What are some DON'Ts that international students should be aware of when coming to the UK?
Posted by Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit | AskABrit | View on Reddit | 231 comments
Recently there has been lots of news on immigrants, international students and such. While many are respectful and understanding to the British culture, some are clueless.
Therefore, what should one do to assimilate into the culture and not standout as annoying or be on the recieving end of a tut?
Reasonable_OnionUK@reddit
Don’t forget your umbrella
Dio55@reddit
The more someone likes you the more they take the Mickey out of you, don’t be offended
Conversely if they are ridiculously polite, they detest you
Inevitable-Height851@reddit
Don't speak loudly in public. When you're speaking in public, lower your tone of voice to indicate to the people around you that you're sensitive to their needs also.
NEVER jump a queue (never 'cut in line' is what Americans would say). British people love queuing for things. Wait patiently in the queue for your turn, and do not ask other people in the queue if you can go in front of them.
Don't expect British people to be overly friendly and helpful. In London it's very unusual to talk to strangers in public, but around the rest of the country people tend to be more relaxed and friendly.
'Y'alright?' Is a common greeting used by Brits. If it's a short encounter, you can just say 'y'alright?' Back. If it's a longer and more personal encounter you can say, 'yeah, you?' Sometimes a British person says it to mean they are genuinely asking after your wellbeing, to which the response might be, 'I'm alright thanks, and you?'
'Not bad' means okay or a bit good. So if someone says, 'not bad thanks' when you ask them how they are they're basically saying everything fine, and they're not currently experiencing srong emotions or events. '
yaolin_guai@reddit
I hate queing lol, where does this stereotype come from
Blackjack_Davy@reddit
Queuing comes from WW2 everything was rationed everyone had to wait their turn for what little was available anyone trying to jump the queue got short shrift
yaolin_guai@reddit
Yeh but saying brits enjoy it is a wild reach
ColossusOfChoads@reddit
'Value it' would work better, IMO.
SoleBrexitBenefit@reddit
Brits love a system. Particularly a system that means you don’t have to interact with others.
Queuing is a system that means you don’t have to push, jostle, cajole, charm or otherwise bargain your way to get what you came here for. You know you’ll get what you came here for, in the order you arrived - so you also know when you’ll get it. Without a word to others.
yaolin_guai@reddit
Yeah thats evidence that we support ques. Not that we make it our personality like a cup of tea.
Sounds like an American joke anyway, who tf enjoys queing, just cos i dont like ppl barging?
a_f_s-29@reddit
I hate waiting but I hate being pushed in front of even more. So respect for the queue is important
MunkTheMongol@reddit
Could I pay someone to take their place in line ?
MeanandEvil82@reddit
If they're immediately ahead of you, yes.
If others are between you and them, no.
TellMeItsN0tTrue@reddit
Londoners might not want to chat for no reason but if you need help they'll be just as helpful as anyone else in the UK.
EnterTheAurora@reddit
To elaborate on your last point, two of my favourite responses are:
‘Sunny side up’ ‘Living the dream’
Both typically mean the opposite
Impressive_Ad2794@reddit
"happy and smiling, having a lovely time"
EnterTheAurora@reddit
“Soon be Friday”
The_Flurr@reddit
I don't recall which one, but I'm reminded of a south Asian country where the standard greeting is "are you happy?" To which the answer is always "I'm happy", no matter your mood.
This led to them being ranked incredibly highly on some national happiness survey, due to somebody not doing their research.
pymbleresident@reddit
I went to the Home Counties as a foreigner and the old posh boomers were some of the friendliest and most outgoing people I’ve met
a_f_s-29@reddit
Oh those folks are some of the most fun to talk to sometimes. It’s 50/50, they’re either the most snobby or the most friendly people you’ll ever meet
SnooBooks1701@reddit
Especially in small villages, they're happy to sit and chat to you on buses and at bus stops
pymbleresident@reddit
I think this ‘British people are reserved’ stereotype is a bit too over exaggerated because imo it depends on location, when you’re up North so many folks are as outgoing as the Australians are
That_Northern_bloke@reddit
Generally rules 1) don't mention politics with stranger's, if it comes up in conversation, be as neutral as possible 2) don't expect to be cutsie Instagram aesthetic all the time, 14 years of austerity has decimated pretty much everything and you may be shocked at some of the levels of poverty 3) don't be afraid to explore away from the uni, this country is blessed with some gorgeous countryside and coastal areas
MerlinOfRed@reddit
I'll save you some time: - If, like most students, they're under 26, they were too young to vote in 2016. They don't like Brexit. - If they're 26-35 and still at university, they almost certainly voted Remain. They also don't like Brexit. - If they're a bit older but are in academia, they also almost definitely voted Remain. They also don't like Brexit - It has screwed them over more than you. Yes, you may have had to do extra paperwork to get to the UK. They have to do the exact same the other way, but for 26 countries. They are probably done talking about it.
yaolin_guai@reddit
Id categorise it better.
Those who understand that brexit was always gonna suck but the idea was to rebuild the country in a way that it would grow bigger than the UK in the EU. This is still possible but we have incompetent governments.
And those that believe it was never a good idea because it currently doesn't work. Despite the fact they have no idea why brexit was decided on in the first place.....
Ive tried understanding anti brexit folk but the case always is that they dont understand the full scope of whay brexit was supposed to be , one person even held views so naive that the UK should abandon all its local production industry in favour of importing food. I raise the point that this isn't a good idea when the country's we import from end up unable to meet our demands, due to a crisis or anything really.
