To Whomever Ran Over My Friend
Posted by Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 240 comments
I know you must be living with so much guilt and anxiety. So, if you ran over my friend on 635 near 30 June 28th around 1:30am, I want you to know she made it. She lived and is recovering.
jjson32490@reddit
Glad she made it! I was in a hurry and couldn’t stop to help but I’m glad it all worked out!!
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
I've been hit by a car on my bike and walking 4 times this year, three of which required hospitalization. All of which the driver took off and left me injured. Dallas has a serious fucking problem.
milkbather@reddit
I almost got obliterated on my way to work biking because some guy drove in the wrong lane to quickly make a left turn. His side door collidied with my front tire but he was moving so fast away and I hit my brakes just in time to be able to dodge the rest of the Jeep and pull up on the sidewalk. I’m a lucky son of a bitch; its scared me bad that I can’t go back on my bike without thinking about it. This city is a fucking nightmare. I’m sorry you’ve been through the worst of it.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
I'm telling you man, it's like the wild West out there! Stay safe homie.
Upbeat-Dish7299@reddit
Happens all over the country. Why I stopped walking and riding a bike in public. Been hit and ran literally hundreds of times in my life. Can count on one finger the times they stopped to check on me.
Theres no way in hell I’d even attempt it in Dallas. The lack of common sense and awareness in every resident is mind boggling. I really want to sit in some classes at the schools like how is every resident this much of an idiot?
battle98@reddit
Literally hundreds of times? This must be the most severe case of undiagnosed red-green color blindness in history
Upbeat-Dish7299@reddit
Yes. 30 years of riding down an extremely busy street multiple times a day and people don’t pay attention leaving parking lots. None were at traffic lights. They had stop signs and would run them trying to get in front of the oncoming traffic instead of waiting.
SLY0001@reddit
r/fuckcars This is why it is really important to attend local elections and meetings. Dallas has become very dangerous bc drivers have decided them getting to their destination is way more important than human life. It is time to attend meetings and pressure them to improve traffic calming measures and to make our city and communities safer and walkable. The whole reason why people have to depend on cars for everything is because of the carelessness of city leadership that has regulated and restricted our communities to the point where its impossible even want open a convenient store or any small business in neighborhood. Zoning has choked the housing market in Dallas for the sake of artificially inflating housing prices.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
This is very true, more participation is needed in local elections.
Guardian1015@reddit
More focus is needed on those items. Not neccesarily different council members.
jjmoreta@reddit
You need a helmet cam my friend.
Guardian1015@reddit
Great idea. Honestly everyone should have a dash camera too.
Hadrian98@reddit
Damn, I’d get on the sidewalk after the first one.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
Broooo, I was on the sidewalk for three of them. Crossing the crosswalk with the light telling me to go on the fourth!
Guardian1015@reddit
Hitting you in the sidewalk is near inexecusable. Vehicles need to stop there for you.
Have you reported these intersections to a city app? Looks like it's 311 app there. It's worth them being taken a look at.
Hadrian98@reddit
Oh damn!!!!
Guardian1015@reddit
I'm wondering what causes it? Visibility, roads themselves, ahole drivers. I would say only ride bikes on sidewalks, bike lanes if they exist, and at the parks. In the roadway is a big risk, idc what anyone says. I'm definitely not riding on streets at night or during rush hour or any street with limited corner visibility. I ride against oncoming traffic if I deem the street dangerous. One drunk driver or freak accident...it's over.
Wild they hit & ran. There are probably cameras everywhere.
happyreddithuman@reddit
Happened to me too. I agree with you. PD never even looked for the driver who hit me.
Tight-Physics2156@reddit
Maybe stay inside bro, this world ain’t meant for you 🤣 but in all seriousness fuck them for not stopping. Cowards.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
Really tests my faith in humanity for sure.
Call_Me_Desdenova@reddit
You’ve been hit by a car at a rate of once every two months this year? Where is this happening? Downtown, residential area, highway? Not trying to victim blame, but are you wearing headphones and/or not looking before crossing the road?
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
Not wearing headphones at all because i am not a dumb dumb. First time I was crossing the intersection at a crosswalk when the crosswalk sign said to walk yet for some reason someone decided that red meant go and they knocked me over and ran over my phone.
Second time I was riding on the sidewalk and someone pulled out in front of me because they were not looking and I broke my collarbone so bad I had to get a plate and ten screws put in to piece it back together.
Third time I was also riding my bike on the sidewalk and this guy pulled out of a gas station right into me and he admitted to me that he was looking underneath his seat and not paying attention. He did not have insurance and offered to buy me alcohol instead which I was like what. Have a herniated disc from that one.
And fourth time someone backed into me as I was walking in the trader joes parking lot. Was just strolling into the store. It was a super slow moving accident so I didn't really get hurt except for like a scrape on the knee.
So no, I was not willingly inviting chaos into my life. It just found its way there via shitty Dallas drivers
AeroWrench@reddit
You're riding on the sidewalk way too much. I ride 4-5000 miles a year, at least half of that on public roads, for 10+ years and have had a few close calls from distracted drivers or assholes, but never been injured by a driver. Ride in the street, get some good lights, and take the lane when you need to. People are not looking for pedestrians and people backing out of lots or driveways can't always see down the sidewalk.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
I never ride at night, but thank you for the advice. I'm just gonna not bike for a long while.
anonymousguy11234@reddit
Yeah at that rate I would question whether OP is somehow putting themselves in these situations, but I can also confirm that I’ve almost been hit several times despite my own hyper-vigilance. Ultimately, on account of our unsafe roads and dumb, unskilled, and/or mentally and emotionally unwell drivers, pedestrians really have to behave as though every driver is actively trying to kill you. It’s ridiculous and infuriating, but it’ll keep you alive and away from the ER.
boldjoy0050@reddit
Out of all the places I have lived, the driving here is the worst and there is absolutely no law enforcement on the roads to enforce the driving laws.
Sure_Information3603@reddit
Damn! After the first one I’d be wearing pants and a jacket fashioned out of Christmas lights. After another one I would wear a disco ball as a hat. And the 4th time I’d resign myself to being indoors.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
Seriously. I've pretty much given up on biking anywhere. I've gone through two bikes in the past 6 months....
