The Thing About Tulsi Now Being on Team Trump...
Posted by Ibo-Naw@reddit | tulsi | View on Reddit | 95 comments
Is that something doesn’t add up here with her endorsement and her working for him as an attack dog now.
She keeps calling Kamala Harris fake and a puppet, saying she can’t think for herself. Kamala Harris is a former prosecutor. You can’t prosecute a case without being able to think for yourself. The irony of her calling anyone fake, but I digress.
She keeps calling her a warmonger. Where is this proof that Kamala Harris encourages or advocates aggression towards other countries or groups?
But the funny thing is, she, as well as many others, tries to pretend as if Donald Trump is some peaceful man who advocates for peace, love, and soul.
So, this is where it really starts to make zero sense.
Trump, on January 6, 2021, sat in a room watching TV while a bunch of ignorant humans attacked police, the U.S. Capitol, and tried to kill the VP and SOH based on a lie and because Trump sent them there. Mind you, this is the same place Tulsi worked for 8 years.
Now I know the Trump lovers will say, “he said peaceful,” but the man used the word ‘fight’ or ‘fighting’ around 20 times, including telling the crowd they needed to ‘fight like hell’ or you’re not going to have a country anymore.
Now, if Trump was a peacemaker, why didn’t he speak up as soon as the Capitol was breached? Why is he talking about pardoning people who assaulted police, whom he claims to support?
Why is he constantly talking about jailing his political opponents and others?
Why does he laugh and joke about the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband?
Trump, on many occasions, has encouraged and advocated for aggression: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts," "stand back and stand by," "you'll never take back our country with weakness."
Mr. “bring the troops home” and “end endless wars” didn’t do that. He negotiated a terrible deal to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, which didn’t happen under his watch. When it did happen, it was chaos, but it’s President Biden’s fault.
Trump expanded drone strikes, troop numbers didn’t decrease under him, and the defense budget increased.
They seem to forget about Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani?
Trump hasn’t condemned Russia once for attacking Ukraine. It’s always some “If I was President it would have never happened...blah blah blah" blame Biden blah blah blah. If he was anti-war, he would have condemned Putin and not praised him like he did the week the invasion started. He would also be advocating for Putin to stop and go home. He was way more forceful on people protesting a police officer killing a Black man for no reason.
I know Trump lovers love to move the goalposts with him to suit their argument, but the “no new wars” claim doesn’t hold any weight because President Biden hasn’t started a new war either, yet they call him a warmonger. He could have easily backed out of the Afghanistan deal if he were a warmonger. He could have easily sent troops to help Ukraine or Israel if he were a warmonger. Also, spare me what he said 25, 30, or 40 years ago.
So, long post, but make it make sense, people.
Illin_Spree@reddit
This post is really painful because you can't even bring yourself to criticize Tulsi for being so bloodthirsty re. Palestine...and this is exactly the issue that proves Tulsi is a phony. But you can't criticize her on it because all the politicos you like are just as awful on it.
You're honestly a neocon coolaid drinker. You seem to think endless war in Ukraine to destabalize Russia is fine and good and the West is totally not blocking a peace deal. Your posts here only reinforce people's perception that Reddit liberals are mindless idiots.
The wars in Ukraine and Israel have been very bloody and were started under Biden's watch. Just because US troops aren't there does not reduce the USA's culpability. Yes, we all know Trump wouldn't be any better....and the idea that Trump would end the war in Ukraine is wishful thinking too. You would do well to stfu about Ukraine because when you post here you help convince people that Trump might be less of a warmonger re Ukraine with your idiotic points about Trump being in Putin's pocket or w/e. Decent people who aren't brainwashed Redditors have no interest in regime change in Russia and they don't care which billionaires get to control Ukraine and the Crimea.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Illin_Spree@reddit
Why bother typing out a reply if you're not going to address anything substantial? My point is you are a troll and your posts only reinforce the pro-Trump bias here by suggesting that Trump is in Putin's pocket or w/e the fuck it is that MSM libs believe. Most people actually want peace with Russia and don't want the threat of nuclear war hanging over them. Also, your critiques of Tulsi are weak as fuck because you don't even seem to disagree with her on the issue that makes it clear she's part of the swamp.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
You didn't write anything substantial to reply to.
not-geek-enough@reddit
You still believe in the D and team blue lol
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I believe in facts. Sadly something this sub for the most part gave up believing a long time ago.
not-geek-enough@reddit
Make sure you downvote this one too lol
mpgiii@reddit
Lmao playing the victim card? How sad
not-geek-enough@reddit
That isn’t very inclusive, tolerant, brave or mostly peaceful!! Oh well just remember to VOOOOTE BLUEEEEEE hahahaha
mpgiii@reddit
Are you okay?
