If you’re fed up with your current situation, consider going work on the North Slope of Alaska
Posted by yung_girth@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 149 comments
Long time lurker on this sub. I’ve seen countless posts about people not being able to find work for a decent wage, or decent employer, and nothing but shit. The oilfields in Alaska might be for you.
2x2 or 3x3 schedule. Companies will pay for your airfare from Anchorage to the slope, you’re responsible for getting yourself to Anchorage. Really good man camps and really good food. Most people gain a lot of weight so beware. 12 hours a day 7 days a week. 40 hours regular time 44 hours overtime every week. I got hired straight out of CDL school and I’m making $30/hr. That’s about 82k per year and that’s only working half the year. It’s the easiest trucking job you’ll ever have, maybe even boring to some. Maximum speed limit is 35mph. The road is flat, straight and you will go to the same places over and over and over again. Everything is closely regulated so none of that cowboy shit like in Texas or New Mexico. You don’t have to worry about not getting loads or getting paid or something. If you fly up it’s 12 hours a day pay. Anything after 8 is overtime.
Anyways, check it out if that sounds interesting. I’m trying to work as little as possible so half the year off for a decent wage works for me. Indeed has tons of jobs. They are about to start hiring quick as the winter season is coming. Godspeed.
Icy_Performer9640@reddit
I wish I could check this out but I have manual restrictions
BenedictCumberdoots@reddit
Fun question:
Where do you live? How do you get groceries? How do you travel around when you aren't working? It looks like a wasteland up there and isn't there mountains of snow the majority of the year?
Fun_Minute7671@reddit
Is it possible to bring a loved one and live near the work sites?
egeorgak12@reddit
How does it work if we currently work and drive in Europe? I have 6 years work experience with tractor trailers here in Europe, currently have a European driver's license, but was born in Canada and have Canadian citizenship. My Canadian driver's license though is for small cars only, no trucks.
I'm sick and tired of the pathetic wages here and want to make some money and fix my life before the years go by and I waste my potential.
Do y'all have any european drivers over there who came to work from abroad?
Last_Cable4726@reddit
Source? Links? Or name of companies?
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
www dot “Get yo ass some bunny boots quick” dot com😂
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
I prefer Mukluks
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Not ridin sno gos
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
well, no.... but for just being on foot for a bit, and in and out of a truck, they are just fine. Plus keeps the feet from getting too sweaty. They worked for folks that were out in the weather for a thousand years or so. They worked just fine in a heated cab, Plus the moisture retention problem wasn't really a problem with the heater blowing on them going down the road.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
My bunnies are pot holder for plants. 😂
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
I paid like 225 for my mukluks. The bunny boots were 85 or so at a surplus joint off of Wainright . I preferred the muk... way more flexible.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Yea at Ray’s there a lil spendy to be standing in a puddle of your own foot sweat. But they work. A Native make them for you?
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
No, I got them at some place or another in Fairbanks. I was hoping to find some at Prospector, since I got a bunch of my gear there. Apparently they used to carry them, but about a year or so before I went up there, they stopped selling them.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
It’s a great store. They get lots of my money.
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
Edited the post.
meizhong@reddit
Does it have to be 2x2 or 3x3? Can I do like 12 weeks straight and then leave till next year?
Star_Wargaming@reddit
Have you done this already, or are you embarking on this journey for the first time?
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
Doing it. Currently here now.
Star_Wargaming@reddit
So the man camps up in the north slope borough, and that's where you stay on your 12 off right?
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
Correct. I stay in Deadhorse but there are camps all over. It depends on your job and company and what you’re doing.
Star_Wargaming@reddit
Then they fly you down to Anchorage for your time off, and I'm assuming you can stay there on your own dime or fly home?
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
Correct. I live in anchorage so it makes it easy. But people just fly back to anchorage and then to Seattle and then back to where ever they live. Theres a few other cities you can fly to from anchorage but I would say the majority of people fly to Seattle and then connect from there.
