Ok now this is a rare sight, a mobile lounge being used to load passengers into a plane at IAD
Posted by Bluishdoor76@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 159 comments
Mystery_Member@reddit
That was fairly routine at IAD in the early 90's and earlier. They didn't have enough gates with jet bridges.
kevin_from_illinois@reddit
United showing how innovative they are, by adding more gates without adding more gates. Cost management at its finest.
Kasaeru@reddit
United doesn't have any control over the gates, the airport does.
BanTarry@reddit
Not true. United pumped $1BN into DEN to expand a concourse. Airlines most certainly control what gets built at their hub airports.
cguess@reddit
I was on these all the time in the late 2000s and mid 2010s even.
BahamaTodd@reddit
How are they powered?
user-110-18@reddit
This is a COPA flight from Panama. I haven’t taken that flight for about six years, but when I did take it regularly, we always had to use the mobile lounge.
AceCombat9519@reddit
This belongs to United Airlines. Looking at it it's registered in the United States COPA have the Panamanian HP registrations.
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
It's United Airlines actually
user-110-18@reddit
Ah. You are right. I often confuse the tail logos.
Ichthius@reddit
passanger pez dispenser.
cameraview1970s@reddit
These were featured in the movie “Airport ‘75”. They’ve been around for a very long time.
Historical-Tour-2483@reddit
Always wanted to do this but never hit the “jackpot” on IAD flights. I’ve ridden them between terminals but would love to load/offload on one one day
BlatantConservative@reddit
Nah it sucks.
Each one can only hold lime 60-70 people so the plane has to let people off piecemeal.
People get the animalistic crowd instinct to rush out in a giant mob and then the FA stops you like four or five times. People groan and complain.
Might be nice if you're in first class.
Historical-Tour-2483@reddit
Oh for sure I can see that but one they’ll be a thing of the past
bingeflying@reddit
Not rare though. Those fuckers don’t give a fuck about anyone else on the ramp I’ve had them cut me off several times
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
Dude, driving by C1/2 is a gamble with these things coming in and out of the international corridor gates.
MegaBobTheMegaSlob@reddit
Huh, last time I flew we boarded directly into the plane when I left, and got off the plane with one of those when we came back
Last-Cherry2626@reddit
International?
MegaBobTheMegaSlob@reddit
It was yes
Last-Cherry2626@reddit
Yep, that’s what they use when an international gate isn’t open. And some of the gates that arn't connected to customs
polishprocessors@reddit
Did you, or did you walk off the plane, a few hundred yards down the terminal, THEN hop on one of these? That's quite common...
MegaBobTheMegaSlob@reddit
Nope, went right off the plane into one of these.
polishprocessors@reddit
Crazy! Well as you see elsewhere, quite rare, hope you enjoyed it!
bingeflying@reddit
Oh right yeah I’ve actually never seen that in person
Last-Cherry2626@reddit
Killed a southwest ramper 12ish years ago. The driver got promoted
Last-Cherry2626@reddit
Killed a southwest ramper 12ish years ago. The driver got promoted
dad_guy428@reddit
They have gotten a little better. There were a few instances some years ago and I think they vetted some of the drivers. Still not good, but better than it used to be
TbonerT@reddit
Not rare, I’ve flown many times out of dozens of airports and never seen one of these before.
bingeflying@reddit
Yeah they’re only at IAD
Fourteen_Sticks@reddit
Try being in a little Cirrus that’s the same color as the pavement taxiing down A or B from 19L to Jet Aviation…
Last-Cherry2626@reddit
That’s a planemate, they go up and down to mate with the plane. Mobil lounges are the terminal to terminal ones that don’t go up and down cuz it’s a standard level.
Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit
NOT a rare sight. That's what they're used for - loading and unloading of passengers from planes. That's their purpose.
Before the outer terminals were constructed, these were used hundreds of times a day for boarding and unloading of passengers.
fly_awayyy@reddit
As OP says it’s rare for the airport even though that’s what their original purpose was. Worked at IAD for many years this is not common causally at a gate…
Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit
I was there in the end of the 80's and early 90's before the outer terminals were built and these operated all day long, every day of the week.
fly_awayyy@reddit
Well they still operate all day long to and from the IAB. Docking onto a plane is rare nowadays especially at a gate.