Sure_Information3603@reddit
Hate to hear it
AbueloOdin@reddit
Believe it or not: those have been shown to have zero effect.
However, walking around with a brick and or large bat like you are going to hit the cars works really well!
strog91@reddit
But you never tried gluing lava lamps to your shoes
high_everyone@reddit
Road flares in each hand whilst juggling a flaming chainsaw...
noncongruent@reddit
Still not as attention-grabbing as that all-too-important text!
Sure_Information3603@reddit
Groovy idea!
Unicornbreadcrumbs@reddit
I live in victory park and I should theoretically be able to walk to work on a nice day. Tried it once- even when I had the pedestrian right of way and the walk sign was on I almost got hit 3 different times by cars just not looking for foot traffic. I drive and pay to park even though it’s a walkable distance bc the intersections are not worth the risk. Also saw a woman get hit by a car during lunch hour at the intersection of McKinney and Olive street- she had right of way as well and apparently the person just didn’t see her. It was very sad.
strog91@reddit
We need to get rid of the ridiculous tall hoods that are killing more and more people every year.
OnceMostFavored@reddit
The front of my property is a semi-circular driveway surrounded by raised garden, no lawn. When I finally waved goodbye to my 2000 F-150 after 340,000 miles, I ended up with a 2009 model. I still have to hang my head out of the goddamned window on the way out to make sure I don't clip bricks. I seriously feel like I've lost a quarter of my field of view. The newer dually flatbeds at work are even worse. If it's not five feet or taller, you're going to miss it. External cameras absolutely do not compensate for this.
redraider-102@reddit
Funny you should say that, because I drive a 2009 F-150 but drove a recent year model as a rental yesterday and today. The hood on that one was noticeably taller than the hood on mine. Pretty soon hoods will be taller than the windshields.
OnceMostFavored@reddit
It's a long way off, but it reminds me not to give up on that 1953 sitting in the field. The hood and fenders are so round and reasonable, even though it's an F-600.
BestUsernameLeft@reddit
I had the same problem until someone told me to fix my side mirrors. I still have to lean a bit if I want to see exactly where my rear tire is, but my only invisibility zone now when it comes to traffic is the giant-ass A pillars.
OnceMostFavored@reddit
It's a long bed (not what I was looking for, just the deal that landed in my lap). I can see the rear with the sideviews, but there's quite a stretch between here and there.
PomeloPepper@reddit
Years ago I started noticing that the roof of my small car was below the lower edge of the window on a Humvee. A few years after that it was below the window of a lot of trucks and SUVs. I ended up going for a Highlander when I replaced it, not just for the room but for safety and visibility.
I don't know about other cars, but my Toyota has pedestrian sensors and alarms on the front, even for child heights.
noncongruent@reddit
I used to drive a really low car, and the main thing I saw when I looked out my side windows was lugnuts and hubcaps. Seriously thought about building some sort of periscope for that car, lol.
trufus_for_youfus@reddit
I am an opponent of school buses and a proponent of school station wagons.
Times_Tide@reddit
yes - my work truck is a full-size chevy silverado and i was shocked at how much of my field of view i lost. crazy, and it’s not even the biggest truck on the market.
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
Right??!! These drivers are reckless!
NotYourLionheart@reddit
Let’s add foam brick stations
mwana@reddit
Also, I feel what makes it worse is the Doordash/Ubereats drivers double parking and forcing cars around, or stop in the intersections causing unusual driving lanes for rest of drivers.
AmbergrisAntiques@reddit
I would fault the obnoxious hustle culture of Dallas that makes everyone feel like everything is a dick measuring contest over door dash drivers.
PoyrazJones@reddit
I was getting hit yesterday also ong dallas drivers are stupid as hell
3lbsofjewelry@reddit
I wouldn't say they are stupid...I think the problem is entitlement and not paying attention outside of themselves.
trufus_for_youfus@reddit
I dunno buddy. Seems like there is a common denominator in these events.
suirad_z@reddit
Yeah I really want to be the type of person who walks or bikes everywhere but infrastructure/peoples attitudes when driving makes me feel so unsafe. I'm sorry that happened to you.
FujitsuPolycom@reddit
Uhhhhh
spicyramenplz@reddit
Please report unsafe intersections to the City of Dallas through their website via Dallas 311. The more reports = the more data they have to address these issues.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
I’m so sorry to hear that
Aggressive-Ad-5148@reddit
I feel this is a good time to remind people to stay in your car in situations like this unless the car is on fire.
Wait until help arrives that has emergency lights and can block a lane to provide more space before getting out of your car on a busy roadway. I’m glad your friend is recovering.
simba_thegreatest@reddit
Yep. Had a friend lose her life this way. Just last year actually.
Astarklife@reddit
Agreed it's also very dark at 1am depending on speed and how she was hit driver might of not had a clue. Still so sorry about the situation 🙏
atauridtx@reddit
Yup. Standing on the highway at 1:30am is by far the worst thing you could do in this situation. I see people in the day time doing it and even then I'm wondering wtf are these people thinking?
Barfignugen@reddit
When I got my license just over a couple decades ago, it was beat into my brain over and over and over that you always get out of your car and stand to the side. I was told repeatedly that the worst possible thing you can do is stay in your vehicle.
I’m not sure who spread this rumor so far and wide, or why it ever became the standard. (Probably the same people spreading the rumor to turn on your hazard lights on in heavy rain. In case you’re unaware- do NOT do this! It’s so dangerous!)
Standing outside of the car was preached to me by everyone from my teachers, to my peers, to members of law enforcement and first responders. So I can only imagine that the people who do this were taught that this is the safest way to wait for help, and simply don’t know any better.
kilk10001@reddit
Why are Hazards dangerous? I've been in a situation where I almost couldn't make out cars in front of me that didn't have their Hazards on. The cars that had them on were way more visible.
strog91@reddit
So, the Texas Department of Transportation? Because the Texas Department of Transportation encourages us to turn on our hazard lights when driving in low visibility conditions.
