
Maybe if we saw homelessness as a society failure rather than an individual one things might change.
Reminder that you're more likely to become homeless than a billionaire.
Greedy-Sherbet3916@reddit
I work in a big city where homelessness is a huge problem, if I have to every homeless person by the time I got to work I’d have given my days wage away before starting. Unfortunately with this come a lot of drug use, which I appreciate is a coping mechanism for some.
I normally just say “sorry love I don’t carry change” which isn’t a lie. Most of them are greatful for someone actually answering them. I do however in the winter months take some clothes in and give them out to the regulars who I see often. Buy the occasional coffee for them if it’s cold.
Cooshtie@reddit
I offered to buy a homeless lady some food because I had no cash on me as I went to the store, luckily I found a whole isle of reduced sandwiches and bought the lot....all sandwiches had either chicken or tuna and when I gave the bag of sandwiches to the lady she said "I don't like chicken or tuna, have you got any money?"
AKAGreyArea@reddit
I never have cash anymore, so no.
rich2083@reddit
Who actually carries physical money to give anymore?
aintbrokeDL@reddit
No, my understanding is that generally there's an bed available for every homeless person on the street. The only thing is most are not allowed into a shelter if they're high/drunk or consume any while there. This was told to be by a reliable source who was doing work for a homeless charity when they found out. I tend to believe it's true.
Obviously there are some who are just unaware of this fact because they're young, not a native speaker or they're new to being on the streets.
Generally when we see homeless stats these days they're including people who have no fixed address which is basically couch surfing.
There are sadly a lot of scam ones. Which is made worse when it's often the people who can't afford to give much who are likely to give the most out of sympathy because they're closer to the situation.
Ok-Cut-2730@reddit
There isn't, it can take months to get accomodation if you're male.
aintbrokeDL@reddit
From experience?
PersonalityTough6148@reddit
I usually ask if they'd like something from a shop nearby.
A couple of weeks ago a guy said he'd like a bacon sandwich and coffee from Greg's. Unfortunately the queue was massive and I needed to pick my kids up so I went back to him, explained and gave him a tenner.
More importantly though, I spoke to him. Asked him if he was ok. He said he had been robbed last night and beaten up. His wrist looked broken. I said he should go to get his wrist look at... He said he wasn't important. I said he was.
Then he cried. I asked if he wanted a hug. He said yes. And cried some more.
We talked a bit longer. He kept telling me to get my kids and keep the money for them. I didn't take it back. He needed it more than I did in that moment.
You don't have to give homeless people money. Just speak to them. Treat them like human beings. That will probably mean more to them because most people ignore them or treat them like dirt. I shouldn't have to say it but they are humans too.
Loose_Weekend5295@reddit
No, last time I was in the UK (I live in Australia now), I noticed there were a few men living rough near Sainsbury's in Huddersfield. They'd sit near the entrance and were quiet and polite. I'd ask if they needed anything, they'd reply (for example) a coffee and a biscuit so I'd buy a Starbucks coffee and a packet of chocolate digestives. I generally don't carry cash but am happy to add a couple of items to my own shopping.
risingpostsupporter@reddit
I never give money but will buy food and drink if they want it
steveakacrush@reddit
I generally don't carry cash but will get a homeless person a coffee and something to eat.
Vectis01983@reddit
Yeah, saw a woman do that once. She gave a 'homeless' person a sandwich (the wrapped, sealed sort from meal deals). He thanked her, then dropped it in a nearby bin after she'd walked off.
Substantial_Home_931@reddit
That’s so strange to me idk why someone would say no to free food unless it’s against their religious or ethical beliefs
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
They generally get given a lot of food.
Food isn’t what they want.
Substantial_Home_931@reddit
That makes sense, that’s why I always ask (if I don’t have cash) I feel like just assuming is strange tbh
Delicious-Cut-7911@reddit
I know a couple who had a home but they would go to town with a sleeping bag and beg in a doorway for drug money. They were too clean and had clean hair to be believable.
Azules_Blues@reddit
Not casting any doubt on this story at all because that does happen. But on the last point about being clean and so on. I'd recommend volunteering at a homeless charity and you'll see all types of people that you would walk straight past in the street and have no idea they were homeless.