Star_Wargaming@reddit
I'm in Phoenix, so Seattle would be my connecting city. Are the 2x2 and 3x3 enforced in terms of they make you take your time off? Because I would want to do 4 to 6 weeks driving straight, then take 2 or 3 weeks off. Because if I am making 3000ish per week, but only working half the time, I can make around 1500 per week here locally and just work a normal schedule and be home every night next to my wife.
Jasonunlimited@reddit
Sounds too good to be true…
chaoss402@reddit
Working 84 hours a week three weeks straight, have to fly yourself to Alaska, all for 80k a year? Seems decent for a newbie, with no family. Definitely not too good to be true. I'd consider it for twice that much money.
Imaginativested@reddit
OP claims $82k year at only $30 hour and that you can get that 82k in 6 months out there by working 84 hours per week which adds up if you really work 84 hours per week every week but then claims you work 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or 3 weeks on 3 weeks off so really in 6 months you would only make $41k. It's all BS. You will spend 3x more on food and necessities while there and have to pay for plane tickets to and from. Another job for drivers that can't do basic math.
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
lol what? As I said in the post you spend literally zero dollars while you’re up there, so no on the “food and necessities”. What necessities? Every single thing is provided for you. Cooks make you food, housekeepers clean your rooms and provide you with toilet trees, towels, and toilet paper. It’s just like a hotel. But all free. If you read my post you would see that I said the only thing you have to buy is if you want cigarettes or energy drinks. If you buy your flights far in advance it’s not that bad. Most of the people work up here from the lower 48. Now on to the math. 84 hours a week. 40 of those are $30/hr which equals $1200. The other 44 are over time which is $45/hr which equals $1980. Add those two and that’s $3180 per week. Each hitch is 3 weeks which brings that to $9540 for 3 weeks. Since I’m off for 3 weeks after that that’s the grand total for 6 weeks, $9540. Still following? Divide that number by 6 and that’s $1590 per week all year. Multiply that by 52 for a full year. That’s $82,680. Oh yeah that’s also what my W2 says. Perhaps you should check your math.
Imaginativested@reddit
You claimed you only work half the year now you say a full year so which is it? 80k to be gone from home 365 days per year is ridiculous. I make more per hour and year than you while sleeping in my own bed every night with my wife and have a life outside of work.
Emotional-Concept-32@reddit
I make 135k a year and take a month off every summer. Off road truckin is where the money's at. Just be ready to work 100 hour weeks and do some shit in a truck thats 100% sketchy.
bytecollision@reddit
80k in six months
chaoss402@reddit
Six months of work, but that's for the full year. You're also losing time traveling back and forth to the job. And money flying yourself to and from Alaska.
Imaginativested@reddit
84 hours a week sounds too good to be true? They can dip that job in sand and stick it up their ass sideways.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
It's ok....plenty of people that aren't lazy will do that job, and make that money.
CleanSeaPancake@reddit
Ya but it averages out to 42 hour work weeks, and a shit ton of overtime.
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
It’s not
fagydyke@reddit
Will they take a manual restriction?
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
I’d say most probably won’t. A lot of the trucks up here are manual. I’m sure there are some that might but generally speaking no.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
Alaska West has a handful of tractors running fuel up the Dalton. Prob wouldn't hire someone with a restriction though. Trucks break, and the replacement would probably be an 18.
fagydyke@reddit
Fukin megas fucked me over again
Librado65@reddit
Username checks out
fagydyke@reddit
I may be a girl who doesn't care what the gender is if the motherfucker I'm sticking my dick in, but that don't mean imma enjoy Prime up the ass
TwoToadsKick@reddit
If everything is closely regulated how do you work 12 hours a day 7 days a week? Isn't that illegal
smiley82m@reddit
Just like only driving in Texas, you're not driving across state lines, so the state gets different rules.
IEatCouch@reddit
Theres the 150 mile eld exemption for every state, but what regulation are you talkin about with crossing state lines.
AustinLostIn@reddit
I want to know this too. Commercial driving is federally regulated. There's no state laws in HoS that I'm aware of.