The naivety around politics is wild. A lot of loud mouths yet little understanding of reality.
a_f_s-29@reddit
It’s not really possible. We rely on trade with the EU for our economy. It’s not really replaceable either without making things a lot more difficult for ourselves and massively lowering our standards for imports/income for exports. We made that a lot harder for ourselves. The only way to fix that is to rejoin the EU or to submit to EU trade agreements without having the decision making power we used to have in the EU.
yaolin_guai@reddit
What isn't possible sorry?
U do realise that we have the bargaining power to get better deals than what we had pre brexit but we have incompetent leaders.
N we hardly had much power in the EU considering they wrote our laws.....
Again yall just seem misinformed.
My first question tho, what isnt possible?
MythicalPurple@reddit
The UK had opt-outs for the majority of EU laws. More than any other country. Not to mention it also, of course, had the ability to vote on laws and treaties.
You sound like you’ve been swallowing Brexit propaganda and not realizing it.
yaolin_guai@reddit
Sorry but u dont know what yr on about.
The laws i refer to did not have an option to opt out.
So what yr saying is completely irrelevant.
If we had the option to OPT out of migration laws, and stuff to do with fishing than id totally agree with you.......
Guys can we stop this now because yr the 2nd person to try with their information yet you dont even understand the full context of it yourself :///
MythicalPurple@reddit
Name the laws.
Sarcastic_Solitaire@reddit
The economics of the smaller market of the UK Vs the much larger economy of the EU single market means we actually have less bargaining power both with non-EU and EU nations. The fact you say the EU wrote our laws shows you have very little to no understanding of how British law was written pre-brexit and how EU laws apply to member states.
fearthesp0rk@reddit
If you encounter someone who voted Leave, ridicule them brutally
largebumlady42@reddit
Don't look the wrong way at certain youths of today, they wouldn't think twice about beating you to a pulp, laughing about it. All caught on camera ready to be the next Tik-Tok. There ruthless nowadays
NeedleworkerBig3980@reddit
Having observed the annual influx of new international students to my nearest city for many years, here are some suggestions to help you survive the first week.
Grab a copy of The Highway Code. Yes, even if you plan walking everywhere. Being able to know which way cars are going to go, and who has right of way, will help you avoid getting run over.
Join a couple of Uni Societies to get to know people. Not just the ex-pat society for your home country (if they have one).
ALWAYS observed queue etiquette. No cutting unless someone invites you to.
Always thank the bus driver as you disembark.
MerlinOfRed@reddit
itsamberleafable@reddit
Maybe because I live in London but I’ve never seen the bus thing observed and a supermarket lane opening appears to be an invitation to charge into it at random.
Agree with the pub one, although there’s plenty of British people who don’t follow that.
PastorParcel@reddit
Ah yes, Londoners are a different breed. They're not polite to bus drivers, and they hate friendly conversation with strangers, but don't you dare stand on the left of an escalator or they'll beat you to death with a £12 sandwich.
a_f_s-29@reddit
In fairness to Londoners, they have strange impersonal buses where you exit from the middle or the back and don’t have the opportunity to properly thank the driver
doyathinkasaurus@reddit
When I get off from the middle of the bus, I have in the past hollered 'THANK YOU!!’ to the driver (who blatantly can't hear me). In the absence of which I invariably scurry forward to try and walk past the driver and flash the international sign for 'cheers mate' (ie the raised hand, which is also deployed when scurrying across a zebra crossing), such is the discomfort at exiting without saying thank you. (Londoner but Mancunian by birth)
hanjay09@reddit
The_Flurr@reddit
Unless you're a rude cunt, then you might slide back a few places - former bartender.
MeanandEvil82@reddit
And if the bar staff ever ask "who's next" either they are checking that people know, or have legitimately forgotten. Either way, if you know the next 3 people it's good to say "him, her, then me" or whichever order it is. Don't try to take advantage. You may find yourself suddenly dead last.
Slobbadobbavich@reddit
Also, ignore the revision about pedestrians having the right of way at junctions. Yes you do, but stop and wait anyway because many drivers don't care about this new rule and would accidentally run you over. Never trust a driver to give you any right of way.
fearthesp0rk@reddit
No, fuck that, walk into the road and derive glee from the annoyed entitled carbrain rage r/fuckcars
MrDilbert@reddit
How does that old saying go, "Cemeteries are full of people who had right of way".
Slobbadobbavich@reddit
A very good one!
barkley87@reddit
Unless you're in London.
Mx_cre8tivename@reddit
Even in London the drivers do still appreciate being thanked
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
I usually thank after any service I take upon. Would it be considered weird if I end up thanking the bus driver in London?
nyecamden@reddit
The thing with London buses is there is usually a separate exit away from the driver, so when you get off you can't really thank them in a non-annoying way. I thank bus drivers (in London) when I get on.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Oh I see. Wait so you enter and exit through different ways? How'd you greet while entering?
TellMeItsN0tTrue@reddit
The majority of buses in London have different entrance and exit, but the further out of central you go the more likely a bus with a single entrance and exit is. I tap my card on entry and say thanks. If on a different entrance/exit bus I'll put my hand up in the thanks gesture just before I get off. On a single entrance/exit I'll say thanks as I pass the driver.
DSi2407@reddit
I tend to just walk to the front of the bus and mouth thanks and nod, it must be brutal getting treated like a robot all day with no human interaction. (im from Leeds)
hanjay09@reddit
Buses are contactless in London and a fixed price. Just tap the yellow reader with a contactless card or oyster. You can say hello or thanks- but a chat will upset the horde of people trying to get on at the same time.