Or perhaps you’re referring to the Texas Department of Insurance? Because the Texas Department of Insurance also recommends turning on your hazard lights visibility is 1/4 mile or less.
Ah, you must be referring to the Texas Department of Public Safety. Because they also encourage us to use our hazard lights during bad weather.
Damn the Texas Department of Transportation, the Texas Department of Insurance, and the Texas Department of Public Safety! How dare they spread such dangerous misinformation!!
Ok-Activity-7565@reddit
Hazard lights usually flash all indicator lights on/off. Meaning there are periods of time (up to seconds) in which you are emitting no lights. So imagine your in fog and a person in front with a donut going half posted speed limit emerges from the fog exactly at the moment their lights cycle off, you'll have much less reaction time when they become visible again.
Barfignugen@reddit
Ho. Lee. Shit. What an unnecessarily aggressive response. This isn’t how I wanted to spend my lunch break but since you’re out here claiming I’m “spreading misinformation,” let’s get into it.
You’re right, I haven’t scoured each one of these websites to confirm what the official State of Texas opinion is. I’ll accept responsibility there. I was citing articles like this one from accuweather, and this Forbes article, this one from a law firm, or hell, even this Reddit post. Each one detailing specifically why this is an unsafe thing to do. I could list endless other sources, but I think these 4 are reliable enough.
Furthermore, and this is the funny part, you’re misquoting your own sources. Your first link from ToD mentions turning on headlights, there is nothing mentioned about hazard lights. Your second linkfrom TDI again mentions headlights, but nothing about hazard lights. It also goes as far as to specify to clearly use turn signals, which you cannot do if your hazards are on. Your third link, LOL, is an article from Houston detailing how it’s legal to drive with your hazards on. (So is taking photos of people without their consent and posting them to kink websites, but for the record I don’t agree with that either.) This article then goes on to say that in some other states, driving with your hazards on is illegal with a few exceptions, heavy rain not being one of them. Deductive reasoning would tell us that this is because it’s probably dangerous to do so!
If anyone else would like to attack my character today, please know what the fuck you’re talking about first.
Ok-Introduction-6952@reddit
In the first link it states that in cases of fog: "Turn on your lights, including your hazard lights. Use low beam headlights and fog lights if you have them. Do not use high beams."
In the second link it states that in cases of low visibility in fog: "Turn on emergency flashers. By turning on the flashers, vehicles are more visible to other drivers approaching from behind." I think emergency flashers are synonyms for hazard lights.
In the third link it states: "Here in Texas, using them [hazard lights] during inclement weather isn’t just allowed, DPS encourages it."
I am ambivalent to this issue, but I do not think u/strog91 was inaccurate with his statements. This is a thread for a Texas based city, and u/strog91 was, in my opinion, in his right for using them.
Barfignugen@reddit
Except that they were wrong. I never said heavy fog, I specifically said heavy rain and that’s what they were arguing against. In that case, every single source here is incorrect. They edited all their comments numerous times so you’re not even getting an accurate view of the original discussion. They were aggressive af and did not even come correct.
strog91@reddit
If you don’t like that turning on your hazards during low-visibility conditions is both legal and encouraged in Texas, you can write your state representative about changing the law and making it illegal.
But telling people on the internet that it’s “a rumor” that we’re supposed to do it is blatant misinformation. It’s literally what our government teaches us to do.
Barfignugen@reddit
So you’re just gonna ignore the fact that you can’t find any concrete evidence to back up your claim, but I have and somehow I’m still spreading rumors? How does that work?
strog91@reddit
🤡
Barfignugen@reddit
What is this? You’ve misquoted me and these sources so many times I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make right now
strog91@reddit
Okay your exact quote is “hazard lights aren’t mentioned anywhere in the context of severe weather.”
Barfignugen@reddit
That’s not an exact quote from me.
strog91@reddit
“I didn’t say that” when you said those exact words two comments up is a strange debate tactic indeed
Barfignugen@reddit
It’s easy to claim I’m wrong when you’ve edited all your comments 4 times each.
This is exhausting, I’m done with you. I came here to contribute to a conversation about ways to stay safe on the roads and it’s spiraled into whatever this is. I’m not that desperate for a fight. I don’t appreciate being misquoted or attacked but you’re not gonna let up on either of those fronts because it’s clear that you’re just desperate for a fight. And I just don’t have the energy for someone with this much free time on their hands.
strog91@reddit
You’re the one who said something untrue (“it’s a dangerous rumor that we’re supposed to turn on hazard lights during severe weather”) and kept doubling down on it again and again and again
You could’ve just said “oh I didn’t t realize that the Texas government encourages it” and moved on with your life. This whole exchange is just you being wrong and being too prideful to admit it and move on.
Barfignugen@reddit
There you go misquoting me again! It’s comical at this point.
Who gives a fuck if it’s encouraged by the Texas government?? They also encourage letting women die of sepsis over receiving life saving care - something else I don’t agree with. The discussion was never about legalities or encouragement. It was about safety. I cited several reputable stories backing my point up; if you wanna call that “doubling down” I can’t stop you but it’s quite a reach.
Above all, my end goal was to keep people safe on the roads and I don’t understand the desperation to argue against that. Unless you’re out here trying to get people hurt, I don’t get where any of this is coming from. It’s truly puzzling and it just makes me sad for you honestly.
strog91@reddit
Because you're telling people to do the opposite of what the Department of Public Safety is telling us to do
Barfignugen@reddit
Okay big dog
Barfignugen@reddit
There you go misquoting me again! lol. Who gives a fuck whether or not the state encourages it? They also encourage letting women die of sepsis instead of receiving life saving care - something else I don’t agree with. My point was never about whether or not it was “encouraged,” my point was about whether or not it’s safe.
The bottom line is it’s dangerous; if you want to call me providing hard evidence in the form of several articles “doubling down” I can’t stop you, but that is peak reaching.
strog91@reddit
You’re the one who said something untrue (“it’s a dangerous rumor that we’re supposed to turn on hazard lights during severe weather”) and kept doubling down on it again and again.