Alternative-Jury-981@reddit
Alaska has an exemption, 10 hour break 20 hours on duty 15 driving
AustinLostIn@reddit
Ok I'm .moving to Alaska for 6 months, 3 weeks at a time.
Alternative-Jury-981@reddit
I’ve looked into trucking there that’s the only reason I know, idk what other rules they have tho u should make sure to research it
AustinLostIn@reddit
Yeah, definitely
Commiefornian@reddit
Interstate driving follows Federal HOS rules. Intrastate driving follows state HOS rules.
For example, I’m intrastate in California, and only have to clock out for 8 hours, rather than 10. I can drive 12 hours in 16 hour shifts, rather than 11/14.
AustinLostIn@reddit
Ah
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Yeah… you be driving a very long time (if you were able to) to drive around AK in its entirety. 😂😂
smiley82m@reddit
A tractor and trailer that's built like a sherp? Sounds fun.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Nice 😂
Alternative-Jury-981@reddit
Pretty sure Alaska has different HOS rules
Like you can drive for 15 and be on duty for 20.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
Well... in Alaska you can drive 15 hours, and the day is 20hours instead of 14. Also 80 hour week versus 70. If you only log your "on task time" instead of just being in an on duty/driving status all day, you won't have to worry about the recap. 12 hour days are SHORT up there. I was running the Dalton Highway last Summer, and when it would rain too much and the road got sloppy, you could use every bit of that 15 hours in a 500 mile trip up to Deadhorse from Fairbanks. There are spots in that road where 5mph is too fast. Every now and then you would be idling in 1st or 2nd gear and slipping the clutch to keep from breaking something on the truck. It's not Exactly what the OP is talking about, but that gives you in idea of the conditions up there.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
there are spots where it’s 5mph 😂 As 2 Live Crew rapped 🎶I ain’t Bullshitt’n🎶
You’re literally driving in a field! Let’s be real! In the summer time that “field” has lots of big Grizzlies walking round “Gator needs sum walking around $” n there ain’t shit for days out there. Why is it like that? Snow! Feet n feet n feet of snow.
Ya can’t go more that 35 because of either the road or ice or smoke or mosquitos, or rain…. It’s hardcore. Shit here come the buo gotta stop for them. 😂😂
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
Well, yeah, but I'm not even talking about the seasonal roads, or even out on the field itself. This was the Dalton Highway in the Summer. In the winter, the road is actually faster in most places. For a week or two at a time in the Summer they can get it dialed in to where there places you could run 70+ no problem when there isn't any on coming traffic. And then it rains, and the road crumbles.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Rains everyday in Alaska. 😂
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
Well, yeah... statewide it is, but I have seen entire weeks with barely a sprinkle on the haul road. And in some spots it could rain nonstop and not be a problem.... but between the end of the chip seal North of Coldfoot and the pass? It doesn't take much for that stretch to turn shitty, ESPECIALLY from 5 miles South of Chandalar up until you pass the maint yard before the pass. That mud gets SHITTY.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
I used to drive for Lyden back in 06-09. North Pole resident here. 14 yrs full time, part time now. I was yankin your chain, lol.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
I know. I was working as a contractor for Lynden for half the year last year. Came back South to be closer to home because my Mom got sick. She is better now, and I am wanting to go back up there. Except for the shitty weather, it was the most stress free driving I have ever done. I was getting used to not seeing any traffic for hours at a time.
AustinLostIn@reddit
93 in Nevada from Jackpot to Ely at night is the deadest and darkest and most peaceful road I've ever driven. Lots of wildlife though.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
Well yea. It’s Alaska. Not many ppl there, let alone the haul road. You went n got spoiled is what ya did! Once it’s in your blood, Alaska is a hard place to want to leave. No other place like it. So vast, so much to do, so many state resources, along with the feds, the infrastructure is strong. Add in the North Star Borough is a second class Borough, it makes for a lot of fun to be had.
LitLFlor@reddit
That's insane 15/20 drive/on duty in Alaska?! Ive regularly done 12/16s in California, and disaster relief otr. Running in Alaska seems like it's a non stop disaster relief rules. I got so tired of the no restrictions during COVID. Is the pay at least good?