Shan-Chat@reddit
Edinburgh is similar. I usually thank the driver as I get on, and depending on the type of bus, as I get off.
I know in Cardiff that the locals wanted the new bus station to be on Cheers Drive. Sadly, it didn't happen.
Bethlizardbreath@reddit
In this case, you awkwardly shout “cheers” over your shoulder as you disembark. Not quite loudly enough for the driver to hear you past all the people.
Bonus points if it comes out a little strained and haunts you for the next ten minutes.
6_seasons_and_a_movi@reddit
Underrated comment, do you have any other gems of London wisdom?
nyecamden@reddit
Which is why I say cheers or thanks as a greeting. Efficient, performatively polite.
Vegetable-Set-9480@reddit
Because you can only enter a London bus from the front door, you thank the driver as you get ON the bus.
Party-Efficiency7718@reddit
In London you unthank them.
Queenkarax@reddit
if you do it in london before anyone has said it, for some reason people will start to automatically do other after you, fun to start the chain
NeedleworkerBig3980@reddit
This happens to me every time I visit London! It's hilarious.
knowledgeseeker999@reddit
Don't disrespect beans on toast 😤
tinybrainenthusiast@reddit
If you are a homophobe or anti-black, do NOT come here! Keep your prejudice to yourself and stay in your bigoted shithole.
PigeonSealMan@reddit
Don't criticise our food. We'd love to try yours (DO cook for us), but love ours more
zeldja@reddit
To add to this: DO try beans on toast before criticising it.
fearthesp0rk@reddit
Don't. It's fucking disgusting.
WodehouseWeatherwax@reddit
Nooo. I've lived my entire life with beans and with toast. They don't need to have unnatural congress to know that "that ain't right".
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
I'm really looking forward to trying beans! Cuz they ain't good in my home country.
Street_Abies_310@reddit
For the best beans on toast put cheddar on the toast and melt it under the grill, add a few shakes of Hendersons or Worcestershire sauce and then top with baked beans. It's a great lunch.
callmeeeow@reddit
This is the way
SilverellaUK@reddit
Lots of foreign students in Sheffield. Lots of Hendos in every supermarket.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Sounds like a scrumptious meal. Surely gonna try it out when i get there!!
SnooBooks1701@reddit
You'll fit right in
MunkTheMongol@reddit
Brits will love Mongolian food. It's equally bland
jimthewanderer@reddit
Do not confuse extruded junk food for the equivalent for restaurant made food from other countries.
If I have to explain that a curry from a curry house is not a fair comparanda with a microwaved pie one more time I might cut my own arms off.
yaolin_guai@reddit
Apparently our food sucks became its not full w spice....
Most asian food is crap msg anyway lol, the arrogance abiut it annoys me
a_f_s-29@reddit
The irony is that Brits absolutely love spicy food lol, much more than most Europeans who are celebrated for their cuisine
neverarriving@reddit
Also don't assume that dismal chain eateries (including most pub food) & late night takeaways are the sum total of our cuisine.
justameercat@reddit
Please don’t stop at the top or bottom of escalators, or exits. If you have to stop, move to the side.
Hatstand82@reddit
Also when stopping in the street - move to one side rather than stopping in the middle. And don’t stop in public doorways or near crossings.
web3monk@reddit
PLEEASE!!
OatlattesandWalkies@reddit
Someone stopped at the top of one when I was a kid…I fell back down past everyone due to my poor balance with dyspraxia. Cue a lifelong phobia of escalators.
MeanandEvil82@reddit
The lesson here should always be "if someone stood at the top of an escalator in front of you. Shove them forwards no matter who it is".
Sure, they may fall over, they may hurt themselves. But the chances of them getting seriously hurt are far lower than if you fall backwards.
If you're stupid enough to stop dead at the top of an escalator you deserve to wind up hurt from being knocked over.
InfertilityCasualty@reddit
Louder for the people in the back!!!!!!!!
MrDilbert@reddit
HE SAID DON'T BE AN ESCALATOR BUTTPLUG!
Goatmanification@reddit
If it's anything like the countless students I see doing this...
DON'T just stand at a crossing and wait for traffic to clear, just press the damn button, the lights change and the cars HAVE TO STOP FOR YOU.
twofacedcap@reddit
American here.... People.... Don't press the button??
CptnBrokenkey@reddit
I don't press the button. I'm saving the environment.
MeanandEvil82@reddit
There's actually certain junctions I don't bother pressing the button. And it'll be for two reasons.
I know the crossing well enough that I know traffic is light at that time of day, and so the gap will appear before the light changes anyway.
It's a fake button. Due to how the junction is set up traffic has to stop anyway and the button is just to make some people feel they did something.
hacktheripper@reddit
Yeah we don't get bullied by a toddler with a badge and fined/murdered if we just cross the road without a crossing.
Goatmanification@reddit
I live close to a university campus, there's a road that goes right through it with 3 light controlled crossings. Traffic sometimes gets busy on that road but the priority is ALWAYS the lights, e.g. Press the button and the lights will always immediately change. The amount of times I see a group of students stood just waiting for a gap in traffic waiting often minutes at a time until they either find a gap or someone else comes along and PRESSES THE BUTTON is insane.
Many_Current9890@reddit
Soton 🧐
MaleficentSwan0223@reddit
I’ve watched international students stand still at a pavement because the traffic in the road is at a red and then continue walking when the light goes green…. Traffic lights are for traffic.
