LOL, if Tulsi played Harris in Trump's debate prep that was truly an epic fail!
Posted by thedubiousstylus@reddit | tulsi | View on Reddit | 129 comments
Trump just gave the second worst debate performance of the televised era. LMAO.
Rabbit-Hole-Quest@reddit
Tulsi is on ABC right now and all her statements are hella cringe. How the fuck was she ever a Democrat even? She sounds 100% MAGA!
Marjayoun@reddit
Her platform was very liberal.
serpicowasright@reddit
That was the worst part of her past platform. The best part of her platform was what still remains, stop foreign intervention, support America and Americans in health and opportunities.
Thorpgilman@reddit
Tulsi was never a Democrat. She came from a culty fringe right family and could only get elected in her district if she pretended to be a Democrat. This is who she always was. And now, in her narcissistic hubris, sunk Trump's POTUS run. Pitch perfect karma.
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
This is revisionist history. Look at her platform from 2019-2020.
Thorpgilman@reddit
What did I say here that isn't accurate?
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
Well… for starters she was literally a registered Democrat and chair of the DNC.
I think the burden of clarification rests on you.
Her 2019-2020 platform was as progressive as Bernie’s.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
No, co-chair. And that's just a fundraising committee at the end of the day. Doesn't mean squat.
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
Uh… pretty sure that means she was a democrat. Which is the whole dumb point here.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
No, it does not. Pretending and being are two very different things.
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/tulsi_gabbard/412532
‘Pretending’ so hard she consistently voted left-of-center?
Lol. Actually, I have a theory… and it’s that YOU are the one being duped. She’s so patriotic that she joined Trump’s campaign as a Trojan horse to sabotage him and help ensure our democracy stands. We see evidence for this in that she was the one who helped him prep for the debate where he melted down like an angry child and became the laughing-stock of the country - just as she planned.
;)
Thorpgilman@reddit
Not the chair of the DNC. Her endorsement was anti-Clinton, more than pro-Sanders. She's always been a Trojan horse. She was a Russian asset while running for President.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Ding Ding Ding! I'm even starting to think Chris Butler sent her out on a mission to get in to public office and, as you point out, if it's gonna happen for her in Hawaii she's gonna have to become a convincing Democratic even if that means apologizying to ...gross...teh gheys.
SouthfieldRoyalOak@reddit
The kind lens would be that her statements on his war record are not bullshit. Despite his branding, his body count was significantly lower than any other modern president
Dblcut3@reddit
My favorite was her complaining about Democrats calling Trump “America’s Hitler”
Like Tulsi, his own running mate admitted to once viewing Trump as America’s Hitler! My guess is she’s getting buyers’ remorse from grifting to the wrong side
QuaggaSwagger@reddit
She's pure opportunist.
BriefSea4804@reddit
I think you and I watched different debates :)
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
Geez… that was secondhand embarrassing 🤦♂️
TBF to Tulsi… I don’t know if Donald is really the kind of person who can be effectively ‘prepped’ for a debate. I wouldn’t blame her too harshly for his performance.
LordXenu12@reddit
He was an idiot in 2016 too
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
The degree of his idiocy aside, his cognitive decline has become too obvious to ignore.
If he was like any of our grandpas it’d be a really tough family convo and a sad topic.
LordXenu12@reddit
I don’t think he seems any less batshit incompetent than he already was 🤷♂️
duke_awapuhi@reddit
Yeah he’s been doing incoherent stream of consciousness rambling for the last 9 years and somehow only now people are catching on
jstohler@reddit
Which is doubly embarrassing that Tulsi would hitch wagons to this absolute buffoon.
yinyanghapa@reddit
Ahhahahaha, Turncoat Tulsi blew it!
rk808hi@reddit
Her post comments about the debate were the opposite of what actually went down. Thanks to her, Trump believes he nailed it! 😂😂😍😍
rk808hi@reddit
She should be fired!
veedizzle@reddit
She had one well placed zinger that the press picked up on, Kamala was killing it in those debates. What a brain dead move by the trump campaign
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
The right will see it as a W, the left will see it as an L, and the needle won’t move. We know nothing more than we knew before. Wasted 90 minutes.
