Bug out bag should be cheap
Posted by Brilliant-Dirt5110@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Qualifiers: I am a single guy who is an avid hiker/camper and live in a house.
My bug out bag is generally cheap stuff. I assembled it via old gear or cheap gear (Walmart, Amazon, etc).
My thought process is this: In the vast majority of scenarios, my best option in the immediate aftermath of an event will be to bug in for at least a few days. Even if I only have an hour or two, I can assemble my regular, high quality gear. On the slim chance I have to leave immediately, my cheap bug out bag can serve me fine to get gone and survive. The low odds of having to use my dedicated BoB does not justify a high price tag for what will most likely sit there ready to deploy and never getting used. It also ensures I don't dip into that gear for recreational activity. It's always ready, but not a drain.
Enigma_xplorer@reddit
Yeah I mean the only catch 22 is some cheap stuff will not even work for an emergency. Like I bought a cheap walmart trifold military style camping shovel to used for emergencies and it was such junk I literally just threw it away. Don't even get me started on things like water filtration. Sure you may not need the most ultra premium stuff but it's got to at least work. Frankly, I generally don't buy super premium items to begin with as they are rarely a good value.
Dontcancelmeplox@reddit
I spent about 2000 on my Bob over ten years, starting with dumb crap as a young teen until I was an adult and started to replace everything with super high quality items.
2000 isn’t a lot of money.
Brilliant-Dirt5110@reddit (OP)
Yeah I use one of my old backpacking bags for my dedicated BoB. Point is, I will almost certainly never use it and will very likely have time to pack my primary bag.
johndoe3471111@reddit
I'm of the same thought process. I'm not spending a fortune on a bug out bag and gear to fill it. I don't plan on living out it for more than 3 days. I agree that the odds of using it are slim, but I do stock good enough stuff to last a few days. I work less than 10 miles from home. All back roads with numerous routes. Odds I'm walking are pretty close to zero. Just in case, though, I have an older backpack with mid range gear.
donnieCRAW@reddit
I have two bags, one for me and family needs and a smaller one for wife and daughter. Both bags are brand name quality bought used for less than $75 each. If the vehicle is running, we should be good for a week if we're careful. Preloaded totes with food and water are handy. I agree that immediate notice to leave is going to be rare, although with pre-planning, a 30 minute exit would be possible imo.
Eredani@reddit
If bugging out means permanently leaving your primary residence, then why would you want to take or depend on inexpensive gear?
Speaking only for myself, I have a very hard time imagining a bug out scenario. If my house is on fire, let it burn... everything is insured. We go live in a hotel, eat out, go clothes shopping... that's what the emergency fund is for. No hurricane or earthquake threat here. For just about anything else (civil unrest, pandemic, depression, supply chain, EMP/CME, and especially nuclear war), the plan is to shelter in place.
I know everyone's circumstances are different, but I'm just wondering why there is so much focus on bugging out and wilderness/survival skills. If you feel like you need to be somewhere else, then the 1000,000 people around you probably do to. So now all of you are strangers or invaders in someone else's neighborhood? Do we really want to volunteer to become a homeless refugee?
Salacious_Scribe@reddit
Nuke war = radiation. May not be safe to stay. Bio warfare, wildfires, earthquakes can happen anywhere, massive civil unrest/ civil war, invasion by foreign power, hazmat spill/fire.
There are a lit of reasons shelter in place would be dangerous.
Eredani@reddit
Nuclear war/radiation: The LAST thing you want to be doing right after a nuclear attack is running around outside. Prep to shelter in a basement for two weeks.
Bio warfare: Same as pandemic. Shelter in place and isolate.
Wildfires: Same as a house fire. Let it burn, go stay in a nice hotel, eat out, go shopping for clothes and a new home.
Earthquake: There has never been a major (7.0+) earthquake recorded in my area. If there was, then everyone would be affected, and many would be trying to leave, resulting in a complete traffic meltdown. No one would be going anywhere. Outside help would arrive in days or weeks. But only for those not caught up in the chaos by sheltering in place.
Civil war: Again, if you think you need to move, then so do many around you. I don't want to abandon my home and preps just to become a homeless refugee in a war zone competing with thousands of desperate people. Better to shelter in place for at least a month or two, lay low, and ride it out.
Foreign invasion: Not remotely likely in the US. But if it did happen, I would join the American Resistance and fight. That is a hill I am willing to die on. No way I would run, and my wife is ok with that.
Hazmat spill: Same as house fire. Go on vacation while they clean up the mess.
Anything else?
Salacious_Scribe@reddit
Not everyone has a basement. Radiation travels, so you can flee before it arrives in your area.
Some pathogens are airborne. Som contaminate the water supply. What do you do if theres no drinking water?