Charlie11381@reddit
Do both if you're british
MasticatedBrain@reddit
This is the truth.
iamanalienin@reddit
Don’t spit in the street. It is quite common in some countries, but it is considered uncivilised and disgusting to do it here
Street_Abies_310@reddit
If people are queuing join the back. If you aren't sure ask if this is the queue for whatever.
Offer people a drink (tea/ coffee) when they come to visit. If you don't drink tea make sure you have a box of tea bags so you can make a drink for guests.
Most British people have no issue with people coming to study or to move here. Don't let the small group of racists put you off.
InternationalTwo767@reddit
Why is it racist to not want foreigners here?
a_f_s-29@reddit
Lmao. How is that not racist
InternationalTwo767@reddit
What race is a foreign person then? Haven't got anything against them. They just don't belong here and should go back to where they came from.
FinneyontheWing@reddit
Where are you from? And where do you live?
InternationalTwo767@reddit
Why would I tell you that.
FinneyontheWing@reddit
Because you're specifically saying 'here', and I was wondering where 'here' is, and if you've always been 'there'.
InternationalTwo767@reddit
You should know.
Astronaut_Striking@reddit
Could you explain why foreigners don't belong here?
InternationalTwo767@reddit
We don't want them here. The only reason the government turns a blind eye is because we don't have enough people being born to support the old.
Horrendous way to run a country, as you can see our decline as a society has begun.
Houses are unobtainable, crime is up, taxes are to high.
Multi culture is bad. Humans love segregation and do not benefit us.
UK is finished.
weedywet@reddit
Spot the racist.
FinneyontheWing@reddit
A lot of racists prefer to be called xenophobes. It's not caught on because the vast majority of them can't spell it.
PigeonSealMan@reddit
Gotta add another one - don't be afraid to ask for help - directions, how to get a bus/train - just be polite - most of us are very happy to help if you ask, but even if we see you struggling we're too polite to intervene in case we offend you. But we would rather explain how to buy a ticket than wait for you and watch you struggle
Vegetable-Set-9480@reddit
This! London people aren’t rude per se. They are in a rush.
Politely asking for directions usually results in them genuinely stopping and trying to help point you in the right the right direction.
Just don’t look like you’re asking for money or one of those charity sign up people.
I did have someone once kind of desperately say “excuse me?” In the street, but there was no immediate follow up with what they were tying to get my stein for. They just hoped I would stop and they sort of waited for me to stop walking..
The way she was so apologetic made me think she was just about to ask if I could spare some money.
So I didn’t stop walking, but continued to swivel my head to face her even as I walked past because I was still waiting for her to continue talking after she said “excuse me?”
She was like “oh, I’m so sorry?” And looked genuinely apologetic, as though she was concerned that she had offended me.
I was just about to ignore her completely and continue on, strides unbroken when she said: “It’s just that I can’t find [whatever street] do you know where it is?”
I felt bad for pre-judging, assuming she was asking for money, when in fact she was asking for directions to a nearby street. I was instantly happy to help her.
But the problem was, her body language, timidness, and slow timing in getting to the point of her request did nothing to convince a Londoner that she wasn’t about to ask for money.
So I would say, if you are in London, and need assistance in looking for an address or street or landmark or whatever, Londoners don’t like to be stopped by those professional charity people who blockade you into signing up to things, and they don’t like being asked for money.
But they are happy to help with directions if you make it clear and precise that’s what you’re asking for.
So a polite “hi, sorry to bother you for directions…I’m looking for the nearest [whatever it is you are looking for]…do you know where that is?” all in one, speedily verbalised, continuous sentence, you’ll get much more help than if your interruption is ambiguous…
PigeonSealMan@reddit
Yup, it's probably the same in most cities - I'm guilty of this too, I'll always assume the worst when someone approaches me - usually a charity, request for fags/cash. I've even had people ask for directions, then ask for bus fare which was a bit cheeky.
twofacedcap@reddit
Omg my first time in London, got off the plane, got to the train station and was so insanely overwhelmed I was on the verge of tears, could barely speak - asked the conductor (? Guy with speaker on platform) for help and he was SOOO nice it made me feel so much better 🥹 I expected a bit more coldness, im from Seattle area, I guess our cultures are similar because I felt right at home. I'm polite to you, you're probably polite back, and if you're not, then I'm not pushing a conversation. Can't wait to go back someday
a_f_s-29@reddit
Staff in places like stations and shops and so on are usually very friendly and helpful. Once my phone died just as I was about to pay at the till in Tesco, and seeing how stressed I was the lady let me sit down while I charged my phone with a charger she lent me (she moved all my groceries to one side until I could come back and pay). It was a small gesture but she saved me from a stressful situation. And that’s honestly just one example.
On the day my grandfather died I was in my university town and got a text from my family to come home as soon as possible (he had taken a turn for the worse and they knew what was coming, but also wanted to break the news at home). I had to take several buses and trains and that journey was a complete blur because I was in such a rough emotional state, but what I remember really clearly was on both buses I took, a complete stranger offered me their ticket. I wasn’t visibly crying or anything, and it’s not like that happens often, but it felt a bit like the universe was aligning to make the journey as easy for me as possible. I’m still grateful for those strangers.
Basically I just love the people here. Most people you encounter are good, kind, and very funny. Even in London there’s a lot of warmth between strangers if you know how to interact in a way that doesn’t get people’s guard up.