You could’ve just said “oh I didn’t t realize that the Texas government encourages it” and moved on with your life.
Barfignugen@reddit
I never said that. This isn’t me you’ve quoted.
strog91@reddit
Okay your exact quote is “hazard lights aren’t mentioned anywhere in the context of severe weather.”
You are apparently trying to argue that low visibility caused by fog needs hazard lights but low visibility caused by rain does not.
I am pushing back on that because it makes zero difference whether low visibility is caused by liquid water or gaseous water.
strog91@reddit
I’m sorry that you can’t find the words “hazard lights” in a two page article. I hope you’re able to fix the broken search function on your internet browser.
Barfignugen@reddit
I’m sorry you can’t take two seconds to confirm that the words “hazard lights” are actually in the sentence that’s relevant to the point you’re trying to make.
I hope you’re able to learn to read comprehensively so you can actually do proper research on this subject.
justmedavidc@reddit
I never get involved in these things but you are correct and I'd suggest let the AI clarify this haha ...btw I'd feel attacked as well you were simply offering wisdom: https://chatgpt.com/share/43be1908-fa81-4fba-a167-c253df81bf78
Quarks10@reddit
I don't think using chatGPT/AI is the most trustworthy source, and you basically always need to sanity check the accuracy due to the confidence it delivers answers with.
Using the same prompt but for fog instead of rain (
As far as the Hazard lights based on Texas law is it advised or not recommended to use them in fog?), chatGPT says hazards are not recommended for fog, but the TX Department of transportation linked above does say explicitlyTurn on your lights, including your hazard lightsnoncongruent@reddit
It's ironic that the chatgpt link says this:
justmedavidc@reddit
This isn’t so crazy, though. I have GPT-4.0, which pulls from multiple live sources updated via instant web access. I’m not disputing the state of Texas, where I was raised, which does mention everything stated above, especially driving with hazard lights on in heavy rain. However, from the perspective of the person I linked to for validation, it appears they are providing information that is largely considered the current accepted understanding.
To be honest, Texas isn’t going to update its driver education materials quickly. They aren’t known for rapid changes unless there is a financial or political gain. For instance, they can pass laws on new drugs like bath salts in days or find instant funding to ship the influx of illegal immigrants crossing the border to other states, yet the power grid’s deficiencies get tabled—despite knowing there’s a slight risk to public safety under the right circumstances. So, seeing a suggestion in educational literature or a state-approved course isn’t entirely surprising.
Forbes:
"In fact, many experts say if the rain or weather is bad enough to turn on hazard lights, then the driver should assume the conditions are too bad to continue driving. The American Automobile Association (AAA) is a credible source of driver safety information. They do not recommend the practice either. AAA also notes that the practice is illegal in many states. MotorBiscuit.com has a great article listing the states where driving with hazard lights flashing is illegal. Even if it is legal, many law enforcement and safety experts caution that it is not wise to do so in the rain."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2023/01/13/the-truth-about-driving-with-hazard-lights-flashing-during-bad-weather/
And this article interviews a state trooper in Austin MN sorry not Texas. They do however cover that while moving and everyone has their hazards on no one can identify who is the hazard vs everyone being in a hazard. Lastly many articles continue on to point out if a person has reached the point of putting on their hazards due to low visibility in rain the new widely accepted thinking is to pull over and stop entirely.
https://www.austindailyherald.com/2024/01/ask-a-trooper-drivers-can-use-hazard-lights-as-a-warning/
justmedavidc@reddit
Haha why did I even care about this you all are gentlemen and scholars and I tip my hat to you 🤠. I need to escape my reddit now.
Quarks10@reddit
Oh yeah, I was going to edit to say I don't know what actually is best practice (I personally wouldn't use hazards lights in those scenarios I don't think), just to have some skepticism when it comes to ML/AI generated responses
LongjumpingMusician2@reddit
You are awesome and I love your response.
lynnspelledlynn@reddit
It is a moving violation to turn on your hazard lights during a thunderstorm in Florida. I was so confused when I moved to Texas. 😕. I didn't know what to do and got lucky because thunderstorms aren't frequent here in Texas.
noncongruent@reddit
Yep, definitely perfectly legal here in Texas. No need to worry about getting a ticket for it since there's no law that the officer could cite on the ticket.
noncongruent@reddit
I think you're missing a bigger point. Under our system of laws most things are legal unless otherwise prohibited. There is nothing in the Texas Transportation Code that prohibits or even discourages using hazards while in motion. There is a law that requires turning them on when stopped in a roadway or on a shoulder, with some exceptions, that's 547.503, but it's not legally possible to construe this as meaning it's not legal to use them other circumstances, such as when in a low-visibility situation.
Here's a link to the Texas Transportation Code Chapter 547, feel free to explore it to confirm this for yourself.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/TN/htm/TN.547.htm
Here's Chapter 544 if you want to see if anything there applies:
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/TN/htm/TN.545.htm
Barfignugen@reddit
Sure, I agree with all of this and you’re not wrong. This point isn’t lost on me, but it’s also not the point I’m trying to make. Never anywhere did I claim it was illegal, only that it’s dangerous. Which I stand by. I’m not here to argue over legalities.
noncongruent@reddit
It seems you're presenting your opinion as fact. The law is pretty clear, and all of the Transportation Code is written from the POV of increasing safety. Me personally, I prefer law over opinions, if for no other reason than doing so brings consistency.
Dino_Juice_Extractor@reddit
Do you think every behavior that is dangerous is outlawed? The only original claim was that driving with your hazard lights on in rain is dangerous. No claims about legality were made.
Furthermore, if you are relying on there being a law to form any opinions, you must not have any opinions on an awful lot of subjects. What a bizarre mindset.
noncongruent@reddit
The claim that driving with hazards on isn't backed by any science, it's just an opinion.
Dino_Juice_Extractor@reddit
Ok, sure, but your assertion that the choice is either to refer to laws over opinion is illogical because there are many behaviors that are absolutely dangerous but not illegal (like smoking).