Uhohlolol@reddit
North of the 60th parallel logbook rules come into effect
nastyzoot@reddit
Oilfield work is usually exempt. So are a lot of commodities. DOT wants the highways safe...but they know where their bread is buttered and by whom.
Naborsx21@reddit
Idk why people think oilfields exempt lmao , it's not
mvamv@reddit
There is an exemption for oilfield. You have to be using a commercial vehicle designed for oilfield, not just any truck with a detachable trailer.
Valac_@reddit
We're exempt from a lot of the "normal" rules
I own a trucking company in the permian.
If you've ever been out there, I assure you you've seen my trucks.
I am happy to answer questions about what we are and are not allowed to do.
Emotional-Concept-32@reddit
It's on our electronic log books. It's literally called "Oilfield exemption permit". There's certain criteria you need to meet in order to even qualify to use it. We can work every day for 21 days, we still can only drive 13 hours a day, with one hour on duty, 2 hours of off duty. Totaling 16 paid hours a day.
Naborsx21@reddit
Yeah in the us it's just waiting time at job sites is considered off duty. Lol And it's an exception not an exemption.
Emotional-Concept-32@reddit
We can show off duty when waiting at the well site. But this only affects our day. There's no cycle, we don't run out of hours for 21 consecutive days. It's way different than cycle 1 or 2. You can legally work max hours for 21 straight days. I'm in Canada tho, not sure how y'all operate down south.
nastyzoot@reddit
And 24 hour restart, and split breaks.
nastyzoot@reddit
Because it's in the FMCSA genius.
Naborsx21@reddit
Yeah there's an exception for waiting time .. no exemptions lol
nastyzoot@reddit
And 24 hour restart, and split breaks.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
It's not exempt because its oilfield. It MAY BE exempt because most of it is local work, and intrastate, and possibly entirely on private property. Especially on the big leases in TX, ND, MT, and AK.
LitLFlor@reddit
In California, you can work 16 hour shifts with 12 hours drive time a day. Or work endlessly, so long as you're within I think is 250 air miles from your home terminal.
redditor012499@reddit
Local drivers are exempt. It’s a secret 🤫
J-Kensington@reddit
If the speed limit is 35, I'd put money down that they're not getting anywhere near 99 air miles, which makes the laws just standard hourly labor laws.
OkinawaNah@reddit
I am the same way less than 50 miles but lots of repetitive in town trips up to 10 and about 250-300 miles. But we still run an ELD.
unlicensed_dentist@reddit
North of 60 is completely different rules.
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
No not illegal. I just know of some people who work like 20 hour shifts in Texas and sleep in their trucks. Thats not really a thing up here. There are security teams around here enforcing speed limits, roads are maintained around the clock by a road crew, etc. It’s just more buttoned up imo.
PROPHETIC4GOD@reddit
As for me I'll stay in the lower 48 states and Ontario,Canada now n than..😊
Trucker_2022@reddit
AFAIK very strict rules about hitting any of the wildlife while driving a CMV, can get fired and the company gets a huge fine. Oilfield was good $$ way back in 2011 onwards, trucker pay has caught up everywhere else that has decent freight, job market. They also used to pay for flights for home time, cheaping out on that too. Yeah may look into it in summer time, maybe.
potodev@reddit
How's the cell service up there? Just wondering if I would be able to chat with my wife or be spending most of the day in dead zones.
up3r@reddit
If you're seriously considering going up there, you can look into a satellite phone. A buddy of mine worked WAY into remote Alaska and AT&T actually worked for him. But satellite could be an option if needed. The biggest obstacle for communication was the time zone difference.
potodev@reddit
Yeah, I just spent a 4 month stretch running reefer OTR without any hometime, so 6 months for a lot more money sounds doable to me. I can drive a manual and have plenty of winter driving experience. Already have some old military surplus mickey boots and asorted winter gear too.
My main concern would be if I get cut off from communication with my wife for too long she will think I'm cheating on her and then I might not have a wife anymore.
