"Frightening" Taliban law bans women from speaking in public
Posted by ThevaramAcolytus@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 94 comments
Posted by ThevaramAcolytus@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 94 comments
Arrow156@reddit
Far-right westerners are watching this happen with bated breath and frantic note taking. Bigots are brothers and misogyny is their shared language. If they weren't nit-picking over prophets they would be the best of friends.
DidijustDidthat@reddit
Donald Trump is literally the person responsible for this!
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Where are the protests screaming "free afghanistan". It boggles the mind. Everyone is protesting Gaza, after gaza....yes Gaza....took part in slaughtering 1200 people at a concert. They danced and cheered at the hostages where paraded around. They call israel an apartheid state lol. Why are there not massive protests against the taliban?
DidijustDidthat@reddit
Jesus Christ on these threads as well?
Icedoverblues@reddit
Dead children don't make noise. One on the head and one in the heart. Those Israeli soldiers that raped women and were arrested. What was israeli's reaction to that?
Let's see if this posts
sup_heebz@reddit
What Israeli soldiers that raped women? Do you have a link?
GoldenBull1994@reddit
It was international news. How do you not know about it?
sup_heebz@reddit
Should be easy to provide a source then
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
OP is mistaken. Israelis prefer boys
sup_heebz@reddit
Cool YouTube interview with no proof, anyway one quarter of all girls in Palestine are married as children and there's 40 million child brides in the MENA region right now
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
Oh, you want more? Here's a video of an IDF terrorist raping a detainee. And here's him bragging about it. And here are random Israeli terrorists demonstrating in support of his actions. And here's is the IDF rapist on TV being treated like a celebrity. And here's him being blessed by a rabbi. But hey, aren't Israelis just lovely people?
sup_heebz@reddit
There's no rape on that video, you don't understand sarcasm, they were demonstrating because he was wrongly accused, he's on TV because he was wrongly accused, the rabbi blessed him because he was wrongly accused, and yes they are :)
ExArdEllyOh@reddit
The majority seem to want them prosecuted.
Icedoverblues@reddit
They rioted and got them released. The majority seem to be very quiet or a severe minority. Either way. Change won't happen until that majority becomes as vocal and aggressive as the ones that wanted rapists released.
proterraria@reddit
Can you link the story of the rape I did t hear about it
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
It boggles my mind that you think using this news to shit on people protesting genocide is a good look.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
What genocide????
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
Please keep exposing yourself. You're only hurting your own cause and I'm all for it.
afkurzz@reddit
Probably because we already know how freeing Afghanistan plays out.
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
And by "freeing" you mean murdering a bunch of people and forcing the rest to live under our puppet government at gunpoint?
afkurzz@reddit
A. The whole comment was sarcastic, including "freeing"
B. What's your plan? You seem to have it all figured out.
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
You don't always need an alternative plan to a shitty plan. The US obviously went into Afghanistan for its own geopolitical interests. Maybe it should stop doing that.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Agreed. They let the taliban survive. Can't make that mistake with hamas,
John-Mandeville@reddit
Let? The USSR, which was willing to get its hands very dirty indeed, also lost to an Afghan insurgency. There is no way to impose our values on them without occupying the country for decades, killing many millions, and spending trillions.
00x0xx@reddit
Only a small population in Afghanistan agrees with the Taliban's policies. However the majority of Afghanistan will always band together, regardless of political issues to fight an outside invader, especially an invader that allies with warlords.
Now that there is no longer an outside invader, I'm sure in the comming years we will hear about the grievance that liberal Afghani's have against the Taliban.
IMHO, that region was and will always be inhospital to stable civilization state, regardless of who lives there.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit (OP)
Not from the liberal Afghan women if the grievances go above a certain decibel level...
But yeah, even though I posted the original article because it's an interesting and important matter which deserves coverage, if the gist of what you're saying is that it's ultimately Afghanistan's own sovereign internal affairs and business what their domestic policies are, concerning girls and women or anything else, I agree.
Because the reality is that countries - I shouldn't even have to say it and it should go without saying, but including the U.S., never have selfless altruistic reasons for invading and occupying any country. Not now and not at any time in history.
And if there ever were such selfless and altruistic powers, it's then still a completely unreasonable thing to ask, to require another foreign country to sacrifice the lives of their own soldiers, spend trillions of dollars, and decades building and organizing another country. That's for the people there themselves. What people don't like to hear is that it may not benefit any one random individual in the present and may sacrifice the current generation or multiple generations in the meantime, which future changes won't retroactively save, but that's realistically how actual lasting change happens most effectively.
