Erdogan threatens Israel with an alliance of muslim nations
Posted by TurnipSensitive4944@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 61 comments
Ok so this may just be Erdogan yapping like he usually does, but considering the fact that Israel has gotten attacked by most of the middle east before, it is a good idea to keep a watch on this.
Now for pepper's that are not in the middle east, the concern is pc course higher oil prices.
But for those of us in the community that are in the Middle East, this is much more dangerous for obvious reasons.
jrgkgb@reddit
What’s funny about this is that Turkey ACTUALLY committed genocide to found their country.
In the 1910/20’s Turkish nationalists decided that Anatolia ought to be for Turks and embarked on a campaign to cleanse the region of the Greeks, Kurds, Slavs, Armenians, and of course Jews.
Many millions were killed, more were displaced. No less than Hitler himself took notes on how to commit genocide on an industrial scale.
They’re continuing it with the Kurds right now, but no one shuts down highways over it.
Random_rubixcube@reddit
Literally this
Syrixs-Selexis@reddit
Turkey seems like the perfect dumping ground for Gaza migrants. No longer wanted in Europe.
Mudlark-000@reddit
After armed purges from countries that did give Palestinians refuge (Jordan and Lebanon, in particular) no one wants to take in the Palestinian populations of Gaza and the West Bank. Of course, if something were done to actually help them, most Islamic nations wouldn't have the Palestinians to point to and both "humiliate" Israel and distract from their own domestic issues. They make wonderful pawns...
forkproof2500@reddit
Could they not, and I'm just throwing this out there, just be allowed to live freely within their OWN FUCKING COUNTRY that conveniently is located right next to Gaza? A lot of them still have the deeds to their old houses, land etc. Some have the keys.
A thief will never be an owner.
pissagainstwind@reddit
What own fucking country? they NEVER had their own country.
Most of them are actually work immigrants from Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia that came in the late 20th century as they Jews brgan returning home. their sur names are all mostly egyptian, syrian, lebanese and saudi names.
forkproof2500@reddit
Are you high right now? They all have arabic names. Meanwhile every single Jewish immigrant changed their surnames to try to fit in, up to and including the current prime minister, a mr Mileikowski from Poland. Yoav Gallant? Also a Pole.
Jews were living in harmony in Palestine for hundreds of years before Zionism ruined it for everyone by demanding a separate ethnostate. Didn't work for Rhodesia, won't work in Palestine.
pissagainstwind@reddit
There was no harmony in Israel before. go read some history. no place under arabs/muslims ever had "harmony".
Arabs are an imperialist colonial force in the region that literally can't even physically pronounce the word Palestine, a name that was rejected by these arab invaders (because it's translates as invaders) for centuries begore Arafat needed to distginuish his arabs from other arabs after thet lost their wars.
Jews/Israelis ancestry is common knowledge. so are the reasons for getting exiled from Israel and going back to Israel. Jewish Israel is a decolonization project. this is an historic fact.
a common sur name like al-musri is not just arabic. it is literally "from egypt".
Again, go read some history ya ignorant antisemitic numbnut.
baby_muffins@reddit
Hey, how is the Palestinian maqlouba different from Lebanese? How is the jeem in Palestine pronounced differently than in Egypt or Syria? Are they based on clans or tribes?
If you don't know the answers, you don't know how Palestinians/Canaanites are their own distinct people who have been there for thousands of years, even before the Jews came.
pissagainstwind@reddit
There isn't a palestinian maqlouba. it is an Arabian dish originating from Iraq which has nothing to do with the Canaanites. as for the differences, there is gallilean/lebanese/druze, beduin/arabic and Israeli. the differences are not important. you might as well just all eat fries with Ketchup, still doesn't makes you an American.
The people in the city 20 minutes next to my town pronounce more than a hundred words different than i do. doesn't mean we are two distinct cultures/nationalities/tribes/whatever.
Your arguments are at a first grade level.
Palestinians is an appropriated term Arabs took to justify their fascist imperialist colonialism.
baby_muffins@reddit
Lmao, they use different spices and cook the rice differently. Sounds like you have never been there, spoken to a Palestinian, or read a primary source.