There are places / charities that supply showers, clean clothes, hygiene products and so on.
The stereotypical homeless person that looks the way you are thinking are the ones who for one reason or another do not attend these services. Most of the people I assisted did not look like this at all.
Experiment62693@reddit
No, I was always taught not to give homeless people money, but to give them food, if you give them food at least you know the money is going on food and not other things, if they don't want to accept the food then that's on them, if they are genuinely that hungry, or genuinely homeless they would accept the food, you can ask them what they want
CupcakeIntelligent32@reddit
May sound bad but no, but I will offer to buy them food, water, if they have a pet I try to always g wet then food for the animal, if I have the money. I'm struggling myself, and I'm not saying they all are, but a good portion of the homeless people in town are drug users and I don't want my money going towards damaging that individual more.
seven-cents@reddit
I gave £50 to a heroin addict yesterday knowing that he'd spend it on heroin.
The dude was in agony, and better to ease his pain for a couple of days rather than him assaulting someone or breaking in somewhere to steal money to feed his addiction.
I don't do this as a general rule, but he was in a terrible state. It's incredibly sad.
BananaHairFood@reddit
That was really nice of you.
I used to, but then I had some unpleasant experiences so I stopped and I hate that I have. I generally don’t carry cash anymore either.
Panda487@reddit
I used to always give money to a beggar outside my local Tesco, I felt terrible for him. He was always showing me new wounds where someone had cycled over him as he slept on the street and it had got infected or he’d been attacked by a random passer by. Winter came, I felt generous one day, I gave him £20. The next few days it was bitterly cold, blizzards, snow, I looked for him at the Tesco every day and he never showed. I became concerned and asked inside if anyone knew if he was ok, I was informed he wasn’t homeless at all. In fact, he lived just up the road.
Another time I was out with my mum and a homeless approached her for money, aggressively, she ignored him and he followed her - I stepped in.
I don’t give to homeless people anymore.
BananaHairFood@reddit
Fuck, man. That was so lovely of you, too. It’s nice to know there’s some genuinely really nice people out in the world. Sorry it got taken advantage of.
SlaggaMaffa269@reddit
I remember at uni a guy coming up to us and asking for change. We all had cards and instead gave him a bottle of cheap echo falls.
He was happy as Larry. I said it "cut out the middle " he said "yeah cheers" He opened it up as we walked away. Other than that though I never carry cash no not really. I donate to charity already.
SceneDifferent1041@reddit
I used to but the more I read into it, the more I think giving them money only stops them seeking the right help .
fataldisposition@reddit
Yes . Absolutely . People genuinely need help out here. I’m willing to risk it for that 1 good person who needs it. Life is so so so hard, being generous however ; is not
s4turn2k02@reddit
Only 1, up in Lancaster. He was legitimately homeless, I was (well, still am) a student there, we would see him asleep in doorways with his dog, I’d always pick him up a burger or whatever and some kebab meat for the dog (if I was sober enough to remember lol). His dog was elderly and had cancer.
Technically I only gave him money once, and it was an accident. Was heading to the bud after getting a tattoo, his dog came up to me. He said he didn’t want money, just something to eat. I was going to miss the bus so I said to keep it, he ended up going to Greggs. Now if i see him I’ll grab him a meal deal and a hot drink, no cash
I was away from uni for this year but I’m pretty sure he’s not on the streets anymore from what I’ve heard. I’m not the only one that looks out for him. He seems genuine, I was an 18 year old girl when I first met him, never felt uncomfortable around him, never threatened or taken advantage off, and trust me I’d know, I come from a very rough area
trainpk85@reddit
I always ask them if they want food and then use a 10 or 20 note and give them the change that is left over from paying. If they don’t want food and just want money then they tend to say no thanks and they end up with nothing.
littleyellowdiary@reddit
If I am going into a supermarket I sometimes get someone a meal deal, and dog food if they have a dog (and there are ringpull cans in the shop). If I see a woman I sometimes get a packet of sanitary pads too. But admittedly not every time.
MrLangfordG@reddit
No.