CJ4700@reddit
Yeah I think this is the most accurate take. 99.9% of people have already decided who they’re voting for. I think Trump took the bait way too often but the moderators were also a lot more biased during this debate vs the last one with Trump and Biden. The Dems I know see it as a W, the Republicans I know see it as a W because it exposed so much bias, 3 on 1. Nothing really changes.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
That’s exactly right. The backlash I got from thins innocuous observation proves the point.
CJ4700@reddit
💯💯💯
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
God it’s nice talking to someone reasonable on Reddit. Thanks bro lol
CJ4700@reddit
Anytime lol
tuepm@reddit
lol. the right certainly isn't viewing this as a win.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
There seems to be two camps forming. One camp saw it as a win. The other camp saw it as a win because they feel it was unfair (which is valid, honestly. Although both lied, only Trump was fact checked live).
Ibo-Naw@reddit
What did Vice President Harris lie about?
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Trumps support for Project 2025 was one that she said repeatedly, even after Trump said he doesn’t support it nor has he read it. He’s been consistent on this for months.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
He said he doesn't know the people behind it but he's taking photos, flights, and people have worked in his administration.
Trump says a lot of things and most of them turns out to be lies, so why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt?
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt haha! I’m just listening to what he’s said. The Heritage Foundation is a massive conservative org. Of course he’s been seen with these people..as a conservative president. This isn’t some conspiracy theory. Stop trying to force me to defend Donald when I’ve made no illusions that I support him. The political brain rot is strong with you.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Ok, let's make this simple. Trump lies nonstop, why do you all of a sudden think he's telling the truth about Project 2025?
teecuedee@reddit
Kamala continues to lie about the fine people hoax, when his literal next sentence from that quote "condemned totally" white supremacists. Why do you think she would tell you the truth about literally anything ever?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Trump has a few ways of speaking:
A. He says the scripted stuff and then goes off script because he doesn't agree with it. For example, his January 6, 2021 videos (they showed outtakes).
B. He says something outrageous, then tries to clean it up but eventually resorts back to the outrageous statements. For example, the "both sides" comment.
C. He says something that offends his base and realizes it, then says something even more outrageous. For example, during the first presidential debate in 2020, when he told the Proud Boys to "stand by."
Anyway, most people defending Trump by claiming he didn't say certain things do what they usually do: ignore everything else he said and focus on just one thing, such as "he said peacefully." Trump has been in national politics for almost ten years now. If you don't understand how he speaks by now, you're either playing dumb or genuinely uninformed.
REPORTER: Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?
teecuedee@reddit
Hello, I noticed that you didn't answer the question that I asked you. Could you please provide an answer for that?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Read my entire post that you just replied to.
teecuedee@reddit
Hello I read your post about Trump, but my question pertains to Harris.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Ok if you read my post you wouldn't be asking me to answer a question that debunks your post. So the premise of your question is irrelevant. 😂
teecuedee@reddit
You didn't even read your own post. It's in there - an immediate condemnation of neo nazis and white supremacists.
Furthermore - he condemned bigotry and racism the day before that press conference... in his first official statement regarding the event. Just because you reject his sincerity - that's not what debunk means.
Source (https://youtu.be/00RAteYexNA?si=x5sCJfYPCGKOZpZs)
Now will you admit Kamala is not being honest, and will you explain how she can ever be trusted to be tell the truth?
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I honestly don’t give a shit. He says he doesn’t support it repeatedly, and there’s nothing to prove he does.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
“Is Trump telling the truth?!” “I don’t care” “Deflect!!!”