Where does your philosophy of relying on something being outlawed land you when some states outlaw it and others don't? Do you think that means it's not dangerous to do in Texas but is dangerous to do in say, Rhode Island, where it is illegal? (Source: https://www.ajc.com/news/national/using-hazard-lights-rain-illegal-some-states-use-could-cost-you/4GKuiHXYiiowRgq5CgPjLP/#)
We can agree to disagree on how dangerous the practice is, but your reliance on a law as the arbiter of truth is just totally illogical to me.
Barfignugen@reddit
Okie dokie, you have a nice day now
noncongruent@reddit
You too! And always feel free to respond back if you find any actual authoritative sources to back your opinions, I'm always open to learn new legitimate info!
Barfignugen@reddit
When the discussion actually hinges on whether or not something is legal, you got it!
Dino_Juice_Extractor@reddit
This is a ludicrous response. If you actually read the articles you post, they are all referring to fog, for which they give very specific instructions that do not apply during rain. I almost can't believe that you are doubling and tripling down on this post but then again it's Reddit.
strog91@reddit
Perhaps you're overdue for your annual eye exam? “Here in Texas, using them during inclement weather isn’t just allowed, DPS encourages it.” You must've missed that sentence.
TCBloo@reddit
None of those sources say to turn your hazard lights on in the rain. First two say to turn them on in the fog, but it's not mentioned in relation to rain. Last one says you won't get a ticket if you do turn your hazards on, but it never endorses or encourages it.
strog91@reddit
Last one says: “Here in Texas, using them during inclement weather isn’t just allowed, DPS encourages it.” Perhaps you missed that sentence.
noncongruent@reddit
You will never get a ticket for having your hazards on while driving because there's no law that actually prohibits that. The laws in place do imply they should be used whenever there are hazardous conditions in place that limit visibility. There is a law that requires turning them on when stopped in a roadway or shoulder, 547.503, but no law prohibits their use while in motion.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/TN/htm/TN.547.htm
Note that the fundamental Constitutional premise that this country's laws operate upon is that unless something is specifically illegal, it is legal, so implied laws or rules or laws that ought to exist but do not are not allowed here.
TCBloo@reddit
Again, nothing endorses or encourages using hazards in the rain.
noncongruent@reddit
Right, and the way laws work in this country is that unless something is specifically prohibited then it's legal. The Texas Transportation Code governs all aspects of driving in this state, and nowhere in there is a law that prohibits using hazards. That means people are given the choice how and when to use their hazards regardless of how someone else might feel about that.
Dino_Juice_Extractor@reddit
Why are you talking about legality? No one said it should be illegal or that it is illegal, only that it is dangerous, which it is.
noncongruent@reddit
Prove it.
HStave73@reddit
Please scroll back up near the top of this string, where u/Barfignugen provides numerous links to legal, meteorological and other sources that “prove it”.
TexasCivil@reddit
Civil engineer here. In times of low visibility you should use your hazard lights. It has saved me from rear ending someone before in extremely heavy rain. That person should not have been driving if their car was not safe to drive at 10mph… Roads are not a right and should not be used if you create an unsafe condition for other drivers.
People are right to get mad because people do not signal when their hazards are on. If your hazards are on, you are obligated to maintain your lane. If you must switch lanes, you must first turn off the hazard lights for a few seconds, then signal properly.
TexasCivil@reddit
Furthermore, everyone needs to stand behind their running car tonight and observe the flashing behavior of your car. Try the turn signal and the hazards. Make a friend and have them press the brake. If you don’t have dedicated turn signal lamps, people behind you may be unable to tell that you’re braking. This is very common, if this is your car your ignorance is going to get you 30 years of debilitating neck pain
Sea-Gate321@reddit
Wrong.
civil_beast@reddit
People just turn on their lights when it’s raining, and all it effectively does is prevent people from being aware of land changes.
If you are driving with your hazards on - PLEASE be in the right lane. PERIOD
SadBit8663@reddit
Everybody should be driving close to the same speed in inclement weather.
Some of y'all get pissed at the slightest inconvenience on the road and it shows
civil_beast@reddit
Even if that were the case, why then would we not all be in the right hand lane?
deja-roo@reddit
Honestly not sure what universe this would happen in since people have different ideas of what counts as "inclement" and different determinations of what the proper speed should be in inclement weather. And people's vehicles have much different capabilities of dealing with that weather.
Psychological_Mix969@reddit
The really dumb myth that I was told was if you get in even a minor accident to not move your vehicle so the police can "investigate". I still see people do this. If you get into a minor accident and your car can be moved, move out of the lane of traffic to exchange information. 99% of the time the police aren't "investigating". They make you exchange info then go on your way. Again this is for MINOR accidents.
blondebia@reddit
Years ago I was in a minor accident and moved my car to the first parking lot I saw on the road.
I got out of my car and was walking to the other car that stayed at the wreck and the cops were asking why I moved my car and acting like i ran from the scene. I always thought you were supposed to move the car if it's movable so I don't know why they acted like that.
Ok-Activity-7565@reddit
I've learned it's better to move a vehicle after a "fender bender" only if there is signage stating such. Usually expressways and interstates (most multi lane/high speed roadways have it posted if it has been determined remaining in path of traffic would be much more dangerous than in shoulder (as it would take only one late swerver to cause further damage.))
Also if you are ever approaching a crash or stopped/stalled/turning vehicle please, please, please be that person's potential lifesaver by slowly coming to a stop to ensure traffic behind you slows also.