SnooBooks1701@reddit
Conductor drives the train, the chap on the speaker is a member of the station staff
SilverellaUK@reddit
I know they're always short staffed but the driver drives the train. The conductor checks tickets.
cookiesandginge@reddit
Don’t boil stinky fish in a communal kitchen for breakfast
Theal12@reddit
Western women are not all sexually available to you. It doesn’t matter how they dress. No matter what you have been told at home. Be polite, respectful and realize if you try and force yourself on a woman you may end up face down in the gutter and be arrested.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Offcourse. A woman isn't defined by what piece of clothing she wears. They have complete freedom of expression and I have my utmost respect for women. Not even in my dreams would I ever try to force myself onto anyone.
Thanks for your concern though, it is quite a problem with lotta people, sadly.
Theal12@reddit
This wasn’t directed at you but the general question of DON’T for international students. The fact that you ask shows you will have, I hope a wonderful experience
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I got the intent of the comment. And yes, thank you so much for your words of encouragement!!
Hope you have a great time ahead. Cheers!!
PresentationEither19@reddit
Don’t let ne’er-do-wells lull you into debates on whether a Jaffa Cake is a cake or a biscuit. A derisive side-step to a Hobnob will end the debate civilly.
Nondv@reddit
it's a biscuit you 🛎️end
MeanandEvil82@reddit
You are legally wrong.
Nondv@reddit
🔪🔪🔪
daveysprockett@reddit
Uncovered, milk or plain chocolate?
Oghamstoner@reddit
Just don’t mention scones. Or scones.
Shan-Chat@reddit
It's called Scone, and it's in Perthshire.
TrashLow6862@reddit
The pronunciation of the place in Perthshire rhymes with cone while most people in Scotland would pronounce the baked good to rhyme with gone.
Shan-Chat@reddit
Scone in Perthshire rhymes with "coooon" ( I know if I only use two "Os" I'll get flak or banned as it would be taken out of context.
TrashLow6862@reddit
Yeah, you're right, i've realised i've F'd thatt one up!
Shan-Chat@reddit
No worries. I once had a scone in Scone. True Story.
TrashLow6862@reddit
You may or may not know this but a Jaffa Cake is a cake and part of the reason is for tax purposes as cakes and biscuits are taxed differently. They determined that it was a cake because if you leave one lying out it gets harder where as if it was a biscuit it would get softer.
AcceptableBee8492@reddit
Someone should cross stitch that so I can hang it in my porch
landofooz@reddit
Expecting others to clean up after them
BreqsCousin@reddit
Don't show off how rich you are.
Prestigious_Heron115@reddit
So is the "oversexxed, overpaid and overhere" mentality still alive and well?
Krakshotz@reddit
It’s a combination of “no one likes a rich showoff” and “don’t make yourself a target for thieves”
Weekly_Beautiful_603@reddit
I once overheard a tourist loudly remark to her friend that she had so much cash in her purse that it wouldn’t close.
Not for long, I’ll wager.
greenhail7@reddit
Blaze away Eddie, blaze away..
Prestigious_Heron115@reddit
Good advice.
MungoShoddy@reddit
Don't be afraid to express your opinions about controversial issues. We aren't that easy to offend, and secretiveness about what you really think will not be appreciated.
hardito-carlito2@reddit
Walk on the left. English children are taught from a young age to walk on the left its ingrained in us stop messing with the flow
anabsentfriend@reddit
Not once in my life have I ever been told to walk on the left.
anon38983@reddit
Same. I have been told to walk on the right when on country lanes though (so I don't have my back to the traffic that could run me over).
a_f_s-29@reddit
On busy pavements you’re supposed to walk on the left
Blackjack_Davy@reddit
If thats true and I've never heard it, no-one takes any notice
anon38983@reddit
I just walk according to the crowd. If everybody's tending to the right I go that way instead. Better than trying to single-handedly alter everyone's behaviour by ploughing through on the left side.
anabsentfriend@reddit
Yes I agree, I have to work in some fairly remote locations and always walk on the right.
Blackjack_Davy@reddit
Walking on the right on roads is for a good reason its so you can see the car thats about to mow you down coming towards you and take evasive action. Pavements (thats sidewalks to you US type folks) no-one cares
Blazing_World@reddit
I don't think we're ever explicitly told to but if you grow up here you learn that it's sort of a default behaviour.
Chazzermondez@reddit
Spend a day in the London tube and you will realise you subconsciously have been trained to. Everyone just defaults to the left at every opportunity.
anabsentfriend@reddit
London isn't England.
Chazzermondez@reddit
Thanks for the geography lesson Sherlock.
blind_disparity@reddit
Doesn't the London tube have signs telling you to keep to the left? I think you were just going with the flow of everyone else who paid enough attention to read the signs....
Chazzermondez@reddit
Idk if it has signs in the corridors, on the escalators there's signs to keep right, but that's so that people can walk on the left.
Ok-Comment5616@reddit
Learn how to make a proper cup of tea
Scared_Pineapple_938@reddit
Manners. We’re generally very polite so “yes please” “no thanks” “sorry” “excuse me” “excuse me do you mind if I just squeeze past you sorry sorry thank you” should all become a part of your hourly vocabulary
Mellybaggins1@reddit
Don’t push in. Respect the queue
Bubbly-Ad-2735@reddit
WALK ON THE LEFT! Used to wind me up at uni having to dodge international students on the staircases.
Brokkolli000@reddit
As a newly adopted British citizen, I am a European from a mediterranean country.
Where I come from, being polite is all about the tone of your voice and how you phrase it, we don’t say please and thank you every 5 seconds.
It took me a long time to get the ‘British politeness’ right, in the beginning people hinted that I was too direct (I now realise they meant rude), because I didn’t add a please and thank you at the end of every single request I made, no matter how gently I said it.