Wildfires burn hotels, even entire cities. Look at Austrailas fires 2 years ago.
Cant shelter in place if there is no shelter. Katrina mean anything.
Several studies show people in disasters/war zones are more likely to survive if the head away from the danger zone.
Eredani@reddit
I'm not saying people in general should never bug out.
I'm saying that for me, in particular, there is virtually no case for bugging out.
I'm also saying there is, overall, too much emphasis on bugging out and wilderness survival skills.
To your examples:
Serious preppers should have a basement. Very serious preppers should have a bunker.
Trying to outrun radiation immediately after a nuclear attack sounds crazy to me. The first 48 are the most dangerous. Unless you are well upwind and have a head start on the masses, be prepared to stay put.
I'm prepared with one month of stored water. Always assume all water sources are contaminated with pathogens... that is why we boil it!
You will have more luck outrunning a wildfire than nuclear radiation. Obviously, get to a hotel in a safe area.
I'm not in a flood zone and far enough inland that hurricanes are not a problem. In any case, severe weather comes with many days' notice to prepare or evacuate. Note that an early, orderly, and deliberate evacuation is not the same thing as bugging out.
What studies are you citing? My guess is that these are ordinary people (aka unprepared homeless refugees). Typically, the mass migration of desperate people presents an entirely different type of danger to themselves and others.
No_Character_5315@reddit
If it's left in a car then I could see it chances are eventually it's going to get stolen and insurance usually doesn't cover it. It would suck to lose expensive gear.
Eredani@reddit
Why would a bug out bag be left in a car?
Or are you talking about a get home bag?
JennaSais@reddit
My province has been through several catastrophic fire seasons in recent years, and one of the things I think people underestimate is how long you could be without a home for, and how many other people are going to require help. Entire towns have been evacuated that have, years later, yet to be fully rebuilt. In the days following evacuation orders, people filled shelters to capacity (and subsequently fell ill because of how quickly stomach bugs and the like go around crowded places.) Aid was offered by the government and the Red Cross, but the lineups were long to get registration done, and if you weren't early on the list of applicants, delivery was often very late.
The people that were the most comfortable by far were the ones with a quick and ready getaway plan, who either got to the lineups fastest or got good camping spots early. They were able to remain close by for damage assesments and the like, even if they were technically more remote than people in shelters in another nearby town, and didn't have to wait for a cheque to come in to help them afford to replace basic necessities like food and the cookware to make it in. Many of them lived in their travel trailers or at planned BOL's while they worked out where to go next or waited for their homes to be rebuilt. People without those plans and skills competed for rentals in an already-tight market while being out of work because their workplaces burnt down. Those good at foraging helped make ends meet despite that by not relying on the grocery store so much.
Heck, even in England in WWII, people who could get out to the country and forage wood, food, and other necessities were better off than most other people on rations.
Goongala22@reddit
I refer to mine as a bug out bag, but it’s more of a get-home bag. It has enough temporary supplies to tide me over until I get to my main supply stash at the house. I also packed it with tools/supplies necessary for survival in the event that I get stuck in the mountains.
That said, there are scenarios where you have to get out of town fast. A few years back, an alert was sent to Hawaii about inbound missiles targeting cities. In that instance, there was no time to get home and hunker down - you need to get out of the blast radius, and quick. Luckily, it later turned out to be a false alarm. But the whole point of a bug out bag is to be capable of getting away at a moment’s notice.
LastEntertainment684@reddit
My Get-Home Bag is cheaper stuff because it lives in my car and there’s a higher chance it gets stolen.
My Bug-Out bag is my most expensive bag because, if I only have time to grab one thing from the house, that’s what I’m grabbing. Whether I’m coming home or not. Plus it has my important documents with it.
Then I have a Supplemental bag/INCH bag that’s mostly just extra food, water, clothes, and ammo. Basically consumable items. There’s some less expensive items in there where it could act as a BoB. But those items are basically just meant to be redundant to the main bag.
I also have a “TSA compliant” bag made up specifically for air travel.
Icy-Ad-7767@reddit
I’d like to see a contents list for that TSA bag since I fly for work would like a some get home stuff.