*If you are the type to swerve last second putting everyone's life in front and behind you at risk, all because you can't be bothered with stopping, guess what? I (not so)secretly wish all the cars around you carry your loved ones. Not wishing anything happens to them, just that they're at risk due to your actions. That outcome is solely up to you. Now just think of that thought while approaching the next stopped vehicle in traffic. 🫂 Thank you! You just saved lives 🫡
djduni@reddit
Yup, in my mid-20s when I still thought I was invincible, I rammed into the rear end of a car just over a small elevation in the road that allowed for the situation inside my vehicle to distract me long enough to not see how much slower they were driving on the other side of that elevated bit and hit someone so hard their rear window just completely shattered and they accelerated into the car in front of them. They pulled over to the LEFT and stopped. I took in the scene. We were on a Texas highway, just past the part of the road where anybody who wasn’t paying attention for a split second would now be barreling 80MPH into the read end of MY stopped vehicle. I stopped only for long enough to get out, verify nobody was severely injured, that their cars were driveable and very sternly told both cars under no uncertain terms to exit the highway immediately and we could call police and exchange information there and luckily only minor argument over this but I won by saying if you want my information I’ll be over there off this goddamn death trap !
noncongruent@reddit
The one caveat now is that you should get lots of pictures before moving your car. I moved my car immediately after a crash and it cost me thousands of dollars in increased premiums and damage repair because even though the other person caused the crash I still got assigned liability. If I'd had pictures of where the cars were stopped after the crash I would have not be found at fault. This was before dashcams were a thing. I strongly recommend getting a dashcam, in Texas particularly because we're a proportional liability state so lying about your part in a crash can reward you with real money.
nacholibre0034@reddit
So you're pretty much saying that first responders and police who deal with this scenario all the time....are wrong? Gotcha.
Barfignugen@reddit
lol yeah man that’s exactly what I’m saying /s
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HIM_Darling@reddit
I always heard that if you can you should get out and away from the vehicle and roadway. To me that meant obviously if you can't safely exit or are in an area where you can't get away from the vehicle and road you should remain inside.
So if my car breaks down there's no traffic and its an easy walk across the shoulder to a denny's or a field or whatever then I going to go wait in the dennys for the tow truck. But if my car breaks down, there's no shoulder, and traffic is zooming by, I'm staying in the car with my seatbelt on so I at least have some protection if my car is hit.
DPblaster@reddit
Honestly depends on the situation and where you live. I would stay in my car here in Dallas. However, if you’re up north and involved in a car pileup due to icy weather, get out of your car as fast as you can. That 18 wheeler going 65-70 mph that can’t stop because of the ice will plow right through you and your car so it’s best to get out and get as far away from the car pileup as quick as you can.
MIrby214@reddit
In all fairness, a couple of decades ago people were driving a lot less distracted so to get out of the car was slightly less dangerous.
blackop@reddit
It's not the worst thing depending on where you are. But I would still suggest that if your vehicle stalls on say 635. Your best bet is still to get out of the vehicle and get yourself way off in the grass as far away as possible from the road. If this is not possible then yeah stay in your vehicle with seat belt on.
Over_Information9877@reddit
Standing on a highway outside of a car at night you are invisible.
nacholibre0034@reddit
How? It's common sense to get out of your car and get behind the barricades on the shoulder. Far from ur car. Why the hell would you want to be a sitting duck inside ur car with other cars and semis driving right next to u, hoping they don't crash into u?
atauridtx@reddit
Yeah no shit 😂 have you not read the post? OP's friend was standing on the road.... so they got ran over by some drunk person.
Swdannycactus@reddit
sitting in your car waiting for people to hit you in an all time crazy view.
find a safe place to wait.
RoundMedium@reddit
Especially 635
1987-2074@reddit
I’ve done some questionable activities in my day, one of the most dangerous was changing a tire on my truck on I-10 as you got into Houston in afternoon rush hour traffic. It was the rear passenger tire, or I would have made a call. It was white line, the shoulder with my truck, and then a concrete barrier. With people driving 60mph+ right next to me. Some people were honking, I guess to let me know I was an idiot, but I was already mid tire change, it wasn’t helpful.
I was younger, dumber, and was probably thinking I didn’t want to pay $ for something I could do myself in a timely manner.
LocalDFWRando@reddit
It was 1:30am, very little traffic. She should have got out of the car and off the highway and onto the grass. Do not stay in the car. Especially do not get out of the car and stand near your vehicle. Drunk people swerve into the shoulder all the time. Even if you are buckled in, getting rear ended in your parked car by a vehicle going 70mph will result in injury. You can call police for assistance.
cabbagestalk@reddit
What grass? I don’t think there is anything but concrete at the intersection. Nowhere to really pull over either. The construction has messed up that intersection.
WayneRooneysHairPlug@reddit
I disagree. Get out and get away from the interstate. If you are in your car and it gets hit, you can still get really fucked up.
Sockdrawer-confusion@reddit
I agree. Don't get out and stand near the car. Get out and move far away from the road.
Lycranis@reddit
Dallas in June 1:30 am, I wonder what the temperature was and I bet the car wasn't running the AC very well, staying in the car may have been wildly uncomfortable.
CatchIcy1011@reddit
My husband is a fireman for Dallas and said he has seen a lot of people get hit when getting out of their car on the highway to fix a tire etc. don’t do it. Bad odds for safety.
Sanchastayswoke@reddit
And stay buckled in, if you can!
JellyfishIcy9315@reddit
Glad your friend is alive and hope recovery goes well. As for the trash human who did this to her, just know that things always come full circle and karma will get them in the end.
No-Tadpole8163@reddit
Nah bro my bad please forgive me. I didn't do it but still forgive me
Big-Contribution-967@reddit
I almost hit a police car in the right lane of 635 traveling south near the construction zone near Nw highway. Luckily I swerved into the left lane where nobody was. I corrected before I knew it and somehow avoided a serious accident (my puppy was riding shotgun and would have probably been seriously injured if not killed. We were going 70mph. Very dangerous.
raycee74@reddit
Ev
Capital-Albatross-53@reddit
Idiots with flashers on driving 5 mph are more of a Hazzard than without them on.........it makes your brake lights and blinkers not work on some older vehicles. If you feel you need to drive so slow as to impede traffic then GET OFF THE HIGHWAY!!!
Alien-intercourse@reddit
My coworker, an older man was recently the victim of a hit in run in Dallas on 30, multiple people hit him and his body and did not stop and he was killed. I really don’t understand the not stopping and trying to help. If it’s an accident, it will be just that. Everyone is afraid of getting sued or fined these days.