I didn't think about a satellite phone. Might be pricey, but I'll look em up. Thanks man.
karrimycele@reddit
Yeah, everyone knows how Alaska is overrun by hot chicks, lol. 🐥
potodev@reddit
My wife is Filipino and still in the Philippines waiting for her visa. She doesn't understand how it is here.
hesslake@reddit
The phone is cheap. My son has one in Alaska when his phone or radio doesn't work. It cost a buck a minute to use
potodev@reddit
Mind sharing what service that is? Does sound a bit pricey, but I could see it being useful for emergencies.
hesslake@reddit
It's not a service it's just a sat phone
potodev@reddit
I mean the name or brand?
Librado65@reddit
Are there snow bunnies? Hot tamales? Where can a single man go for entertainment besides try to lasso and tie up a moose? Us southern folks wanna know
Specialist-Holiday61@reddit
I dont have a manual restriction, but i havent driven one since training 8 years ago 🤣 Sucks because id love to go to Alaska.
PitchforkMan@reddit
I don't have a manual restriction either, because the person at DMV was new and they didn't know or forgot to add it on my license! Still have to learn though
why_does_life_exist@reddit
More to life than money.
deviouslylicking@reddit
Noted. I can sacrifice 6 months
J_money18769@reddit
Why go to the North Slope when you can make more in the Permian Basin and not have to deal with that weather?
FauxxHawwk@reddit
What's the Permian Basin? Can you tell me more about that?
Tiny_Ear_61@reddit
The southwest Texas oilfields.
Valac_@reddit
Just West Texas
Not really south at all.
FauxxHawwk@reddit
I see. Thank you
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
I really like the work/off split being the same. That’s pretty much the norm up here. It’s my understanding the majority of Permian doesn’t do that. I’ve heard a 14/7 or 21/14 is common. With that schedule out there that’s more money forsure. Different folks different strokes.
Pashappaul@reddit
What about guys who drive to Prudhoe Bay from Fairbanks. On Indeed says 160-170k salary, but they need experience on Dalton Highway. P.S. 3/3 schedule nice, but 80k not enough for Alaska, cost of living so much higher.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
You full time Alaskan?
Montreal4life@reddit
what is the canadian equivalent? for mac? thanks in advance
bmf1989@reddit
What are accommodations like? Is it free room and board? Do you typically stay in camp during off time? Seems like it’d be a real pain, and expensive, to fly home and back every few weeks.
hesslake@reddit
Garmin In Reach
gh3tt0gangst3r@reddit
I wouldn't go to Alaska for $30 hr. Especially when In pa I could make that driving a dump truck for a paving company and be home everyday.
Tiny_Ear_61@reddit
What's the cost of living in Alaska compared to the rest of the country? I've heard stories about eight dollars for a half gallon of milk, etc.
hesslake@reddit
Depends on what part of Alaska My son lives in Ketchikan and the food price are about the same as Michigan
PriorFudge928@reddit
A job in the absolute middle of nowhere, working 80 hours a week, and surrounded by nothing but swinging dicks. All of them socially inept and drunk ever chance they get. Not to mention moose. Not Bears, those fuzzy assholes will make their presence, known, but a moose will creep up on you like a Ninja then stomp you to death for being too close to its kid.
Yeah sound great....
You sound like one of those idiots pushing the military in the early 2000s because the two bullshit wars made it "easier" to get it. I was one of those idiots that listened. Thanks dad... hope you're enjoying rotting in prison for your role in the January 6th terrorist attack.
Emotional-Concept-32@reddit
Ummm its gonna be 100+ hour's a week. Stright up tho, just reading your comment, you couldn't hack it. Stick to the highways there princess. We'll be fine without ya.
PriorFudge928@reddit
It's wasn't my comment about the job the hurt your feelings... princess.
Emotional-Concept-32@reddit
My feelings aren't hurt at all. I found your soft commitment hilarious tho. Softie.
McTrolling69@reddit
Nah I'll stick with WTX. Thanks though
jderflinger@reddit
I always wanted to do this, maybe I should. Is this year round or only seasonal?