Got a few family members who are homeless and on the streets, with complex drug problems. Can't stress enough how strangers enabling their lifestyle pisses me off. Both want to get clean and the resources are largely there (despite what people have you believe). However, when they can get money through begging/intimidating it means there is always an easy way out.
theProffPuzzleCode@reddit
I have the freephone number for the local council emergency accommodation, on speed dial. If I get asked I just offer to help put them in contact the the people that can get them off the streets. I'm genuine in the offer to get them help, and quite happy to exchange a pleasant conversation. There are all sorts of scammers out there though. I was approached by a lad early one night asking if I knew of any cheap b&b because his girlfriend had thrown him out. Had no money or phone he said. So I offered to call the emergency accommodation line or walk him to the homeless hostel just 500m away. He turned down both. Was it a scam? I don't know, but I will always stop and listen and try to help, whilst holding onto my own hard earned money. I buy the big issue, but I stopped giving money to people begging.
Vyvyansmum@reddit
I have done in the past but I don’t carry cash as a rule as I pay for stuff with my phone or card .
xNandorTheRelentless@reddit
The amount of times I’ve been asked for money so I’ve offered them food or a drink and they’ve said no thanks can I have money instead and when I say I don’t carry money theyve asked if I can just use a cash machine! Fuck off, if you’re actually homeless and need help you would accept food, water or toiletries. Id happily spend a tenner on what you need but I’m not giving you money
SmolKits@reddit
A lot of the ones around where I grew up were just beggars with homes so I don't. I did give a bottle of water to someone once and he told me to have a good Christmas and I just went "thanks you too" 💀
Pegasus2022@reddit
The only homeless person i give is a man called Bob who stays around the Tower of London and he is a ex veteran.
Bad_UsernameJoke94@reddit
Ex veteran?
dommiichan@reddit
ex veteran...so back on active duty? 🤣
Pegasus2022@reddit
Sorry meant ex military
EpicFishFingers@reddit
I used to all the time until I started recognising them.
I did wonder why they'd sleep in a doorway right in the city centre on a bus route instead of under a bridge on the outskirts or something, even when in pairs or groups...
I don't doubt they're without homes, but it's kind of irrelevant after it's been 5 years and it's the same guy approaching me on every night out asking for money for the bus or whatever. They are clearly professional beggars and have been homeless long enough to know that support exists for them, in thr form of charities that get more than the few quid I've got in my pocket at the time
DaZhuRou@reddit
I once had someone say they were homeless and ask for cash, I said I dont have cash, they said that's OK I carry a cardless cash machine..... who the fuck does that?
I was curious and when I looked at the amount it said £60.
Yea.... /no you're alright....
w1gglepvppy@reddit
I used to, but I feel like there's too many where I live now and I don't really like to be bothered by strangers when I walk down the street.
I usually make a donation to Crisis at christmas time so somebody gets a bed and a meal.
TimeInitial0@reddit
No i don't. Was thought from a young age by family members of a homeless person not to give money.food instead
mortstheonlyboyineed@reddit
Last time I gave a local homeless guy cash instead of food or a coffee behind the counter, he overdosed and almost died. It was near Christmas and I'd been helping him out with food and fag's for a couple of years by that point. He'd been sober for that whole period to my knowledge, so it being Christmas time I gave him a pouch of baccy, stuck a tenner behind the counter of our local cafe and gave him one in cash too. Next thing I know he disappeared for a couple of weeks. I had hoped he'd found shelter for the festive period but I later found out he was in hospital. I've not given money since. I'll always help with cigarettes, food, drinks, blankets, socks etc if I can but never money. The guilt I felt lasted a bloody long time.
MoistSnow220@reddit
No, but I'll offer to buy them food and a drink if I can
HydroBrit@reddit
They are asking for your permission to rob you. They will not spend it on food & drink or other essentials. They will buy drugs. Any homeless person will be accepted to a homeless shelter on the condition they do not abuse drugs. So if you see them on the street, odds are they are a drug addict, so giving them a tenner would in fact harm them. Spend the tenner on a meal deal to give them.
They know how you feel. They prey on your sympathy.
dahid@reddit
I used to but it's better to give them food/drink otherwise you don't know what they'll spend it on
Nyx_Necrodragon101@reddit
No, I'm way too jaded from seeing so many 'career homeless', being followed home. One time my husband let a guy who recently evicted stay in our spare room, all that was required was for him to get back on his feet. He spent the time drinking, smoking and I had to scream at him to get in the shower.
emotional-empath@reddit
No. Around here, there's a lot who pretend to go to their houses after a 'shift'. Charity starts at home. I help my family and friends first.
