Is my shop correct about the acrid smell coming off my newly replaced brake pads and rotors?
Posted by HookFE03@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 26 comments
I have a 2018 ford explorer and I just had the rear brake pads and rotors replaced on them.
After a bit of driving there’s a pretty acrid smell coming off them (kind of a roasted clutch type of odor). The shop said this isn’t uncommon with new brake parts with the factory coatings on them and I should give it a few days to and see if it improves
Hoping to get some opinions on that here? Does that ring true with other mechanics?
Ok_Beyond2156@reddit
Not abnormal if they cut corners and didn't clean the coating off the rotors with brake cleaner before mounting them.
thejman78@reddit
Did you happen to purchase replacement pads and rotors from a shop that promises free lifetime replacement?
If so, the pads themselves are likely very cheap and almost certainly operating "within normal parameters." Cheap brake pads contain poor quality resins that smell like burnt ass when they get hot enough. They won't last long, but the shop doesn't mind if you come back in six months or a year for free pads. They get to sell you on other maintenance work while you're there.
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
They didn’t offer a lifetime warranty, but that’s kinda what the guy said when I called and asked (he didn’t mention the cheapness obviously), it was cheaper than I expected it to be. One of the placement parts says “brakebest select pro” if that’s any indicator
thejman78@reddit
It's definitely the pads.
Next time, see if they'll let you bring your own pads for the same price. OR, if you're feeling saucy, try doing them yourself. There are lots of great tutorials and it's not as hard as you might think. You can save a small fortune. :)
Leviathan-Vyde@reddit
With how new the car is, he may need to open the callipers because of the motor on the calliper.
thejman78@reddit
Good point!
User_R60@reddit
As a 30 year mechanic who's done well over 1000 sets of pads and rotors (about 10% of those on vehicles that were mine or that I drove regularly), I can tell you this is normal for a few days, but should fade away completely within a week, dependent on your driving conditions of course. If it doesn't then you've got another issue, could be unrelated, or could've been poor workmanship in the brake replacement. I've used all sorts of modern brakes, and they all have at least a little bit of that smell when they're new for the first few days. I saw you mentioned BrakeBest, they're cheap, but decent quality, I try to avoid them because it's usually only a few dollars more for a much better quality set of pads. Any brake pads with a ceramic composite compound (which are most nowadays since asbestos is banned in them in the US) require a bedding procedure, though some can be supplanted coating the pads in an additional resin and baking them in an oven before installing them on the vehicle. It's best to follow the pad manufacturer's recommendations for this. Semi-Metallic pads usually do not require bedding, but do have a break-in period. Regardless of the type, what you're smelling is the binding resin in the friction material of the pad (the resin that holds all the bits of the friction material together in one solid piece) basically melting and depositing a layer onto the surface of the rotor as some of the friction material burns away, and this is essential for proper brake function and performance. Once the layer of resin is fully formed on the rotor surface, the smell should go away as the layer of resin on the rotor surface will act as a sort of lubricant to keep the friction material from burning as you brake normally.
the_Bryan_dude@reddit
No. Your brakes should not smell like that ever. There is no need to "bed" your brakes.
I guarantee they did not live the caliper slides and the pads are hanging up.
If you smell what you are describing there is something wrong. Your brakes should never smell like that.
The rest of these comments are uninformed opinions from clueless amateurs. They are very wrong.
thejman78@reddit
Depends on the type of pad. An OE or OE-replacement pad won't require any bedding process, only some manufacturers still recommend a break-in process (like AISIN).
Performance pads will often come with full bedding instructions, and bedding is essential on the really aggressive pad compounds marketed as race ready.
the_Bryan_dude@reddit
Idiots putting race car parts on their daily aren't very bright. Especially brakes. They don't work until they are hot. They're actually losing performance.
I'll change my statement. You don't need to bed your brakes on your street car unless you're an idiot and put race car parts on your daily.
thejman78@reddit
Some of us have to drive our track cars to the track you know...
OutinDaBarn@reddit
You might want to look up Power Stop Brakes and their required procedure for new brakes.
I've found the best way to get NAPA branded brakes to stop squealing is to bed them. Actually the best way is to not buy them in the first place.
I'm not a mechanic, I managed a 200 vehicle fleet though.
the_Bryan_dude@reddit
There's your problem. You use Napa Crapa.
If bedding your brakes is necessary, you bought antique crap.
wveers96@reddit
This is 100% correct
outline8668@reddit
After your next drive, stop and get out and put your hand on each rim near the caliper. If one is dragging it will be warmer than the rest. Dragging brakes can make a smell. If you have a dragging brake take it back. You could have a caliper piston sticking internally, collapsed brake hose preventing full release, seized caliper guide pin or brake pads that were manufactured such that they are too tight and binding in the caliper bracket.
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
They did replace the caliper guide pin on one of them
TheDu42@reddit
If it smells like clutch, they are getting too hot. If it smells like burning oil, that would be normal-ish, as new rotors are packed in oil and will be a little stinky the first drive or two. But clutch smell screams something is being held constantly and overheating. You didn’t leave the parking brake applied, did you? Otherwise back to the shop
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
That’s what I’m worried about, and am suspecting, I CAN see the gap on the outer pad
TheDu42@reddit
A gap where? Between the pad and the rotor?
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
Yes
TheDu42@reddit
🤦♂️
Take it back, homies done fucked up. Probably didn’t clear the rust build up on the brackets, which keeps the pads from moving freely as intended.
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
Can you tell me what’s up?
TheDu42@reddit
Might be able to get slightly specific if you have pics, but honestly I need to scratch and sniff to be 100%.
IrritablePanda@reddit
Not abnormal.
You can go through procedures to bed your brakes (YouTube it) and it will stink pretty bad, but would definitely reduce the smell after quite a bit.
HookFE03@reddit (OP)
Ahh, I wasn’t aware of bedding. I only got the rear brakes done due to some previous damage, would you avoid bedding with mid life on front brakes? Thanks for responding
IrritablePanda@reddit
It won’t hurt to do it with your front pads as they are.