Sanchastayswoke@reddit
If I hit ANYTHING living I stop to check. Cannot even fathom hitting a human and not stopping! Even if I didn’t have insurance or something & didn’t want to get in trouble. I have a very strong conscience & just could never ever! I could never live with myself afterward!
stvntckr@reddit
I hit a person walking in the street at 2am once, was just inside the lane in all black and I hit him while slowing down to turn. I stopped, called 911 etc and he just had a broken leg. No sort of anything ever on my record. The police did give him my phone number and he threatened to fight me like 10 times though. Fair enough
Guardian1015@reddit
That is one instance I can see people fleeing. At 2am....the guy may try to kill you. Never know what people are on or thinking. Probably best to stop call 911 & stay in vehicle, doors locked.
stvntckr@reddit
I mean I flung his ass like 20 feet onto the concrete he wasn’t able to do anything but moan so I felt safe
spookyscaryskeletal@reddit
I feel like this is my friend's brother -___- same thing happened to him but I can't remember what was actually broken. he's dumb like that too
stvntckr@reddit
It was on Crowley road in south forth worth lol
noncongruent@reddit
There's a strong movement to turn all accidental pedestrian/vehicle crashes into criminal matters and going after the drivers regardless of the circumstances. Sure, the driver will likely prevail in court but they're still going to be out tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and court costs. For most people that kind of unplanned expense is life-crippling, and that doesn't even include the civil lawsuit side of things.
trufus_for_youfus@reddit
So we want to punish people for the crime of not committing a crime?
Guardian1015@reddit
I'm 90% sure that persons agenda is to end vehicle usage because that'd be the end result.
Guardian1015@reddit
It already is in the crosswalks. I disagree elsewhere. Civil court is fine. Turning all of them into criminal acts will overly punish vehicle users & end up deterring vehicle usage at all. Also not to mention the high likelyhood of putting everyday joe's in jail.
29again@reddit
Wait, multiple people hit him? How? Was there low visibility or at night? That just seems odd, very very messed up, but odd, right?
Alien-intercourse@reddit
Yes it was was early in the morning(dark). After multiple hits apparently he had limbs detached. Just horrible to think about. But apparently there was a video that went around showing it.
29again@reddit
That's just awful. People are so desensitized. I can't believe nobody stopped. I can believe taking video and not aiding, but just flat out not stopping is disgusting. I've seen that happen and it thoroughly pissed me off.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
They never even got a call about my friend. Random officer found her body lying in the middle lane of 635. Very sad.
skinpeti@reddit
Whoever*
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
touché
ViscountDeVesci@reddit
Why are we walking around on a highway?! Stay in your car.
Guardian1015@reddit
You're right. Stay in there until a cop forms a blockade for you.
BoogerMcFarFetched@reddit
Driving on 635 at 1:30am is a bad idea, getting out of your car is even worse
pickyeater46@reddit
I believe it’s the law for drivers to move over when first responders are stopped on the shoulder /lane /street. If not law it is good common sense and courtesy. Nobody wants cars whizzing by at 50mph+ and there’s research clearly showing the causal relationship between parked vehicles (some with light bars) being an attractive disturbance to drivers and the drivers stare themselves right into the lights and vehicles. Far too many officers and other first responders are injured or worse because of inattentive drivers. We all own it.
I think if we’re all a bit after by being less hurried, less short tempered, less bothered by whoever cut you off or flipped you off, “less” (not zero) bothered by the POTUS CANDIDATE you won’t vote for - it all leaves a bit more peace and rational thought which leads to rational behaviour and hopefully fewer people at risk of preventable injury.
GarLandiar@reddit
635 is so dangerous. I'm so sorry this awful person hit your friend. I wish her a speedy recovery 🙏
Sensitive_Jackfruit5@reddit
Not all the details are exactly correct..but I think I am the officer that found her laying in the road that night. Stayed there with her and did what I could until the ambulance got there. I never knew what happened to her. I’m so glad to hear that she is going to be ok. I’ve thought about her a lot since then.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
With all of the brain damage some things are cloudy for her as well. Her recovery has been tough. Can you DM me on Reddit?
DELICIOUS_FETUS@reddit
Thankful your friend is making it.
I swear, Dallas folks drive as though they want to kill others. I often fantasize about tossing a brick out of my window at the vehicles doing 120 mph while passing within an inch of my door.
Furrealyo@reddit
Was your friend walking on 635 at 1:30am? Bicycle? Car? We need deets.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
Her car broke down and she was standing beside it waiting on help. They hit her and her car.
Local_Anything191@reddit
Standing beside it…where? In the middle of the freeway? I sure hope she isn’t that dumb. Even if she pulled off onto the shoulder, she should stay some feet away/start walking safely some way to get off the freeway
Furrealyo@reddit
Uggg that’s terrible! Glad she made it.
warrior4SoM@reddit
Who was coming to help her
peachole@reddit
Im really glad she made it but damn. Im losing faith in humanity
Emotional_River1291@reddit
There’s no humanity anymore. Few people do, most are monsters wearing the human skin.
Local_Anything191@reddit
Alright granny it’s time to get off Reddit and go touch some grass
RoyalAlkebulan@reddit
This is sad…my friend Willie Chad Allen didn’t make it from whoever hit & ran him over in Fort Worth. 😔😢🥺 I hope she gets the justice she deserves.
SLY0001@reddit
r/fuckcars
Upbeat-Natural-7120@reddit
What's the context here? It sounds like there's more to this story than originally disclosed.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
A person was hit, I want her hitter to know she made it.
CITRIX13@reddit
Hitter - a person who hits a ball with a bat, racket, stick, etc., to score runs or points in a game."I was a pretty good hitter in baseball."
Electrical-Help9403@reddit
Horrible! Prayers for your friend.
Tumper@reddit
I’m sorry for the pain and heartache this has brought to you, the families involved and the victim. My friend was killed in a hit and run and they never found the person. Around the same place and time. RIP Jahani.
I hope you can find peace and solace.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
The officer told us there were 3 similar accidents same night and area and she’s the only one who lived.