Agreeable-Dot-9598@reddit
Not as a rule, but if it's someone clearly shivering on the pavement or someone very young I will if I have accessible change.
zebra1923@reddit
No, mainly because I don’t know if they are homeless or a scammer, and also don’t want to feed an addiction. I help through giving to charity.
DatMakesMeASadPanda@reddit
I used to at university of all places - always had a bit of change after a Wednesday night out and would chat to them and give them a couple cigarettes as we spoke. Now I never have any change, if I did I would - but have had a couple say ‘well there’s a cash machine over there’. To me that’s too much - and they tend to the ones who are ruder and more persistent. Most recently someone asked me if I could get him a drink and I said yeah sure, he wanted a tin of gin and tonic. Was more than happy to brighten his day a little - I’d want a drink as well!
The_JimJam@reddit
Not anymore.
Give to charities, too many professional beggers
9182tlm@reddit
I always give money if I can and if I don’t have any on me I’ll sometimes go to an ATM. One time during the pandemic I got asked by three separate people in 10 minutes and shelled out probably £50. To be honest, I found that pretty overwhelming and I didn’t want to give that much… but they were all so hard up and obviously struggling I couldn’t refuse. Oh, and before I end this message. To the UK government and capitalism, FUCK YOU for all the harm and pain you’ve caused to the most vulnerable members of society. In a nation as wealthy and organised as the UK, no one should be sleeping rough.
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Would it not be better to ask what they need and buy that instead?
I’d be very uncomfortable with the possibility that the money I gave someone bought the drugs that killed them?
Possiblyreef@reddit
Yet here you are.
I give about £100 a month across 3 charities but I'm not just handing out £10-20 to randoms on the street
dopamiend86@reddit
No i dont give them money, id sonetimes grab an extra mcds brekki or sandwich meal deal and give it to a homekess person i pass in the morning but i never give them money. Do t want yo be helping to fund a habit.
I recently won a voucher for a local burrito place which i gave to a homeless girl, thinking she coukd get herself a nice burrito and a drink
somethingsnotok@reddit
If I have a spare quid or so in my pocket I will give it to them. So what if they spend it on drugs or whatever they want. I've lost a pound. I don't think any of them choose to be on drugs (if they are)
Massive_Badger265@reddit
If I can’t, I.e I don’t have any cash, I try to buy people drinks and nice food but always ask what they like coz imagine having nothing and someone giving you a minging horrible butty. Be soul destroying
Stitch9896@reddit
No, I’ll offer to buy them food and a drink if I can
Ilsluggo@reddit
I try to make it a point to carry a pound or two in case I’m asked - which in my neighborhood is almost certain. My thinking is that I’ve no way of knowing how the money will be spent, but what if this person really needs it for food, or shelter for the night, etc. My spare change will make a huge difference to them, and it makes absolutely no difference to me.
vorbika@reddit
The difference will be that they can either give it to their bosses who put them there in the first place, or they can buy booze or drugs quicker.
Any genuine person would ask for food.
Mysterious-Canary842@reddit
I usually buy or give food if I have any on me, I did get absolutely swindled by one not too long ago where I ended up paying far more than I was happy with. Has made me a bit more apprehensive, there’s one guy I regularly see when visiting a friend and I always make sure to get him some supplies
intenseskill@reddit
Most of the replies here are really wrong. People really have no clue.
5pudding@reddit
Yeah, a bit of change.
It makes not one shred of difference to me if they are genuine, "professional", or anything else
Dave8917@reddit
Nope as I don't know how their background they may deserve to be homeless or may not so I avoid being in that situation
vorbika@reddit
Not to most of them. Would buy some food if someone is genuinely asking for that. It's weird how many people don't recognise the organised homeless mafia though.
Aargh_a_ghost@reddit
Absolutely not, the only people on the streets of Edinburgh are the ones that don’t want to be put up in a hotel or bnb because they’re not allowed to drink or do drugs inside them, so no chance am I giving them money
intenseskill@reddit
Yeah I give to them. My wife say stuff like "they will probably use for drugs or alcohol" to which I reply "probably but they need to buy it somehow".