not-geek-enough@reddit
I’ll be better if you just… if you just… help give the world a chance to really get to know Kamala! CNN said we haven’t had that opportunity to really know who she is! 🤣😥
mpgiii@reddit
You're actually schizo-posting right now. I think you need to take a little break. You're arguing against nobody.
not-geek-enough@reddit
Didn’t you read what OP posted?! Trump sat in a room while the absolutely worst day on American soil happened!! Jan 6 was horror! It was so baaaad! The worst!! And OP believes in facts! Please!!! Please!!! Please give us another 4 years of the same!
mpgiii@reddit
Again, arguing against nobody. Enjoy arguing against strawmen and screaming into the void, I guess
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I love how these people replying to me are just making things up about what I wrote like its not right there for the people to read 😂.
NaMean@reddit
They literally have nothing. So they have to devolve into little mental patients to try not feel that L.
NaMean@reddit
I think you (and last night) broke these fools...lol
not-geek-enough@reddit
The rain is going around me!
not-geek-enough@reddit
Aaahhhjhhh AAHHHJHHHHHHH
iLikeSmallGuns@reddit
Wars started under Biden that probably would have been avoided with a stronger president.
The short answer, the democrat party isn’t really controlled by who you vote for. They use propaganda to get you to vote for weak people that they can control. They control most mainstream media outlets and viciously attack any candidate that may make things difficult for them.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Hold up... We're blaming the President of the United States of America for wars started by terrorists and dictators in other countries now? 😂 Boy I swear y'all really be reaching.
As far as the rest of your conspiracy theories. 😂😂😆😂😆😂
iLikeSmallGuns@reddit
You underestimate how much power the USA has (well had at this point), that’s all. Putin and Kim met with Trump because they respected him and saw him as an equal, not beneath them. It’s not a conspiracy just an observation. Shitty people will try to get away with whatever they think you’ll allow.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Your opinion of the meeting sure differs from people that were actually there 😂.
iLikeSmallGuns@reddit
At the end of the day - There’s no comparison, most things have been much worse the last 4 years than it was under republicans. You’re clearly just on here looking for arguments. Republicans aren’t angry people like the democrats are.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
No way life has been much worse than it was 4 years ago but ok.
I made valid points and all you could do is reply with the typical Earth 2 rabbiting on.
iLikeSmallGuns@reddit
Name some things that have been better in peoples lives on a daily basis :) I’ll be waiting.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Time to learn something. Facts over feelings. https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
iLikeSmallGuns@reddit
There we go now we’ve uncovered the truth. You whipped out the BS list of democrat propaganda, you’ve been brainwashed.
People generally care about:
House prices Groceries Gas Interest rates Rent prices
All of which have been worse. Just go vote for your puppet, have a nice day :)
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Of course something you didn't read is propaganda, comrade.
beavis617@reddit
I have nothing nice to say about Tulsi Gabbard or Nikki Haley...😕
tuepm@reddit
Nikki is a Republican toeing the company line at least. Tulsi has completely betrayed her own values in an attempt to secure a cabinet position in Trump's administration. I agree they're both just trying to preserve their political careers but Tulsi is acting a bit more icky in my opinion.
yobrotom@reddit
She betrayed YOUR values you thought you shared with her because you were too ignorant to understand her beliefs. She didn't betray her own.
tuepm@reddit
This is such a dumb thing to say because you have no idea what my values are so you couldn't possible know if it's true. It must have just sounded good in your head so you posted with CAPS LOCK for emphasis. Here is a link to her positions in 2019. I will list some of them for you:
Climate change: Mandate an end to the use of fossil fuels for electricity by 2050. Ban fracking.
Education: Tuition-free community college for all and tuition-free public university for most families.
Guns: Ban assault weapons and require universal background checks.
Health care: Create “Medicare for All,” a universal, government-sponsored health care system.
Social Issues: Protect abortion rights. Ban discrimination based on sexual preference, identity.
This is just the first 5. Do any of those sound like the platform that Donald Trump is running on to you? To me, they sound like the exact opposite of what Trump would like to do. It's silly for you to post about things that you don't understand at all with such confidence.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
And in less than 2 years she's completely flipped and people think she hasn't changed. 😂
yobrotom@reddit
Little man mad about punctuation lol.
A few talking points about peripheral issues don't outweigh individual rights and freedom to self determination. If you understand WHY she championed those points in the first place you'd understand why she's chosen to side with Trump. But your surface level understanding of politics makes you BLIND to the real issues cos your a democrat puppet.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Holy word salad Batman.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
She betrayed her oath though.
lady_guard@reddit
I do respect that Nikki called out Trump for the way he talks about women, and I agree with her that he will not win an election continually referring to Harris as a "stupid woman".
felixthewug_03@reddit
Finally some sane people on this sub holy christ.