Example:
Would you like a cup of tea?
Correct answer (for yes): that would be lovely, only if you are making yourself one, if it’s not too much bother (I used to say yes please but nowadays even that sounds too direct!)\ For a ‘no’ answer: I am fine, thank you
I’ve also found that when in conversation people may not mean what they say, they are being polite about it.
Person in complete disagreement = ‘I hear what you are saying’
Person who hates what you’ve just done = ‘fine’
Etc etc. eventually you’ll learn to ‘translate’ into what a British person really means 😊
British people pls correct me if I am wrong, I’m still learning! 🙏🏻
busysquirrel83@reddit
I know plenty of Brits who just respond "ooh yes that would be lovely". Only a few say "only if you are making yourself one" and then it's usually in the context of me having to get up to to make the tea for them
a_f_s-29@reddit
You’re right, but this is especially true in workplace culture or with people you’re distant to - for friends it’s very different, brutal honesty and affectionate teasing govern all truly close interactions (with a lot less politeness). So basically the style of language you use will depend a lot on the level of formality and the degree of trust/intimacy within the relationship.
There are also regions where that kind of formality is pretty rare and people will be cheerful and warm with everyone (politeness is still generally important, but there’s a lot less of the precise, layered, counterintuitive ‘rules’). Social class can also play a role. It can be quite complicated but it sounds like you’re doing a good job figuring it out:)
VixenRoss@reddit
Don’t hold your phone away from you in public. Get a wrist strap for the case as well.
seven-cents@reddit
Where are you coming from?
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
India. I hope that isn't an issue to y'all ..
margotandsybil@reddit
While this is a slightly stereotypical assumption to make (albeit a largely accurate one in my experience with meeting Indian people!), if you are from India, I am going to have a guess that you like cricket. If you play, find a local cricket club and you will instantly have friends! If you don't play, you will be just as welcome to simply watch or, if you want, to help out with things like scoring. Cricket isn't anywhere close to as popular here as it is in India of course (and is only played in the summer), but those who do like it absolutely love it and you'll fit right in.
To actually answer the "don't" part of your question, if you are a cricket fan, don't be afraid to continue supporting India. Only a small minority of morons who happen to have newspaper articles think that as soon as someone moves here they should start supporting England only, and it can be a lot of a fun to have conversations and a bit of banter about cricket.
I don't often come to this sub, but just wanted to mention this as I have met quite a few people from South Asia who have moved to the UK and not really known where to start/a bit nervous about playing or watching cricket again.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Hey. I totally understand the basis of your assumption. While I personally don't watch cricket your advice is quite valid. So thanks for that!
margotandsybil@reddit
Oops sorry my bad!
seven-cents@reddit
Not an issue to me at least..
The problems that people outside of Europe or the UK might run into are the issues of sexism or male entitlement, plus the norms of hygiene.
Women are equal here, and they can dress however they like.
Wash/shower daily and use deodorant
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Yeah totally. Those are basic things to understand. I'm grateful that the right exposure with the help of some good people led me away from the toxic eastern culture.
And all the things you mentioned, glad to see that those are basic to my day to day life.
Thanks for the response boss!
a_f_s-29@reddit
Another thing that isn’t always obvious, but in public transport try to avoid having loud conversations (especially on the phone) or watching videos/music out loud. A lot of non-Brits do this on my daily commute and it’s very irritating to everyone. The problem is that Brits are kind of passive and avoid confrontation, so even though everyone is silently suffering they’ll probably never actually tell someone that it’s annoying or ask them to be quiet. So that person probably won’t know.
But yeah - use headphones and treat public transport (especially trains!!) as a quiet space. Buses can vary a lot more. If in doubt, try to fit in. Avoid adding volume to a space, and copy what the Brits seem to be doing. The general goal when in public is to be as unobtrusive and un-annoying as possible. Aka stay out of people’s way, stay quiet, queue respectfully, avoid touching people or intruding on their personal space as much as humanly possible, don’t stare at people, don’t push/crowd people, don’t eat anything too strong smelling, etc. Sounds like a long and intimidating list but it makes sense once you start to follow it. And, as I said, you probably won’t face any consequences for not doing these things - nobody’s going to confront you - but most people there will be very internally annoyed.
Final thing that’s a bit different, people are friendly and if you’re stuck you’re always welcome to ask for directions etc. However, don’t be surprised if people are suspicious or in a rush and refuse to stop (often you really do have to run to catch the next bus or train).
Also, try not to treat people too differently. There is a massive South Asian diaspora in the UK and millions of British people of desi descent who are, at this point, more culturally different -and British - than a lot of native South Asians realise. They also come from all over and tend to mix into a more fluid cultural identity here. Pakistani/Indian nationalism and politics don’t really carry over or hold much relevance for young 3rd/4th generation Brits.
Point being, don’t assume that because someone is brown they are Indian or that you will have a lot in common. You can usually tell by appearance whether someone is British born or a recent immigrant (the British desis often have paler (sun deprived and anaemic!) skin, different hair/makeup/clothing styles, different perfume/deodorant preferences, slightly taller height, etc). Sometimes you can’t. Chances are they will still have lots in common with you. But they might not understand hindi, and there’s a large chance they won’t speak it. They won’t necessarily be friendlier to you than white Brits, and their politeness might come across as distant but really it’s just a cultural difference and they’re just as unlikely to act with immediate familiarity and openness to strangers as any other British person on public transport. They might get annoyed if they think they are being treated differently because of their skin colour. I think these kinds of things can be a bit of a surprise/disappointment to Indians who visit, but you have to remember that many desi communities were established not long after partition - it’s been decades and generations since then, the cultures have diverged and India has changed a lot since those first families left.
serapica@reddit
Also, going somewhere with a man you are married or related to is viewed as completely acceptable, shout out to security at India House in Aldwych
Cesssmith@reddit
This is the most important.