Being am ex alcoholic and drug user I know what it is like to go without. You need to get your fix sorted before you can even think about maybe getting food or other essentials.
If someone is homeless then who am I to tell someone not to buy the thing that might help them feel a little better about it for a while.
Important_Ad716@reddit
If they are outside a supermarket that I'm going into, I will offer to get them a meal deal. It's rare I carry change anymore.
_Maid3n_3ngland_@reddit
I don't go to work, pay taxes and then give to homeless people..
2Nothraki2Ded@reddit
Recently a homeless person asked me for some money. I apologised for not having any cash, he said he took contactless. I was shocked. The social contract had been broken.
WalnutWhipWilly@reddit
You’re best off volunteering for charities like St. Mungo’s to raise funds at train stations and places like that. Collecting money on behalf of a charity is so rewarding and it only costs you your time.
OkSecretary6272@reddit
When I was homeless, I didn't have time to beg I was out of grafting working my butt off
Doing any job I could find anything regardless of how awful the pay was
Most of the people sitting around begging are doing test for an income majority won't be homeless I also watched countless times people being picked up in luxury cars and mini buses that have what I assumed begged all day its a complete scam
taxbitch@reddit
As long as you're not giving someone money one time then preaching on Facebook about how you're so kind and everyone should do the same, I think you're good. Depends on the situation.
Me personally, if I have change I'll give them some. Particularly if it's a woman, as a few times I've had ladies ask me for sanitary products and I didn't ha e any on me.
BaseballFuryThurman@reddit
No. Regardless of whether or not I think it's a good idea, I genuinely do not have loose change in my pockets because who does these days? And if for whatever reason I did happen to have some on that day, it's certainly not enough to give to the 5-10 people a day that I walk past or get approached by (I work in a city centre).
Jazzberry81@reddit
No never. I buy food sometimes if they look hungry, but it's better to give to homeless charities than directly to the homeless because it could well be spent on things that make the situation worse. Homeless charities advise that you do not give money to individuals IME
SailorsGraves@reddit
If I have cash I do, or sometimes I get them something from a shop they're sat near.
lindsaychild@reddit
I do not. I don't carry money in my pockets and I try not to get my purse out in the street for any reason. I don't have cash on me most of the time anyway. I donate to charities that help and indirectly help displaced people so I try not to feel guilty.
FizzyLemonPaper@reddit
No. I don't carry cash, and I don't want to put myself in a position of being asked and followed to a cash point.
After some past experiences being accosted by homeless people who've been really aggressive to me (including being followed by and shouted at by two homeless men who thought I ignored them when they didn't hear me say hello back to them), I don't want to engage with strangers in the street at all.
cuppteaguv@reddit
I'll generally pop £5 to a homeless or foodbank charity, when I pass by a homeless person. The money is used much more efficiently that way.
App banks like Monzo make it super easy - they have a list of charities in their bank transfer menu.
postvolta@reddit
Nah it's pointless. Homeless people need help not enablement.
Ill-Appointment6494@reddit
I’ll buy them something to eat or a drink if I’ve got spare money.
But you acknowledged them and that makes a huge difference to someone living on the street. Most people just ignore them and walk by.
extinctionAD@reddit
I’ll sometimes them food or a drink instead if they’re outside a supermarket.
9 times out of 10 they’ll decline.
If they have a dog, I’ll offer to get some dentastix or something and to be fair, they do seem to accept these.
Substantial_Home_931@reddit
Not as much anymore but bc during the pandemic I stopped carrying cash for the most part. I’ve been homeless myself but not on the street. I offer to buy food of their choice 99% of the time. Even if they spend it on drugs I’d rather that than them getting it on tick or withdrawing in an unsafe environment eg outside
PM-ME-YOUR-DIGIMON@reddit
No I have to walk through a city centre to get to work and I get asked about 20 times each time I go. I physically do not have enough to support everybody who asks so I just say have to say no.
Sometimes I give out cigarettes or snacks but that’s it.
Jerico_Hill@reddit
When I feel like it yeah. I don't care if they're homeless or addicts. Bit of cash so they can sweeten their day is all fine with me.