chicagotodetroit@reddit
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/all
LastEntertainment684@reddit
Daypack sized backpack
-Dry bag with a change of clothes, wash cloth, spare cloth belt that can act as a TQ
-Waterproof windbreaker jacket (I usually fly in a hoodie)
-small toiletries bag (hair brush/tooth brush/toothpaste tabs/disposable razor/signal mirror/hotel bar soap in a small ziplock/flushable wipes)
-Leatherman Style PS and Victorinox Nailcard
-lanyard with Brunton watch compass / Fox 40 / Ferro-rod
-Passports/Documents/Assorted Currency
-spare Cell phone
-Renology fold up solar panel
-Anker portable power brick with MagSafe charging
-Streamlight Protac AA or CR123 flashlight with USB-C rechargeable CR-123’s
-Various USB-C Adapters / HDMI cable / extension cord / travel plug adapter / simple little USB led light
-Small first aid kit with OTC meds and water purification tablets in travel packaging (so it’s clearly marked)
-Vortex Solo 10x Monocular
-spare pair glasses with glasses repair kit
-Matador pocket blanket
-Lifestraw water bottle nested in aluminum cup
-sturdy plastic Spork
-Rite-in-rain pad / pens / sharpies
-hank of Paracord
-emergency Poncho
-55 gal trash bag in a ziplock
-bright orange Bandanna
-N95 masks
I also generally have some things on me, like my Garmin inReach and a BIC, and I’ll stuff it full of food once I’m past security.
Fits under the seat in front of me. Flown all over the world with it. Only place I had an issue was Italy made me ditch my Leatherman.
Icy-Ad-7767@reddit
Thank you
Wise-Fault-8688@reddit
I can load my truck camper onto my truck in about 30 minutes and I keep it pretty well stocked. I figured that's about as good as it gets for any scenario that actually requires me to evacuate.
And, in northeastern Ohio, I really can't envision any scenario in which I'd evacuation would be the best move, where it would have to happen in less time or on foot.
Extreme_Map9543@reddit
I bought an old REI hiking backpack from a thrift store for $2. It’s much thicker and more durable than newer ones and has served me well for travels and hikes and camping trips around the world.
tactical-bigmac-md@reddit
So the point of a bugout bag is to bug out. It doesn't matter how much, just what you put into it. I'm of the mindset that in the bug out scenario, you should be able to rely on the gear. As long as it checks that box who cares. Good example, the bear grills products. 30 + for a knife, but quality is crap. You're paying for the name.
I would say if you have the money, buy another item that is high quality, not "cheap gear," and store it. You should always look to upgrade your gear as time goes.
Excellent_Condition@reddit
That sounds like a very reasonable conclusion. I agree completely about most situations either having enough notice to bug out (hurricanes are a big one for me in Florida), or requiring sheltering in place instead of evacuation.
I have a different take on the kind of bag based on circumstances: my bug out bag is fairly nice because it's my work bag.
I work on location in a variety of locations, from corporate to rural, so my work bag has everything I need to get through an unexpected and taxing 18 hour day. Unlike a hiking bag, because mine is used every week, I update it every week.
My car has emergency water packets in it, so if I needed to bug out with zero notice I'd grab my work bag, a box of Cliff bars and a pack of extra water bottles, and be out the door.
I've had family emergencies where I grabbed my bag and ran, but those tend to be 24 hours or less in duration. As you've said, the few where I've needed to be gone longer, I've been able to have at least 30 minutes notice to pack more situation-specific necessities.
To me, having a go bag like that that is constantly updated (because I use it all the time) is much more useful then one that is sitting in a closet somewhere.
For those who don't keep a work bag constantly updated, I think your strategy of not focusing on a overkill BoB is a good one.
Spiley_spile@reddit
As someone who has had my house burn down, and in a separate incident had to evacuate because of a wild fire, and also had a neighbor in an apartment complex catch their unit on fire in the very early morning, 100% I keep a "Go NOW" bag even though otherwise my preferred scenario is to bug in.
midtier_gardener@reddit
I agree with you! I prep for Tuesday. My BOB is for evacuation due to bad weather, fire, etc, where civilisation hasn't collapsed- not some situation where I have to live in the woods and hunt for my food.
My bag is just a normal, comfortable 30L bag. It's a Fjällräven bag but I bought it second hand, so it was barely 1/4 of the new price :)
I was using an expensive Norrønna bag since it has amazing fit and quality, but I missed using that bag for more every day things, so I started looking for an expensive brand but second hand. (I'm a bag person, love pricey brands due to fit and quality)
Juggernaut-Top@reddit
I agree with you - i didn't miss your point. It was well taken. I'm watching a serious fire burn a whole section of my city and it's not far outside the realm of possiblity. I thank you for this tip. Packing now. thx
GreyBeardsStan@reddit
Bug out bags should be obsolete.
Running into the woods is the dumbest shit ever
hiraeth555@reddit
They are also for things like house fires, wildfires, flooding/storms, etc where you might simply have to leave on short notice for an undefined length of time.
It’s not about the woods necessarily.
GreyBeardsStan@reddit
Yet no one acknowledges that, nor important documents, toiletries, clothes, pet supplies, things for a hotel, etc.