JajajaNiceTry@reddit
But he also said Kamala does not support fracking right after she said she does. Like right after. Like he legit said the dems executes babies after they are born, he said illegal immigrants are eating pets, he said dems want to do transgender surgery on illegal immigrants in prison. He wouldn’t answer the question if he believes Ukraine should win this war. He also lied about her wanting to take guns away, she said she didn’t—she’s pro guns. He lies all the time. I just don’t know how you can believe him at all when he so blatantly lies like that.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Stop it. Trump isn't behind Project 2025 because he keeps saying it! That's his truth!
/s
QuaggaSwagger@reddit
And he's so honest.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/project-2025-leader-confesses-deep-151122732.html
tuepm@reddit
lol. ok! circle back tomorrow and let me know when you've watched enough fox news to develop an opinion for yourself.
bam214_bam@reddit
Yes we are!
thedubiousstylus@reddit (OP)
I saw one candidate go on about her plans for the country and explain in plain terms why the other was grossly unqualified, and the other being an incoherent rambling old man.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
And you’re a leftist. I saw two people ignore policy questions and lie or speak half truths. The only difference is only Trump was factchecked live. Reddit leans super far left, so I expect this site to be doing cartwheels, just like I see super right Twitter users doing cartwheels. The truth is, we all lost.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
What policy questions did she ignore and lie about?
teecuedee@reddit
Easy. When asked "do you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion?" She didn't answer the question; she gave an answer to a question that wasn't asked and then said a lie - Ralph Northam is the former VA governor who's on video saying that they do that.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
She didn’t answer any policy questions. Neither did Trump. Here’s some preliminary fact checks for you. Google is hard, I know, so I’ll do your research for you
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I asked you. Not Google.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
And I provided a source. Read it.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I watched the debate, I don't need a source. You made a statement, so I asked you, not a source.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
So you don’t trust ABC, who hosted the debate. You’d rather trust some random Redditor you don’t know to explain things to you? Wow. Smoooooooth brain.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I am asking YOU. Not ABC. lol.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Oh, so you trust me and not ABC? Wow. How based.
felixthewug_03@reddit
Ok but what is with the comments about executing babies after 9 months? Or extreme late-term abortions as if that's some regular thing? Or eating dogs and cats? What goes through your mind when you hear things like that? Honest question. It's truly fascinating to see how people defend this. I come at this from genuine curiosity.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I’m not going to defend it because I’ve given no indication that I support it.
An ex-VA governor said abortion decisions can be made after delivery. As far as I know, this isn’t a widely held position.
A black woman (her descent hasn’t been released) was caught eating a feral cat. Residents of that town have complained that their pets are being stolen and eaten.
That’s the available context.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
FACTS matter: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ralph-northam-virginia-abortion-952598071326
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Ummm I don’t need a source. You tell me.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I told you facts matter. Unlike you, I don't get up here making misleading statements. I guarentee that you didn't and won't read that article and will continue spewing false right wing talking points.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I haven’t spewed anything sweetie. Take your meds.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Did you click the link and read the article? Yes or no.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
“I didn’t ask for an article. I asked you to explain it!” - Ibo-Naw
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I asked you a question.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Deflect, deflect, deflect!
Jaket-Pockets@reddit
Ahh I see what’s happening here. You’re a bot!
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I'm far too real to be a bot.
QuaggaSwagger@reddit
Uh, did you go thru this?
At worst, Kamala's claims needed context.
Trump has a barrel of falsehoods and misrepresentations.
Slices-For-Lisa@reddit
She lied about Trumps “bloodbath” comments, she dodged Ukraine war questions, she spun getting out of Afghanistan. She did the same thing he did. It’s obvious both sides are going to think their candidate won. Neither one was compelling enough or, like the last one, was so bad they had to quit.
This was basically confirmation that Kamala is capable enough to at least seem like she can be president. And that Trump still has it together enough to campaign like he has been. It’s basically back to Trump v Biden, where you either vote for Trump or against him.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
The Bloodbath was a policy question?
How did she spin getting out of Afghanistan? What she told was the truth.
How did she dodge the Ukraine question?