AdComfortable5846@reddit
I’m so, so sorry this happened, and I’m relieved to know that your friend is alive. I hope this weighs on that person’s conscience for the rest of their life. My grandpa was actually hit by a car as well when he was only in his 30s. It took 3 hours for someone to call the cops as he laid there bleeding out because it had been early in the morning when he had gotten hit. He ended up in a coma for many months, but he somehow made it. It didn’t come without long-term complications, but he was still somehow able to live a happy life afterwards. I wish the same for your friend and even more.🩵
Tiny_Dog_8764@reddit
The person you're mad at can't read english.
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Top_Science5897@reddit
Omg so scary. People in Dallas drive like psychos I love going on walks but I’m scared since the drivers here are so inconsiderate.
Upbeat-Natural-7120@reddit
I don't think it's like drivers will chase you down on the sidewalk.
LiopleurodonMagic@reddit
I’m happy to hear she pulled through. I had a friend hit in Dallas after midnight in a similar situation who did not make it.
firetomherman@reddit
I run on the sidewalk on skillman in between southwestern and lovers lane. A truck this morning was FLYING and weaving in and out of lanes. This is my fear. That some micropenis idiot in a hurry ends up getting out of control and hits one of us.
Kalibos40@reddit
Yeah, I saw a flappy vagged idiot doing this same thing this morning. She was weaving in and out of traffic while on her phone. Except she managed to rear end the only cop I've seen all year. I stopped to give him my dash cam while she sat there crying about how it wasn't her fault.
bionicbrady@reddit
I tried to run her over but I missed.
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Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
Must not be talking about the same person. This guy didn’t miss.
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130AM
Quirkybeaver@reddit
Whoever ran over your friend is not on this subreddit
bwh1986@reddit
How do you know? You think they'd actually reply? lol
Quirkybeaver@reddit
Lets run some numbers:
~423,000 members of /r/Dallas, currently only 146 people viewing the page.
Even assuming 25% of members viewed this post (which is a stretch), that's still only 105,750 out of 4,373,250 residents over the age of 18 of the greater DFW area.
This comes out to a 2.42% chance whoever driving reads this post.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
So there’s a chance? What if you add in anyone they may have told like a family member or close friend?
Gabagoolgoomba@reddit
Are you an orb consultant? They very well could be
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
Maybe not
Objective_Dot_406@reddit
That’s fucking awful. A good law firm might take her case if she has uninsured motorist coverage on her personal vehicle. Might be worth a shot.
EDsandwhich@reddit
Uninsured coverage is an absolute must around here.
squirrelnutcase@reddit
I wouldn't be walking 635. Ill be close to the wall as much, those cars passing by like crazy. Have my Hazzard lights turn on too
Witty_Yogurt_2385@reddit
It was me😪 I had some wings on the grill and was in rush
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Wat504@reddit
😭🤣
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Fun-Dragonfruit4622@reddit
That is awful. The officer that was killed on his motorcycle and the audacity to flee is beyond me. I’m not sure if they found the man/ woman. It was all very tragic; his wife driving behind him and witnessing it on top. They named that part of 635 by 20 Memorial Highway for him.
I know tragedy. My sisters and son died so. It is an unimaginable pain until you experience it and then it is unexplainable how to express fully your feelings. Especially when the ones responsible take no responsibility or have remorse.
Suspicious_Match6416@reddit
Holy shit. Thank you whoever stopped to help her. My husband was hit in a hit and run and would have died if another person didn’t come along and save him. Thank you whoever stopped to help!!!
Paffles16@reddit
Did your friend catch any information that would help identify the fuckers?
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately no. It was so dark and she didn’t see it coming. Also with 635 under construction there were no cameras in that area
Paffles16@reddit
How awful. I sure hope the thought of leaving someone injured eats them alive for the rest of their lives.
zakats@reddit
Sorry to hear about your friend, the scumbag that ran away instead of helping deserves jail time.
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With that said: save some blame for the TXDOT and other transportation planners who created this system that depends so heavily upon car transportation. Situations like this will never stop happening until we minimize our dependence on cars.
strog91@reddit
So, the Texas Department of Transportation? Because the Texas Department of Transportation encourages us to turn on our hazard lights when driving in low visibility conditions.
Or perhaps you’re referring to the Texas Department of Insurance? Because the Texas Department of Insurance also recommends turning on your hazard lights visibility is 1/4 mile or less.
Ah, you must be referring to the Texas Department of Public Safety. Because they also encourage us to use our hazard lights during bad weather.
Damn the Texas Department of Transportation, the Texas Department of Insurance, and the Texas Department of Public Safety! How dare they spread such dangerous misinformation!!
root_at_localhost@reddit
Maybe don't stand in the middle of a road at night?
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congoasapenalty@reddit
I read some of your other comments and am kinda interested in how your brain works... You seem like the kinda person that could put together an entire 747 from memory but puts deodorant on the outside of your shirt and you cut your spaghetti with a steak knife.
root_at_localhost@reddit
:shrug: I put my deodorant directly on my armpit, the spaghetti is a possibly if it has meatballs im probably using a steak knife on it
Moedxbuae@reddit
Can i send her chocolate?
ts10087656@reddit
I’ll get her next time 😤
(Jokes jokes, glad she is recovering)
Cansum1helpme@reddit
I’ve driven race cars and go karts and UNLESS the car is on FIRE- stay in the CAR!
Mrbeatmaker@reddit
Was that on the news? Sorry to hear that. 635 is a hell highway
Majestic_Ad_2030@reddit
Glad your friend pulled through. Let this be a lesson to everyone to pull over to the emergency lane when your car breaks down…not in the middle of the road way. Common sense.
Runs_With_Scissors11@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately there isn’t an emergency lane where she was. She was pulled over and far as she could. She wasn’t standing in the middle of the road but thank you for your reminder.
Majestic_Ad_2030@reddit
Praying for your friend & wishing for a full speedy recovery. The world fucking sucks!
millenialofreddit@reddit
I’m so glad your friend is recovering and sad that the person that hit her didn’t even stop to call for help.
Few_Ad_7572@reddit
Damn that’s terrible. 😞 glad she pulled through. We’ve all lost people to senseless and cruel things. Glad she is not lost
oilmoney322@reddit
Evil people out there
JoshS1@reddit
... but you're still an ass hole.