LegkoKatka@reddit
Didn't realise 40,000 civilians were Hamas, including journalist and aid workers.
ExArdEllyOh@reddit
Well 40,000 aren't all civilian, a significant number are resistance-rapists because Hamas doesn't distinguish between a child being used as a human shield and a "fighter" shot down with his trousers around his ankles.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
So the gaza health ministry has said 40k Palestinians are dead. 100% civilians right
Funoichi@reddit
The number is 180 thousand dead. Israel has lost mandate to exist.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Hahaha. Tell me you haven't actually read the lancet article without telling me. "Hypothetical worst case future scenario"
Smh
Israel will exist. đ
Funoichi@reddit
Israel is 75 years old. We are working to make sure they donât get another. Israel itself is our ally in this by their behavior.
Once bds is in power in the us, and that will be soon, Israel is toast.
Current numbers. 180 thousand. Provide other numbers if you wish to dispute the numbers provided.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Go read the article and show me where it says 180k currently dead. It doesn't lol.
I'm sure bds will be in power .
Now if you'll excuse me. Virtual land auction in the west Bank starting soon. I can't miss it!
Have a great day. I am sending you a warm zionist hug wrapped up in a Virtual israeli flag while I watch those arms shipments land via flight tracker. Good luck boycotting Starbucks. đ¤
Funoichi@reddit
Hereâs a warm hug right back at you wrapped in the Hamas and Houthi flag.
Bds doesnât need to actually be in power, we just need to force the politicians into a reasonable stance.
Even Harris is seeing that with the uncommitted movement. Thereâs also the un and icc to aid us. Then we nuclear disarm the region and institute one state freed Palestine from river to sea.
hoffenone@reddit
Ok, and what will happen to the jews living in Israel if Palestine becomes one state from the river to the sea?
proterraria@reddit
Idc about the points you made but supporting the houthis as an American is just making you look like an edgy teenager they literally have death to America in their flag
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Lol. Hugs
2Rich4Youu@reddit
We "let" the Taliban survive because we were unable to destroy them...
Unecessary_Past_342@reddit
Hamas will survive. If your people aren't used to regularly carrying 100 pounds of gear across hilly, blasted, hot terrain from adolescence then you're simply going to lose to the people who are. Just a matter of time.
Rindan@reddit
You didn't really think this one through, did you? What exactly do you think protesting the Taliban in NYC does?
You don't have to be sympathetic to a cause to understand it. People protesting what is happening in Gaza are protesting to get their governments to act. In the case of the Americans in particular, it's to get the US government to stop arming Israel. There is nothing to demand if the US government in regards to the Taliban. The US already had almost no relationship with the Taliban and actively sanctions them. There is no demand for protests to make.
Are you pretending to be ignorant and not understand this pretty basic and obvious point as some sort of debating tactic, or are you genuinely this ignorant?
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Yep. I'm ignorant. Funny because I don't think israel has been armed enough. And also believe Israel has been too restrained. Israel and America need to stop pampering the Palestinians and say "look, you've lost every genocidal war you've started. Israel is not going to be destroyed. You need to take the next statehood offer. Beggars can't be choosers"
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
And not very bright either. Either that or you think the rest of us are complete morons.
Rindan@reddit
You seem to be unable to separate your feelings on a topic with understanding why other people feel a different way. You don't need to agree with someone to understand their position.
In this case, you seemed confused by people would protest American funding of Israel during the Gaza war, but not protest in the US against the Taliban.
You can understand why people protest the US funding Israel while also understanding why those same people don't protest in the West over the Taliban, while also wanting more funding to Israel. It's not hard of you can separate your strong feelings about how you want the world to be with how and why other people feel differently.
Steely_McNeatHouse@reddit
That's a big "IF" right there. The world would be a much better place IF more people and leaders grew up enough to have this ability.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Are you over it Rindan? Can I recommend a suport group?
Revelrem206@reddit
Just curious, what's your opinion on Russia?
2Rich4Youu@reddit
you sound like an emotional 16 year old
cocobisoil@reddit
Or Russian
theonlymexicanman@reddit
Is the US funding the Taliban through billions in military aid?