I'm not interested in this argument that it prevents them from seeking help. That's bollocks and honestly really sanctimonious. People seek help when they're ready to, many are never ready.
If you can't afford to then you shouldn't. Don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm and all that.
AdFar9189@reddit
Sometimes depending on the individual but more often to people with obvious disabilities eg there's a man I see sometimes without arms who I give alms to!
RachaelBlonde@reddit
Yes as much as i can, i saw a homeless man at a set of traffic lights begging so i bibbed him to come over, as i wound the window down to give him a fiver i realised it was a girl she had a half shaven head and no teeth, it really upset me, i think about her a lot
Extreme-Football8335@reddit
I once gave a women my change it was a couple quid and I said that’s all I had. I then sat and talked to her for a bit and the fiver I was hiding blew out of my pocket and across the car park! I was mortified lol but she spotted it and told me and I wouldn’t have had a clue so I grabbed it and told her she could have it for her honesty. I said I was holding onto it to get bread and Milk (which was true) but she clearly needed it more than me.
Cara_Bina@reddit
I live below the poverty line in the USA, and literally cannot afford to do anything other than pay rent and bills. Here's something that my therapist told me, when I was cutting off a homeless man that I used to help: You are reacting to this as how you would feel if you were the one asking for money/food/etc.
The person asking is simply looking for a "mark", and absolutely will not dwell on you and your refusal, as they'll be looking for the next person to ask. Personally, when I gave money, I didn't care what they spent it on, as once I've given, it's no longer mine to be concerned about.
As to donating to homeless people, it actually isn't really that helpful. Your change will not change their lives massively, so if it is a cause you really feel strongly about, you'd be best getting involved by volunteering at a shelter/charity/etc. Of course, the homeless person will strongly disagree with that, because when you give, they get money, and you soothe your guilt by giving it, yet still you are worrying.
FWIW, I am facing/have faced homelessness, and have already had to ask for help moving, by throwing myself a fundraiser. The disability/low income housing I qualify for doesn't exist near me, so the next rent hike will be too much. I felt completely ashamed asking for help, when I have volunteered insane amounts of time to helping others. I like to say it's the remnants of a bourgeoise upbringing!
Good on you for caring, lovie, but boundaries are a life jacket for you.
SpinachnPotatoes@reddit
No.
I don't help anybody that comes to my home - because it took years to get rid of those that would scream and demand my MIL give them food and money when she thought she was being kind in helping them.
My husband has cousins that live on the street. Any money goes to drugs or alcohol.
hurricane_97@reddit
Never.
Occasionally I'll offer food, but they always decline, normally by swearing at me
BlackJackKetchum@reddit
I’m a cold-hearted bastard and ignore them. My wife will buy coffee and food for obviously hopeless cases, and always gets thanked profusely. I should probably do better.
Emergency-Aardvark-6@reddit
I had an awful situation, for me, outside Aldi. There was a homeless person outside. He didn't say anything when I went in but it was when I came out. I only had £40 in cash to get my food for 3 weeks. I have no money at all. I usually go to ASDA and do scan and go so I know how much I'm spending. This time I ended up feeling mortified when I got to the till and didn't have enough. I had to put the staff member out by asking them if they could get another colleague to put stuff back for me.
When I got out the man begged me for money. I was in a state and just wanted to hide. I ended up putting my shopping in my car that was running on fumes and giving him the £1 I keep for the trollies.
PastorParcel@reddit
If I can I usually buy them some food, and buy myself some food, and then sit and eat and chat with them.
I ask them how they came to be there, look up local churches with homeless programmes, and pray with them. If it's wet I might buy them an umbrella, if it's cold I might buy them a blanket.
Of course they're grateful for the food and the items, but mostly what people appreciate is being treated as people. Homeless people are often de-humanised and ignored, even giving them money is a way of ignoring them for many people, although I don't think that's the case for the OP.
I don't always have time, but I can usually spare a few minutes unless I have something truly urgent to do - I'd rather be late than be callous. Time is the most valuable commodity because you can't make more of it, so spending time with someone shows you care. I have spent quite a bit of time in volunteering in food banks, and people really want company as much as they want the food.
It doesn't preclude their need for food and shelter, so of course I try to address that too, but I figure I give money to charity and food to pets, but I give time to people.