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
what I meant by rare, they dont use them for that anymore and havent for a very long time. They're now only primairly used for moving passangers from international flights to customs and from moving passangers from concurse D to concurse A, or main terminal to concurse D. As there is no train connection that goes to concurse D yet.
kazak9999@reddit
No train that ends at the D gates. The C and D gates are one big, continuous terminal so you can take the train to the C gates then hoof it in the terminal down to the D gates.
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
Correction, they're off loading passengers
motophoto5000@reddit
Had the same thing happen during a power outage around 2005.
stackology@reddit
Assuming this is parked at a contact gate position, is this to get the pax to the main terminal FIS?
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
this was at gate C11, there was some issue with the gate and they couldn't get it to work. So they brought in a mobile lounge to off load the passengers. This was an international inbound flight so they were very likely taken to customs.
kurtbitner@reddit
If this was taken today it was UA 2634 ATL-IAD so it was NOT an international flight
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
I said international cause this mobile lounge type is normally the one moving people to customs. The one that is used for moving people between terminals doesn't have the screws.
shiftyjku@reddit
Was going to say that's a 737 tail so if it was international it wasn't from very far away.
Recent_Tap_7378@reddit
Since when did they start using cybertrucks at airports?
Western-Sky88@reddit
That's so rare that I'm actually surprised anybody was around who had the training to do it.
ywgflyer@reddit
YUL has these as well, they are used for aircraft parked on hard stands on the apron north of the terminal building.
MagPistoleiro@reddit
What's up with the two chimney like thingies on top of it?
ywgflyer@reddit
The cabin of the mobile lounge is operated by hydraulic pistons that move it up and down to match the door height of the aircraft. The 'chimneys' are where the length of the hydraulic ram/piston that operates this system resides.
InitialProtection605@reddit
Maybe a rare sight outside of IAD, but almost every flight I've been on out of Dulles I've ridden on those 😅 Honestly they are some really cool machines 💯
HaMerrIk@reddit
Wait they could just do this the whole time
Acceptable_Tie_3927@reddit
Plot twist: all of them have contacted the Andromeda strain and are being transported in this airtight land-ark, to be flown to a secret underground base at Area 51 and never to be seen again. X-files starts whistling in the background...
NotToBeChanged@reddit
Using them at the tail of an aircraft is likely quite uncommon. But I've been driven to "my" plane at IAD at least once this year. Was a Brussels Airlines flight back to BRU. The "gate" was one at the end of the concourse where the mobile "lounge" docked and after a LONG wait drives out to the plane parked quite a bit away, to deliver you to your plane from the front door).
When they use them to get you to customs and immigration, they're somewhat OK, but to drive you out to your plane, you sit in them for WAY too long.
shaftman14@reddit
It’s not a mobile lounge. It’s essentially a “people mover” to get passengers between terminals.
Gdigger13@reddit
My god, ORD needs one of these.
ChairmanJim@reddit
The original name from the designer was mobile lounge. Its explained in the short video in this thread
shaftman14@reddit
Good to know, but it’s a weird name for what they are. I’ve been in a few and they’re very much like a public bus.
When I think of a lounge I think of drinks and snacks. Or at least a little bowl of mints.
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
Mobile lounge is what we call them here, never heard them be called anything else tbh
BlatantConservative@reddit
I always thought that if you called them by their real name, you're a cop. Like the same kind of thing as if you called Gatorade colors by their legal name.
They're sky camels.
DudeWithAnAxeToGrind@reddit
I call them tundra buggies. Because that's the closest thing I can compare them to given their size.
MikeyMIRV@reddit
My wife and I call them “sand crawlers.”
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
They feel that big when they drive by next to you, 2 years in and driving at the airport for a year, and it's still a bit nerve-wracking.
shaftman14@reddit
I stand corrected…kinda - https://dcist.com/story/23/06/21/va-dulles-airport-people-movers/
Available_Sir5168@reddit
So it’s like a bus?
shaftman14@reddit
Pretty much, yeah. Fancy purpose built bus. They kinda “dock” to the buildings so passengers can traverse efficiently…ish.