Embarrassing
pissagainstwind@reddit
Been where? i have been all over the middle east. all of these countries are objectively shit, bar Israel which is only semi-shit.
Your dumb argument prove nothing. might as well put maynoaise in your Ras al Hanout. it doesn't mean anything.
Culture/Cuisine can arise in a single decade. doesn't make Arabs less of a foreign invading fascist force.
baby_muffins@reddit
Jews were not even born there. They migrated.
They are the colonizers
pissagainstwind@reddit
Huh? Jews returned from Egypt.
Every nation migrated to where it is now. the only difference: Between the country of Israel and the state of Israel, there wasn't an independant country/state in Israel and Judea.
baby_muffins@reddit
Right, it's made up/stolen
pissagainstwind@reddit
Every country is made up. unless you believe god gave it. if you do, then it's Israel's.
baby_muffins@reddit
But not every country is stolen. Israel is. If you actually value something and want it that bad, you stay and fight for it. They left. Can't ask for shit back after you give it away
pissagainstwind@reddit
A. Who Israel stole it from? there wasn't a country before NOR after Israel. if anyone "stole", it was the Arabs that stole it.
B. Arabs are the ones that fled like chickens in 1947, despite being far more numerous, because deep down they knew they are the imperialist fascist colonizers. that they are still here trying to terrorize is because Arabs operate on "honour", like little dumb kids.
Jews were exiled by a much greater force.
C. That's rich coming from a pro terrorist/balestine, lol.
baby_muffins@reddit
Nope.
https://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/
You just referred to ethnic cleansing as "fled like chickens".
My kids grandfather had his throat slit by Irgun terrorists to take his home. His wife was raped. He was unarmed.
Inb4 "well she deserved to be raped". I'm gonna block you in advance.
WebAccomplished9428@reddit
You have no clue what even constitutes imperialism or neo-colonialism, which conpletely discredits your entire argument right from the beginning. Please stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
pissagainstwind@reddit
What neo-colonialism has to do with anything? did you had a one semester course on it so you spout it like some kind of brain dead?
TheMidwestMarvel@reddit
When they’re digging up their own water infrastructure to launch unguided RPGs that kinda undercuts the message of “just trying to live”. As does suicide bombing Israelis and Egyptian businesses.
ChirrBirry@reddit
They should just become Israelis of Palestinian decent. There would be classism between Jewish Israelis and Muslim Israelis as currently exists, but the argument would now be treatment of Israel’s own citizens rather than oppression by a foreign power.
forkproof2500@reddit
That would be ideal yes.
idontevenliftbrah@reddit
Palestine seems like a great place for Gaza migrants. Dump Israelis in turkey
forkproof2500@reddit
It's certainly a lot easier for everyone. Most Israelis already have double passports, plus Euro countries and the US love these people to bits.
Then they can join Eurovising without it looking weird and forced.
TurnipSensitive4944@reddit (OP)
I mean really any part of the middles is.
Its only a matter of time before a regional war happens over a migrant crisis
pleasantly_plump-yum@reddit
Oh no way, not more of them comming over here.
ValeteAria@reddit
They're not going to stay in Turkey. Whether wanted in Europe, is something Europe needs to consider before supporting countries creating mass refugee waves.
But eh, when Europe gets hit with the 500th refugee wave after they supported yet another war in the unstable Middle-East to then pull a surprised Pikachu face when they have to deal with thousands of refugees.
are-e-el@reddit
Children of Men was a documentary
baby_muffins@reddit
Erdogan is all talk and no action. He is still doing plenty of trade with Israel and keeping diplomatic channels open.
This is not Intel because Erdogan has never done jack shit to help Palestinians and he is not gonna risk Nato standing for them
Tigerarmy97@reddit
Psalm 83 is going to happen very soon…
TurnipSensitive4944@reddit (OP)
More like Ezekiel.
Honestly I'm unsure if both of these prophecies are like back to back considering the tact that psalms says that nations that are in Ezekiel are permanently destroyed so its kind of hard for it to be first.
Besides if it is a war it can quickly get rid of the Elam, and Damascus prophecies as well.