WildCommunication582@reddit
Nope! I'm not funding their crack and alcohol habit! Can just afford mine..
Appropriate_Gur_2164@reddit
No, as someone said above, the charities who deal with homelessness advise against it.
I might grab an extra something if I’m heading in to say a Greggs and they ask, but otherwise I don’t bother.
There’s a host of charities helping in Manchester; handing out clothes, food, drink and support.
I’d rather donate to them directly.
ChillCommissar@reddit
I don't give money to anyone I don't t want to, period.
I've been at that stage, I never begged but I always gave a heartfelt thank you to anyone who gave of their own accord.
It does help, when used properly, but I can't bank on the kindness being reciprocated in to actually helping them and not hurting.
Solicitation and door to door can fuck right off.
HLAGM@reddit
Last time a homeless person asked me for money I gave all I had (about 20p as I mostly use my card and carry very little cash) and he threw the money on the floor as it wasn't as much as he would like. Worst part is that when he asked for money he showed me a 1p coin and explained he had just been given it by the last person he asked and would be grateful for any change I could spare.
theyknewit2@reddit
All the time.
Icy_Bit_403@reddit
I hate that feeling, so I'm a social worker now. It's morally divisive - some say it's dignifying to give money, and let people make choices with that money, whether it's sensible or not. Others point out that if someone is getting enough to live on from strangers, they won't work with services to get lasting help. Tax and services are out there, it shouldn't be falling to individuals on the street. No, it's not easy to get help. Pick your poison!
If you're struggling yourself, definitely do not feel guilty. You need to cover yourself first.
Giving to charities is a good idea as others have suggested, especially a small monthly donation because that helps them plan their services.
TankBenchpress@reddit
Maybe once every few months. I dont carry cash/coins and I know money will be likely used for alcohol/drugs. I’ll gladly buy some food from a shop if they want it.
durkheim98@reddit
The ones I know who've been round my area for years are all alkies. So I'll buy them a beer or two from the shop or give them so tobacco if I have any. I know their story from chatting to them, so I'm happy to make their day a little bit easier.
Not so much around the city centre. A lot of them are junkies who get pretty aggressive. The rest are pros with those, 'Plz I am very hungry' signs, they can get fucked.
BlakeC16@reddit
No, I sometimes used to years ago but a couple of things have changed. One is simply that I never really have cash on me any more now, but the other is specifically in my local area in recent years the group of homeless people are particularly aggressive.
There's a nice lady I sometimes buy The Big Issue from, though.
MRRichAllen1976@reddit
Nope.
I'm not being awful but some folk who claim to be Homeless are actually living it up in a 3 Bed Council House in a "Posh" area.
hollyyy16@reddit
No, but I genuinely never have cash on me to give anything. At least the homeless people I’ve spoken to tend to be more polite than the charity people who chase you with a card reader 🙄
Competitive-Ad-6306@reddit
No. I haven't carried cash since the pandemic. I give food and drink when I get vouchers or stuff on apps. If someone asks for a hot drink and I've got time/spare money I will pay. I could get cash from an ATM but I don't have a tenner to spare
whoops53@reddit
Not anymore, no....not since I got yelled at for it not being enough and thrown back at me
anonoaw@reddit
I never have cash, but if they ask I will buy them some food and drink.
Going-undergroundjam@reddit
No or charities … I regularly donate food to the food banks, as I know it gets to them and no ridiculous wages for the staff who work for the charities
imtheorangeycenter@reddit
Why do you think they are ridiculous wages? The are well known to be well below private sector.
People still need a roof over their heads, and cancer isn't cured by retired Jean who paid her mortgage off, has savings to pay the bills, and has time on her hands to kill. Nor poverty by Ron between helping out the grandkids with their first home.
LitmusPitmus@reddit
Nah but some of the locals who I see regularly and know aren't professional beggars I'll buy them food
beautybals@reddit
Yes I do
MollyPuddleDuck@reddit
Yes I do.
GlitchingGecko@reddit
No, but if they're outside a supermarket I ask if they need anything.
I've bought meal deals and a pair of gloves before.
SpookyPebble@reddit
No, I'd much rather buy them supplies that they need such as toiletries and food instead of giving them cash.
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