ComprehensiveDark814@reddit
What does this mean? Normally I would think two days on - two days off, or three days on - three days off, but further down you say it's 7 days a week.
edsavage404@reddit
2 weeks on 2 weeks off, 3 weeks on 3 weeks off
ComprehensiveDark814@reddit
It's manual transmission only, isn't it?
Are there doctors and dentists and stuff out there? What's cellphone signal like? Where do you go when you're off for two weeks?
edsavage404@reddit
Dude idk I'm not OP lol
Old-Wolf-1024@reddit
Pass
datgazz07@reddit
Is there manual labor involved or do you just drive the truck
smiley82m@reddit
Isn't there a minimum experience requirement for Commercial driving in Alaska if youre not from there or is it like in other professions when working for the inupiat where you just have to have a license from somewhere to qualify?
yung_girth@reddit (OP)
Nope. I would say the majority of the people up here do not live in Alaska and do not have an Alaskan license. As long as it’s CDL A you’re good to go. I’ve heard that you used to need experience for sure to get hired up here but I got hired with no CDL experience. I had plenty of winter driving experience which probably helped though.
CobraWasTaken@reddit
Good way to get experience. If you make it doing that, Donner pass in the winter is nothing.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
How come you left out the good part? The wind chill factor in Jan. 😂😂 “you’ll be ok as soon as we get ya to the Turtle Club.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
I totally glossed over the Turtle Club... I stayed in Fox just down the road from the Turtle Club when I was up there. Not too bad. But I MUCH prefer a good Ribeye over Prime Rib...especially if they steamed the Prime Rib. Silver Gulch has a damn decent Ribeye, when they are open. They keep odd hours.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
They do. I think they are a bunch semi stoner/pot heads, they like to change stuff often which is cool but not if your doors don’t stay open. But, they own the land so it’s not like they have a landlord.
Probably get baked, then go fly around the lower 48 looking for menu ideas and then add their own twist, is my thinking.
I prefer anything meat wise today vs this black bean diet I’m on. Heart attack. Changes a life real quick like.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
The GOOD part is Sundays at the Aurora... I don't know about Klondike bars, but I would do some shady shit for that Prime Rib.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
lol do any bathing at Chena Hot Springs? 😂 yuck.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
no.... when I had some time off, I usually went South toward Denali, or Hatcher Pass. Occasionally I would hang out down near where Princess had their resort just North of Denali. Had some good times with a few of the females that were up there on a cruise.
Present-Ambition6309@reddit
I almost died out in a field south of the igloo. Snow machine got buried by a heavy snow. There were 8 of us diggin for our lives that day. Scared the shit out of me. Alaska is the only state that constantly tried to kill me, lmao
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
That deep snow will get ya if the weight isn't spread out.
humblecocoliving123@reddit
💯
Blimey85v2@reddit
Are there any opportunities for teams or just solo? Also, what is 2x2 or 3x3?
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
No real reason to team, plus It would be damn near impossible to sleep while the other was driving.
Cubsfan11022016@reddit
2 on 2 off, 3 on 3 off work weeks
DaRealMexicanTrucker@reddit
Do they hire O/O?
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
Some do, but your current truck would most likely not do well up there, unless you have full lockers on both axles, and a fairly long wheelbase, and an extra 100 gallon fuel tank. The fuel tank isn't MANDATORY, but if you don't have extra fuel capacity, you will be paying about 7-8/gallon at Coldfoot or Yukon on the way back. Also, you would need to have the fuel tanks re-plumbed so you can shut off the pickup and return lines for each tank independently. getting a hole in a tank is just ONE reason for that. Of course it's a little different up on the field itself, but you would still need to get the truck up there in the first place, and its a LOOOONG 500 miles if you aren't ready.
ras_736@reddit
Do any of those companies require any oilfield hauling experience?
SicnissVI@reddit
They said they were hired right out of CDL school.
ras_736@reddit
You work for one of the companies..?
SicnissVI@reddit
I do not.
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