We understand in some cultures the body is left to be pure or whatever the reasoning is.
But no one wants to sit next to someone's day old armpits on a plane for hours, a bus on a hot day, for a full work day, a day of lectures or on a packed train.
Deodorant, a shower and wearing a clean shirt (sometimes we call it a "top") daily are a must for any young man or woman.
Also if you cook food, make sure you air out your clothing before you leave the house, or put your clothes in a separate area and wear them just before you leave the house.
As a fellow ethnic person, the worst is getting outside and realising your coat smells of the fish your mother fried before you left the house or whatever cultural dish she made 🤦🏽♀️😫. It tastes amazing,smells terrible on clothing.
ianmccisme@reddit
Your use of "y'all" is very interesting. I'm an American from Texas, so I use it regularly. But I didn't expect to see someone from India using it. Is y'all becoming common there?
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Not really. I personally haven't seen many people use it but I cannot deny that it does exist.
Perhaps it's due to the fact that to get a better grasp of English I always relied on the internet (mostly American Youtubers) rather than Asian people.
I'm glad it was interesting to you. My vocab mostly buncha American and British words slammed together, ig. Truly international, haha.
Street_Abies_310@reddit
Honestly, most people don't care what country anyone is from or their faith. You will be made welcome and just judged on your personality. X
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Glad to hear that. Hope I'll be of value there...
EnvironmentalHat771@reddit
Please don’t take photos of everything… if you do, do it in your own time! Not in the middle of a crowd or walkway.
N7_Hellblazer@reddit
On public transport don’t sit next to someone unless there are no seats available. Do not sit your bag on a seat if the bus or train is busy. Keep feet off the seats. Keep your music down on your earphones and try to avoid making phone calls. Also make sure you keep your ticket as these do get checked.
Also if you are lost don’t be afraid to ask for directions. Most of us if they know the area will help you. This is also true with buses if you are unsure if you have the right bus.
BullFr0gg0@reddit
Stand on the right hand side on escalators! As the first successful escalator was put in place back in 1911 at Earl's Court Station a diagonal partition was put in place to help direct travellers disembark on the left.
This allows people in a rush or those who prefer to ascend quickly to move faster.
MunkTheMongol@reddit
This is true for any country. It's basic escalator etiquette.
BullFr0gg0@reddit
It varies between countries. In UK it's on the right (to stand). But still worth restating this.
Thats-somebody-0004@reddit
Don’t come
No_real_beliefs@reddit
Don’t shit in the street
Sameish@reddit
According to the posters my university used to put up, I guess:
"Don't stand up and squat on the toilet seat when using the toilet".
I still can't believe those posters were actually needed.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
The fact many Asians aren't potty trained to western toilets. It's bonkers frankly...
MunkTheMongol@reddit
At my school it was always the students from the middle east and India that squated on the toilets. I think it's like a cleanliness thing. Doubt that these people would do that in their private toilets.
moonstone7152@reddit
It's not like we're potty trained to use Asian toilets either. I embarrassingly walked in and out of a cubicle in Japan because I was too scared to even try.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Well that's true too. I guess it goes both ways...
ProfessionalEven296@reddit
That is….. a very disturbing sentence in this context…
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Ah fuck💀. It's all shits and giggles, until someone giggles and shits. (Im going insane haha)
J422GAS@reddit
Don’t wash your mouth out in the sink. If you’re worried about your oral hygiene bring a tooth brush and use spit into the toilet. Who knows how often the sink gets cleaned and who knows where you’ve put your mouth.
BeneficialReply6901@reddit
In a shop if someone has stepped back from the shelf to look at a lower shelf or to get a better look, that doesn't mean you can stand between them.
dilindquist@reddit
No advice, just wanted to say that from your responses you seem really cool with a good sense of humour and I hope you have a fantastic time here.
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Oh my, thank you so much for the kind words!! While I haven't moved to the UK yet, I'm grateful to you :)
a_f_s-29@reddit
They’re not wrong, seems like you’ll fit right in:)
Spiderman230@reddit
The weather's annoying here. Definity bring clothes that you are comfortable in the rain with.
EmilyDickinsonFanboy@reddit
Your flatmates will hate you shouting into your phone during endless conversations with your family and friends back home and dominating the kitchen for hours every day with your elaborate meals.
Source: my experience of many flatshares with foreign students.
Fluid_Grocery_1706@reddit
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
lotus49@reddit
Learn to queue.
Hatstand82@reddit
When a Brit asks you if you’re alright, the only acceptable answer is yes. The only correct answer to “How are you?” is “Fine, thanks. How are you?” We don’t actually want you to tell us in any kind of detail how you actually are.
Wonderful_Formal_804@reddit
Don't go to England.
MrDilbert@reddit
"Anything to declare?"
serapica@reddit
You keep hold of that thought
Sweet-Resolution-970@reddit
Be aware that in some cities where students tend to live can be rougher areas with higher crime. If you lived in a city I am sure you will be fine. But if you have only lived in a place with little crime, then be crime aware. Don't leave bags and purses lying around, or laptops right by ground floor open windows. Don't flash cash or expensive jewellery in public.