Maybe thatâs why thereâs protests for other conflicts and issues and not this one
Surv1ver@reddit
When, when in the fucking entire length of human history has the United States of America ever supported the fucking Taliban.Â
Best_Pseudonym@reddit
When the Italian were fighting the soviets
Surv1ver@reddit
The Taliban never fought the Soviets, youâre confusing the Mujahideens with the Taliban. Two completely different groups. The Mujahideens was an afghan group of freedom fighters aided by the CIA, Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states. After the Soviet withdraw their troops ending their occupation the mujahideens turned into the northern alliance, the afghan government that we supported who fought Taliban, which is a group of students from the Quran schools in Pakistan, who invaded and took over most of Afghanistan prior to NATO getting involved.Â
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit (OP)
This isn't exactly correct. The Mujahideen was not the Taliban, yes, you're right, and a lot of people either honestly don't know the difference and mistake the two or dishonestly knowingly conflate the two. But the Mujahideen wasn't just the proto-Northern Alliance or predecessor of any one faction. A lot of Taliban followers - those who would found the Taliban and the rank-and-file fighters, were part of the Mujahideen. At the time they were allied with Northern Alliance fighters under that same umbrella and all receiving foreign (U.S., British, Pakistani, Saudi, Egyptian, etc.) support.
It was only after that the Mujahideen would splinter into different factions (of course there were organizations like some of the Shia groups which already existed at the time simultaneously with it in the 80s) which led to the Afghan civil war after the Soviet withdrawal.
So it's wrong to say they "were" the Taliban but also wrong to say they were not when they were comprised of both soon-to-be Taliban and Taliban opponents.
Surv1ver@reddit
Most people conflate the two because ruSSbots keep spamming the internet with the same propaganda over and over again. Itâs amazing how little attention is paid to the deliberate effort of undermining the west and especially the US, somehow the west has simultaneously managed to be in a holy war against Islam, going all the way back to the crusades and simultaneously be the founders and financiers behind Islamist groups like the Taliban according to the ruSSbots.Â
ExaminatorPrime@reddit
You are asking radical liberals to have a coherent value system. They do not. The people they follow on the internet told them to hate Israel so they do. Nevermind that most people in Gaza would have no problems destroying most of the things that said liberals value, like womens rights and the lgbt community.
Gingingin100@reddit
How lacking in moral fiber do you have to be to bring out the chickens for KFC argument. Like you realise it makes you look like a sociopath right?
ExaminatorPrime@reddit
Ah yes, people in Gaza, just like the people in the article above, just love the lgbt community, feminism and women's rights. You are delusional. "Muh buzzword" is a badge of honor at this point.
Gingingin100@reddit
They don't, literally who cares? Just because they have very shitty opinions doesn't mean they deserve ethnic cleansing over insane religious and ethnonationalist ideals.
ExaminatorPrime@reddit
"Do you not have basic morals? Basic empathy?" He says, while defending people that on october 7th went door to door in jewish villages and shot entire families, women, elderly and children included, piling up nearly 1200 dead, which started this whole war in the first place. Yeah, I see your "empathy" and I'm not buying into it. Jesus and Buddha would've slapped you in the face.
Gingingin100@reddit
When did I defend Hamas? Stop pulling shit out of your ass dude. Seriously, I'm not an amalgamation of every person you ever argued with on this topic.
There are objectively civilians in Gaza who hold no fault in the ongoing war who hate queer people, just because they're shitty people, they do not deserve to be eradicated by the fight between Hamas and the IDF. You using them as a cheap shot at perceived radical liberals is lacking in basic empathy and frankly bloody insane.
sup_heebz@reddit
They're not being eradicated. The population of Gaza is higher today than it was on the 7th. This will make you mad, because no one wants dead Palestinians more than "pro-Palestinians"
ExaminatorPrime@reddit
Civilians get hurt in wars, that has always been the case. You are angry that I called out your side for being what they are, delusional for supporting actual terrorists. Frankly, I find your support and whitewashing of unhinged, radical islam by reducing it to "shitty opinions" comedic at best. If that is your empathy, your empathy is worth less than the pavement outisde.
Icedoverblues@reddit
Dead children make no noise. One in the head and one on the heart.
The Taliban lied to everyone about intent. The IDF lies to everyone for American tax payer dollars. The women those IDF soldiers raped then arrested for what were Israeli's reaction to men being held for raping women?
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
I don't know even know what you are talking about. Keep writing the letters though. I'm sure Palestine will be freed by them
No_Leading3973@reddit
I wonder why.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Yeah your barking up the wrong tree with me. Israel is being too restrained with hamas
No_Leading3973@reddit
Ofc you see dead children as HAMAS. Wait does that mean Israeli children can be seen as IDF soldiers as well? I sure hope not.
sup_heebz@reddit
Hamas uses child soldiers. Recruits as young as nine.