AndHeCycledAway@reddit
I experienced that once too, I have no idea where or when as I was only a kid then, but I remember loving it
oojiflip@reddit
This was such a strange experience when I went to dulles! Means you don't step foot outside of a closed space until you leave the airport! (admittedly a jet bridge does the same thing but you actually drive to the terminal in this thing)
fungus909@reddit
Oh, that’s why they are lifted like that. I thought it was just to make them look cool.
ListenOk2972@reddit
I watched the Pope get loaded onto a plane in one of these
jstift@reddit
It’s called a People Eater
Katana_DV20@reddit
Hilarious, it's like it came from a cartoon.
DudeWithAnAxeToGrind@reddit
Didn't know they use those tundra buggies to directly board / unboard passengers. I've only seen them used to shuttle people between terminals.
IMO, calling them "mobile lounge" is misleading. On the inside they simply look like extra wide subway car. They don't look anything like "lounge".
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
I've always thought the name is odd, but if you look up mobile lounge on google, the IAD mobile lounges are literally the first thing that pop up lol
facw00@reddit
IIRC this one is actually a Plane Mate, which is sometime considered something different, though I'd group them all as Mobile Lounges.
My understanding is that they were still commonly used to bring passengers from arriving international flight (especially from developing world airlines) directly to Customs from the plane, but I'm not going through IAD often enough to be confident in that assessment.
DudeWithAnAxeToGrind@reddit
Well. Good to know that's how they are officially called. I'll still keep calling them tundra buggies, sounds much more cool ;-)
BlatantConservative@reddit
I call them mechacamels.
Trying to get away with the most absurd name you can is a fun part of going through Dulles.
fly_awayyy@reddit
Yes for all the people that b***h and complain about them, this is where their versatility comes in handy. Aerotrain breaks down? Great have a backup/ original system. No gates available for a new airline remote stand for you and we’ll shuttle you so you can operate. Diversion or IRROP event where all gates are occupied? They hook up and get passengers off so as long as they can park the plane safely. Forget other major airports where you would have to wait hours for a gate I’m looking at EWR lol.
HettySwollocks@reddit
Looks like they nicked a train carriage and stuck it on wheels.
hicky1999@reddit
Now I can think of many things to call these but Lounge does not come to mind
JanTroe@reddit
I got to use one of those in Philadelphia in 1999.
thereader17@reddit
Still use this in Montreal
joecarter93@reddit
Here’s a good video on the ones at YUL
https://youtu.be/j3OqAN4ISOw?si=Yz60hhi9jm4Ys4j5
ChairmanJim@reddit
Thanks. The video says they are converting to electric to answer another poster.
agha0013@reddit
Used to ride on these awful things in Mirabel back in the day. They had some bridged gates at the terminal but most planes were parked out on the apron and served by a whole fleet of these trucks. The front face of the main terminal was just a whole line up of doors for them to mate with.
coming back from a family vacation in a warm place in the 1980s in the middle of winter, these things were punishment. cold, loud, stinky, uncomfortable
MikeyMIRV@reddit
Anyone know what the large “fins” on top are for?
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
That's where the hydraulic tubes stick out. Basically, that's how high it can raise itself.
wlonkly@reddit
Because of those fins, I learned from my retired pilot uncle that back in the day of Polish jokes they were called "Polish helicopters".
fly_awayyy@reddit
They’re jack screws you can see them underneath actually.
cach-v@reddit
Jeez I thought it was so the tower / planes could see them lol
BlatantConservative@reddit
They store nutrients and water for the dry months.
ekkidee@reddit
Exhaust stacks.
legardeur2@reddit
These people movers were used to embark passengers from terminal to aircrafts as early as 1975 when Mirabel airport in Montreal was inaugurated.
ExocetC3I@reddit
There's still a few of them over at YUL as far as I know, just in case they have to send an aircraft to a remote stand.
Numitron@reddit
A few of them are rusting away on a lot at CYMX.
Makes me sad every time I go over there and see the remnants of a greater thing.
Good place to practice towered airports without going into the chaos of CYHU now though.