Healthy-Tap7717@reddit
I don't know where you are from so honestly mean this with the most sensitivity possible but we are generally clean people. As in :- is it not okay to go to the toilet in the street Put your rubbish in public bins on the street When you are in public spaces be aware you are sharing that space
I honestly embrace everyone and am only answering your question but I have seen (I'm going to say foreigners and not name continents) hold theor children up to squat and poop on the street, take a whizz (pee) on the street, and some heavily populated parts of London are sadly destroyed by garbage... to put it politely.
FYI - Brits aren't innocent
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Hey there. I totally get your point. It's disgusting to see that there are internationals who actually do such things there. The problem is, those people actually act like that regardless of where they live.
It is a big issue in our home country as well. It's fucking diabolical to see such peeps move around everywhere and just...ughh.
But yes, your general advices I'm glad that if the person belongs to a decent family of good upbringing, they'll uphold being a good Samaritan.
Thanks for the response! Cheers!!
Healthy-Tap7717@reddit
No worries, I didn't want to be offensive but wanted to give advice.
Enjoy your travels here I hope where ever you are you are welcomed as you should be. What has been happening lately truly saddens me to my core.
Good luck 👍
Ilsluggo@reddit
When walking between cars to cross a road (particularly when traffic is stopped and you aren’t at a crosswalk), look both ways before you step out, there is often a speeding Deliveroo rider filtering between traffic or possibly riding against traffic who will squish you like a bug if you aren’t mindful.
Throbbie-Williams@reddit
Don't only interact with those from the same country as you
blameitontheboogie92@reddit
just dont be a cunt and stay out of people's business. the United Kingdom is the most tolerant country in the world. there are cunts everywhere.
TheSecretIsMarmite@reddit
Don't forget to say please and thank you.
Don't complain it's cold: we know. You can say "it's a bit nippy out" when there is snow coming out of the sky or the windchill is -10°C but complaining it's cold when it's 15°C outside is going to raise some eyebrows.
Similarly don't wear a t-shirt and also complain it's cold - put on a jumper.
DO buy a decent raincoat with a hood. You will need it.
BuncleCar@reddit
There are many YouTube videos made by Americans on the lovely countryside, old buildings, beaches, canal boat holidays, the greatness of public transport compared to the USA and so on.
Other people have made videos too, probably people from practically everywhere.
BuncleCar@reddit
And we drive on the left so look to the right, or even both ways when crossing.
MelonBump@reddit
DO NOT push in queuing situations. We realise not everyone gets as emotional about turn-taking as we do, but nothing brings a group of British people together faster than a would-be queue jumper fucking trying it. Try that shit in the Post Office, and even the pensioners will just straight up offer you out
evilmaiders@reddit
If you're going to university cities they tend to be in larger and more accepting areas. I would like to think that as an international student you will be accepted as you are.
It is always worth asking local students of any areas to avoid as no matter where you go small minded individuals will exist but 99% of people are open to learn about you and welcome you. Just keep an open mind and make sure you don't queue jump as you'll get tutted at.
SnooBooks1701@reddit
The UK has a lot of unis in real unaccepting places too, because every mid sized town seems to have a university campus of some kind
Narrow-Future-1477@reddit
Don't cook without the extractor on. The cooking smells permeate the walls
the-bearded-lady@reddit
Have some road sense, take them ear phones out and look both ways, a fair few students near me have been badly hit by cars from stepping out, one sadly died.
Don't just stand in people's way chatting to your friends in supermarkets blocking the way.
Those are the only two things that annoy me about our local students.
Side note look after yourself and your mental health, another overseas student committed suicide in the woods, I haven't been to university but I'm assuming there's some kind of mental health support there.
Side side nite, get a Tesco club card for club card prices, annoyingly they have lower prices on some items but only if you have a rewards card which is free
Vegetable_Barnacle30@reddit (OP)
Thanks a bunch for the heads-up mate!
blind_disparity@reddit
Even better, shop at aldi or lidl
Spodokomodo27@reddit
No spitting!
mr_fog73@reddit
Don’t fall for a money mule scam. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/mar/be-alert-money-mule-scams
kawaiiyokaisenpai@reddit
You're at the back of a supermarket queue. A till is opened up and cashier calls "next customer!"
THAT CALL IS NOT FOR YOU! DO NOT queue jump. The people in the queue AHEAD of you should be served first. Jumping from back of queue to front will result in severe tongue clicks, tutting and a whisper of "what a cnnt"
Quiet_Interview_7026@reddit
Dint come it's sh*t
adamd4y@reddit
Don't be misogynistic, racist, homophobic etc. Respect that we may have a different culture to yours, and intolerance will not be tolerated.
Also, respect that the UK may have a different stance on world events. I don't particularly agree with how Kurds are oppressed in Turkey, or Uighurs in China, but I have no business going to those countries and protesting about it.
OrangeMentosSZN@reddit
expect a job will be waiting for you. ideally come with some experience
Vyvyansmum@reddit
Don’t ask the bus driver to deviate from his route. Get a taxi if that’s the service you want. I don’t know how buses work in other countries but we don’t do that. Believe me this has happened regularly here.
mr-pib1984@reddit
One thing to remember is in British cities (like most European or world cities) the areas around train/bus stations can often be a bit ropey after dark so are best avoided in the evening (unless travelling by train to/from somewhere).
Dio55@reddit
Toilet etiquette- don’t stand on the seat Racism- don’t stare at poc Homophobia - don’t ask which lesbian is the man (got asked this at uni)
CleanEnd5930@reddit
I’d say embrace where you have come to. Look around and learn about the place, don’t expect/want it to be just like home. Take time to understand things that are unfamiliar.