If anyone thinks Trump won the debate, they're either lying or dellusional.
nkn_19@reddit
I did learn that Harris is excited to have Dick Cheney on board. That was frightening enough.
Dick f'ing Cheney, is not something to boast. Kinda speaks volumes about who these people are.
"hey remember that guy who got a million people killed based on a lie and business contract promises? Yeah, he's with us now. Great right!? '.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Yeah, that was a bit jarring. Made me feel queasy again, like I felt when Trump brought on John Bolton in 2016. If you want war, these are your people to bring in.
nkn_19@reddit
The Machine will stick together. I don't even like Trump but it's pretty obvious who he's up against.
This quote hit me hard today. I think it sums up the times we're are faced with. What I think we're witnessing right now, summed up by C.S. Lewis
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
C.S. Lewis
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I always find it funny when people say they don't like Trump, yet always find ways to defend him like he's some victim.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I love CS Lewis. This quote is spot on.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Do you know why Dick Cheney endorsed her?
nkn_19@reddit
Cause he loves democracy and the America? Lol.
Both he and her are neocons. That's why.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
How is VP Harris' a neocon?
Jaket-Pockets@reddit
To keep the MIC pay flowing.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
FACTS matter. https://x.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1832167027114410348
nkn_19@reddit
So the war criminal thinks DJT is the biggest threat? That's pretty funny actually.
Cheney sold our country out for lucrative business contracts. Millions dead or displaced around around the globe because of him. More terrorists in the world because of his actions and Trump is the threat? Give me a break.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Ok, what what 20 years ago have to do with what's going on in the 2024 election cycle?
Dirtybrd@reddit
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/11/harris-biden-debate-winner-takeaways-00178442
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gdnl9pg1wo
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-voter-panel-says-harris-won-debate
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/who-won-harris-trump-presidential-debate/75148815007/
https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/debates/who-won-trump-harris-presidential-debate/
Seems like it wasn't only leftists who thought Kamala won.
Purvi3vedi@reddit
Do our votes even matter or is it all predetermined anyways? What if we all just stopped voting. Maybe then the real people who run the policies will eventually come to light
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Our votes don’t matter because the president doesn’t matter. Our elected leaders are just puppets and their strings are PACs and lobbyists.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Speak for yourself. My vote matters and my people didn't fight for the right to vote to have random redditor to say it doesn't matter.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
You gave me authority and now you’re stripping it? My family has fought in every war since the revolutionary war. I don’t give a shit who you or “your people” are. Your vote is meaningless, just like every word you write on this site.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I have a strong feeling your family faught for the Confederates.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
Connecticut regiment, bitch. Try again.
aelfwine_widlast@reddit
You know who tries to claim debates don't move the needle? The loser.
A bad debate performance forced Joe Biden to step down. I doubt Trump has the humility to do the same, but let's not pretend this won't matter. The emperor has no clothes, and more people than ever saw it.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I’m anti government. I hold no bias. Your bias has read intent in what I wrote. You’re a leftist, so you think Trump lost. Your opinion proves my point.
aelfwine_widlast@reddit
I think Trump lost because his words had no substance and he was unable to give direct answers. And that's leaving aside his attempts to blame Pelosi for J6, or questioning Harris' race, or repeating the debunked racist story about immigrants eating pets.
If you want to call that bias, by all means.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
That’s literally what the right is saying about Kamala. You’re proving my point again.
aelfwine_widlast@reddit
I can back up my claims. They can't. Relativism only stretches so far.
Again, if feeling your point stands make yous feel good, be my guest.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I made no point other the one you and your like are continually proving :)
mkebrew86@reddit
Agree no one really answered any questions but the betting sites have kamala as a debate winner and getting a bump in electoral odds
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Hmmm Harris answered plenty of questions.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
I think the betting sites are moving that direction because the bar was so low for Kamala. She’s had pretty rough debates (thanks to Tulsi) and her last TV appearance was boring and lacked substance. Trump needed a knockout, and other than the “I’m talking” moment, he didn’t have that. Kamala will surely get a bump on betting sites, but I don’t think the polls will shift much. Only time will tell.