Agitated-Quit-6148@reddit
Show ,e where the idf hides behind israeli kids. F gaza.
theDrummer@reddit
Deranged comment
Arrow156@reddit
Because the Taliban will make a snuff video of you being tortured to death if you so much as fart in their direction.
ceciliabee@reddit
Have you organized a protest? Be the change you wish to see in the world and all
Icedoverblues@reddit
Oh trump supporting traitor. Sounds about right
AkagamiBarto@reddit
You see, these are obvious scenarios where having a form of control over nations would be relevant. Because this very law violates a fundamental right and therefore could not be passed under Earth Government.
da_river_to_da_sea@reddit
Uh, says who?
AkagamiBarto@reddit
The founded of Earth Government
Arrow156@reddit
Yeah, good luck getting everyone on the planet to agree on a single set of morals, let alone legal framework or government. We got people who believe their next door neighbors are vile sub-humans worthy only of extinction just because of minor regional differences in their fairy tales.
AkagamiBarto@reddit
Who cares about a single set of morals?
We need a set of laws within which different moral sets can coexist.
The fundation for Earth Government is unanimity (or as close as we can get to unanimity). Example: noone when being a child wants to die -> right to life -> killing is wrong (unless for defense)
Extend this principle whenever you can. If you can't then, not our business.
Arrow156@reddit
You can't build a functioning legal system unless everyone is on the same page when it comes to distinguishing right from wrong. Conflicting morality means conflicting applications of law; those who don't believe the law to be moral/ethical won't willingly follow or enforce it.
AkagamiBarto@reddit
And here i am, following laws I don't believe in. And anyway, within every nation you will find people supporting your laws.
It will be a slow process, but successful nonetheless.
Arrow156@reddit
You'll also see just as much, if not more, effort in evading and breaking laws than following them. Think of the dozens of little civil violations that we all break every single day. Speeding, jaywalking, littering, feeding the homeless, smoking within 40 feet of a business entrance, etc etc etc. Then there's organized crime like prostitution or drug dealing, which tend to cause far more problems when they are banned than when they are legal and regulated. And lets not even get into white collar crime which is so rampant that the fines and fees for violating them considered more of a tax than a disincentive.
AkagamiBarto@reddit
if you mean that crime increases because there are more laws to break, sure, that's true, but that doesn't change the fact.
Take speeding, people will go above 50 on a certain road with or without the law. But with the law you overall stop a few and protect more civilians. It's literally better than nothing.
If going above 50 wasn't forbidden, you'd have more people goin above it.
Maximum_Impressive@reddit
Babies are legit dying of malnutrition and this is the most important thing to focus on . With that said not surprising in that regard for the region.
ExArdEllyOh@reddit
Malnutrition is happening precisely because of the sort of attitude that causes these laws.
This is what happens when one of the major criteria for running the country is having a sufficiently long beard - it doesn't matter if they haven't got two braincells to rub together.
Shredswithwheat@reddit
Hmm wait, so all it would take to bring down the government is a vigilante with a razor?
Maximum_Impressive@reddit
Agreed
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SpinningHead@reddit
They need to quit giving Texas ideas.
Good_Nyborg@reddit
1 Timothy 2:12
Pretty common religious doctrine to silence women as it turns out.
ExaminatorPrime@reddit
"Look at me guys, Christians did that too! 'Pulls up some ancient quote nobody follows' #nohate #nobigotry.
Yeah, you look so virtuous defending the Taliban. Bet that's going to give you lots of female attention my dude. How can women resist that shining virtue you are displaying by defending people that want to enslave them?
Fish_Fingers2401@reddit
Which countries are currently enforcing this?
NegativeWar8854@reddit
When was this a law, ever?
dafyddil@reddit
False equivalence and the shitty thing is you know youâre being dishonest.
StatusTip8319@reddit
Way to take stuff out of context to fit your claim. The verse refers to the conduct of church worship, in which Paul was addressing a concern we donât know much about, likely to do with the lack of discipline in worship. Paul was surrounded by women he held in high regard such as Phoebe, who he refers to as âdeaconâ.
If you didnât cut the verse off, you would also notice that he refers to respecting the âlawâ. This has two interpretations, Roman law or Jewish law. In both cases, Christianity was breaking down major hurdles for women by insisting that all are made equal in the image of God. These ideas were revolutionary and the cause of brutal suppression. It wouldnât be far fetched to assume he wanted to avoid oppression in the early days of the Church.