ExocetC3I@reddit
Less community noise too. I can imagine the community around St-Hubert is none too happy about the prospect of a bunch of commercial services starting up.
Ivebeenfurthereven@reddit
NIMBYs delenda est
gappletwit@reddit
Yup. I was in one last week. Terrible.
legardeur2@reddit
Why was it terrible? They’re called lounges in Washington!
gappletwit@reddit
Often crowded. Always slow.
legardeur2@reddit
I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
W33b3l@reddit
We all know that's just a covered K loader with seats lol
Dangerous_Mix_7037@reddit
Used to be SOP in Jeddah
Carp12C@reddit
Whenever I fly through Dulles, I make it a point to take a ride on these! Montreal also uses mobile lounges to board planes from time to time.
Mountain_Frog_@reddit
They would be great if they didn't seem to have the passenger air intake right next to the diesel exhaust...
Ivebeenfurthereven@reddit
They seem like a pretty good candidate for battery electric, or at least LPG conversion
MildlyConcernedIndiv@reddit
I've ridden on these to and from planes several times at IAD and once at YYZ. It's been since COVID I've been thru either of those airports. Are they not using them any more?
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
They're used extensively at IAD to ferry arriving international passengers from C concourse and A/B concourse and taking them to customs. They're also used to ferry passengers from D concourse to the main terminal, B concourse and A concourse as the D gates don't currently have access to the underground train network. They also occasionally use them to ferry passengers from C gates to main terminal when maintenance is being performed on the trains. The last use and most rare use of them now is well this, it's original purpose of transporting passengers directly from the aircraft to a terminal usually when there's major issues with the jet bridge and the aircraft can't be redirected to a different gate.
MildlyConcernedIndiv@reddit
Ah. Thanks for the info!
spddmn77@reddit
Makes me think of a school bus and moon rover combined lol
eneka@reddit
I call them the moon buggies
BlatantConservative@reddit
Basically what it feels like to be inside lol
KPbICMAH@reddit
absolutely worth r/BitchImATrain
spoiled_eggsII@reddit
These things aren't rare at IAD are they?
BlatantConservative@reddit
OP is saying it's rare for one to be schlorping passengers directly out of the plane.
They bus people between terminals all the time.
urzrkymn@reddit
I like how it has vertical stabilisers.
BlatantConservative@reddit
Common misconception!
Those are actually humps that store fat and water for the Virginia dry season. In this picture they appear to be fully stocked up but if you take a look around February/March when they're depleted, they can be 40 percent smaller and floppy.
TyrannoNerdusRex@reddit
They could speed up boarding if they put a big piston on the back end. Press a button and just FWOOMP people right into the plane.
source4mini@reddit
Unloading is like a solder sucker but for people.
praythedelayaway@reddit
Jesus, the airlines would save so much money if people were preseated in the airport terminal and then slid into place like a C5. Why has nobody thought of this?????
thedman9052@reddit
It's been proposed several times actually but they always decide it's not worth the cost.
Key-StructurePlus@reddit
Not a mobile lounge. It’s a COVID/Flu/common cold moving petri unit. Bringing respiratory illness to travelers since 1965….
Timely-Pass8854@reddit
So is this basically a railway wagon?
Sorry-Mortgage7661@reddit
I guess this is for wheel chairs
TG10001@reddit
Is my mind fucking with me or was I on one of these on a delta flight from FRA to IAD as recently as 2018 maybe?
fly_awayyy@reddit
Delta doesn’t fly FRA-IAD only Lufthansa or United. But if you did yes you had to get on one to go to immigration.
TG10001@reddit
It was indeed a United / LH codeshare, thanks for pointing it out
Pangea_Ultima@reddit
Only poors leave the lounge to board thru a gate with the peasants
Final_Winter7524@reddit
Back in the early 2000s, I swear, I was on those damn things for almost every flight - international or domestic. Any terminal change, and you had to take those things.
jzorbino@reddit
I had this happen on an American Airlines flight in Madrid a few days ago. There were several of us disabled/on crutches and they had us exit into one of these things. I’d never seen one before.