It's always all survival gear nonsense
JennaSais@reddit
Maybe the channels and conversations you watch. It's brought up every single time BOB's are talked about here, and channels like City Prepping and The Urban Prepper have talked about organizing critical documents for a bugout situation MANY times.
This-Satisfaction-71@reddit
I plan on bugging in, but if i ever had to bug out, I have 2 options. I have a get home bag in my trunk that is packed for a week of camping, plus other gear that I could grab. Also, my day hiking pack is set with survival gear in case I get lost on a trail or someone breaks a leg and has to sit tight til rescue comes. Both are a mix of cheap and expensive gear.
Traditional-Leader54@reddit
I don’t think it needs to be top of the line nor do I think bargain basement is the way to go either assuming you can afford a little better. If you’re planning it as a 72 hour bag for example (mine is a 3 or 4 day get home bag based on how far away I work) you need gear that will keep you alive for that long. You have to stay within your budget and that’s gonna be different for everyone.
Adol214@reddit
BoB vs GTFO
Agree with you. In most bug out scenario I can think of, I would have time to make and adjust the bag.
But there are a few exceptions when you need to leave under 3min: fire being the main one.
So, you can have a smaller GTFO bag which just contain what you need to TAKE OUT of your home.
Not necessarily what you need to survive days once out.
That would be : home ownership and insurance paper. ID. Cash. Cellphone.
Unless the crises is very broad, you can buy or get whatever you need.
So, just keep that at hand by the main door....
xXJA88AXx@reddit
I agree. I have a larhe alice pack that I picked up at pawn shop for $35. The best $35 I ever spent.
SunLillyFairy@reddit
I think budget restrictions hold too many people back. Out of budget necessity my family’s first go bags were used backpacks (they were literally like under a dollar each from a bin thrift store). What I put in them first was free (or almost) - mostly stuff that we already had… like printouts/copies of vital docs, emergency contacts and IDs, a few N95’s, a change of clothes, beanies, gloves, a few days of RX meds, teeny first aid kits from what I had on hand, shelf stable snacks and water bottles from my pantry… stuff like that. It cost less than $10 for my family of 4 to each have starter bags.
Then I began adding some cheap stuff, like water ponchos, space blankets, chapstick, headlamps and fire starter kits. I think it’s better to have a cheap bag than nothing, and you have to start somewhere.
They are much nicer and more complete now, but it took a few years and slow upgrades.
Hypnales@reddit
I keep my usual camping bag packed in between trips. Need to be ready for that impromptu camping trip 😅
Apprehensive_Sir_630@reddit
Also single guy who lives alone, my bug out bag isa USGI alice although i have been considering upgrading to a SADF pattern 83.
I have a different take on this, my BOB is designed for 72 hours of sustainment and is my camping/hiking kit.
Its been in a constant state of development since i started 10 years ago with a USMC issue assault pack.
The camping and hiking is a live field development process to refine the BOB.
Some of my kit is cheap some of it is relatively expensive, but its all been selected due to preformance in the field.
Bugging in is still the prefered option yes, but should i need to bug out, i have the comfort of a known pack with known equipment i am very familar with.
capnbob82@reddit
Great advice!
harbourhunter@reddit
Used osprey or Patagonia with a Jansport patch glued on
ilreppans@reddit
As an multimodal outdoor enthusiast, I like good gear - that’s what I’ll use/edc (day trips) or camp (multi-nighters) with anyways. So yeah I commingle usage - primarily for everyday recreation, comfort, and practically, but secondarily in case of emergencies. My edc is always ready to go, but would need to assemble a bob - maybe ~hour to put together my set-ups for 3day self-sufficient, carry-on size, wheeled ‘touring’ rigs (for 3x+ walking pace/range). Also have a minivan daily driver set-up for recreational stealth camping, but assume it will be useless in a serious event due to gridlock.
incensenonsense@reddit
I like the cheap approach. I pay for quality for stuff I use a lot. My BoB I put in a change of clothes I was ready to donate. Had an old raincoat with some holes I duct taped over. It’s still functional but didn’t look great anymore. And I had some wool socks that were getting frayed but still keep warm.
Similarly I put in old tools that I already had, a flashlight I already had (with fresh batteries).
Meds, lighter etc I got new/fresh.
The bag itself was also an old backpack from the 90s. That is intentional too so it attracts less attention/risk of getting stolen.
I’m not cheaping out on things that would put my life in danger, but also don’t need to buy the nicest brand new stuff for a bag I hope I never need to use.
MrHmuriy@reddit
If you put quality things in this bag that you can count on in a critical situation, it won't be cheap. Under no circumstances would I trust my health to a say Chinese water filter, medical supplies, or even a tourniquet.
anno2376@reddit
I just want to by hiking bag pack, most of the time it's my bob and when I need it I will be anyways not at home.
So less stuff and higher quality stuff.