Either way its getting pretty Biblical
Tigerarmy97@reddit
Isn’t it all biblical my brother. It’s His Story we’re just characters playing our role in this story. Either way we are seeing God is in total control and this is all apart of his plan, fear not except God. 🗡️ the Bible is unfolding itself right before our eyes. Stay tuned for more….
PNWcog@reddit
Those usually don't work out too well
crusoe@reddit
Sunni and Shia Muslim unity is like saying Catholic and Protestant unity 400 years ago.
switchbladeone@reddit
If memory serves correct, that didn’t really work out all that well last time.
harbourhunter@reddit
Can they please call it MATO
ArthurBurtonMorgan@reddit
MATER.
Muslim Administration of The Eastern Region.
bigdreams_littledick@reddit
MATER TATER
Muslim Administration of the Eastern Region To Aggressively Teach Enemies Responsibility
zfcjr67@reddit
LATER MATER TATER
Last Attempt To Eliminate Region's Muslim Administration of the Eastern Region To Aggressively Teach Enemies Responsibility
Ok_Feedback_8124@reddit
LATER MATER TATER SKATER:
Last Attempt To Eliminate Region's Muslim Administration of The Eastern Region To Aggressively Teach Enemies Responsibility and Show Kinda A Thing Eh... Right bro
Legitimate_Bat3240@reddit
Like, "ta mater"?
IronPhoenix316@reddit
But without the Ta'
px7j9jlLJ1@reddit
Fucking good, about time
AWE2727@reddit
I'm not even sure why Turkey is still in NATO? They don't seem to be friends sometimes that is for sure. Probably explains why they are limited in getting western military aid.
Solomon-Drowne@reddit
Controls the bosporous strait. Huge strategic bonus. Military that actually fucks. Forward access to central Asia.
Lots of reasons, really.
Familiar-Two2245@reddit
Time for a new ataturk
AssignedGoonerPilled@reddit
Play games in Turkey and it’s fully over for the The West™️
Familiar-Two2245@reddit
Ataturk was a homegrown product there. The CIA wasn't around yet buddy. Even today's temu sultan isn't dumb enough to hitch his wagon to Putin's sick donkey. I've heard he does love some corruption though.
Johnny-Dogshit@reddit
Being able to park missiles during the cold war was a big one, too.
And that bosphorous thing is no joke, I mean any Russian vessel has to pass through essentially a NATO checkpoint.
Turkey will be given a tonne of slack to keep NATO in Istanbul. The US needs it more than Turkey does, really.
AssignedGoonerPilled@reddit
Because you can’t read.
OffensiveBiatch@reddit
Turkey has been a staunch ally to NATO since their admittance.
Installation of US nukes in Turkey was what started the Cuban missile crisis.
During Desert Storm, Incirlik was an important base for US forces to launch sorties, resupply, evacuate wounded.
Turkey can shut down Bhosphorus or the Dardanelles denying Russia any warm water access.
90% of Syrian and Iraqi oil flow through pipelines in Turkey. Also lots of Azerbeijani natural gas that flow into Europe.
Erdogan is a DICK and has these grand visions of reforming the Caliphate of Ottoman times. He has lost support within his party, the populace, and the military. He is on a slip slide downhill and anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
AWE2727@reddit
Agreed! It all started when he cracked down on democracy and other political parties. You are right he has dreams of brining back the past. That never works out well at all!
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
Someone has dreams of empire (still).
orangedimension@reddit
Who are we talking about here exactly lol
Shipkiller-in-theory@reddit
Erdogen
Druid_High_Priest@reddit
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If the hatred for Israel is enough to get all the fractions to agree on a common enemy, this will happen.
ZillaGodX2@reddit
if the Muslim countries all link up it’s only right the pope calls a crusade. I mean shit when’s the last time we had a good ol crusade anyways.
JuggernautOk1132@reddit
Yes it’s called the Arab league… which is in effect a lame duck.
TurnipSensitive4944@reddit (OP)
Yes I know it says pc course higher oil prices.
What I meant to say before autocorrect butchered it was of course higher oil prices