Majortom_67@reddit
Not rare
SmokinTires@reddit
I assume this is at the remote ramp beyond Concourse C/D? I’ve never taken a flight from there, and I’ve always assumed that is for emergency aircraft parking or overnights
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
nope, this was C11, jet bridge was not working so they brought this to off load them and take them to customs.
PaleInvestment3507@reddit
DFW used these a lot back in the day.
Foundrynut@reddit
I worked at IAD in mid 90s. Delta used to fly an L1011 in from Germany. (I think it was flight 60) The passengers were deplaned by mobile lounge and moved to customs/immigration.
BigGrayBeast@reddit
i experienced that in 95 United from Madrid. Loved not having to walk a mile to customs.
Joelpat@reddit
I flew swissair from Zurich to IAD in 2002. They deplaned us onto the people movers, and then we sat on them for more than an hour. Not a happy memory.
rocketshipkiwi@reddit
I’ve been on those a few times, they are really cool. Like a bus in side and they lift you up to the door level of the plane. Generally when they didn’t have air stairs and they needed lift on/lift off.
Can’t remember where it was though.
FeedMeCrabs@reddit
This is what they were originally designed for. The idea was that travelers would relax in the terminal, away from the noisy ramp. Dulles was one of the first (maybe the only?) airports to test this idea. Jet bridges seem to scale better and ultimately became the favorable option.
joecarter93@reddit
Trudeau (Montreal) uses them currently during peak times as well. I think the other airport in Montreal (Mirabel) used them too, before it has closed. One of the terminals at JFK might have used them in the 70’s too maybe?
thealbertaguy@reddit
Leave your own state or country once in a while... they're used around the world.
Airwolfhelicopter@reddit
Didn’t the Space Shuttle use something like that after landing?
joecarter93@reddit
NASA bought a couple of them for this purpose
nqthomas@reddit
Yes
Tr0yticus@reddit
Those things are so bizarre to ride on
Double-Show-2625@reddit
I've been working at the airports for years and I've never seen this before!
siouxu@reddit
Ok, what if, guys, guys listen...guys, listen, what if, we use the mobile lounges to then dock with the terminal and deplane and enplane passengers? Guys!?, listen, guys, this is going to save gate space, lower costs, and be more flexible. I think we're on to something. Airport of the future shit. Next we do a huge circular runway. Guys?
guijappe@reddit
It is not rare. I lived in Washington DC for 5 years and used the mobile lounge several times when departing fom and arriving at IAD.
NintendoThing@reddit
I’ve been on it several times, most recently last year coming home from Europe via CDG
honore_ballsac@reddit
Many many years ago, the first time I entered the USA, I landed in a PANAM 747 (LHR - IAD). Deplaning into one of those vehicles to go to the terminal was a mind blowing experience as a first timer. All I knew up to that day was either jetways, getting on a bus to board the plane or walking on the tarmac to the plane (small airports).
gappletwit@reddit
Lounge seems to be a mischaracterization.
Desperate-Tomatillo7@reddit
I feel that IAD has weird transportation stuff.
ajmezz@reddit
I worked at the ramp tower for a few years and one of the positions was dispatching the lounges for pax pickup/drop off. Lounges were used in this fashion on almost a daily basis, especially during the summer when there wasn’t room at the gates or certain airlines didn’t feel like paying their fees. Place is a nightmare during the banks with all the moving parts.
Flighthome@reddit
These things are still around at YUL and have been in service for a long time at YMX too
QuestionMarkPolice@reddit
That's not a mobile lounge at all. It's used to move people between terminals and gates. Dulles uses those every day all day.
Bluishdoor76@reddit (OP)
Like I pointed on, another reply, that's just what we call them here at IAD. Also, yes, these are everywhere at IAD, but they are not used like in the picture at all anymore. This is extremely rare, usually done when there's issues with jet bridge.
Fourteen_Sticks@reddit
I took an Aer Lingus to Dublin flight back in June. A Royal Air Maroc at the next gate over was loading up a 788 with them. All 270 some odd passengers. Looked miserable.
jsmeeker@reddit
Indeed. It use to be the main way for passengers to board and de-board airplanes at Dulles.
JT-Av8or@reddit
I never heard a shuttle bus called a lounge before.