Zazierx@reddit
Going from a democrat supporting Biden in 2020 to a Republican, Fox News regular, and Trump supporter in 2024 tells me she has no real principles.
At this point I think whoever pays her the most she will support.
felixthewug_03@reddit
Tulsi also supported Bernie as well. I think this is why Liz Cheney's endorsement holds more weight - she's a very staunch conservative and always has been. Dick Cheney as well. The idea that they'd vote for a Democrat just sounds insane.
Tulsi's views and support just flows with the wind. She really doesn't have any principles.
dillasdonuts@reddit
Kamala went from Medicare for all to saying we can't afford it. Kamala went from pro palestine to publicly making it clear she will stand behind Israel. She's an establishment Democrat who will do anything to rise the ranks in the political system.
Shes part of the administration that is complicit in genocide and continues to approve 20+ billion in military aide despite seeing and acknowledging the atrocities being committed.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
As far as your first comment, you know Tulsi switched up her stance mutliple times during her campaign in 2020? She called a bill she co-sponsored "un-American." Kamala Harris never said what you claim she said.
Harris has consistently supported a two-state solution, so what are you talking about?
Framing her career as purely self-serving overlooks her advocacy on issues like criminal justice reform, climate action, and civil rights. Y'all gotta stop thinking people that aren't white men can't advance in their career by doing the work.
Saying she's part of an administration that is "complicit in genocide" because they give money to help Israel is not quite right. Don't sit here and act like President Biden is out here saying kill everyone in Gaza. The U.S. helps Israel for security reasons, and it's Congress, not the president, that passes the bills to approve military aid.
For example, the U.S. would be considered complicit in genocide if it directly supported or encouraged acts that intentionally harm or kill large groups of people. Instead, the government is concerned about harm to civilians and is working to help solve the problems and support peace. Calling them “complicit in genocide” makes things sound too simple and doesn't show the full picture of what they're trying to do.
:)
dillasdonuts@reddit
I'm not a Tulsi supporter, i joined this sub back when she ran as a Democrat..she's gone crazy since.
2 state solution but funding 20+ billion to Israel's genocide
I'm a liberal minority from California that knows kamala's history first hand. Not just what MSM pumps out.
AIPAC :)
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
dillasdonuts@reddit
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I aked you a question.
So, let say she does what you say she should do.... you think the Republican controlled House is going to listen to her?
dillasdonuts@reddit
I never said anything misleading about Kamala and i don't support tulsi.
This what if scenario is irrelevant. She's already stated her position.
Kamala was endorsed by the establishment and this had 3x the fund campaigns. Also, only beat a Republican by 0.8% in a blue state.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I thought you was a defense attorney or something? Or did you mean you played one in a youtube video?
dillasdonuts@reddit
You called it misleading simply because you support Kamala because she's a Democrat.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
No I called it misleading because it was 😂.
dillasdonuts@reddit
How so?
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Go back to my original response it's right there.
dillasdonuts@reddit
Homie you keep calling me misleading and now want me to figure it out on my own.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I told you what was misleading. Maybe you should actually read what I wrote?
dillasdonuts@reddit
Nah I'm not interested in doing that.
If you know your point, you should know your point. Cheers.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
😂😂😂😂
not-geek-enough@reddit
sundubone@reddit
Bingo and look how she is "honored" to have Dick Cheney's endorsement! Look at the war cabinet that Biden has currently... a bunch of liberal hawks and now all these Iraq war Neo Conservatives embracing Kamala!
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
sundubone@reddit
Antony Blinken
Avril Haines
Linda Thomas-Greenfield
Michèle Flournoy
Jake Sullivan
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Sidenote, are you going to answer my 1st question?
sundubone@reddit
Why would a true progressive be honored to get an endorsement of a war criminal that said...
"The U.S. invasion “was the right thing to do, and if we had to do it again, we would do exactly the same thing.” - Cheney, Meet the Press, Sept. 2006
I mean...
300,000 Iraqis and 4,000 US military dead
Abu Ghraib prison
Haliburton (KBR 1.2 billion Iraq reconstruction contract and development of "fracking”)
Guantanamo
But yeah... Kamala is HONORED to get this guy's endorsement! LOL
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
So, are you going to answer my 1st question?
not-geek-enough@reddit
Why on earth did you have to mention the infamous Jan 6th?!! THE WORST DAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES! Maybe even the world! It was SOOOO bad
juflyingwild@reddit
I'd use r/warmongersUSA for reference.