NewCoderNoob@reddit
Only both sides enlightened weasels and spineless dimwits won’t be moved.
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
The average voter will not be moved. Our political system is so polarized, it would have taken a miracle for either candidate to move the needle substantially. But the leftist Reddit echo chamber will continue to downvote me, which proves my point.
NewCoderNoob@reddit
Ok now wander off to conservative and pander your nonsense
questiano-ronaldo@reddit
What makes you think I’m conservative? Feel free to dive into my post history. I’m an anarchist lol
Ibo-Naw@reddit
The mods did a bad job too. They let him interrupt constantly, and they rarely followed up with him and when they did he still didn't answer and they just moved on.
They held her more accountable than they did him.
wizpiggleton@reddit
Funny thing is the RW Media is blaming the moderators saying the moderators made this a 3v1 against trump.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Lol if they don't stop but we all know they don't live in reality.
This was the night in a nutshell.
Mods: will you sign an abortion ban? Trump: rambles for 2 mins Mods: so.... Will you sign an abortion ban? Trump: rambles again without answering ABC: thank you Mr. President. Vice President Harris...
Yeah, ight right wing media 😂.
teecuedee@reddit
Trump explicitly carved out exceptions in his answer, for rape/incest/life-threatening complications. Why are you lying?
rundabrun@reddit
This would only be good for Tusli if she admitted that she sabotaged his performance on purpose. Sadly I know this is not the case but it is the only way I would get even a tiny bit of respect back for her.
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
lol
I'd lose respect because the unjustifiable charge of her being a grifter would then be in turn justifiable. I feel like for the most part, she has stuck to her guns over the last five years. Speaking of which gun control was a clear exception.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Unjustifiable charge? You honestly believe a 40 year woman suddenly goes from progressive to regressive in the span of 2 years?
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
The media doesn't define political views for me. A lot of people define progrressive in different ways. Tulsi has always been against what she called regime change wars. If you know anything about how the Ukraine war started then you know a regime change war from one that is not that way. That doesn't imply that I support the genocide in Isreal the was she seems to.
I don't believe anybody on that debate stage last night could be called a progressive. Basically you had a neoliberal square off against a neocon so if you think Tulsi went from a neoliberal (something she never was) to a neocon then you might have a point. Romney, the Cheneys, Pence and Putin all endorse Kamala Harris. How does a politcally saavy and intelligent person sort that out?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Another comment that does not answer my simple question. 😂
AntiFarkRedditor88@reddit
For... Real..
That was embarrassing. And I'll give it to Kamala, (lol) she seemed very prepared and had so many opportunities given to her for cringey one-liners. Ugh.
ParatusPlayerOne@reddit
She’s a charlatan. She and Trump are two peas in a pod.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
One of the funniest yet saddest parts of the debates was the part Trump was telling VP Harris to go sign a bill tonight or go wake up POTUS to make a bill and sign it. Something along those lines. I'm like, this man was President and doesn't know how the three branches of government work.
Also, what was funny is anyone saying Trump won the debate, if he did, why did he go to the spin room immediately after the debate? lol
DC_MOTO@reddit
Tulsi is essentially an unemployed part time political commentator. It doesn't pay well.
I legitimately wonder how she pays the bills.
She also may be the sort of childless cat lady that Vance is talking about.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Speaking fees. She makes enough on YouTube to do ok.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
This man answered not one question, repeated the same false talking points, and lied the entire time. Craziness.
GetThaBozack@reddit
Came here to post the same thing lmao. TBF the guy is as undisciplined as it gets so no amount of prep was going to stop him from going off on tangents about crowd sizes and racist claims about Haitians eating peoples pets. However this was an embarrassing performance for the ages and doesn’t look good for Tulsi for being involved in prepping him