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Wars under the current Secretary of State: 0
Checkmate.
sundubone@reddit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/america-first-is-only-making-the-world-worse-heres-a-better-approach/2019/01/01/1272367c-079f-11e9-88e3-989a3e456820_story.html
Look who authored this TOGETHER?
Antony J. Blinken and who? ROBERT KAGAN. Why don't you google him?
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
I don't need to Google him. I know that the US has not been in any wars or direct conflicts with any nation under this current administration. So this liberal hawk and warmonger talk is nothing but talking points.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
Yeah let's just completely ignore the fact that not only are Republicans also Zionists, they also want to enact Project 2025.
dillasdonuts@reddit
Why are you sweeping what I said under the rug and diverting attention back to the Republicans? That strategy has led to the massive decline of the party, away from the working class and now representing the corporate elite.
Hold your elected officials accountable.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
Because in my estimation, when faced with a choice between two regimes that are both okay with genocide and will both continue to give financial aid and weapons to Israel, I am going to choose the one that does actually have voices within trying to dissuade the endorsement of genocide (such as AOC), and also doesn't want to label me (a bisexual man and trans ally) as pornographic and arrest me for it.
dillasdonuts@reddit
The question isn't who you're gonna vote for (Trump's an idiot, I agree), it's why you refuse to talk about the faults of the democratic party.
Democrats avoid that topic like the plague.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
Just to be clear, I have no problem with holding the government to accountability. I am not a hard-core Democrat, I just usually end up voting with them because their policies tend to align closer to my personal beliefs.
I will vote for a Republican, or even a viable third party if one is ever allowed to arise. If they have values and platforms similar to my own ideology.
Tulsa Gabbard at one time embodied a lot of those ideals. But she has made a really baffling turn here and it's not something I can get behind.
sundubone@reddit
We were all baffled by her turn. Do yourself a favor and read her book and you know exactly why.
felixthewug_03@reddit
Not just an idiot. A felon. Among many other things. I dont think you can blame people for being averse to that.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
The original post was about why Tulsi is supporting Trump, i.e. influencing who you are going to vote for.
Silly me for thinking you were sticking to the topic at hand.
dillasdonuts@reddit
You didn't respond to the original post, you responded to me calling out Kamala. You defended Kamala by talking about the Republicans.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
...and you were responding to a response to the original post which was asking people to posit reasons why Tulsi would endorse ine running mate over the other.
Again, silly me for thinking you were responding to the original intent/nature of the OP.
My bad I guess.
dillasdonuts@reddit
Semantics are irrelevant.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
"Context is for Kings," eh?
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
There goes that buzzword. "Corporate elite." lol.
Last time I checked, the Democrats didn't pass a tax bill that benefitted BILLIONAIRES.
dillasdonuts@reddit
Clinton deregulated Wall Street, Obama bailed out wall street. :)
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Clinton was President 30 years ago.
Obama hasn't been President in like 8 years.
Can we stick to the current and last administration please?
dillasdonuts@reddit
Clinton was the start of the Dems shift from being the party of the working class to that of the tech/corporate elite. The party is now moderate/right of center.
MaximusGrandimus@reddit
Also kind of hard for me to get behind the party that thinks of J6 as some harmless fun
BarryLicious2588@reddit
Just say you're a Democrat echo chamber haha we get it. Nobody is going to change your mind
But Trump didn't tell anyone to breach the Capitol. Do we really need to rewatch the 7min+ compilation of democrats using "fight" words?
Holy shit this a pathetic post with no facts 🤣
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
You won't do it because no one here does, but tell me, what in my post was false? Cite the "facts" and I will gladly correct my post.
BarryLicious2588@reddit
I'd rather argue with a wall because it would at least listen
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
And you claim I'm in an echo chamber. lol.
BarryLicious2588@reddit
You are. You didn't say any original thoughts "stand back and stand by" hahaha he literally denounced white supremacy and youre still saying he didnt.
So like I said, nobody is going to change your mind. I recognize the username, you've done this shit before. Find a new hobby
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
You're the one in the echo chamber. Claim I am saying wrong things in my post, but won't prove that I'm wrong because you claim my mind won't be changed. It's you that don't want their mind changed.
I don't recognize your username, but you're just like your type. :)
not-geek-enough@reddit
I’m sure we just need to get to know Kamala hahahah but yeah why would a respected veteran and former member of congress call out another empty suit?
Ibo-Naw@reddit (OP)
Who are you talking about?
not-geek-enough@reddit
It doesn’t matter hahah you’re too far gone VOOOTE BLUEEEEE hahahah